[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-office/abiword-plugins: abiword-plugins-2.6.4.ebuild ChangeLog abiword-plugins-2.4.6.ebuild abiword-plugins-2.6.5.ebuild abiword-plugins-2.6.

2010-02-11 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le mercredi 10 février 2010 à 23:02 +, Samuli Suominen (ssuominen) a
écrit :
 ssuominen10/02/10 17:41:06
 
   Modified: ChangeLog evince-2.24.2.ebuild
 evince-2.26.2.ebuild
 evince-2.28.1.ebuild evince-2.28.2.ebuild
   Log:
   Update poppler dependency for #304349
   (Portage version: 2.2_rc62/cvs/Linux x86_64)
 
 ssuominen10/02/10 23:02:49
 
   Modified: abiword-plugins-2.6.4.ebuild ChangeLog
 abiword-plugins-2.4.6.ebuild
 abiword-plugins-2.6.5.ebuild
 abiword-plugins-2.6.8.ebuild
 abiword-plugins-2.6.6.ebuild
   Log:
   Fix poppler depend.
   (Portage version: 2.2_rc62/cvs/Linux x86_64)

For the nth time, could you please fill a tracker bug and let
maintainers do their job and/or ask before doing things yourself.

-- 
Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org
Gentoo




Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-office/abiword-plugins: abiword-plugins-2.6.4.ebuild ChangeLog abiword-plugins-2.4.6.ebuild abiword-plugins-2.6.5.ebuild abiword-plugins-

2010-02-11 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/11/2010 11:16 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote:
 Le mercredi 10 février 2010 à 23:02 +, Samuli Suominen (ssuominen) a
 écrit :
 ssuominen10/02/10 17:41:06

   Modified: ChangeLog evince-2.24.2.ebuild
 evince-2.26.2.ebuild
 evince-2.28.1.ebuild evince-2.28.2.ebuild
   Log:
   Update poppler dependency for #304349
   (Portage version: 2.2_rc62/cvs/Linux x86_64)

 ssuominen10/02/10 23:02:49

   Modified: abiword-plugins-2.6.4.ebuild ChangeLog
 abiword-plugins-2.4.6.ebuild
 abiword-plugins-2.6.5.ebuild
 abiword-plugins-2.6.8.ebuild
 abiword-plugins-2.6.6.ebuild
   Log:
   Fix poppler depend.
   (Portage version: 2.2_rc62/cvs/Linux x86_64)
 
 For the nth time, could you please fill a tracker bug and let
 maintainers do their job and/or ask before doing things yourself.
 

I opened the bug for you, so you have been informed (for your overlay).
The change was trivial, and didn't change any functionality at all. The
ebuild simply pulls in now what the virtual did before.

Stop being over territorial, and let people do their job

Thanks, Samuli



[gentoo-dev] Remove dev-status of mips profiles

2010-02-11 Thread Torsten Veller
Can we please move the mips profiles from dev to exp in
profiles/profiles.desc?


The ~150 mips development profiles increase the time for a 
`repoman -d full` run in dev-perl/ from three to five minutes. That is
an increase of roughly 66 percent.
repoman further prints more than 2000 lines of output for two keywording
problems.

I can't remember any serious mips keywording activity in the last years.
I don't see why I should spend any more time on checking their profiles
and filing bugs for an unactive team.


Open KEYWORDREQ bugs:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=kw%3AKEYWORDREQ+owner%2Ccc%3Amips%40gentoo.org



Re: [gentoo-dev] Remove dev-status of mips profiles

2010-02-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 04:54:38PM +0100, Torsten Veller wrote:
 Can we please move the mips profiles from dev to exp in
 profiles/profiles.desc?
 
 
 The ~150 mips development profiles increase the time for a 
 `repoman -d full` run in dev-perl/ from three to five minutes. That is
 an increase of roughly 66 percent.
 repoman further prints more than 2000 lines of output for two keywording
 problems.

Quick pcheck visibility scan of the full tree, stats follow:

mips profiles still enabled:
* 116191 seperate dependency issues, 1 line per profile/dependency 
  issue
* roughly 2m39s run time

mips profiles disabled (leaving mips-irix however)
* 9550 seperate dependency issues, 1 line per profile/dependency issue
* roughly 1m54s run time.

So... mips accounts for about 30% of the pcheck runtime, and *92%* of 
known visibility issues.  As for the runtime difference between 
pcheck/repoman, pcheck has some tricks internally to reduce the # of 
profiles it has to scan down to just the unique USE/mask set- I'd 
expect the mips impact to be far larger w/out that trick in place.

At the very least if it's going to be kept around, experimental or 
not, the number of profiles in use there *really* needs reduction- 
mips has roughly 117 profiles listed in profiles.desc out of 217- 
literally ~54%  of all dev/stable/experimental profiles.

Either way, stats to chew on.
~harring


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Remove dev-status of mips profiles

2010-02-11 Thread Jeremy Olexa

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:41:41 -0800, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 04:54:38PM +0100, Torsten Veller wrote:
 Can we please move the mips profiles from dev to exp in
 profiles/profiles.desc?
 
