Re: [gentoo-dev] Old changelogs / eclass dir
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011, Andreas K Huettel wrote: > 1) Why is there no ChangeLog in the eclass directory? > In my personal opinion this is missing there, if only for historical > reasons... Should we still start one? It's never too late. Even echangelog works in the eclass directory, once you generate an initial ChangeLog file there. > 2) I'd like to suggest that for changelogs that grow beyond a > certain size (e.g. profiles/ChangeLog) the file is "rotated" similar > to /var/log logfiles. I.e. the current file is renamed with a date > extension and a new file is started. This has the benefit that the > archived file is static and will never be retransmitted by rsync. I'd rather truncate the file and keep only the last one or two years of history. Also some subdirectories of profiles have their own ChangeLog, and others don't. Looks pretty much random, e.g. why is there a ChangeLog in profiles/default/bsd but not in profiles/default/linux? Probably that's for historical reasons too, and we should rethink it. Ulrich
Re: [gentoo-dev] Old changelogs / eclass dir
> > As for codifying this, applying software to automate splitting > > changelogs in this manner could be initially challenging as I've seen > > a few Changelogs with really inconsistent style at the bottom of them. > > How many really long changelogs do we have now? Maybe we should just > split them by hand. Below is the list of changelogs with more than 5 bytes. Let's just say, if we apply the rule for files bigger than 100k, we can easily do it by hand and will still see an improvement- also because the biggest files are updated most often (naturally). Later, the new files will have a regular format and can be processed automatically anyway. 774821 profiles/ChangeLog 166798 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/ChangeLog 145004 sys-devel/gcc/ChangeLog 141505 sys-libs/glibc/ChangeLog 141397 media-video/mplayer/ChangeLog 133790 kde-base/kdelibs/ChangeLog 133257 www-client/firefox/ChangeLog 131385 x11-base/xorg-server/ChangeLog 130355 x11-base/xorg-x11/ChangeLog 124531 www-client/opera/ChangeLog 123722 sys-fs/udev/ChangeLog 115914 www-servers/apache/ChangeLog 112672 dev-db/mysql/ChangeLog 110957 media-video/vlc/ChangeLog 107961 sys-apps/baselayout/ChangeLog 107492 sys-kernel/git-sources/ChangeLog 105182 sys-kernel/hardened-sources/ChangeLog 104646 www-client/chromium/ChangeLog 100383 sys-kernel/vanilla-sources/ChangeLog 98137 dev-lang/python/ChangeLog 89614 net-misc/asterisk/ChangeLog 87568 dev-lang/php/ChangeLog 83915 profiles/prefix/ChangeLog 82583 net-fs/samba/ChangeLog 82558 dev-vcs/git/ChangeLog 81787 x11-libs/gtk+/ChangeLog 81691 dev-vcs/subversion/ChangeLog 79141 mail-client/evolution/ChangeLog 78127 dev-lang/ruby/ChangeLog 77357 app-emulation/wine/ChangeLog 75159 media-libs/xine-lib/ChangeLog 72634 dev-lang/perl/ChangeLog 72187 x11-drivers/ati-drivers/ChangeLog 72158 sys-devel/binutils/ChangeLog 70403 media-sound/amarok/ChangeLog 70003 mail-mta/postfix/ChangeLog 69801 net-proxy/squid/ChangeLog 68654 media-video/ffmpeg/ChangeLog 68183 sys-kernel/mm-sources/ChangeLog 67484 net-misc/openssh/ChangeLog 66380 media-gfx/imagemagick/ChangeLog 66175 media-tv/mythtv/ChangeLog 66055 www-servers/tomcat/ChangeLog 66045 mail-client/thunderbird/ChangeLog 66003 net-nds/openldap/ChangeLog 65668 net-print/cups/ChangeLog 65665 app-portage/gentoolkit/ChangeLog 65102 dev-libs/glib/ChangeLog 65073 x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers/ChangeLog 63758 app-crypt/gnupg/ChangeLog 62406 app-editors/emacs/ChangeLog 61747 dev-db/phpmyadmin/ChangeLog 61413 net-libs/xulrunner/ChangeLog 61141 dev-libs/openssl/ChangeLog 60826 media-libs/mesa/ChangeLog 60410 net-dns/bind/ChangeLog 60261 app-editors/emacs-vcs/ChangeLog 60117 gnome-extra/evolution-data-server/ChangeLog 59996 sys-apps/portage/ChangeLog 59966 app-antivirus/clamav/ChangeLog 57709 gnome-base/gnome/ChangeLog 57130 gnome-base/nautilus/ChangeLog 56294 dev-java/sun-jdk/ChangeLog 56243 net-news/liferea/ChangeLog 55883 www-servers/lighttpd/ChangeLog 55540 sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources/ChangeLog 54764 sys-kernel/mips-sources/ChangeLog 54436 sys-kernel/linux-headers/ChangeLog 54167 x11-wm/fluxbox/ChangeLog 54141 dev-db/sqlite/ChangeLog 54109 sys-apps/util-linux/ChangeLog 53644 www-client/epiphany/ChangeLog 53641 media-sound/alsa-driver/ChangeLog 53194 gnome-base/gnome-control-center/ChangeLog 52699 app-editors/vim/ChangeLog 52676 x11-libs/qt/ChangeLog 51030 app-editors/vim-core/ChangeLog 50058 sys-libs/db/ChangeLog 50042 www-client/firefox-bin/ChangeLog -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer - kde, sci, arm, tex dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Old changelogs / eclass dir
