Re: [gentoo-dev] VCS repository overview for Gentoo
On Friday 30 May 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote: This is more of a reminder email than anything else, in my capacity as the VCS administrator for Gentoo. Thanks a lot for the overview, especially the part about public/private repositories. It would be great if this list could be maintained as parts of the infrastructure project docs. I can convert to xml if necessary. Robert signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June
On P, 2008-06-01 at 05:30 +, Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. I am still waiting on seeing any results or follow-ups on this: Can the council help fewer bugs get ignored by arm/sh/s390 teams? - The work happens, but Mart says it's not communicated to anyone and has no relationship to whether bugs are open. We need to understand the workflow of undermanned arch teams and see whether there's anything we can help improve. Possibly improving recuitment -- add a good, motivating staffing-needs entry. I still don't see any staffing needs entry or other methods to solve this beyond declaring them as dev profiles which doesn't help with the bugs, and I can't know if any effort has been underway for understanding the workflow. Without an update, it gives the impression nothing has been done, which I don't want to believe. I'd appreciate an update - not necessarily as part of the council agenda, but perhaps just per mail, with any discussions if any is necessary during the meeting. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June
On 01 Jun 2008 05:30:01, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. I would like the council to vote on whether --as-needed will be added to gentoo by default or not. Keep in mind that every GLEP *re*submission to the council for review must first be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list 7 days (minimum) before being submitted as an agenda item which itself occurs 7 days before the meeting. Simply put, the gentoo-dev mailing list must be notified at least 14 days before the meeting itself. For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June
This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. Keep in mind that every GLEP *re*submission to the council for review must first be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list 7 days (minimum) before being submitted as an agenda item which itself occurs 7 days before the meeting. Simply put, the gentoo-dev mailing list must be notified at least 14 days before the meeting itself. For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS
Ulrich Mueller a écrit : Speaking about statistics: Either I have missed it, or so far nobody has presented any solid numbers showing what the benefit of --as-needed in terms of memory usage or program startup time is. The reduction in startup time may not be noticeable. The real win is when low level libs change ABI, like expat. On a standard Gnome system, without --as-needed, I had over 280 packages to rebuild (that was a very slow Duron 700Mhz, I ended up moving to --as-needed and did emerge -e world). On my other box which had had --as-needed for a while (so some useless rebuild could have been further avoided), I only had around 45 packages. And for the sake of the thread, had libtool been smarter, I'm sure that the final number could have gone down to 20 or so packages. My opinion: - we need --as-needed because it's useful (maybe ld could echo the libs that's it's dropping and then we could have a QA warning?) - we *do* need to fix libtool too - we need to make sure upstream packages provide correct .pc files Just a thought :) Rémi -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:41:28 +0200 Raúl Porcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Requesting ~arch keywords: Is a maintainer able to request ~arch keywords, if the package is not a dependency of some other package which is keyworded, and the maintainer doesn't have that arch? Yes. Last time I looked anyone could request a keyword. IMHO the packages should be keyworded if an arch team member or an user of that arch requests it. Keywording something if an user of said arch doesn't request it, is a waste of resources. How is making things available to your users a waste of resources? Anyways, if you're so far behind that you don't think you can manage keywording another package then just say so and deny the request. What does this have to do with council? -- fonts, gcc-porting, by design, by neglect mips, treecleaner,for a fact or just for effect wxwidgets @ gentoo EFFD 380E 047A 4B51 D2BD C64F 8AA8 8346 F9A4 0662 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-06-01 23h59 UTC
