RE: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ideas for projects...
K, so my account hasn't been retired yet, so I'm making this comment as a developer (at least until someone gets around to my retirement bug). :-) I really like blubb's idea here. Not just of implementing GLEP 42, but the idea of having the Council responsible for overseeing and assigning tasks for the implementation of ALL approved GLEPs. Maybe GLEP 42 could be the pilot. :-) Jason Huebel -Original Message- From: Simon Stelling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:24 PM To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ideas for projects... I like the idea. Something really useful I could think of is *drums* the implementation of GLEP 42. -- Kind Regards, Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64 Developer -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo group on Flickr - repost from pl.g.o
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 6:00 am, Stuart Herbert wrote: Reposted from http://planet.gentoo.org for the devs who live in caves^H^H^Hdon't read planet.gentoo.org. Best regards, Stu -- http://www.flickr.com/groups/gentoo/ Whilst sat here this morning waiting for the NX packages to build, it occured to me that we don't have our own group on Flickr. Bit odd really, when you think of how many of us enjoy photography as a hobby. Well, we do now :) So, if you're a Gentoo dev, come join the group, and share your photos with the rest of us :) Let's see if, between us, we can build a rich and varied view of the world that we live, work, and play in. Just one request ... please, no screenies. Let's keep this to photography. I put a few photos out there. Nothing special, as I'm not a great photographer. Enjoy! :-) -- Jason Huebel Gentoo Developer GPG Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x9BA9E230 Do not weep; do not wax indignant. Understand. Baruch Spinoza (1632 - 1677) pgpo2v6n403y6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement
On Friday 03 November 2006 1:15 pm, Jon Portnoy wrote: I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop. I mostly only maintain a small handful of ebuilds, I'm sure they can find proper homes quickly. None are maintenance-intensive. And of course, the only thing anyone is really concerned about; robbat2 has already laid claim to fortune-mod-gentoo-dev ;) Later. It's been fun, it's been real, but it hasn't been real fun. :) I'll be around #gentoo/#-dev. -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net Sorry to see you go Jon. I've appreciated your guidance over the years, particularly when I took on the daunting task of managing Gentoo/amd64 in early 2004. Gentoo feels a little smaller with your departure. -- Jason Huebel Gentoo Developer GPG Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x9BA9E230 Do not weep; do not wax indignant. Understand. Baruch Spinoza (1632 - 1677) pgpvMK35rJlJa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation
On Saturday 07 October 2006 4:19 pm, Tim Yamin wrote: All, I'm afraid that I find that my position with Gentoo is no longer tenable. Over the past year and especially over the past few months the ability to keep Gentoo a coherent and smooth environment has been eroded and hindered at practically every opportunity by bad decisions, staff, and in some cases, downright incompetence. Which is all the more reason to stay on and work toward being in a position to change things. If all the competent people leave, then who's left to run things? Although I've stayed in the background for some time now, I have been watching the direction that Gentoo is taking. I'm not at the point where I think Gentoo (as a community) is a lost cause. Far from it. But I do think that the Gentoo community has lacked some focus and direction in the past couple of years. Certainly, individual projects have focused on the core goals they have. And that's a great thing. But it seems that there a lack of cohesive strategy at higher levels. Gentoo management has become watered down and less effective. Here's where I'm probably going to draw out the typically trolls who think it's their way or the highway, but let me preface my next comment by saying that I have the utmost respect for those who are working within the current management framework. However, I think the Gentoo council-- as the top level of the management structure-- consistently fails the Gentoo community in the area of focus and vision. A project the size of Gentoo needs a leader, not just a governing council. Someone who embodies the vision of the distribution and provides management focus. While some of you may disagree, I believe the Gentoo community had that focus under drobbins. I'm not saying that we install Daniel as the supreme dictator of Gentoo. I'm just saying that /someone/ should be elected as the buck stops here guy (or girl). A person who decides what the goals are for the distribution and (at a high level) manages the development to that end. Someone who has the authority to say no. The council would act as an advising board to that person, but this leader would have the power to decide what the priorities are in Gentoo. Of course, that person should be someone who is well respected within the community and active on a daily basis with development. So obviously, I'm not nominating myself. :-) I think the 2006 Gentoo Council results[1] represent a really good cross-section of people who would do a fine job. However, I think the Gentoo lead should be a seperate entity. Thoughts, comments? This is not an attempt to start an argument or flamewar. These are frank, sincere comments from a concerned developer. Anyway, I'm sorry to see you go plasmaroo. I can understand your frustration. But it's a shame that good developers feel that their only recourse is to resign. -- Jason Huebel Gentoo Developer GPG Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x9BA9E230 Do not weep; do not wax indignant. Understand. Baruch Spinoza (1632 - 1677) [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/voting-logs/council-2006-results.txt -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Spider's Resignation from the Project
My heart sank more and more as I read spider's retelling of Gentoo history. He's right, you know. There are too many agendas, too much bickering, crushing bureacracy and a declining number of personal relationships within our community. Thankfully, the small group of people I call friends within the community still remain (many of them from the amd64 team, naturally). But I admit that I'm just as guilty of becoming distant from fellow developers. And it's for many of the reasons that spider discussed. The bureaucracy has grown to the point that it's a hassle to get anything done. If you have to rely on a herd to complete something, then the expectation is that you should file a bug report. And bugzilla is the gaping maw inside which time stands still. I commented on what I thought should be done to bring some focus and vision back to Gentoo in my reply to plasmaroo's resignation email. Sadly, I doubt anything will come of it. If anything good can come out of plasmaroo and spider's resignation, maybe it's that the remaining veteran developers-- developers who remember Gentoo's glory days-- will the spurred to action and lead Gentoo away from its current melancholy. I know this has been jarring for me. So much so that I intend to be much more active in IRC and on the -dev and -core MLs. I don't intend to file bugs internally anymore unless I simply can't contact a developer within a herd directly through IRC or email. -- Jason Huebel Gentoo Developer GPG Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x9BA9E230 Do not weep; do not wax indignant. Understand. Baruch Spinoza (1632 - 1677) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping phpgroupware from the Portage tree
On Sunday 20 November 2005 5:38 am, Stuart Herbert wrote: Hi, I've just masked the package 'www-apps/phpgroupware', and will be dropping it from the tree soon. There are a number of issues with the project, including: * Outstanding security bugs * Upstream homepage no longer available * No real releases in over a year 'www-apps/egroupware' is an actively-maintained fork of phpgroupware, and is available via Portage for anyone looking for an alternative. Best regards, Stu This looks like one of those things that should be announced in GWN or something. phpgroupware is still widely used and users need to know Gentoo is dropping support for it in favor of egroupware. -- Jason Huebel Gentoo Board Of Trustees Member Gentoo Developer Relations/Recruiter GPG Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x9BA9E230 Do not weep; do not wax indignant. Understand. Baruch Spinoza (1632 - 1677) pgpEBZuAbRR0P.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] New Developer: dang
It's with pleasure that I announce a new developer: Dang. Dang has been working as an Arch Tester for AMD64 for a while now and has proven himself to be an asset to the team. So we felt it would be good to officially make him a developer. He'll be helping with amd64 bug squashing of course, along with helping out the gnome herd. Welcome dang! -- Jason Huebel Gentoo/amd64 Strategic Lead Gentoo Developer Relations Operational Lead Gentoo Recruiter GPG Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x9BA9E230 Do not weep; do not wax indignant. Understand. Baruch Spinoza (1632 - 1677) pgpiBzggNQ3Ly.pgp Description: PGP signature