 
 The ~150 mips development profiles increase the time for a 
 `repoman -d full` run in dev-perl/ from three to five minutes. That is
 an increase of roughly 66 percent.
 repoman further prints more than 2000 lines of output for two
keywording
 problems.
 
 Quick pcheck visibility scan of the full tree, stats follow:
 
 mips profiles still enabled:
 * 116191 seperate dependency issues, 1 line per profile/dependency 
   issue
 * roughly 2m39s run time
 
 mips profiles disabled (leaving mips-irix however)
 * 9550 seperate dependency issues, 1 line per profile/dependency issue
 * roughly 1m54s run time.
 
 So... mips accounts for about 30% of the pcheck runtime, and *92%* of 
 known visibility issues.  As for the runtime difference between 
 pcheck/repoman, pcheck has some tricks internally to reduce the # of 
 profiles it has to scan down to just the unique USE/mask set- I'd 
 expect the mips impact to be far larger w/out that trick in place.
 
 At the very least if it's going to be kept around, experimental or 
 not, the number of profiles in use there *really* needs reduction- 
 mips has roughly 117 profiles listed in profiles.desc out of 217- 
 literally ~54%  of all dev/stable/experimental profiles.

I agree, I wasn't sure why so many profiles were added[1] for a dead team
(for all intensive purposes). Seems quite silly to me to leave them as
'dev' status. If a member of the mips team would reply to this thread, that
would be good. (and surprising to me :)

I would guess that it would be far easier to work in an overlay at this
point. I would also guess that if there are ANY mips users out there that
they would have to use some other ACCEPT_KEYWORDS value because the shape
of ~mips is so...bad.
-Jeremy

[1]:
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/profiles/profiles.desc?r1=1.151r2=1.152

 
 Either way, stats to chew on.
 ~harring



Re: [gentoo-dev] Remove dev-status of mips profiles

2010-02-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 06:56:58PM +, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
 I would guess that it would be far easier to work in an overlay at this
 point. I would also guess that if there are ANY mips users out there that
 they would have to use some other ACCEPT_KEYWORDS value because the shape
 of ~mips is so...bad.

Might want to wait till the cvs-git transition occurs, assuming it's 
in the next few months- primarily, preserve history, they can just 
fork the tree off and mainline can start pruning.

Till then the profiles could pretty easily be disabled if folks 
wanted.
~harring


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Remove dev-status of mips profiles

2010-02-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 06:56:58PM +, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
  At the very least if it's going to be kept around, experimental or 
  not, the number of profiles in use there *really* needs reduction- 
  mips has roughly 117 profiles listed in profiles.desc out of 217- 
  literally ~54%  of all dev/stable/experimental profiles.

Correction also- they've got 154 rather than 117, meaning 71% of 
all profiles for a scan.

Not sure how I screwed that number up, but aparently I managed it.
~harring


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Remove dev-status of mips profiles

2010-02-11 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/11/2010 08:56 PM, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
 Can we please move the mips profiles from dev to exp in
 profiles/profiles.desc?
 The ~150 mips development profiles increase the time for a 
 `repoman -d full` run in dev-perl/ from three to five minutes. That is
 an increase of roughly 66 percent.
 repoman further prints more than 2000 lines of output for two
 keywording
 problems.

 Quick pcheck visibility scan of the full tree, stats follow:

 mips profiles still enabled:
 * 116191 seperate dependency issues, 1 line per profile/dependency 
   issue
 * roughly 2m39s run time

 mips profiles disabled (leaving mips-irix however)
 * 9550 seperate dependency issues, 1 line per profile/dependency issue
 * roughly 1m54s run time.

[ .. ]

 
 [1]:
 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/profiles/profiles.desc?r1=1.151r2=1.152

We could at least delete the server/desktop/developer profiles from the
above list right away, not really required to have them for every
machine type IMHO



[gentoo-dev] Developer Handbook should document how/when to touch arch profiles' files

2010-02-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
As set out in bug #304435 [1], we should declare some policy about
changes to arch profiles in devmanual or in the Developer Handbook.

Basically, I would want to have this apply to arch profile changes as
well:

[5] http://devmanual.gentoo.org/keywording/index.html says:
  = Keywording on Upgrades =

[...]
  Sometimes you may need to remove a keyword because of new
  unresolved dependencies. If you do this, you *must* file a bug
  notifying the relevant arch teams.

since it all to often happens that this isn't done, or is done after
the fact. It would be even more helpful to get some language
in there advising ebuild developers to coordinate this with the
relevant arch teams in advance so that keywords need not be dropped at
all, or that the package.mask entry can be minimised, or that damage
can be limited in whichever way is technically achievable.

The documentation about maintaining sub-profiles is thin already, so we
might as well start documenting it more generally as well.


Regards,
 jer


[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304435



[gentoo-dev] Re: Remove dev-status of mips profiles

2010-02-11 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org:
 I would guess that it would be far easier to work in an overlay at
 this point. I would also guess that if there are ANY mips users out
 there that they would have to use some other ACCEPT_KEYWORDS value
 because the shape of ~mips is so...bad.

 Don't remove an architecture.  Ask vapier what it means to reintroduce
it.  Even if it rots, mark it as unmaintained and wait for someone to
pick-up.

V-Li

-- 
Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project
URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode

URL:http://gentoo.faulhammer.org/


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