[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
On 12/15/2009 05:54 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
 The next meeting will be on 18 January 2010 at 1900UTC. The date was
 pushed back 2 weeks for various reasons but the main one is to let our
 livers recover. Which prompts me to make the following public
 announcement: Happy holidays! :o)
 
 I will be following up discussions on various mailing lists to prepare
 the agenda. If you already want to suggest topics feel free to reply
 to this thread. You'll get a second chance with the meeting reminder
 approximately two weeks before the meeting. I will be sending a
 message about the two topics which did not make it last time and
 explain why. I should have sent that much earlier but well... you
 know...
 
 Denis.
 
 

I will make it short, since i already requested it 3 times, did create a thread 
at gentoo-dev ML:

agenda topic: Discussion and approval for following item:

Adding real multilib features from current multilib-portage to currently 
hardmasked and testing
portage-2.2* for wider testing, more eyes looking at it and hopefully more 
people helping improving
it, so we can get a version, which most can accept for PMS and maybe next EAPI.

-- 
Thomas Sachau

Gentoo Linux Developer



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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 15-12-2009 23:57:41 -0100, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
 nomination: December 17th to 30th
 voting: January 1st to 14th
 
 To nominate anyone for the empty seat, please send an email to the
 gentoo-dev ml. Anyone can nominate for the Council, but only current
 Gentoo Developers can stand for and vote in the election.

I nominate (in no particular order):
lu_zero
patrick
scarabeus


-- 
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level



[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 15-12-2009 09:54:36 -0700, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
 I will be following up discussions on various mailing lists to prepare
 the agenda. If you already want to suggest topics feel free to reply
 to this thread. You'll get a second chance with the meeting reminder
 approximately two weeks before the meeting. I will be sending a
 message about the two topics which did not make it last time and
 explain why. I should have sent that much earlier but well... you
 know...

I'd like to council to discuss the current *$^!! policy of
-dev-announce and -dev.  I'd propose to at least implement the following
behaviour such that I:
- don't have to see some mails 3 (!) times and many 2 times
- don't get lost where the mail is/was
- get broken threading because the original mail was sent to another
  list

Proposed behaviour:
Aautomatically send all mail sent to -dev-announce to -dev.
Benefits:
- any reply-to hackery for -dev-announce to -dev unnecessary
- being subscrived to -dev alone is enough (alternatively -dev-announce
  can be /dev/null-ed)
- threads are complete, instead of scattered over some lists
- multiple copies can be avoided
- cross-list posting can be reduced to a minimum


-- 
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-20 Thread David Abbott

To nominate anyone for the empty seat, please send an email to the
gentoo-dev ml. Anyone can nominate for the Council, but only current
Gentoo Developers can stand for and vote in the election.


I nominate (in no particular order):
jmbsvicetto
tove
darkside

--
David Abbott (dabbott)
Gentoo PR | Trustees



[gentoo-dev] Re: Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-20 Thread Torsten Veller
* David Abbott dabb...@gentoo.org:
 I nominate (in no particular order):
 tove

Thanks, but I decline.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa

Fabian Groffen wrote:

On 15-12-2009 09:54:36 -0700, Denis Dupeyron wrote:

I will be following up discussions on various mailing lists to prepare
the agenda. If you already want to suggest topics feel free to reply
to this thread. You'll get a second chance with the meeting reminder
approximately two weeks before the meeting. I will be sending a
message about the two topics which did not make it last time and
explain why. I should have sent that much earlier but well... you
know...


I'd like to council to discuss the current *$^!! policy of
-dev-announce and -dev.  I'd propose to at least implement the following
behaviour such that I:
- don't have to see some mails 3 (!) times and many 2 times
- don't get lost where the mail is/was
- get broken threading because the original mail was sent to another
  list

Proposed behaviour:
Aautomatically send all mail sent to -dev-announce to -dev.
Benefits:
- any reply-to hackery for -dev-announce to -dev unnecessary
- being subscrived to -dev alone is enough (alternatively -dev-announce
  can be /dev/null-ed)
- threads are complete, instead of scattered over some lists
- multiple copies can be avoided
- cross-list posting can be reduced to a minimum




In general there are too many mail lists to even care about the 
semantics of -dev-announce. Even this thread is being carried out on 
-dev and -council. Well, that was the attempt, but no one that has 
replied so far is on the -council list so the attempted thread on that 
list is dead too.

