Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Disabling some of our Mail Lists

2010-04-20 Thread Vincent Launchbury
On 04/20/10 22:52, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> Hello,
> As suggested in bug 291860, I am heading up an infra cleanup project to 
> disable/close some mailing lists. Since the list is quite large, I want 
> to send it out for RFC. 

Going by archives.gentoo.org stats, the following lists are also
inactive, and are all listed as 'Primary Gentoo Mailing Lists' at
www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml

If there's a reason to keep any of them, perhaps they should be split
off to a 'Low-traffic Lists' section, as I can't see them being of much
use to most people.

gentoo-ppc-dev
   2010 - 0 posts
   2009 - 4 posts
   2008 - 9 posts
   2007 - 15 posts
gentoo-hppa
   2010 - 0 posts
   2009 - 0 posts
   2008 - 1 post
   2007 - 12 posts
gentoo-desktop-research
   2010 - 0 posts
   2009 - 0 posts
   2008 - 3 posts
   2007 - 12 posts
gentoo-admin
   2010 - 0 posts
   2009 - 8 posts
   2008 - 3 posts
   2007 - 3 posts
gentoo-web-user
   2010 - 4 posts
   2009 - 0 posts
   2008 - 10 posts
   2007 - 10 posts
gentoo-devrel
   2010 - 0 posts
   2009 - 1 post
   2008 - 2 posts
   2007 - 8 posts
gentoo-uk
   2010 - 0 posts
   2009 - 0 posts
   2008 - 16 posts
   2007 - 6 posts
gentoo-au
   2010 - 0 posts
   2009 - 0 posts
   2008 - 28 posts
   2007 - 24 posts
gentoo-vdr
   2010 - 0 posts
   2009 - 3 posts
   2008 - 8 posts
   2007 - 28 posts



[gentoo-dev] RFC: Disabling some of our Mail Lists

2010-04-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa

Hello,
As suggested in bug 291860, I am heading up an infra cleanup project to 
disable/close some mailing lists. Since the list is quite large, I want 
to send it out for RFC. A few of the important reasons to disable some 
of our mail lists are:


* Confusing to users because there are so many lists that aren't being 
used. How should you know which one is active without more research?

* More lists means more managing, more spam attempts and infra overhead.

I want to emphasize that the lists will be closed for new posts but the 
archives will remain available. Disabled lists can be re-enabled by 
filing an infra-bugs request. My suggestions to disable are as follows:


gentoo-doc-lt
Reason: Only 1 post, late 2008

gentoo-extreme-security
Reason: Never was a real project, 1 post.

gentoo-doc-id
Reason: Only posts have been 2 spam messages.

gentoo-forum-translations
Reason: 2 posts, 2007.

gentoo-translators
Reason: 3 posts, all spam. 2008

gentoo-arm
Reason: 4 posts total, last 2006. ACKd with team.

gentoo-gwn-fr
Reason: GWN is not active.

gentoo-gwn-pl
Reason: GWN is not active.

gentoo-dev-lang
Reason: 7 posts total, last 2007

gentoo-ia64
Reason: Not active. last 2006

tenshi-announce
Reason: Not used, current release is .11, last used for .4 2006

gentoo-scire
Reason: Dead, last 2008

tenshi-user
Reason: Not used, last 2006

gentoo-media
Reason: Besides spam, last used 2006

gentoo-proctors
Reason: Not used since 2007. 14 message total. ACKd with team.

gentoo-gwn-nl
Reason: GWN is not alive.

gentoo-doc-hu
Reason: Last project commit: 3 years ago, last ML 2007

gentoo-user-kr
Reason: Rarely used, last late 2009 with no reply

gentoo-doc-nl
Reason: last 2007

gentoo-gnustep
Reason: Keep but questionable. Probably be closed during next cleanup

gentoo-xbox
Reason: Dead project

gentoo-cygwin
Reason: Dead Project, last 2008

gentoo-gwn-de
Reason: GWN is not alive.

gnap-dev
Reason: Dead Project, some life recent but..?

www-redesign
Reason: Dead Project

gentoo-gwn
Reason: Dead project

gentoo-installer
Reason: Dead project

gentoo-performance
Reason: Not active, recent spam

gentoo-osx
Reason: Dead project



Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2010-04-21

2010-04-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa

On 04/20/2010 08:44 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:



   Another thing I've been working on is re-shaping the Gentoo code in
   a way that it's now ready to go upstream, at least from my point of
   view.  I have requested permission to merge it in a few hours ago:
   Let's see how upstream thinks about it.

   So that's the news I wanted to share with you.


Great, thanks! I've been waiting for your project to become more 
official for months. :) :)




[gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2010-04-21

2010-04-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Intro
=
  Some of you may remember that project of mine I worked on for
  GSOC 2009: collection of information on Gentoo user machine setups.

  I have been extending Smolt [1] (whose current upstream version
  collects information on hardware) to fit our interest in the
  software side of things.


News

  In the past days [2] I have been migrating the server side of Smolt
  to server-to-server communication.  What does that mean?

  Server-to-server communication
  --
When a client submits to the Gentoo Smolt Server, the server will
extract the part of interest to the common Smolt server (smolts.org)
and forward it.

As a consequence the needs for space in storage (quite a few SQL
tables, use flags per installed package, ..) and increased
processing time per submission are no problem to smolts.org
anymore.  Also we gain more direct access to "our" data from it.

  Another thing I've been working on is re-shaping the Gentoo code in
  a way that it's now ready to go upstream, at least from my point of
  view.  I have requested permission to merge it in a few hours ago:
  Let's see how upstream thinks about it.

  So that's the news I wanted to share with you.



Sebastian


[1] https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/
[2]
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=smolt.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/next
[3]
http://git.goodpoint.de/?p=smolt-gentoo.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/gentoo