Re: [gentoo-dev] app-editors/vim-7.3 and python[3] USE flags
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd thought that the new eclass was designed to ensure that if you asked for USE=python it was built for as many different python ABIs as was installed on your system (so python2 and python3 if they're both installed). I believe it's possible to ask the eclass which ABIs are installed, and ask for the either in-use or highest versions of those. If they're not mutually exclusive, and if vim won't break if they go away, then why should the user choose which ones to enable and disable? Why not just get them to say whether they want python support or not, and try to accomodate them for as many python versions as installed/possible. I realize there may be some controversy surrounding the new python eclass, however that does seem to be how most python packages work these days, so I'd say it's better to keep everything working the same way. Mike 5:) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkxuRQEACgkQu7rWomwgFXrpJQCgiMBnn9bWdbwtE4xcFsNmmKkV IV0An3FC4w3eImueLxZ7bwC3tLkv8+YC =uCL+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page
Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org said: Hi The Treecleaners project introduced ( over a month ) and new page[1] to track maintainer-needed packages. This page is automatically generated. You can make use of this page to track packages that needs your love instead of searching bugzilla or grep the entire tree. On behalf of the Treecleaners project awesome! this is really cool. perhaps even announce it on gentoo-dev- announce. a feature request / suggestion for improvement may be to include a link which shows bugzilla search results for the package directly (like the one you can see on the linked packages page). also, perhaps include a paragraph like the following: Gentoo developers and users are encouraged to pick up maintenance for maintainer-needed packages. Users can become maintainers for packages via the proxy-maintainer process (link to proxy-maintainer page - could not find it) anyway - great work! thanks Thilo [1]: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: OSS-QM again ...
* Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de schrieb: * Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net schrieb: FWIW, you (Enrico) might get more traction if you go a more official route. Do the whole FLOSS PR bulletin thing, announcing thru LWN, LinuxMag, LXer, etc. Slashdot and the like wouldn't be bad, either. Thanks for the tip, but I'm not actually good at PR and lacking time for that ;-o Okay, I've now created an sf.net project w/o bugtracker, maillist, etc: http://sourceforge.net/p/oss-qm/home/ cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de mobile: +49 151 27565287 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme --
Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:11:57AM -0700, Alec Warner wrote: Are you generating this and checking it in or is infra generating it on their end? I have some ideas for formatting and layout; plus it looks like you are just blobbing all the packages directly into the GuideXML which kind of sucks for structured data like this. Typically I'd go for something like maintainer-needed-packages.xml which just contains the data and then maintainer-needed.xml is a small webpage (no data on it at all) that includes some custom xsl that does the presentation. Examples of said behavior: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/index.xml?passthru=1 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/gleps.xml?passthru=1 -A I do it on my personal computer. Not related to infra at all. I did some changes to the page to include both Description and open bugs link ( plus the text Thilo suggested ) You may find it here[1]. I will be like this when the script run again As for the separate files, perhaps I could do that but I need some time to start implementing that. However I think the current structure of the page looks good now. [1]:http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang/maintainer-needed.xml On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi The Treecleaners project introduced ( over a month ) and new page[1] to track maintainer-needed packages. This page is automatically generated. You can make use of this page to track packages that needs your love instead of searching bugzilla or grep the entire tree. On behalf of the Treecleaners project [1]: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org Key ID: 441AC410 Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410 -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org Key ID: 441AC410 Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410 pgp8i95NSxjeH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:19:13PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote: [...] How often do you plan on doing updates? -A The script is running daily at 4:15 AM (UTC) I think but it only updates the page when needed. Using pquery it finds all the maintainer-needed packages. Then it compares this list to the yesterdays' one and decides if an update to the page is necessary or not -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org Key ID: 441AC410 Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410 pgpO5lRtRGLCH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page
The script is running daily at 4:15 AM (UTC) I think but it only updates the page when needed. Using pquery it finds all the maintainer-needed packages. Then it compares this list to the yesterdays' one and decides if an update to the page is necessary or not perhaps you can add a timestamp at the bottom to indicate when the list was last updated. dont know if the date on the right is updated but a timestamp would be more accurate. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:56:55PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote: The script is running daily at 4:15 AM (UTC) I think but it only updates the page when needed. Using pquery it finds all the maintainer-needed packages. Then it compares this list to the yesterdays' one and decides if an update to the page is necessary or not perhaps you can add a timestamp at the bottom to indicate when the list was last updated. dont know if the date on the right is updated but a timestamp would be more accurate. The date is accurate. I don't thing if there is a real need to know the exact time that this page was generated. -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org Key ID: 441AC410 Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410 pgpesBaRNNkkK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org said: the front page of http://gentoo.org/ now links to a Google Calendar (see side bar). this has been around for a while, but it seems it's been more of an underground thing, so it's time to raise its awareness. like other aspects of Gentoo, all Gentoo developers have access to it to add their own events. anything Gentoo related may be added of course ! meetings, events, scheduled package events, etc... the access step requires a bit of help though -- simply e-mail me off list your gmail account and we can get you set up. once you have access, you may easily pass it on to other Gentoo peeps. has somebody found a way