-Jeremy



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa

David Abbott wrote:

To nominate anyone for the empty seat, please send an email to the
gentoo-dev ml. Anyone can nominate for the Council, but only current
Gentoo Developers can stand for and vote in the election.


I nominate (in no particular order):
jmbsvicetto
tove
darkside



Flattered, but I decline. I don't agree with the way the Council works 
and don't have motivation to attempt to change it.

-Jeremy



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 20 December 2009 09:49:09 Fabian Groffen wrote:
 On 15-12-2009 09:54:36 -0700, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
  I will be following up discussions on various mailing lists to prepare
  the agenda. If you already want to suggest topics feel free to reply
  to this thread. You'll get a second chance with the meeting reminder
  approximately two weeks before the meeting. I will be sending a
  message about the two topics which did not make it last time and
  explain why. I should have sent that much earlier but well... you
  know...
 
 I'd like to council to discuss the current *$^!! policy of
 -dev-announce and -dev.  I'd propose to at least implement the following
 behaviour such that I:
 - don't have to see some mails 3 (!) times and many 2 times
 - don't get lost where the mail is/was
 - get broken threading because the original mail was sent to another
   list

get a sane mail client that automatically handles messages with duplicate ids 
and references.  cant say ive ever noticed a problem with kmail.
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 20-12-2009 15:01:30 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 On Sunday 20 December 2009 09:49:09 Fabian Groffen wrote:
  On 15-12-2009 09:54:36 -0700, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
   I will be following up discussions on various mailing lists to prepare
   the agenda. If you already want to suggest topics feel free to reply
   to this thread. You'll get a second chance with the meeting reminder
   approximately two weeks before the meeting. I will be sending a
   message about the two topics which did not make it last time and
   explain why. I should have sent that much earlier but well... you
   know...
  
  I'd like to council to discuss the current *$^!! policy of
  -dev-announce and -dev.  I'd propose to at least implement the following
  behaviour such that I:
  - don't have to see some mails 3 (!) times and many 2 times
  - don't get lost where the mail is/was
  - get broken threading because the original mail was sent to another
list
 
 get a sane mail client that automatically handles messages with duplicate ids 
 and references.  cant say ive ever noticed a problem with kmail.

and gmane or even archives.g.o?


-- 
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level



[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-12-20 23h59 UTC

2009-12-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2009-12-20 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
app-emacs/ngnus 2009-12-14 15:59:44 ulm
sys-fs/dazuko   2009-12-14 19:16:14 hwoarang
dev-ruby/mislav-will_paginate   2009-12-15 19:56:07 flameeyes
net-analyzer/cacti-cactid   2009-12-20 19:10:36 pva

