Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-08 Thread Marco Matthies

Alin Nastac wrote:

I find "active devs" metric a useful one.Until a year ago, the number of
active devs was linearly rising, but in last year we seem to hit a ceil
(175) - either recruiter team is understaffed or our organization
reached the maximum number of individuals who can work together without
stepping (too much) on each other toes. Anyway, a thing is certain...
Gentoo didn't loosed dev's attention.


Was it on planet.g.o where i read something about Dunbar's number[1]? A 
highly interesting subject and it might be possible that the 
"Monkeyspheres" of Gentoo devs do not overlap sufficiently.


There is only one solution to this problem: You need to go out and get 
drunk together! ;)


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-07 Thread Alin Nastac
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
> It may be a better metric to look at the bugzilla stats. How has the
> number of bugs being filed changed? What ratio of filed bugs are
> resolved, vs the ones that are left open? bugs.gentoo.org has some
> facilities for graphing stats back to December 2005...
Bugzilla cannot plot ratios.

I find "active devs" metric a useful one.Until a year ago, the number of
active devs was linearly rising, but in last year we seem to hit a ceil
(175) - either recruiter team is understaffed or our organization
reached the maximum number of individuals who can work together without
stepping (too much) on each other toes. Anyway, a thing is certain...
Gentoo didn't loosed dev's attention.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-07 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 20:53:12 +0100
"Chris Bainbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 07/07/06, Alin Nastac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > I am aware those characteristics are quantitative and don't say
>  > anything
> > about the quality of the distribution. However, judging after those
> > graphs, even the worst basher will recognize that we are far from
> > being dead.
> 
> It may be a better metric to look at the bugzilla stats. How has the
> number of bugs being filed changed? What ratio of filed bugs are
> resolved, vs the ones that are left open? bugs.gentoo.org has some
> facilities for graphing stats back to December 2005...

There's information on this in the GWN.  However I'm not sure it's
accurate; over the last two months, new bugs filed has consistently
been double the number of bugs closed or resolved; typically some
700-800 new bugs a week and 300-400 closed/resolved a week - however the
total number of open bugs over the same period has increased by just
372 bugs from 9947 to 10319 (total new + reopened - closed = 3791).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-07 Thread Chris Bainbridge

On 07/07/06, Alin Nastac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am aware those characteristics are quantitative and don't say anything

about the quality of the distribution. However, judging after those
graphs, even the worst basher will recognize that we are far from being
dead.


It may be a better metric to look at the bugzilla stats. How has the
number of bugs being filed changed? What ratio of filed bugs are
resolved, vs the ones that are left open? bugs.gentoo.org has some
facilities for graphing stats back to December 2005...
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-07 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 19:49 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:34:49 +0300 Alin Nastac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | I am aware those characteristics are quantitative and don't say
> | anything about the quality of the distribution.
> 
> They're also somewhat skewed, given all the modular ebuilds people are
> making of late...

Gnome ( + a few dependencies) == 150
KDE == 15
KDE (modular) == 289 ( + 10 for kdebindings-meta and dependencies)
X.Org (7.0) == 190

Now, gnome's always been a bit big, but KDE went from 15 to 300, and
X.Org went from one to 190.

By the way, all these numbers are from the input files I used for my
"keyword" script when marking these on x86.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:34:49 +0300 Alin Nastac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| I am aware those characteristics are quantitative and don't say
| anything about the quality of the distribution.

They're also somewhat skewed, given all the modular ebuilds people are
making of late...

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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-07 Thread Alin Nastac
Every now and then someone get sick of Gentoo and suddenly became
prophet, preaching that the end of the distro is near.
I wanted to see how much should we worry about it so I've made a perl
script to find the history of the following characteristics:
 - no. of active developers (active dev := did at least a commit in that
month)
 - no. of commits / month
The data and the perl script used to obtain it are available at 
http://dev.gentoo.org/~mrness/gentoo-activity-2006-06/ .

I am aware those characteristics are quantitative and don't say anything
about the quality of the distribution. However, judging after those
graphs, even the worst basher will recognize that we are far from being
dead.



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