to access the gentoo calendar at google via anonymous caldav or a plain ics read only url? i'd like to add the gentoo calendar to my favorite calendaring software. or are google non-customers limited to the web view? thanks Thilo -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:07:39AM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:56:55PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote: The script is running daily at 4:15 AM (UTC) I think but it only updates the page when needed. Using pquery it finds all the maintainer-needed packages. Then it compares this list to the yesterdays' one and decides if an update to the page is necessary or not perhaps you can add a timestamp at the bottom to indicate when the list was last updated. dont know if the date on the right is updated but a timestamp would be more accurate. The date is accurate. I don't thing if there is a real need to know the exact time that this page was generated. Can we break up the list for package with active bugs and packages without? I see a bunch of stuff in there that I use, but they've been extremely bugfree, so I've never bothered with any maintenance. Some bits: app-office/ledger net-misc/fakeidentd net-misc/wakeonlan net-nds/ldapvi sys-apps/blktool sys-apps/fxload sys-process/incron -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee Infrastructure Lead E-Mail : robb...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events
On Friday, August 20, 2010 18:01:32 Thilo Bangert wrote: Mike Frysinger said: the front page of http://gentoo.org/ now links to a Google Calendar (see side bar). this has been around for a while, but it seems it's been more of an underground thing, so it's time to raise its awareness. like other aspects of Gentoo, all Gentoo developers have access to it to add their own events. anything Gentoo related may be added of course ! meetings, events, scheduled package events, etc... the access step requires a bit of help though -- simply e-mail me off list your gmail account and we can get you set up. once you have access, you may easily pass it on to other Gentoo peeps. has somebody found a way to access the gentoo calendar at google via anonymous caldav or a plain ics read only url? i'd like to add the gentoo calendar to my favorite calendaring software. the link from the Gentoo page shows you the Google calendar ID: 88di0t0pl2cfau7oak48rbccfs%40group.calendar.google.com so use that to get a xml/ical/whatever link: https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/ID/public/basic https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/ID/public/basic.ics etc... -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Wiki(es) for Gentoo ?!
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:01:42 +0200, Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org wrote: Dear all, can somebody summarize what the status is for one or more wikies for gentoo - its users and/or its developers or whatever. I can see this: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/wiki/ There was a meeting (logs on this list) where the goals of the project were discussed and defined. Things like policies are still to be discussed. Infra has hardware ready and I have started building a set of git repos with the mediawiki sources for it. The testing wiki I host needs fixing because of a PHP update. I'll try to get to that this weekend. I'd like to know what and where someone interested in this could help. Thanks. Get the team to meet again and do the boring work (policies!). Or if you're into PHP talk to me about helping with the sources. Alex -- Alex Legler | Gentoo Security / Ruby a...@gentoo.org | a...@jabber.ccc.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:13:36PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:07:39AM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:56:55PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote: The script is running daily at 4:15 AM (UTC) I think but it only updates the page when needed. Using pquery it finds all the maintainer-needed packages. Then it compares this list to the yesterdays' one and decides if an update to the page is necessary or not perhaps you can add a timestamp at the bottom to indicate when the list was last updated. dont know if the date on the right is updated but a timestamp would be more accurate. The date is accurate. I don't thing if there is a real need to know the exact time that this page was generated. Can we break up the list for package with active bugs and packages without? I see a bunch of stuff in there that I use, but they've been extremely bugfree, so I've never bothered with any maintenance. Some bits: app-office/ledger net-misc/fakeidentd net-misc/wakeonlan net-nds/ldapvi sys-apps/blktool sys-apps/fxload sys-process/incron -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee Infrastructure Lead E-Mail : robb...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 That would be nice yes, but I can't think of a way to implement it atm. I will try to come up with something -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org Key ID: 441AC410 Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410 pgp5XYpYpHSHr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events
has somebody found a way to access the gentoo calendar at google via anonymous caldav or a plain ics read only url? i'd like to add the gentoo calendar to my favorite calendaring software. the link from the Gentoo page shows you the Google calendar ID: 88di0t0pl2cfau7oak48rbccfs%40group.calendar.google.com so use that to get a xml/ical/whatever link: https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/ID/public/basic https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/ID/public/basic.ics Thanks a lot! works like a charm. Perhaps this can even be added to the frontpage - like so: Calendar (ics) where ics is a link to the ics file. just an idea though. Again thanks. Thilo etc... -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Wiki(es) for Gentoo ?!
Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org said: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:01:42 +0200, Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org wrote: Dear all, can somebody summarize what the status is for one or more wikies for gentoo - its users and/or its developers or whatever. I can see this: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/wiki/ There was a meeting (logs on this list) where the goals of the project were discussed and defined. Things like policies are still to be discussed. uh - hhm. cant seem to find it. will look further, when i'm fully awake tomorrow. would be great to link to stuff like this from the project page, though. Infra has hardware ready and I have started building a set of git repos with the mediawiki sources for it. The testing wiki I host needs fixing because of a PHP update. I'll try to get to that this weekend. great - let me know. I'd like to know what and where someone interested in this could help. Thanks. Get the team to meet again and do the boring work (policies!). ok Or if you're into PHP talk to me about helping with the sources. do you have a TODO document laying around somewhere? i talk PHP from time to time. Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