Additions:
media-sound/sndfile-tools   2009-12-14 12:53:52 aballier
media-sound/konvertible 2009-12-14 15:24:48 ssuominen
dev-ruby/minitest   2009-12-14 19:06:35 graaff
media-sound/karlyriceditor  2009-12-15 08:56:22 ssuominen
net-ftp/oneclickftp 2009-12-15 09:10:25 ssuominen
net-ftp/scythia 2009-12-15 11:14:47 ssuominen
dev-ruby/rdoc   2009-12-15 14:41:16 flameeyes
app-i18n/ibus-unikey2009-12-15 17:50:14 matsuu
dev-ruby/will_paginate  2009-12-15 19:55:31 flameeyes
net-ftp/qshare  2009-12-15 21:20:38 hwoarang
sys-boot/os-prober  2009-12-15 21:24:11 abcd
media-gfx/qosmic2009-12-16 10:36:42 ssuominen
dev-java/hp-jdk-bin 2009-12-16 14:46:22 haubi
app-emacs/nxml-libvirt-schemas  2009-12-16 19:12:59 flameeyes
dev-ruby/addressable2009-12-16 20:13:43 flameeyes
dev-util/gdbserver  2009-12-16 23:06:34 flameeyes
dev-lisp/clozurecl  2009-12-17 12:16:40 grozin
sci-mathematics/relational  2009-12-17 15:13:57 hwoarang
x11-misc/qps2009-12-17 23:13:35 spatz
dev-util/cucumber-rails 2009-12-18 08:49:59 graaff
app-misc/lockfile-progs 2009-12-18 17:37:05 phajdan.jr
dev-ruby/simple-rss 2009-12-18 17:50:45 graaff
dev-python/setproctitle 2009-12-20 04:40:48 arfrever
app-admin/logcheck  2009-12-20 10:05:08 phajdan.jr
dev-python/apiextractor 2009-12-20 16:22:32 ayoy
dev-python/generatorrunner  2009-12-20 16:24:49 ayoy
dev-python/boostpythongenerator 2009-12-20 16:26:59 ayoy
dev-python/pyside   2009-12-20 16:29:10 ayoy
dev-python/pyside-tools 2009-12-20 16:38:58 ayoy
sys-cluster/gearmand2009-12-20 19:19:34 flameeyes
dev-python/inotifyx 2009-12-20 20:20:14 sping
dev-python/sclapp   2009-12-20 20:43:41 sping
sys-fs/pytagsfs 2009-12-20 21:01:36 sping
dev-db/libdrizzle   2009-12-20 21:16:21 flameeyes
dev-ruby/yard   2009-12-20 23:38:35 flameeyes

--
Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux Developer
E-Mail : robb...@gentoo.org
GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85
Removed Packages:
app-emacs/ngnus,removed,ulm,2009-12-14 15:59:44
sys-fs/dazuko,removed,hwoarang,2009-12-14 19:16:14
dev-ruby/mislav-will_paginate,removed,flameeyes,2009-12-15 19:56:07
net-analyzer/cacti-cactid,removed,pva,2009-12-20 19:10:36
Added Packages:
media-sound/sndfile-tools,added,aballier,2009-12-14 12:53:52
media-sound/konvertible,added,ssuominen,2009-12-14 15:24:48
dev-ruby/minitest,added,graaff,2009-12-14 19:06:35
media-sound/karlyriceditor,added,ssuominen,2009-12-15 08:56:22
net-ftp/oneclickftp,added,ssuominen,2009-12-15 09:10:25
net-ftp/scythia,added,ssuominen,2009-12-15 11:14:47
dev-ruby/rdoc,added,flameeyes,2009-12-15 14:41:16
app-i18n/ibus-unikey,added,matsuu,2009-12-15 17:50:14
dev-ruby/will_paginate,added,flameeyes,2009-12-15 19:55:31
net-ftp/qshare,added,hwoarang,2009-12-15 21:20:38
sys-boot/os-prober,added,abcd,2009-12-15 21:24:11
media-gfx/qosmic,added,ssuominen,2009-12-16 10:36:42
dev-java/hp-jdk-bin,added,haubi,2009-12-16 14:46:22
app-emacs/nxml-libvirt-schemas,added,flameeyes,2009-12-16 19:12:59
dev-ruby/addressable,added,flameeyes,2009-12-16 20:13:43
dev-util/gdbserver,added,flameeyes,2009-12-16 23:06:34
dev-lisp/clozurecl,added,grozin,2009-12-17 12:16:40
sci-mathematics/relational,added,hwoarang,2009-12-17 15:13:57
x11-misc/qps,added,spatz,2009-12-17 23:13:35
dev-util/cucumber-rails,added,graaff,2009-12-18 08:49:59
app-misc/lockfile-progs,added,phajdan.jr,2009-12-18 17:37:05
dev-ruby/simple-rss,added,graaff,2009-12-18 17:50:45
dev-python/setproctitle,added,arfrever,2009-12-20 04:40:48
app-admin/logcheck,added,phajdan.jr,2009-12-20 10:05:08
dev-python/apiextractor,added,ayoy,2009-12-20 16:22:32
dev-python/generatorrunner,added,ayoy,2009-12-20 16:24:49
dev-python/boostpythongenerator,added,ayoy,2009-12-20 16:26:59
dev-python/pyside,added,ayoy,2009-12-20 16:29:10
dev-python/pyside-tools,added,ayoy,2009-12-20 16:38:58
sys-cluster/gearmand,added,flameeyes,2009-12-20 19:19:34
dev-python/inotifyx,added,sping,2009-12-20 20:20:14
dev-python/sclapp,added,sping,2009-12-20 20:43:41
sys-fs/pytagsfs,added,sping,2009-12-20 21:01:36
dev-db/libdrizzle,added,flameeyes,2009-12-20 21:16:21
dev-ruby/yard,added,flameeyes,2009-12-20 23:38:35

