[gentoo-dev] Council Meeting logs 20060309

2006-03-16 Thread Seemant Kulleen

Dear All,

I've attached the council meeting logs thanks to my proxy dsd.  I have
updated the council project page to add them there and to add a summary
of the events.  I suppose when that thar www refreshes itself on the
internets, the new content will show up.

Meanwhile...enjoy :)

Thanks,

Seemant
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18:53  dsd_ which gleps are voted on tonight?
18:53  dsd_ 42 and 44?
18:55 @Koon tyhat's what I have
18:55 @Koon but I didn't read all gentoo-dev so I might have missed some vote 
requests
18:55 @Koon back in 10 minutes
18:57 @SwifT damned, 42 has been improved since I last read it
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19:02 @seemant hi all, dsd_ is my proxy
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19:05 @dsd_ abuse!
19:06  cshields greetings all!  I'll be standing in for solar
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19:06 @SwifT 'evening both of you
19:07 @cshields or morning..  ;)
19:07 @vapier dsd_: it's only abuse if you didnt like it
19:07 @Koon who wants to chair ? I may have to leave early so I prefer not to
19:08 @vapier i may have to jet, work has meetings on me today
19:08 @vapier but i think we only have the manifest2 glep today correct ?
19:08 @SwifT and news thingie
19:08 @vapier the news thing wasnt requested i thought
19:08 @Koon well it all depends if we consider we should vote on glep 42 too
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19:08 @SwifT if I can believe Koon and dsd
19:09 @dsd_ SwifT: dont listen to me
19:09 @vapier lets do GLEP 44 first :P
19:09 @Koon easy cake: yes
19:09 @SwifT 1
19:09 @vapier i think all our maybes and such were covered sufficiently on 
the list
19:09 @cshields solar votes yes
19:09 @Koon anyone covering up azarah's ass ?
19:09 @vapier any last questions ? (and if you have one i kill you for not 
asking it on the dev list)
19:10 @SwifT that's blackmail
19:10 @dsd_ i vote yes (on seemant's behalf)
19:10 @agriffis yes to 42
19:10 @vapier ok, i'll just poke you, i wont kill you :p
19:10 @Koon agriffis: current itam is 44
19:11 @vapier i'm for 42 as well
19:11 @agriffis I meant 44, sorry
19:11 @vapier adsflkajsdfl 44
19:11  * vapier blames agriffis
19:11 @Koon ok then we have a winner
19:12 @Koon up to GLEP 42, wit the traditional question: should we really 
vote on it given it's not been properly submitted
19:12 @SwifT oh well, no then
19:12 @Koon I propose that we emit an opinion and raise any question we may 
have, and pompously vote on it next month
19:13 @cshields solar touched on this in an email, but to me it seems to be 
missing an implementation plan.   If it is voted on (and approved) it may end 
up sitting for a while without any action.  We made a similar mistake with the 
webiste redesign vote long ago
19:13 @Koon cshields: unfortunately we cannot really enforce implementation 
plan
19:13 @vapier we can
19:13 @Koon it needs someone to pick it up
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19:13 @vapier we dont approve it w/out an implementation plan :P
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19:14 @cshields Koon: you don't need to -enforce- one..  but some kind of a 
plan would be nice  :)
19:14 @Koon then we can emit a favorable opinion on the content but require 
some implementation details to accept it
19:14 @cshields I could glep that we all get $100k/yr for doing gentoo, and 
it may sound good and have rationale behind it, but without a plan to implement 
it will probably never happen  :)
19:14 @Koon I vote yes on that one
19:14 @SwifT who knows
19:14 @vapier details that the portage team is cool with ... but from 
genone's e-mails, seems they wont have much trouble with it
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19:15 @vapier has infra weighed in on it ?
19:15 @Koon cshields ^
19:16 @cshields vapier: most of us are in favor of the concept (cause we get 
bit in 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council Meeting logs 20060309

2006-03-16 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:54:34 -0500 Seemant Kulleen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| I've attached the council meeting logs thanks to my proxy dsd.  I have
| updated the council project page to add them there and to add a
| summary of the events.  I suppose when that thar www refreshes itself
| on the internets, the new content will show up.

So, uh, was 42 approved or not then? I was under the impression that
the final draft was too late to make the March deadline...

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Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Wearer of the shiny hat)
Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Council Meeting logs 20060309

2006-03-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 16 March 2006 11:12, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:54:34 -0500 Seemant Kulleen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
 | I've attached the council meeting logs thanks to my proxy dsd.  I have
 | updated the council project page to add them there and to add a
 | summary of the events.  I suppose when that thar www refreshes itself
 | on the internets, the new content will show up.

 So, uh, was 42 approved or not then? 

no, it was not, as it wasnt voted on, we just chatted about it ... here's a 
tidbit:

19:17 @agriffis anyway, it should be enough for now to say that we're in 
favor but where is the implementation plan, who is going to do the work, etc?
-mike
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