Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC
Robin H. Johnson posted on Mon, 07 Sep 2015 23:54:36 + as excerpted: > I've been travelling a lot the past month (Helsinki, LA, Seattle) > and it's on my list of stuff to do > along with finalize and announce the migrated git history. Others may have concerns, but I'm simply grateful for what Gentoo devs do, esp the demanding + critical work of migrating to Git. I envy your travels & hope you had time to appreciate Helsinki's trams, LA's LRT & Seattle's trolleybuses (smile). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > The above has me somewhat concerned. Any time an individual has to make > excuses for something as ultimately critical to an organization as > finishing up the loose ends on the git switchover is to gentoo, the words > "bus factor" loom large in my head. @Duncan M'lord, thou doth protest too much. Pretty sure rich0 already has a tentative gentoo-x86-history that can be grafted, I don't have the details to hand, but he posted it on -dev. Certainly I don't believe there is a single-point-of-failure here. @Robin - Ack on the air-mile gathering :) Didn't mean to harass you, just was seeking some positive acknowledgement that you'd seen the updated scripts.
[gentoo-dev] Re: Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC
malc posted on Tue, 08 Sep 2015 15:35:03 +0100 as excerpted: > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: >> >> The above has me somewhat concerned. Any time an individual has to >> make excuses for something as ultimately critical to an organization as >> finishing up the loose ends on the git switchover is to gentoo, the >> words "bus factor" loom large in my head. > > @Duncan M'lord, thou doth protest too much. Pretty sure rich0 already > has a tentative gentoo-x86-history that can be grafted, I don't have the > details to hand, but he posted it on -dev. Certainly I don't believe > there is a single-point-of-failure here. According to posts, the pre-git-history-graft is indeed more or less ready. So we got that, yes. I'm just perhaps a bit hyper-sensitized to what could be hints of burnout, is all. I know from experience, just knowing a human safety net is there is a big pressure relief on its own. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
[gentoo-dev] Re: Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC
Robin H. Johnson posted on Mon, 07 Sep 2015 23:54:36 + as excerpted: > I've been travelling a lot the past month (Helsinki, LA, Seattle), and > it's on my list of stuff to do (along with finalize and announce the > migrated git history). [grumble grumble, top posting, tho you just followed what you were replying to, but it still makes it all but impossible to quote proper context, so I only did one level deep] This is definitely not a personal complaint as I know you're doing what you can and will get to it in due time, and I'm immensely grateful that we have you working on it at all and that the git switch did actually happen even if it seemed to be an instance of DukeNukem:Forever, but... The above has me somewhat concerned. Any time an individual has to make excuses for something as ultimately critical to an organization as finishing up the loose ends on the git switchover is to gentoo, the words "bus factor" loom large in my head. Is it simply that while others can do it, you were the one who volunteered, as you could make at least enough time to get the basics squared away in a relatively immediate timeframe, and will do the rest later, but there's others who would have eventually (perhaps months, or even a year or two later) gotten to it were you to meet some misfortune, or is it really down to (singular) YOU, and there's reason to worry, not just because of that, but because of the inevitable overwork and burnout such a situation unfortunately tends to lead to? IOW, is there something the council or foundation needs to do proactively here to ease a pressure point before something blows and it's reactive, or are there human backups in place and tested/ready-if-needed just as surely as are the server backups? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
