Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-fonts/font-misc-misc: ChangeLog font-misc-misc-1.0.0.ebuild

2010-11-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:52:11 -0600
Jeremy Olexa  wrote:

>  On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:34:32 + (UTC), Michal Gorny (mgorny)
> wrote:
> > mgorny  10/11/20 17:34:32
> >
> >   Modified: ChangeLog
> >   Removed:  font-misc-misc-1.0.0.ebuild
> >   Log:
> >   Remove redundant version.
> 
>  Since when is it ok to ignore [easily avoided] repoman warnings?

My bad. Too many packages mangled over a short period of time, and my
eyes missed them.

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Best regards,
Michał Górny


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Change policy about live ebuilds

2010-11-23 Thread Mark Loeser
Markos Chandras  said:
> Hi there,
> 
> The official policy for live ebuilds is the following one:
> 
> http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/functions/src_unpack/cvs-sources/index.html
> 
> I don't quite agree with this policy and I guess most of you don't agree
> either looking at the number of live ebuilds/package.mask entries.
> 
> My proposal is to keep empty keywords on live ebuilds without masking
> them via package.mask
> 
> Users interpret this as a 'double masking' which in fact it is since
> they need to touch two files before they are able to use the package.
> 
> I also know that we can use overlays for that, but distribute the
> ebuilds among dev/proj overlays is not always a solution.

I'm personally against such a change and would infact like to see all
live packages nuked from the tree and moved to some experimental tree.
If you move them there, I don't care what policies you apply, but we
should try to maintain a solid set of working packages in the main tree,
which no one can guarantee with a live ebuild.  I know most people
aren't going to agree with me, but I felt the need to say it anyway.

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Mark Loeser
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[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.5 unmasking tomorrow

2010-11-23 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 06:36:15 +
Graham Murray  wrote:

> Mike Frysinger  writes:
> 
> > well, not quite.  the way we agreed in the past was to not revbump the 
> > masked 
> > package, but once it was unmasked, we revbump it just once at that point.

Gotcha.

> Is there somewhere which tells users when there are upgrades to
> toolchain packages which are not revbumped once they have been unmasked
> and in ~arch?

At least for gcc I put bug numbers and info into the ChangeLog.  If you're
fanatic you can subscribe to the gentoo-commits ml and set up some filters
(that's what I do ;)).

Generally if you're not actively hitting a showstopping bug, you don't need
the update.  And if you are, you're probably on the CC list in bugzilla.

> A case in point, glibc-2.12.1-r3. When I rebuilt this following the
> merging of linux-headers-2.6.36, the rebuilt downloaded about 700K of
> patches.

As Mike said, this was adding support for other architectures that were
previously not keyworded.


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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-fonts/font-misc-misc: ChangeLog font-misc-misc-1.0.0.ebuild

2010-11-23 Thread Jeremy Olexa

On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:34:32 + (UTC), Michal Gorny (mgorny) wrote:

mgorny  10/11/20 17:34:32

  Modified: ChangeLog
  Removed:  font-misc-misc-1.0.0.ebuild
  Log:
  Remove redundant version.


Since when is it ok to ignore [easily avoided] repoman warnings?

KEYWORDS.dropped  2
   media-fonts/font-misc-misc/font-misc-misc-1.1.0.ebuild: amd64-linux 
ppc-macos sparc-solaris x64-solaris x86-interix x86-linux x86-macos 
x86-solaris
   media-fonts/font-misc-misc/font-misc-misc-1.1.2.ebuild: amd64-linux 
ppc-macos sparc-solaris x64-solaris x86-interix x86-linux x86-macos 
x86-solaris


which causes issues like https://bugs.gentoo.org/346411

-Jeremy



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Change policy about live ebuilds

2010-11-23 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 11/23/10 02:46, Markos Chandras wrote:
> Thank you. Like the fellow devs said before, KEYWORDS are there to
> indicate whether a package works for an arch or not. Empty keywords
> simply means "hey, this package is not tested in this arch" which is the
> exact point of a live ebuild. However, p.mask is for more severe issues
> which might not always apply on live ebuilds. p.mask entry should be
> *optional* not mandatory. Afterall, few of us use p.mask for live
> ebuilds. Why not make it official policy anyway?

+1 on exactly that.



Sebastian



Re: [gentoo-dev] Cobra as a Python replacement for portage infra...

2010-11-23 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 11/23/10 11:43, Branko Badrljica wrote:
> I figured it still beats classic interpreter.

Have you compared to optimized Python byte code, i.e. .pyo files?



