[gentoo-dev] FOSDEM 2011
Hey! According to the FOSDEM list: We hereby invite ideas and proposals for main speakers, and proposals for developer rooms. The call for stands and lightning talks will be done after announcing the accepted devrooms. I applied for a main track (regarding gentoo prefix on windows), and i wanted to ask around, if there is interest in a devroom/booth/etc again this year (to be early enough - we missed it last year, right ;)). who will be attending FOSDEM next year? haubi and i will most probably be there if our company funds it. if not, and my talk is accepted, at least i will be there. Markus
Re: [gentoo-dev] FOSDEM 2011
On 26-08-2010 10:10:49 +0200, Markus Duft wrote: I applied for a main track (regarding gentoo prefix on windows), and i wanted to ask around, if there is interest in a devroom/booth/etc again this year (to be early enough - we missed it last year, right ;)). who will be attending FOSDEM next year? chances are reasonable I will be there, and if we get a devroom, I can give a talk on some to be defined subject for sure -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level
Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 08:23:58PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote: agaffney had started work on quickstart, which basically did what the handbook did in an automatic fashion. i only tried it a couple of times, but it worked rather well. its a small and neat piece of code. for anybody looking at deploying Gentoo in an automatic fashion this is a good start: http://agaffney.org/quickstart.php I second that, we use it to all installs in our 3000 node cluster and it works fine for us. We've extended it to use our mysql-based server inventory and a bunch of additional features: * lvm-protection (not wiping named partitions on reinstall) * raid controller setup * ipmi configuration support * misc environment specific stuff The code is ugly and depends in most cases on an external information source to do the work, but given sufficient interest I'm willing to see if I can clean it up and make it generic enough for general use. We've been using it since 2007 or so and are reasonably happy with it, most of the gripes stem from the quality of our own changes rather than the base packages those changes were made upon :) So thanks, agaffney :) Grtz Ramon pgpNosHVb5g30.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] FOSDEM 2011
On 08/26/2010 10:33 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 26-08-2010 10:10:49 +0200, Markus Duft wrote: I applied for a main track (regarding gentoo prefix on windows), and i wanted to ask around, if there is interest in a devroom/booth/etc again this year (to be early enough - we missed it last year, right ;)). who will be attending FOSDEM next year? chances are reasonable I will be there, and if we get a devroom, I can give a talk on some to be defined subject for sure fine. i'll apply for a devroom then. i can give some heads up on the interix and windows stuff too, if my talk is rejected (otherwise i'll be talking about it there anyway ;)). markus
Re: [gentoo-dev] FOSDEM 2011
On 08/26/2010 10:55 AM, Markus Duft wrote: On 08/26/2010 10:33 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 26-08-2010 10:10:49 +0200, Markus Duft wrote: I applied for a main track (regarding gentoo prefix on windows), and i wanted to ask around, if there is interest in a devroom/booth/etc again this year (to be early enough - we missed it last year, right ;)). who will be attending FOSDEM next year? chances are reasonable I will be there, and if we get a devroom, I can give a talk on some to be defined subject for sure fine. i'll apply for a devroom then. i can give some heads up on the interix and windows stuff too, if my talk is rejected (otherwise i'll be talking about it there anyway ;)). i just applied for a gentoo devroom. i'll get notice about acceptance/reject until 2010-10-23. i will speak up then again :) booth registration is not yet open, i will have an eye on this too... (is there any interest in it anyway? who could come up with flyers, cds, etc.?) markus
Re: [gentoo-dev] FOSDEM 2011
On Thursday, August 26, 2010 05:01:27 Markus Duft wrote: booth registration is not yet open, i will have an eye on this too... (is there any interest in it anyway? who could come up with flyers, cds, etc.?) the booth is where you get non-Gentoo peeps stopping by, so yes -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] FOSDEM 2011
On 08/26/2010 12:01 PM, Markus Duft wrote: On 08/26/2010 10:55 AM, Markus Duft wrote: On 08/26/2010 10:33 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 26-08-2010 10:10:49 +0200, Markus Duft wrote: I applied for a main track (regarding gentoo prefix on windows), and i wanted to ask around, if there is interest in a devroom/booth/etc again this year (to be early enough - we missed it last year, right ;)). who will be attending FOSDEM next year? chances are reasonable I will be there, and if we get a devroom, I can give a talk on some to be defined subject for sure fine. i'll apply for a devroom then. i can give some heads up on the interix and windows stuff too, if my talk is rejected (otherwise i'll be talking about it there anyway ;)). i just applied for a gentoo devroom. i'll get notice about acceptance/reject until 2010-10-23. i will speak up then again :) I highly doubt you will get one because of: http://fosdem.org/2011/distrominiconf booth registration is not yet open, i will have an eye on this too... (is there any interest in it anyway? who could come up with flyers, cds, etc.?) Booth we could get but we should have some plans ready before applying. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] FOSDEM 2011
