Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-10 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 12:58 +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
 Stupid question .. why does webapps.eclass have SLOT=${PVR} ? 

If you're running a hosting server, and have many customers using the
same app, it may not be practical to bump them all at the same time.

* They may have different busy periods during the day, making it
impossible to schedule a common downtime.  
* Many upgrades require manual steps - it's less disruptive to upgrade
each installation one at a time.
* Different customers may want or need to run different versions of the
same app.  If a customer is happy with what they have, they may not wish
to upgrade.

 This
 basically means that even a bump from foo-webapp-1.0-r1 to
 foo-webapp-1.0-r2 will not unmerge foo-webapp-1.0-r1 ...

If you don't have USE=vhosts set, then the eclass will automatically
unmerge the older version.  If you have USE=vhosts set, then you're
telling Portage that you need the flexibility of running webapp-config
manually.

Best regards,
Stu


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-10 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:57:44 +0100
Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It'd perhaps make sense to extend the DTD for metadata.xml, so that the
 maintainer tag has 'type' and 'organisation' attributes.  This would
 allow tools to tell the difference between an entry for a Gentoo
 maintainer, and an entry for an upstream maintainer.

Why modifying the DTD? We did something like this recently with
mail-filter/razor, in agreement with $upstream, and all that was needed was
the 'description' tag, which is already present in the DTD.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-08 Thread Aaron Walker
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Stuart Herbert wrote:

snip

 Thoughts, comments, other (constructive) feedback?
 
 Best regards,
 Stu

Sorry for my delayed response.. Just now getting caught up on my mail from the
last week.

I'm definitely in favor of something like this.  Btw, I agree with Mike and
Lance wrt to keeping upstream email contact in metadata.xml.  It'll be much
easier  for tools, etc, to be able to get that information.

Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-06 Thread Radoslaw Stachowiak
On 7/5/05, Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd like to introduce the following security policy for web-based apps.

Why only web-based apps? What about other tools and apps exposed to the network?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread Lance Albertson
Mike Frysinger wrote:
 On Tuesday 05 July 2005 04:21 pm, Stuart Herbert wrote:
 
1. The Gentoo package's maintainer will identify one *named* contact
   UPSTREAM for security-related matters, and one named general contact
   UPSTREAM (as a fallback for when the security contact is
   unreachable).
2. This information will be held on the Dev Wiki.
 
 
 wtf is the Dev Wiki ?  what's wrong with metadata.xml ?

Yeah, having it in metadata.xml would make more sense.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread Alec Warner
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Stuart Herbert wrote:
 Hi,
 
snip
 
 1. The Gentoo package's maintainer will identify one *named* contact
UPSTREAM for security-related matters, and one named general contact
UPSTREAM (as a fallback for when the security contact is
unreachable).
 2. This information will be held on the Dev Wiki.
 3. This information will be checked every three months to ensure it
remains valid.

Are you volunteering to do 3?  If not, who will?

 4. In situations where the UPSTREAM contacts are unreachable, and no
new contact can be identified, the package will be masked and
marked for removal from the Portage tree (ie it fails this policy)
 snip...
 Thoughts, comments, other (constructive) feedback?
 
 Best regards,
 Stu
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:21:35 +0100
Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'd like to introduce the following security policy for web-based
 apps. If there are no objections, every new web-based app will have
 to conform to the policy before it can be added to the tree.  Every
 existing web-based app will have to conform to the policy by the end
 of August, or I will remove it from the tree.

[snip]

Hmm, what's the criteria to decide if something falls under this policy
or not? Package category, maintainership, dependency on webserver, ...?

Marius

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