Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New global USE flag: keyring

2008-04-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:06:07 +0200
Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd say we should convert it to a global use flag now with a good
> description and change it to gnome-keyring later in case we really
> have a package which needs 'keyring' for something else.

Needless to say it would save quite a few users from needlessly
rebuilding a few packages. That's green thinking. :)


 JeR
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New global USE flag: keyring

2008-04-20 Thread Mike Auty

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Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
| If we know there may be a future problem, why make the next *VALID*
| addition perform extra work?

I think the reasoning is that whilst there may be a future problem,
there currently isn't.  If it gets changed to gnome-keyring, it will
definitely requires all the users of the keyring USE flag to change it.
~ We could save them that hassle until there is actually a conflict?
It's just a design decision, either we do, or we don't, but I don't
think it's too big a deal.  Depends if we want to be strictly correct,
or delay a small headache for our users?

Mike  5:)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New global USE flag: keyring

2008-04-20 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Peter Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 18:06 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote:
>  >
>  > I'd say we should convert it to a global use flag now with a good
>  > description and change it to gnome-keyring later in case we really have a
>  > package which needs 'keyring' for something else.
>  I agree with what dev-zero just wrote there.
>

That's unlikely to happen. When a program needs 'keyring' for
something else, the maintainer will see that 'keyring' is used for
'gnome-keyring' and will choose another name ('foo-keyring').

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New global USE flag: keyring

2008-04-20 Thread Peter Weller
On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 18:06 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote:
> Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> 
> > 2008/4/20 Peter Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 18:32 +0300, Ali Polatel wrote:
> >> > Alon Bar-Lev yazm??:
> >> > > I suggest gnome-something as it is gnome feature.
> >> >
> >> > How about gnome-keyring? :)
> >> >
> >>
> >> Why? All the ebuilds currently using the 'keyring' use flag are using it
> >> for gnome-keyring. As long as there is a proper description of the USE
> >> flag, there should be no confusion caused.
> > 
> > Because it may be confusing.
> True.
"Proper description of the USE flag"

> > As long as it is local flag for gnome packages, the gnome is implicit.
> > If you want it to be global, gnome should be explicit.
> Only in case there are other packages which use a 'keyring' use flag which
> means something else than support for gnome-keyring.
> 
> I'd say we should convert it to a global use flag now with a good
> description and change it to gnome-keyring later in case we really have a
> package which needs 'keyring' for something else.
I agree with what dev-zero just wrote there.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New global USE flag: keyring

2008-04-20 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd say we should convert it to a global use flag now with a good
> description and change it to gnome-keyring later in case we really have a
> package which needs 'keyring' for something else.

If we know there may be a future problem, why make the next *VALID*
addition perform extra work? This is gnome specific feature, should
have gnome explicit mark.
If we have keyring in KDE, or keyring in kernel or any other "generic"
keyring. The extra work should be done now, so we have less conflict
in future.

Alon
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New global USE flag: keyring

2008-04-20 Thread Tiziano Müller
Alon Bar-Lev wrote:

> 2008/4/20 Peter Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 18:32 +0300, Ali Polatel wrote:
>> > Alon Bar-Lev yazm??:
>> > > I suggest gnome-something as it is gnome feature.
>> >
>> > How about gnome-keyring? :)
>> >
>>
>> Why? All the ebuilds currently using the 'keyring' use flag are using it
>> for gnome-keyring. As long as there is a proper description of the USE
>> flag, there should be no confusion caused.
> 
> Because it may be confusing.
True.

> As long as it is local flag for gnome packages, the gnome is implicit.
> If you want it to be global, gnome should be explicit.
Only in case there are other packages which use a 'keyring' use flag which
means something else than support for gnome-keyring.

I'd say we should convert it to a global use flag now with a good
description and change it to gnome-keyring later in case we really have a
package which needs 'keyring' for something else.


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