Done.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-20 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
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On 20-12-2009 15:13, David Abbott wrote:
 To nominate anyone for the empty seat, please send an email to the
 gentoo-dev ml. Anyone can nominate for the Council, but only current
 Gentoo Developers can stand for and vote in the election.
 
 I nominate (in no particular order):
 jmbsvicetto
 tove
 darkside
 

David,

thanks for the confidence, but as an official for this election, I have
to decline.

- -- 
Regards,

Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 20 December 2009 15:04:12 Fabian Groffen wrote:
 On 20-12-2009 15:01:30 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
  On Sunday 20 December 2009 09:49:09 Fabian Groffen wrote:
   On 15-12-2009 09:54:36 -0700, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
I will be following up discussions on various mailing lists to
prepare the agenda. If you already want to suggest topics feel free
to reply to this thread. You'll get a second chance with the meeting
reminder approximately two weeks before the meeting. I will be
sending a message about the two topics which did not make it last
time and explain why. I should have sent that much earlier but
well... you know...
  
   I'd like to council to discuss the current *$^!! policy of
   -dev-announce and -dev.  I'd propose to at least implement the
   following behaviour such that I:
   - don't have to see some mails 3 (!) times and many 2 times
   - don't get lost where the mail is/was
   - get broken threading because the original mail was sent to another
 list
 
  get a sane mail client that automatically handles messages with duplicate
  ids and references.  cant say ive ever noticed a problem with kmail.
 
 and gmane or even archives.g.o?

gmane is f-ed up already irregardless of what we do.  it eats cross-posted e-
mails for breakfast and doesnt tell anyone.

as for archives.g.o, file a bug if it isnt handling threading within a list 
properly.  i dont really see how your proposal here would break archives.g.o 
anyways.  someone sends an e-mail to both dev and dev-announce, it has the 
same id.  people respond and they all go to dev.  either way, archives.g.o 
should be seeing a sane thread on dev.
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] rewritten epatch

2009-12-20 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/19/2009 04:33 AM, Diego Elio “Flameeyes” Pettenò wrote:
 But I think that we should really use both: Patrick's should be better
 for I/O so maybe you (or Zac) can come up with a script to just try
 unpack and prepare phases for all ebuilds rather than keeping the whole
 merge…

A script that calls `ebuild foo.ebuild clean prepare` would probably
do the trick. It might be hard to know if the patches are applying
correctly though, until you try to build it.
-- 
Thanks,
Zac



[gentoo-dev] About treecleaners, a status update

2009-12-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa

Hello all,
The treecleaner team wanted to update you all on the status.

Bottom line: We could use more people.

What we do:
The treecleaner team last-rites and removes ebuilds as applicable. The 
reasons for removal are many. If we can trivially fix the package, we 
will try our best.

What we want to do:
We want to be more proactive, instead of reactive. It would be nice to 
seek out packages that haven't been touched in 4 years and do a QA 
audit. Similarly, it would be nice to *look* for bugs instead of just 
wait until they are assigned to us. We also lost the ability to vote on 
packages because all that we see are those that are already broken and 
there isn't enough collective time between us to vote.

How you can help:
If you are interested in joining the team. Stop by #gentoo-treecleaners in
irc 
and look for one of us. You do not need to be a dev to join the team.

Thanks,
Jeremy (on behalf of the treecleaners)