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:01:27 +0200, Markus Duft markus.d...@salomon.at wrote: booth registration is not yet open, i will have an eye on this too... (is there any interest in it anyway? who could come up with flyers, cds, etc.?) The Gentoo e.V. has printed flyers a year ago. There should be plenty left, especially in English. Talk to rbu, sping or hollow. Also, there's other stuff like T-Shirts, see https://www.gentoo-ev.org/wiki/Events for a few pictures. As for CDs, we've used the 10.1 LiveDVDs, simply burned to DVD-R, but with a nice printed label. You can expect to hand out at least 35 per day (we gave them to people for free after a short chat). -- Alex Legler | Gentoo Security / Ruby a...@gentoo.org | a...@jabber.ccc.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project
On 08/26/2010 10:38 AM, Ramon van Alteren wrote: The code is ugly and depends in most cases on an external information source to do the work, but given sufficient interest I'm willing to see if I can clean it up and make it generic enough for general use. That would be great ^^ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo
On 08/25/2010 08:29 PM, Duncan wrote: But that was pretty much decided some time ago, based on my following of the relevant discussions here and elsewhere, so why are you arguing a point that's not being argued any more? I believe that's what Mike's WTFing about. It's not that you're wrong, you're not, it's that you're debating a question that's no longer being asked. See: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/67098 and http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/67098 The post I replied to cited upstream issues as a reason not to adopt OpenRC. My point is that upstream issues are not a distinguishing factor between OpenRC and baselayout-1. It isn't like I'm re-opening a thread from months ago. I'm replying directly to a point others have raised. If there is no debate about whether OpenRC should be adopting it, then why is it even being discussed in this way? Let's just do it... Rich
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo
On Thursday, August 26, 2010 13:02:15 Richard Freeman wrote: If there is no debate about whether OpenRC should be adopting it, then why is it even being discussed in this way? Let's just do it... there is no debate. people saw Roy moving on and got scared. as i said originally, it makes no difference to us. we're moving to openrc and it will continue to be our default init system for the foreseeable future and the support channel is unchanged: go to bugs.gentoo.org. as for people who want to move to the latest shiny init, as i also said before, nothing is stopping them from getting it working today. we've had alternative init systems in the past that drop-in replace baselayout/openrc and there will continue to be ones in the future. however, until someone actually does the work to get one of the alternatives in the tree and actually working with other packages, there is no debate to be had as to the default init package. i'd also highlight that openrc focuses on one thing: it exists to boot the system and manage daemons via init scripts. it does not do all of the extended things that systemd is taking over (inetd, crond, udevd, etc...). -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 02:07:44PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: On 08/26/2010 10:38 AM, Ramon van Alteren wrote: The code is ugly and depends in most cases on an external information source to do the work, but given sufficient interest I'm willing to see if I can clean it up and make it generic enough for general use. That would be great ^^ Looks like I need to re-acquaint myself with teh current status of the project, massive amount of changes since I last looked, it even gained a server :) I'll see if I can port our lsi/dell raid support, that's probably useful for other folks. Ramon pgp6REtkNGpfB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] FOSDEM 2011
On 2010.08.26 13:07, Alex Legler wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:01:27 +0200, Markus Duft markus.d...@salomon.at wrote: booth registration is not yet open, i will have an eye on this too... (is there any interest in it anyway? who could come up with flyers, cds, etc.?) The Gentoo e.V. has printed flyers a year ago. There should be plenty left, especially in English. Talk to rbu, sping or hollow. Also, there's other stuff like T-Shirts, see https://www.gentoo-ev.org/wiki/Events for a few pictures. As for CDs, we've used the 10.1 LiveDVDs, simply burned to DVD-R, but with a nice printed label. You can expect to hand out at least 35 per day (we gave them to people for free after a short chat). -- Alex Legler | Gentoo Security / Ruby a...@gentoo.org | a...@jabber.ccc.de Team, The Foundation could fund flyers and CD/DVDs if there is some organisation, a shipping address and so on. There some guidelines at http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/funding-request-policy.xml Will there be a new DVD? 10.1 is about a year old already. I'm not making a funding offer on behalf of the trustees, that will require a trustees vote, just pointing out a possibility. I might get there this year but I won't know until Christmas. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees
Re: [gentoo-dev] FOSDEM 2011
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Roy Bamford neddyseag...@gentoo.org wrote: Will there be a new DVD? 10.1 is about a year old already. likewhoa has been working on a new version and it is almost ready. He has run into a show stopper as nox is not working and needs some help, if anyone has the time to help him figure it out. He can be found on #gentoo-ten. thanks david -- David Abbott (dabbott) Gentoo http://dev.gentoo.org/~dabbott/
[gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo
Mike Frysinger posted on Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:29:42 -0400 as excerpted: On Thursday, August 26, 2010 13:02:15 Richard Freeman wrote: If there is no debate about whether OpenRC should be adopting it, then why is it even being discussed in this way? Let's just do it... people saw Roy moving on and got scared. That sums it up nicely, Vapier. Thanks. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman