Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devaway for me, for a whole year period(military service)
SPARTA! /me hides 2009/8/11 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org Dne úterý 11 Srpen 2009 19:32:51 Markos Chandras napsal(a): Now, it is my time to say goodbye ( but not forever ) . I am *forced* to join the greek army from 16/8/2009 until May 2010. So I wont be active during this period. When I come back, I expect a more shiny Gentoo which will provide great experiences to our users. So long people. It was a pleasure to work with you so far. See you in May :) See ya slacker ;] And have fun without the computers for the time, so when you came back you will be 500% eager to work : Tomas -- Mauricio Lima Pilla -- UFPEL pi...@ufpel.edu.br, mauricio.pi...@gmail.com, pi...@gentoo.org http://minerva.ufpel.edu.br/~pilla I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept. -- Calvin
[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council nominations are now closed
What are the nominees intending to do if they are elected? I miss the manifests. On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello fellow devs, users and Gentoo community. The nominations for the empty seat in the 2008 Gentoo Council were closed at 23:59:59 UTC November 28th, 2008. The voting for the empty seat will begin in a few minutes and will end at 23:59:59 UTC December 5th. There were 11 nominees to the empty seat in the council, of which 5 will run on this election. All details about the nominations can be checked at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/elections/council-200811-nominees.xml The nominees who have accepted their nominations for this election are: - - dev-zero - - jer - - leio - - ssuominen - - ulm If you're an eligible voter, to cast your vote for this election you need to login to dev.gentoo.org and run the following commands, in the order specified. * votify --new council2008b - This creates a new ballot in your homedir. * Edit the .ballot-council2008b file and rank the candidates. * Once you're sure, run votify --verify council2008b to check the validity of the ballot. * If that goes through fine, the next and final step is to submit your vote using votify --submit council2008b * In case you're stuck, detailed help can be accessed by using votify --help or feel free to drop by #gentoo-elections on IRC. If you think you are eligible to vote, but cannot, please contact one of the officials. * Grab a beer, have fun, sit back and enjoy the show ... till we announce the results ;) An important point in this election is the new *_reopen_nominations* candidate. If this candidate ranks over all other candidates, the election will be reopened. Any candidate that ranks below this candidate won't be taken into account if there's a need to replace any member of the council until the end of term. For the election officials Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / SPARC / KDE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkwpowACgkQcAWygvVEyAIQGwCcDjFV2MVoIROnZet85KTnLPbL RkQAn2bep11hYbLwrrKivFSwF1/dD3lb =iJ0w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mauricio Lima Pilla -- UFPEL [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minerva.ufpel.edu.br/~pilla I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept. -- Calvin
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Tobias Scherbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Mark Loeser wrote: I personally don't see why they should be allowed to stay part of our communication channels where they have caused problems bad enough to get them retired. With that being said, I think the same technical issues come into play here as with banning someone from Gentoo entirely. I agree on this. I'd limit this ban to channels where they have caused problems though (or channels which they've been taking part of), banning them on each and every #gentoo-* channel is just an unnecessary overhead imho. And for the given technical restrictions they'd be banned as suggested, when they are coming back using another IP or another nick the same rules would apply as for every other user - warning and ban if they're misbehaving. I am not sure how we would be able to enforce this across the board for forcefully retired developers. It's not really possible without some huge work overhead to fully ban someone - therefore given limitations as described above would apply. Everything else is not doable from my pov. Tobias Although it isn't feasible in practice, such a policy would allow us to defenestrate forcefully retired developers that keep coming back to mailing lists or channels with the same attitude that got then kicked, without having to resort to long process and waste of our human resources. We wouldn't have to go through the same process over and over again: if somebody was retired and keeps doing the same things as when was a developer, then people in charge of channels or mailing lists might take instant action as they find it necessary. If they get a new attitude after retired, I'm sure that the people in charge will not take the extra work to ban them for nothing. My R$ 0.02. Pilla
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]
Chris++ On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 15:50 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Do you think that the differences between the proportion of patches from 'Paludis people' that are accepted or rejected and the proportion of patches from 'Portage people' or 'Pkgcore people' indicates a problem? Nope. What I see as a problem is that the primary author and current de facto maintainer is so much of an asshole that he was forcibly removed from the Gentoo project, which PMS is supposed to be written for, and has ostracized (at least) one of the package manager's development team with his constant not-so-subtle attacks. Quite frankly, I'd prefer see Gentoo take control over the specification that defines the most important single feature of Gentoo and remove the non-Gentoo developers from its development. No offense, but you're not a Gentoo developer any longer and you shouldn't have a say in how *we* manage ourselves. You're more than welcome to contribute code, fork, or whatever the hell you want. This is open source, after all, but that doesn't mean you should be allowed to hold the position of power over Gentoo that you've been granted. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Games Developer -- Mauricio Lima Pilla Polytechnic Center - UCPEL [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://g3pd.ucpel.tche.br/~pilla key 0x37705BE0 I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept. -- Calvin
Re: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2 (resend)
Pardon me if you receive this message two times, I'm not sure it went to the ml the first time: On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 04:49:12PM -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 14:08 -0300, Mauricio Lima Pilla wrote: Good luck for the remaining proctors, they will need as they aparently can't even expect any support from council members. There's a *BIG* difference between support and blind support. Nobody ever promised the proctors blind support. And the proctors never asked for blind support. If you didn´t like something the proctors did, you should have contacted them first before unauthorizing them in a public mailing list, asking why they did so. The way you did it, it was like you wanted the proctors to fail. As for the guidelines, as far as I remember you were invited to discuss them with the proctors and in some point you chose to leave the process. Pilla signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 13:48:53 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: That wasn't what I said. What I said was that the forums staff have no accountability, and that the proctors were suffering as a result of containing too many of said forums staff. That's bullshit. We are subject to the same rules as the other gentoo devs/staffs. Stop spreading your FUD around (I think I said that before). As for the forum staff in the proctors, I think that some of us could be found in the proctors because we cared and we tried to do something to improve our communication media (if we had any success on it, that's another discussion). But the number of forum staff in the proctors has recently decreased, as amne, jmbsvicetto, and myself decided to step down and leave the proctors. Good luck for the remaining proctors, they will need as they aparently can't even expect any support from council members. Cheers Pilla signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's problems
On Thursday 15 March 2007 14:46:46 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Why are those responsible for the forums unwilling to accept any feedback or criticism, instead attacking the attacker or accusing the attacker of merely being one of my pawns? Or, when it happens on the forums, making unspecific vaguely worded threats to ban anyone that does it? At least the Portage developers *admit* that their codebase sucks. We are always ready to listen to feedback and constructive criticism, but your constant trolling against the forums can't be classified as such. -- Mauricio Lima Pilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 13:06:13 Stephen Bennett wrote: ... I think his intention was to demonstrate that the idea is implausible, at best counterproductive and at worst disastrous. Which it is, and which he did fairly well. Or maybe he wanted to make it sound like the idea was implausible, which it isn't IMO. -- Mauricio Lima Pilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 15:01:49 Stephen Bennett wrote: And if refusing to use code credited to that individual means that we can't use the linux kernel or bash? We don't need to bother hunting all the contributions in all open-source projects to avoid them, as it would be much of a PITA. We can be selective and not accept code directly submitted by such users, which would clearly state that some developer is persona non grata in our project. I think the idea is more to prevent somebody that can be technically sound to poison the environment with their trolling. If the developer wanted to avoid us to use his code from other projects, he should think about the licenses used on their submissions. -- Mauricio Lima Pilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Update from User Relations wrt User Representatives.
