Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 11:09:16PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Petteri R??tybetelge...@gentoo.org wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz. Ebuild quiz: 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree? Looking back, my answer to that question was insufficient, so the answer needs to be fixed ;) 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree? Do you need to do something in profiles/ after removing? If yes, what would it be? -Samuli In general, the quiz is supposed to test and educate recruits about Gentoo development practices. But if all parts of a question are asked in questions like that(where it's obvious that 'no' isn't a valid answer) it's just going to result in more googling rather than thinking hard and having knowledge about how and why it's done. I think the original wording is fine because the recruit will have to think hard about what else is needed and consult documentation without knowing exactly what he is looking for. If needed the mentor can help out with points like that, but if at all possible it should be initially answered by the recruit. So please, let's not make the quiz into a set of yes/no questions(an exaggeration I know, but still the same effect). Regards, Thomas -- - Thomas Anderson Gentoo Developer / Areas of responsibility: AMD64, Secretary to the Gentoo Council - pgpWVSjMmFZcn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy
Thomas Anderson wrote: In general, the quiz is supposed to test and educate recruits about Gentoo development practices. But if all parts of a question are asked in questions like that(where it's obvious that 'no' isn't a valid answer) it's just going to result in more googling rather than thinking hard and having knowledge about how and why it's done. I think the original wording is fine because the recruit will have to think hard about what else is needed and consult documentation without knowing exactly what he is looking for. If needed the mentor can help out with points like that, but if at all possible it should be initially answered by the recruit. So please, let's not make the quiz into a set of yes/no questions(an exaggeration I know, but still the same effect). While I agree with the sentiment, I think the original wording is too far away from the expected answer. How about: What placed should be cleaned, when removing an ebuild from the tree? Regards, Thomas signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org said: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Petteri Rätybetelge...@gentoo.org wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz. Ebuild quiz: 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree? Looking back, my answer to that question was insufficient, so the answer needs to be fixed ;) 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree? Do you need to do something in profiles/ after removing? If yes, what would it be? and where is the answer documented? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164130 -Samuli
Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Samuli Suominenssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I've just closed http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105016. But bugs like these shouldn't be around in the first place. When you remove a package from tree, please grep the profiles/ directory for matching entries and remove them too. This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz. -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan GNOME Team, Gentoo
Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Samuli Suominenssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I've just closed http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105016. But bugs like these shouldn't be around in the first place. When you remove a package from tree, please grep the profiles/ directory for matching entries and remove them too. This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz. Ebuild quiz: 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree? Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Petteri Rätybetelge...@gentoo.org wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz. Ebuild quiz: 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree? Looking back, my answer to that question was insufficient, so the answer needs to be fixed ;) -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan GNOME Team, Gentoo
Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Petteri Rätybetelge...@gentoo.org wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz. Ebuild quiz: 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree? Looking back, my answer to that question was insufficient, so the answer needs to be fixed ;) 19. What is the procedure for removing packages from the tree? Do you need to do something in profiles/ after removing? If yes, what would it be? -Samuli
[gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy
I've just closed http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105016. But bugs like these shouldn't be around in the first place. When you remove a package from tree, please grep the profiles/ directory for matching entries and remove them too. Anyhow, package.mask's and package.use.mask's should all be cleaned now, unless I missed something ofc. Thanks to idl0r for this scripts! Main package.mask has still some ancient cruft left that aren't so obvious why they are masked to everyone, except the person who masked them in the first place and unfortunately not all of them are around anymore.. :-/ If you have some.. please audit it. Thanks, Samuli
Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy
Samuli Suominen wrote: I've just closed http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105016. But bugs like these shouldn't be around in the first place. When you remove a package from tree, please grep the profiles/ directory for matching entries and remove them too. Anyhow, package.mask's and package.use.mask's should all be cleaned now, unless I missed something ofc. Thanks to idl0r for this scripts! Main package.mask has still some ancient cruft left that aren't so obvious why they are masked to everyone, except the person who masked them in the first place and unfortunately not all of them are around anymore.. :-/ If you have some.. please audit it. Thanks, Samuli Thank you for doing that. What.. 1000 lines removed from profiles/ ?? :) -Jeremy