Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why
Alin Nastac wrote: Philip Webb wrote: It is debatable whether users whose systems are already working properly should be expected to read sections of the Handbook merely in order to accommodate a newly-introduced form of configuration or whether some brief note in the emerge output or in GWN would be a better way of alerting them to such changes, but we all have other things to do today I won't take it further. Well, I could bail out in pkg_setup if /etc/init.d/rp-pppoe script still exist. However, these kind of discussions shouldn't be here, but in bugzie. Btw, the change was made 9+ months ago: ... 21 Jun 2005; Alin Nastac [EMAIL PROTECTED] -files/rp-pppoe.rc, rp-pppoe-3.5-r11.ebuild: Remove the rp-pppoe init script. The new way of using rp-pppoe is through adsl net module of the baselayout-1.11.12-r4. ... And that change was duly noted and acted upon by almost everyone. We had several threads in the forums plus the einfo warnings. Most people made the transition without any problems. Good work on the adsl mrness, it works so much better than rp-pppoe now, thanks! --curtis119 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why
Curtis Napier wrote: And that change was duly noted and acted upon by almost everyone. We had several threads in the forums plus the einfo warnings. Most people made the transition without any problems. Good work on the adsl mrness, it works so much better than rp-pppoe now, thanks! Thank you for your kind words, but I didn't contribute anything to the adsl baselayout module (or if I did, I don't remember). ;-) I am the main contributor to the ppp module available in baselayout-1.12*, which support any kind of PPP link known to mankind. I strongly believe this module support for PPPoE is better than rp-pppoe from the Gentoo point of view, but unfortunately baselayout-1.12 isn't stable yet. :-( signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why
Sven Köhler wrote: I don't when the init.d-script disappeared from the ebuilds, but well: i still used it and didn't know about the baselayout-support for pppoe. May I suggest reading the fine handbook? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=3#doc_chap4 -- jakub signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why
On Friday 31 March 2006 18:15, Sven Köhler wrote: I don't when the init.d-script disappeared from the ebuilds, but well: i still used it and didn't know about the baselayout-support for pppoe. May I suggest reading the fine handbook? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=3#doc_ chap4 RTFM - that's always a good hint - but how often and when do i have to RTFM? if some had their way, you'd RTFM everytime you had a question ... but really that's not realistic by any stretch -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why
060331 Jakub Moc wrote:
Sven Köhler wrote:
I don't when the init.d-script disappeared from the ebuilds:
i still used it and didn't know about the baselayout-support for pppoe.
May I suggest reading the fine handbook?
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=3#doc_chap4
Yes, it's beautiful,
but it doesn't tell you in which file to enter the lines :
config_eth0=( adsl )
adsl_user_eth0=username
Where do you put them ? And yes, I have had a look in /etc/ppp
all I can see is pppoe.conf , which doesn't look like that.
I handled the change by editing /etc/init.d/rp-pppoe , which now says :
depend() {
use net
before ntpd
after domainname
}
start() {
ebegin Starting pppoe (adsl)
start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/pppoe-start
eend $?
}
stop() {
ebegin Stopping pppoe (adsl)
start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/pppoe-stop
eend $?
}
and my machine connects to the Internet correctly at every boot.
Really, this change has not been adequately documented or publicised:
that does happen sometimes, but when it does, it needs attention.
Thanks as always to the devs for their volunteer work.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why
On Friday 31 March 2006 20:56, Philip Webb wrote: 060331 Jakub Moc wrote: Sven Köhler wrote: I don't when the init.d-script disappeared from the ebuilds: i still used it and didn't know about the baselayout-support for pppoe. May I suggest reading the fine handbook? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=3#doc_ chap4 Yes, it's beautiful, but it doesn't tell you in which file to enter the lines : config_eth0=( adsl ) adsl_user_eth0=username if you think about it logically, /etc/conf.d/net is the only place it fits -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why
May I suggest reading the fine handbook? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=3#doc_chap4 Yes, it's beautiful, but it doesn't tell you in which file to enter the lines : config_eth0=( adsl ) adsl_user_eth0=username Where do you put them ? And yes, I have had a look in /etc/ppp all I can see is pppoe.conf , which doesn't look like that. Well, that's obvious, at least to me: /etc/conf.d/net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why
On Saturday 01 April 2006 02:56, Philip Webb wrote: 060331 Jakub Moc wrote: Sven Köhler wrote: I don't when the init.d-script disappeared from the ebuilds: i still used it and didn't know about the baselayout-support for pppoe. May I suggest reading the fine handbook? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=3#doc_ chap4 Yes, it's beautiful, but it doesn't tell you in which file to enter the lines : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=1#doc_chap1 Same bat handbook, but bat chapter 1 This sample paragraph stands out Gentoo's RC system now knows about that interface. It also needs to know how to configure the new interface. All the network interfaces are configured in /etc/conf.d/net So yes it does. Also, /etc/conf.d/net.example is a dead giveaway for maybe /etc/conf.d/net? Nah, too obvious. Thanks Roy -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why
060401 Roy Marples wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=1#doc_chap1 -- useful advice snipped -- Thanks for the pointers: I will look into configuring ADSL that way. It is debatable whether users whose systems are already working properly should be expected to read sections of the Handbook merely in order to accommodate a newly-introduced form of configuration or whether some brief note in the emerge output or in GWN would be a better way of alerting them to such changes, but we all have other things to do today I won't take it further. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