Hello, On Sunday 03 December 2006 20:32, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: As of Friday 17th November, George Prowse, known to most as cokehabit, has left the Gentoo User Relations project and his position as User Representative. Regrettably, as things turned out, he did not fit the role as well as many had hoped, and it was decided that it would be in everyone's best interests to part ways. We would like to thank George for his time and work as a user representative, and wish him luck in his future endeavours. On a related note, it was resolved at a meeting between User Relations and the User Representatives on December 2nd, 2006 to instate Alex Bokag aka djay-il as the eleventh and last User Representative. This motion passed unanimously and Alex accepted the position with immediate effect. We welcome Alex onboard and look forward to working closely with him over the next year. On behalf of User Relations, Christel Dahlskjaer. As I've stated in the forums [1], I don't think that picking somebody that was not elected for the chair is a good practice. If you have found that the way elections were conducted did not produce a good result, maybe you should at least change your project description [2]: Gentoo User Representatives (userreps) form part of Gentoo User Relations (userrel) and are elected each year by Gentoo users to represent them to the development community. Not that I have something against djay-il, it's just that I don't like the way this whole situation is being handled. Pilla [1] https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-520916-highlight-.html [2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/userrel/userreps/index.xml -- Mauricio Lima Pilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] PPGINF -- ESIN/UCPEL http://g3pd.ucpel.tche.br/~pilla I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept. -- Calvin -- Mauricio Lima Pilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] PPGINF -- ESIN/UCPEL http://g3pd.ucpel.tche.br/~pilla key 0x37705BE0 I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept. -- Calvin pgpCyt4yrQEte.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New forum moderators
Good to know I am new again, so I can mess up with everything and still have somebody to fix them for me :-D On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Wernfried Haas wrote: Welcome new guys :-) On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 01:23:42AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a couple long-time forums moderators that's joined Gentoo officially. First we have Christian Hartmann (ian!) that's rejoined after a brief hiatus. Christian joined a Gentoo in late 2003 and is now officially part of Gentoo. Mauricio Lima Pilla (pilla) is another long time forums moderator that's now joined Gentoo staff officially. Mauricio's been a forums moderator since late 2002. Please welcome Christian and Mauricio. Regards, Bryan Østergaard -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne at gentoo dot org Gentoo Forums: http://forums.gentoo.org IRC: #gentoo-forums on freenode - email: forum-mods at gentoo dot org -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Abuse by gentoo developer
vpopmail ls -l /var/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] net-mail/vpopmail-5.4.6-r1 +clearpasswd -ipalias -mysql -postgres 0 kB [1] [...] net-mail/vpopmail-5.4.6-r1 merged. [...] -rwx--x--x 1 root root 85036 Jul 19 23:53 /var/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw* So stop telling me my info is useless, when it's obviously not. This is not how we can handle this the user should have already read up on how to setup vpopmail before ever installing it, which means they would already know that SUID is required. As SUID is required for qmail-smtpd, vchkpw should indeed be installed SUID by default unless overridden by using suidctl. This is NOT the case now. --- I then received this lovely mail from Jory: --- You want to curse me and tell me you think your gonna go playing in my vpopmail ebuild you can take your bullshit upstream I am black listing you on my filters so I do not need to read your bullshit you do not understand the full picture if you did you would know vpopmail works with more then just qmail you dumb ass. So have a nice Day chow!! --- Umm look I'm just trying to help here, and I really feel like I've been treated very unfairly by this developer. I'm working hard to try to make vpopmail AND gentoo better products, I'd really appreciate not being told on things I know very well that I'm right about, and getting severe reactions like this when I prove that my statements were indeed correct and that I'm only trying to help. I really feel that this response whas wholly unjustified, and that I did nothing to warrant it. Please advise. Cheers, -- Casey Allen Shobe | http://casey.shobe.info [EMAIL PROTECTED] | cell 425-443-4653 AIM Yahoo: SomeLinuxGuy | ICQ: 1494523 SeattleServer.com, Inc. | http://www.seattleserver.com -- Mauricio Lima Pilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] ESIN/UCPEL http://g3pd.ucpel.tche.br/~pilla I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept. -- Calvin -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list