Sebastian



Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-lang/v8 SONAME

2010-11-23 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 10/29/10 11:33 AM, James Rowe wrote:
> * "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." (phajdan...@gentoo.org) wrote:
>> I'm curious: do you have some more ebuilds using v8? It'd be great to
>> add them to the portage tree at some point, if possible. Or maybe
>> sunrise overlay...
> 
>   We took the easy way out and chose Debian because v8/nodejs were
> packaged when we needed them, but we'd prefer to be using Gentoo.  That
> is the reason I jumped straight in when I saw the mail subject.

FYI, dev-lang/v8 is now in ~arch. If you'd like some additional packages
in portage like nodejs, please file bugs. Feel free to CC me.

Also, let me know if the v8 support in Gentoo can be somehow improved,
even if you're not using it yet. I'd like to get feedback from people
who are using it for other applications than www-client/chromium.

Paweł Hajdan, Jr.



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[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-cpp/libgtksourceviewmm

2010-11-23 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
# Gilles Dartiguelongue  (23 Nov 2010)
# Last rites: dev-cpp/libgtksourceviewmm
# Removal: 2010-12-23
# Bug: #298158
# Old name of gtksourceviewmm, not used by anything in tree.
# Masked with approval of remi.
dev-cpp/libgtksourceviewmm

-- 
Gilles Dartiguelongue 
Gentoo




Re: [gentoo-dev] Cobra as a Python replacement for portage infra...

2010-11-23 Thread Branko Badrljica

S, René 'Necoro' Neumann piše:



Don't forget, that Cobra compiles to C# which then is compiled to .NET
CLI. I don't think, that anyone here feels really good about having the
core package of Gentoo to require Mono.


Uh. I didn't know that. I've read only that it gets compiled into 
bytecode, which is then compiled into native code.
It seemed convoluted, but what the heck, I figured it still beats 
classic interpreter.

I didn't know it uses Mono etc.

In that case, forget that I asked - this thing seems awkward from more 
than one angle...








[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.5 unmasking tomorrow

2010-11-23 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Nikos Chantziaras :
> On 11/23/2010 09:32 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 23, 2010 01:36:15 Graham Murray wrote:
> >> Mike Frysinger  writes:
> >>> well, not quite.  the way we agreed in the past was to not
> >>> revbump the masked package, but once it was unmasked, we revbump
> >>> it just once at that point.
> >>
> >> Is there somewhere which tells users when there are upgrades to
> >> toolchain packages which are not revbumped once they have been
> >> unmasked and in ~arch?
> >
> > if they arent revbumped, then the changes dont matter to you
> 
> This isn't always the case though, due to developer mistakes.
> Sometimes when doing emerge -e system, there are changes in /etc
> files that affect runtime behavior rather than build behavior.  And
> it seems to happen quite often.  This is with non-masked packages
> though.

 Sometimes it is not a mistake but laziness.  Some minor fixes in
configuration files are quite common.

V-Li

-- 
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http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.5 unmasking tomorrow

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, November 23, 2010 02:56:17 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 11/23/2010 09:32 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 23, 2010 01:36:15 Graham Murray wrote:
> >> Mike Frysinger writes:
> >>> well, not quite.  the way we agreed in the past was to not revbump the
> >>> masked package, but once it was unmasked, we revbump it just once at
> >>> that point.
> >> 
> >> Is there somewhere which tells users when there are upgrades to
> >> toolchain packages which are not revbumped once they have been unmasked
> >> and in ~arch?
> > 
> > if they arent revbumped, then the changes dont matter to you
> 
> This isn't always the case though, due to developer mistakes.

now you're talking about a bug that should be reported
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Cobra as a Python replacement for portage infra...

2010-11-23 Thread René 'Necoro' Neumann
Am 23.11.2010 09:52, schrieb Branko Badrljica:
>
> My question is, could existing Portage infrastructure be ported to such
> language with minimal effort and would it be worthwile to even try ?
> 
> There are many operations that now take portage ages to complete, so it
> seems that this could be benefitial...

Don't forget, that Cobra compiles to C# which then is compiled to .NET
CLI. I don't think, that anyone here feels really good about having the
core package of Gentoo to require Mono.

> Has anyone of Pythonistas tried to give Cobra a look or two ?

One and a half year ago, yes. Looked nice, but the language then was
still in a flow, and I didn't get used to mono and all the 'what
libraries is he going to use from where?' stuff.

I then even tried to make an ebuild, but this didn't work out. Might be
different now.

- Necoro





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