Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/gkrellm & plugins
On 1/27/23 11:21, Michał Górny wrote: On Fri, 2023-01-27 at 10:51 -0800, A Schenck wrote: On 1/27/23 09:36, Michał Górny wrote: # Michał Górny (2023-01-27) # GKrellM and a variety of plugins. It's unmaintained for some time. # Upstream homepage is gone, and the whole suite is collecting dust # and patches. # Removal on 2023-02-26. Bug #892251. [also eclass/gkrellm-plugin.eclass] app-admin/gkrellm x11-plugins/gkrelltop The old homepage listed in the ebuild is gone but has moved[0]. The live ebuild has the correct upstream repository so it seems like just an oversight to not update the homepage whenever that was changed. Thanks. Unfortunately, it only confirms what I've suspected: it's not maintained and nobody's working on a GTK+3 port [1]. [1] https://git.srcbox.net/gkrellm/gkrellm/issues/1 Gkrellm is built similarly to the GIMP where it draws it's chrome directly with GDK to be thin and lightweight without window manager decorations makes it more useful to leave always on the side of the screen. GTK+3 has gotten rid of GDK entirely and the porting docs say "use cairo for drawing" and "the transition is usually straightforward" which is not super helpful :-( Adding `DGTK_DISABLE_SINGLE_INCLUDES` and `DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED` were reasonably straightforward but `DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED` is proving challenging. At the moment all these changes are local because it doesn't seem possible to subscribe to the mailing list or create an account from the gitea interface for upstream. Will probly post the patches to gentoo bugzilla just to get them on some external storage pending getting them upstream. Thanks, -A -- Attached is my PGP public key. Primary key fingerprint: C334 A85F 5B84 0061 2DF9 7310 6E37 4F22 EB0C 3D3A If you have a PGP key (and a minute to spare) please send it in reply to this email. If you have no idea what PGP is, feel free to ignore all this gobbledegook. OpenPGP_0x6E374F22EB0C3D3A.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/gkrellm & plugins
On Fri, 2023-01-27 at 21:15 +0100, Michal Prívozník wrote: > But are you saying that if there was a GTK-3 support, then gkrellm could > stay? Most importantly, it needs someone to take care of it. An active Gentoo maintainer for these packages (or the subset that's going to stay), that actually answers bug reports etc. is an absolute must. GTK+3 port would be nice — it would at least prove that people really care enough to do the hard work, and that we won't be removing it soon enough again because of GTK+2 being removed (not likely anytime soon but…) or because the code no longer compiles, or… -- Best regards, Michał Górny
Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/gkrellm & plugins
> On 27 Jan 2023, at 20:15, Michal Prívozník wrote: > > On 1/27/23 20:21, Michał Górny wrote: >> On Fri, 2023-01-27 at 10:51 -0800, A Schenck wrote: >>> On 1/27/23 09:36, Michał Górny wrote: # Michał Górny (2023-01-27) # GKrellM and a variety of plugins. It's unmaintained for some time. # Upstream homepage is gone, and the whole suite is collecting dust # and patches. # Removal on 2023-02-26. Bug #892251. [also eclass/gkrellm-plugin.eclass] app-admin/gkrellm x11-plugins/gkrelltop >>> >>> The old homepage listed in the ebuild is gone but has moved[0]. >>> >>> The live ebuild has the correct upstream repository so it seems like >>> >>> just an oversight to not update the homepage whenever that was >>> >>> changed. >> >> Thanks. Unfortunately, it only confirms what I've suspected: it's not >> maintained and nobody's working on a GTK+3 port [1]. >> >> [1] https://git.srcbox.net/gkrellm/gkrellm/issues/1 >> > > Yes, sadly, Bill passed away more than a year ago: > > https://mailproc.sbbsnet.net/list/gkre...@lists.netservicesgroup.com?cmd=user_listview_msg=40=gkrellm_idx=28 > > But are you saying that if there was a GTK-3 support, then gkrellm could > stay? > Yes. And ideally a maintainer in Gentoo. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/gkrellm & plugins
On 1/27/23 20:21, Michał Górny wrote: > On Fri, 2023-01-27 at 10:51 -0800, A Schenck wrote: >> On 1/27/23 09:36, Michał Górny wrote: >>> # Michał Górny (2023-01-27) >>> # GKrellM and a variety of plugins. It's unmaintained for some >>> time. >>> # Upstream homepage is gone, and the whole suite is collecting dust >>> # and patches. >>> # Removal on 2023-02-26. Bug #892251. >>> >>> [also eclass/gkrellm-plugin.eclass] >>> >>> app-admin/gkrellm >>> x11-plugins/gkrelltop >> >> The old homepage listed in the ebuild is gone but has moved[0]. >> >> The live ebuild has the correct upstream repository so it seems like >> >> just an oversight to not update the homepage whenever that was >> >> changed. > > Thanks. Unfortunately, it only confirms what I've suspected: it's not > maintained and nobody's working on a GTK+3 port [1]. > > [1] https://git.srcbox.net/gkrellm/gkrellm/issues/1 > Yes, sadly, Bill passed away more than a year ago: https://mailproc.sbbsnet.net/list/gkre...@lists.netservicesgroup.com?cmd=user_listview_msg=40=gkrellm_idx=28 But are you saying that if there was a GTK-3 support, then gkrellm could stay? Michal
Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/gkrellm & plugins
On Fri, 2023-01-27 at 10:51 -0800, A Schenck wrote: > On 1/27/23 09:36, Michał Górny wrote: > > # Michał Górny (2023-01-27) > > # GKrellM and a variety of plugins. It's unmaintained for some > > time. > > # Upstream homepage is gone, and the whole suite is collecting dust > > # and patches. > > # Removal on 2023-02-26. Bug #892251. > > > > [also eclass/gkrellm-plugin.eclass] > > > > app-admin/gkrellm > > x11-plugins/gkrelltop > > The old homepage listed in the ebuild is gone but has moved[0]. > > The live ebuild has the correct upstream repository so it seems like > > just an oversight to not update the homepage whenever that was > > changed. Thanks. Unfortunately, it only confirms what I've suspected: it's not maintained and nobody's working on a GTK+3 port [1]. [1] https://git.srcbox.net/gkrellm/gkrellm/issues/1 -- Best regards, Michał Górny
Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/gkrellm & plugins
On 1/27/23 09:36, Michał Górny wrote: # Michał Górny (2023-01-27) # GKrellM and a variety of plugins. It's unmaintained for some time. # Upstream homepage is gone, and the whole suite is collecting dust # and patches. # Removal on 2023-02-26. Bug #892251. [also eclass/gkrellm-plugin.eclass] app-admin/gkrellm x11-plugins/gkrelltop The old homepage listed in the ebuild is gone but has moved[0]. The live ebuild has the correct upstream repository so it seems like just an oversight to not update the homepage whenever that was changed. Bugzilla is crashing when navigating around the bug list but except for the recent CLANG-STRICTER-SYSTEM[1] report the issues[2] are mostly ancient and / or specific to plugins. It was sad losing gkrellm-cpufreq ages ago but cleaning up broken rarely used plugins would be much preferable to "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" if that idiom translates. . . The patches[3] currently in tree are just a default config and some opinions about font and max width. Every non-handheld device we use has gkrellm, two on the personal laptop because one is connected to gkrellmd running on the home server. On the work Mac laptop (though the X implementation there is somewhat broken). On the previous Windows work laptop. The various alternatives all seem much heavier like Plasma System Monitor which wants to take up most of the screen and show things in big pie graphs, or too light like the Mac things that put tiny-to-the- point-of-being-useless icons in the menu bar at the top of the screen. Will try to take a look at the CLANG-STRICTER bug if bugzilla starts working again but it might take a while to figure out the build system since gcc is still the default cc here. Thanks, -A [0] http://gkrellm.srcbox.net/ [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881957 [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=gkrellm_id=6713191 [3] https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/app-admin/gkrellm/files -- Attached is my PGP public key. Primary key fingerprint: C334 A85F 5B84 0061 2DF9 7310 6E37 4F22 EB0C 3D3A If you have a PGP key (and a minute to spare) please send it in reply to this email. If you have no idea what PGP is, feel free to ignore all this gobbledegook. OpenPGP_0x6E374F22EB0C3D3A.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/gkrellm & plugins
230127 Michał Górny wrote: > # GKrellM and a variety of plugins. It's unmaintained for some time. > # Upstream homepage is gone, and the whole suite is collecting dust > # and patches. > # Removal on 2023-02-26. Bug #892251. > acct-group/gkrellmd > acct-user/gkrellmd > app-admin/gkrellm > app-laptop/ibam > media-plugins/gkrellmpc > x11-plugins/bfm ... > x11-themes/gkrellm-themes Is there a recommended alternative ? I've got used to having it in the corner of a desktop & checking it regularly for various info for many years. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/gkrellm & plugins
# Michał Górny (2023-01-27) # GKrellM and a variety of plugins. It's unmaintained for some time. # Upstream homepage is gone, and the whole suite is collecting dust # and patches. # Removal on 2023-02-26. Bug #892251. [also eclass/gkrellm-plugin.eclass] acct-group/gkrellmd acct-user/gkrellmd app-admin/gkrellm app-laptop/ibam media-plugins/gkrellmpc x11-plugins/bfm x11-plugins/gkrellaclock x11-plugins/gkrellfire x11-plugins/gkrellkam x11-plugins/gkrellm-bgchanger x11-plugins/gkrellm-bluez x11-plugins/gkrellm-countdown x11-plugins/gkrellm-cpupower x11-plugins/gkrellm-imonc x11-plugins/gkrellmlaunch x11-plugins/gkrellm-leds x11-plugins/gkrellm-mailwatch x11-plugins/gkrellmoon x11-plugins/gkrellm-plugins x11-plugins/gkrellm-radio x11-plugins/gkrellmss x11-plugins/gkrellm-trayicons x11-plugins/gkrellm-vaiobright x11-plugins/gkrellm-volume x11-plugins/gkrellmwireless x11-plugins/gkrellm-xkb x11-plugins/gkrellshoot x11-plugins/gkrellstock x11-plugins/gkrellsun x11-plugins/gkrelltop x11-plugins/gkrellweather x11-plugins/gkwebmon x11-plugins/i8krellm x11-themes/gkrellm-themes -- Best regards, Michał Górny
