Re: [gentoo-dev] OT: user-developer/privileges in IRC
22.10.2013 07:19, Peter Stuge пишет: I should have included bugzilla among mailing lists+IRC, users can indeed also have elevated privileges on IRC, but never equal to developers. It is radical exclusion and I'm reminded of it every time the #gentoo-dev channel mode catches my eye, painfully so if there's a discussion I could perhaps contribute to. Most of the time it is easy enough to say something privately to a relevant developer, but that's still very different from actual participation. Yes, and i think that it was done for a reason. But nobody stops you from requesting temporarily voice on #gentoo-dev and when you contributions will be marked as significant - gentoo/contributor cloak, that will give you permanent voice in #gentoo-dev. You should understand that #gentoo-dev is channel for developer's communication primarily and it is not so restricted, as you think. For example, #gentoo-infra is totally restricted to developers only, other interested parties should be added to channel ACLs explicitly or should get invite there. -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] OT: user-developer/privileges in IRC
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:02:29 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: 22.10.2013 07:19, Peter Stuge пишет: I should have included bugzilla among mailing lists+IRC, users can indeed also have elevated privileges on IRC, but never equal to developers. It is radical exclusion and I'm reminded of it every time the #gentoo-dev channel mode catches my eye, painfully so if there's a discussion I could perhaps contribute to. Most of the time it is easy enough to say something privately to a relevant developer, but that's still very different from actual participation. Yes, and i think that it was done for a reason. Now I wonder if the +m on IRC was set proactively or reactively. If the former it could be worth a try to -m. But nobody stops you from requesting temporarily voice on #gentoo-dev and when you contributions will be marked as significant - gentoo/contributor cloak, that will give you permanent voice in #gentoo-dev. You should understand that #gentoo-dev is channel for developer's communication primarily and it is not so restricted, as you think. For example, #gentoo-infra is totally restricted to developers only, other interested parties should be added to channel ACLs explicitly or should get invite there. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] OT: user-developer/privileges in IRC
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:55 PM, yac y...@gentoo.org wrote: Now I wonder if the +m on IRC was set proactively or reactively. If the former it could be worth a try to -m. Yeah, I kind of feel it should be -m, as well. If need be, we can be more proactive about kickbanning people (ops enough, after all). Cheers, Dirkjan
Re: [gentoo-dev] OT: user-developer/privileges in IRC
Dirkjan Ochtman schrieb: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:55 PM, yac y...@gentoo.org wrote: Now I wonder if the +m on IRC was set proactively or reactively. If the former it could be worth a try to -m. Yeah, I kind of feel it should be -m, as well. If need be, we can be more proactive about kickbanning people (ops enough, after all). We had -m for a short period this year already. AFAIR users then came into the channel and asked support or ebuild development questions, so it was reverted to +m. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
