Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27

2008-04-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 04:35:36PM -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote:
 How does everyone feel about the proposed layout and syntaxes of GLEP 27?
 Do we want to revisit this GLEP with an updated GLEP or status quo?
 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0027.html
I'm strongly in favour of moving forward with it.

Way back in the past of Gentoo, a stab was made at keeping a single
static file, but nobody bothered with it, since it wasn't in the
gentoo-x86 tree.

For GLEP27, I believe there was a SoC some years ago implementing it, I
don't know what became of that code.

My specific interest in it is for having a sane UID/GIDs that are
identical between a set of machines, regardless of the order packages
are emerged in.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27

2008-04-11 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 10-04-2008 16:35:36 -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote:
 How does everyone feel about the proposed layout and syntaxes of GLEP 27?

 Do we want to revisit this GLEP with an updated GLEP or status quo?

 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0027.html

See also:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53269


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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27

2008-04-11 Thread Doug Goldstein

Robin H. Johnson wrote:


My specific interest in it is for having a sane UID/GIDs that are
identical between a set of machines, regardless of the order packages
are emerged in.



Same here. Which is why I'm hoping to revitalize GLEP 27.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27

2008-04-11 Thread RB
  My specific interest in it is for having a sane UID/GIDs that are
  identical between a set of machines, regardless of the order packages
  are emerged in.

I was initially surprised to see Gentoo didn't have written standards
for UID/GID management, but don't see many other distros having one
either.  Would it be untoward to extend this GLEP to define both
default ranges and an internal body to hand them out?  I, for one, am
aesthetically uncomfortable with processes like mysql and rpm using
IDs  100, but don't have a clean technical argument as to why they
shouldn't.

It would also probably be fruitful to have enewgroup/enewuser check
UID_MIN/GID_MIN instead of hard-coding the 101-999 search it does now.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 April 2008

2008-04-11 Thread Joe Peterson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:37:31 -0700
 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's why I setup them up with the ability to rsync it, and they
 never got back to me on that, nor used it ever.
 
 Hrm, curious. They seem interested and alive currently. Perhaps it's
 worth another shot...

I also queried them on the forum earlier this year, since none of my
commits were listed.  Here's the link (I do think this is worth looking
into - note that the response what that they did not do CVS...):

http://www.ohloh.net/forums/10/topics/1278

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27

2008-04-11 Thread Mike Kelly
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:35:36 -0400
Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How does everyone feel about the proposed layout and syntaxes of GLEP
 27?
 
 Do we want to revisit this GLEP with an updated GLEP or status quo?
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0027.html

This was my SoC project a few years back. I have the code mostly done,
minus some more sanity checks, unit tests, testing by folks, and patch
to jam it into portage (should be trivial for someone who knows
portage's code, which I don't).

The project is called Creandus, and you can find it at:
http://creandus.pioto.org/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-4.2 / gcc-4.3 plans

2008-04-11 Thread Vaeth

 So the point is, our current 2.6.24 kernel is safe.

I can *not* confirm this. Just some days ago, I compiled
hardened-sources-2.6.24 (which uses genpatches-2.6.24-5;
current gentoo-sources uses genpatches-2.6.24-6, but the
difference is obviously not important here [it involves
just an #include for some exotic hardwar]).

Result: Compiles fine with gcc-4.3 on x86 but dies immediately
at boot (before printing anything) unless acpi=off is used.
(And just to be sure, I disabled every acpi feature except
general acpi support - same result).

It is certainly a compiler problem, because with gcc-4.2
exactly the same kernel configuration (and even on amd64
with gcc-4.3 and analogous configuration) has no problem.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-4.2 / gcc-4.3 plans

2008-04-11 Thread Jan Kundrát

Vaeth wrote:

Result: Compiles fine with gcc-4.3 on x86 but dies immediately
at boot (before printing anything) unless acpi=off is used.
(And just to be sure, I disabled every acpi feature except
general acpi support - same result).


Please file a bug at bugs,gentoo.org, our hardened team surely wants to 
know about that.


Cheers,
-jkt

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