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2008-06-01 23h59 UTC. Removals: media-sound/gtkguitune 2008-05-27 12:52:48 drac media-sound/playspc_gtk 2008-05-27 12:52:49 drac media-sound/yconsole2008-05-27 12:52:49 drac media-gfx/iv2008-05-27 12:53:32 drac media-video/gqcam 2008-05-27 12:54:22 drac sys-apps/systrace 2008-05-27 12:55:13 drac net-fs/coda-kernel 2008-05-27 12:56:00 drac app-arch/debhelper 2008-05-29 15:37:02 yvasilev dev-lang/ezm3 2008-05-31 04:40:00 vapier dev-util/cvsup 2008-05-31 04:40:21 vapier media-fonts/fireflysung 2008-05-31 07:21:57 loki_val app-portage/portage-manpages2008-05-31 18:05:27 vapier media-plugins/libao-pulse 2008-05-31 18:16:47 drac gnome-extra/gnome2-user-docs2008-06-01 21:39:54 remi Additions: media-fonts/tibetan-machine-font2008-05-26 10:43:24 loki_val sci-biology/amos2008-05-26 14:47:52 weaver media-fonts/thaifonts-scalable 2008-05-28 06:07:52 loki_val app-i18n/unicode-data 2008-05-28 17:16:34 loki_val media-libs/raul 2008-05-29 08:24:48 aballier x11-libs/flowcanvas 2008-05-29 08:43:51 aballier media-sound/patchage2008-05-29 08:46:53 aballier app-emulation/fuse-utils2008-05-30 01:56:01 darkside x11-terms/sakura2008-05-30 07:39:36 jmglov media-fonts/opendesktop-fonts 2008-05-30 08:10:37 loki_val dev-tex/translator 2008-05-30 13:10:37 aballier media-fonts/cardo 2008-05-30 20:48:44 swegener media-sound/qtscrobbler 2008-05-31 01:04:34 yngwin net-misc/openssh-blacklist 2008-05-31 09:47:51 vapier www-client/ck4up2008-05-31 19:16:37 bangert dev-scheme/ikarus 2008-05-31 21:17:57 pchrist x11-misc/lsw2008-05-31 22:40:25 coldwind dev-scheme/stalin 2008-06-01 17:37:27 pchrist x11-terms/evilvte 2008-06-01 19:10:34 drac dev-perl/Font-TTF 2008-06-01 19:33:42 loki_val gnome-extra/gnome-user-docs 2008-06-01 20:45:26 remi -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 Removed Packages: media-sound/gtkguitune,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:52:48 media-sound/playspc_gtk,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:52:49 media-sound/yconsole,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:52:49 media-gfx/iv,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:53:32 media-video/gqcam,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:54:22 sys-apps/systrace,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:55:13 net-fs/coda-kernel,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:56:00 app-arch/debhelper,removed,yvasilev,2008-05-29 15:37:02 dev-lang/ezm3,removed,vapier,2008-05-31 04:40:00 dev-util/cvsup,removed,vapier,2008-05-31 04:40:21 media-fonts/fireflysung,removed,loki_val,2008-05-31 07:21:57 app-portage/portage-manpages,removed,vapier,2008-05-31 18:05:27 media-plugins/libao-pulse,removed,drac,2008-05-31 18:16:47 gnome-extra/gnome2-user-docs,removed,remi,2008-06-01 21:39:54 Added Packages: media-fonts/tibetan-machine-font,added,loki_val,2008-05-26 10:43:24 sci-biology/amos,added,weaver,2008-05-26 14:47:52 media-fonts/thaifonts-scalable,added,loki_val,2008-05-28 06:07:52 app-i18n/unicode-data,added,loki_val,2008-05-28 17:16:34 media-libs/raul,added,aballier,2008-05-29 08:24:48 x11-libs/flowcanvas,added,aballier,2008-05-29 08:43:51 media-sound/patchage,added,aballier,2008-05-29 08:46:53 app-emulation/fuse-utils,added,darkside,2008-05-30 01:56:01 x11-terms/sakura,added,jmglov,2008-05-30 07:39:36 media-fonts/opendesktop-fonts,added,loki_val,2008-05-30 08:10:37 dev-tex/translator,added,aballier,2008-05-30 13:10:37 media-fonts/cardo,added,swegener,2008-05-30 20:48:44 media-sound/qtscrobbler,added,yngwin,2008-05-31 01:04:34 net-misc/openssh-blacklist,added,vapier,2008-05-31 09:47:51 www-client/ck4up,added,bangert,2008-05-31 19:16:37 dev-scheme/ikarus,added,pchrist,2008-05-31 21:17:57 x11-misc/lsw,added,coldwind,2008-05-31 22:40:25 dev-scheme/stalin,added,pchrist,2008-06-01 17:37:27 x11-terms/evilvte,added,drac,2008-06-01 19:10:34 dev-perl/Font-TTF,added,loki_val,2008-06-01 19:33:42 gnome-extra/gnome-user-docs,added,remi,2008-06-01 20:45:26 Done.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June
Ryan Hill wrote: On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:41:28 +0200 Raúl Porcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO the packages should be keyworded if an arch team member or an user of that arch requests it. Keywording something if an user of said arch doesn't request it, is a waste of resources. How is making things available to your users a waste of resources? Anyways, if you're so far behind that you don't think you can manage keywording another package then just say so and deny the request. ++ I'd like to comment that in theory a package maintainer should have a decent idea of what archs a particular package should work on. I can't imagine that the vmware maintainers are going to be sending keyword requests to the sparc team... -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