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:00:36 +1300 Kent Fredric wrote: > On 27 October 2011 06:46, Andreas K. Huettel > wrote: > > > > > 2) I'd like to suggest that for changelogs that grow beyond a > > certain size (e.g. profiles/ChangeLog) > > the file is "rotated" similar to /var/log logfiles. I.e. the > > current file is renamed with a date extension and a > > new file is started. This has the benefit that the archived file is > > static and will never be retransmitted > > by rsync. > > > > For rotation, an arbitrary line-length offset would not be advisable > in my opinion. It would need to split at a logical place like before > a "release" entry. > > As for codifying this, applying software to automate splitting > changelogs in this manner could be initially challenging as I've seen > a few Changelogs with really inconsistent style at the bottom of them. How many really long changelogs do we have now? Maybe we should just split them by hand. -- Best regards, Michał Górny signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Old changelogs / eclass dir
On 10/26/2011 08:46 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Dear all, > > two small suggestions regarding ChangeLogs: > > 1) Why is there no ChangeLog in the eclass directory? > In my personal opinion this is missing there, if only for historical > reasons... Should we still start one? > > 2) I'd like to suggest that for changelogs that grow beyond a certain size > (e.g. profiles/ChangeLog) > the file is "rotated" similar to /var/log logfiles. I.e. the current file is > renamed with a date extension and a > new file is started. This has the benefit that the archived file is static > and will never be retransmitted > by rsync. > > Opinions? > > Cheers, Andreas > I agree with both ideas. - Samuli
Re: [gentoo-dev] Old changelogs / eclass dir
El mié, 26-10-2011 a las 19:46 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: > Dear all, > > two small suggestions regarding ChangeLogs: > > 1) Why is there no ChangeLog in the eclass directory? > In my personal opinion this is missing there, if only for historical > reasons... Should we still start one? > > 2) I'd like to suggest that for changelogs that grow beyond a certain size > (e.g. profiles/ChangeLog) > the file is "rotated" similar to /var/log logfiles. I.e. the current file is > renamed with a date extension and a > new file is started. This has the benefit that the archived file is static > and will never be retransmitted > by rsync. > > Opinions? > > Cheers, Andreas > I agree with both :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Old changelogs / eclass dir
On 27 October 2011 06:46, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > 2) I'd like to suggest that for changelogs that grow beyond a certain size > (e.g. profiles/ChangeLog) > the file is "rotated" similar to /var/log logfiles. I.e. the current file > is renamed with a date extension and a > new file is started. This has the benefit that the archived file is static > and will never be retransmitted > by rsync. > For rotation, an arbitrary line-length offset would not be advisable in my opinion. It would need to split at a logical place like before a "release" entry. As for codifying this, applying software to automate splitting changelogs in this manner could be initially challenging as I've seen a few Changelogs with really inconsistent style at the bottom of them. -- Kent perl -e "print substr( \"edrgmaM SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3, 3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );" http://kent-fredric.fox.geek.nz
[gentoo-dev] Old changelogs / eclass dir
Dear all, two small suggestions regarding ChangeLogs: 1) Why is there no ChangeLog in the eclass directory? In my personal opinion this is missing there, if only for historical reasons... Should we still start one? 2) I'd like to suggest that for changelogs that grow beyond a certain size (e.g. profiles/ChangeLog) the file is "rotated" similar to /var/log logfiles. I.e. the current file is renamed with a date extension and a new file is started. This has the benefit that the archived file is static and will never be retransmitted by rsync. Opinions? Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer - kde, sci, arm, tex dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
