[gentoo-dev] Re: QA bikeshed: killing USE=dedicated in favor of uniform USE=client+server
hasufell posted on Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:27:06 +0200 as excerpted: On 08/21/2015 02:04 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: Right now there isn't even a functional games team to leave alone, and this isn't just about games. Exactly. Start there, instead of having the council or QA impose games policies. It's not their job. Kinda hard to start by fixing the game team, with gentoo being a community-volunteer based project, and apparently no devs interested in volunteering for games lead. The council can ask for volunteers and they have, but as the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink, and if nobody's volunteering to drink the games-lead drink... Which of course has been pointed out numerous times... Without that games team, the slack has to be picked up somewhere, and ultimately it falls to the QA and tree-cleaners teams, which /are/ still active, do do it. And if they're going to do it, in the absence of a working games team despite asking for volunteers multiple times, it's reasonable to expect they'll remake it in their own image, to some degree, which is pretty much exactly what this thread is about. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman
[gentoo-dev] Re: QA bikeshed: killing USE=dedicated in favor of uniform USE=client+server
Alexander Berntsen berna...@gentoo.org wrote: - -1. The way dedicated is used in games ebuilds is a very established term that all gamers know and expect to behave in a specific way. This will mess with our users. How do you know what the users know and expect? When installing a game, I was regularly surprised by the meaning of this USE-flag and had to read its description several times to be sure that I understand what is going on. Remember that not only permanent gamers install games occassionally.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA bikeshed: killing USE=dedicated in favor of uniform USE=client+server
On 08/20/2015 11:19 PM, Martin Vaeth wrote: Alexander Berntsen berna...@gentoo.org wrote: - -1. The way dedicated is used in games ebuilds is a very established term that all gamers know and expect to behave in a specific way. This will mess with our users. How do you know what the users know and expect? When installing a game, I was regularly surprised by the meaning of this USE-flag and had to read its description several times to be sure that I understand what is going on. Remember that not only permanent gamers install games occassionally. It is used to set up a pure dedicated server, whatever that may mean for a particular package (not just -client). You don't want to figure out such details if you are setting this up on a real server. You want to set it and be good.
