Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH 00/19] Add acct-group packages for udev-related groups

2019-07-28 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 2019-07-27 at 12:34 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 10:24 AM Mike Gilbert  wrote:
> > The systemd and udev ebuilds create three groups: input, kvm, and
> > render. These are used by udev rules to control access to hardware.
> > 
> > There are several other groups referenced by udev rules, so it makes
> > sense to explicitly depend on them as well.
> 
> Since the situation with baselayout is a bit unclear, I will probably
> start with just the input, kvm, and render groups initially.
> 
> Opinions and rationale on whether it makes sense to move users/groups
> out of baselayout long-term would be welcome.
> 

I think the best solution is to provide them both ways.  Baselayout to
provide early allocation on new systems, and acct-*/ to provide proper
upgrade path for new systems and dependencies in packages.  This will
become necessary at some point anyway since otherwise you won't be able
to add users to baselayout groups.

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Best regards,
Michał Górny



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[gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH 00/19] Add acct-group packages for udev-related groups

2019-07-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 10:24 AM Mike Gilbert  wrote:
>
> The systemd and udev ebuilds create three groups: input, kvm, and
> render. These are used by udev rules to control access to hardware.
>
> There are several other groups referenced by udev rules, so it makes
> sense to explicitly depend on them as well.

Since the situation with baselayout is a bit unclear, I will probably
start with just the input, kvm, and render groups initially.

Opinions and rationale on whether it makes sense to move users/groups
out of baselayout long-term would be welcome.