[gentoo-dev] Re: Shutdown of berlios

2011-10-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò 
Il giorno sab, 29/10/2011 alle 11.39 +0200, Tomáš Chvátal ha scritto:
 app-text/unpaper/unpaper-0.3.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.gz

Removed unpaper-0.3 (I mirror a copy of the sources on my website, but I
expect 0.4 to make muuuch more sense, since I've taken it over).

 app-portage/conf-update/conf-update-1.0.1.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.bz2
 app-portage/eix/eix-0.22.11.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.xz
 app-portage/eix/eix-0.22.5.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.xz
 app-portage/eix/eix-0.23.1.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.xz
 app-portage/eix/eix-0.23.2.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.xz
 app-portage/etc-proposals/etc-proposals-1.4.3-r2.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.gz

And this is what makes me concerned about using external resources for
Gentoo-specific software... I suppose we should mirror these somewhere
on Gentoo infra, given that we're probably the only ones interested in
it. Volunteers?

For future reference: I'm striving to keep a local copy of any source
file that Portage referenced and that I could fetch (that means even
stuff that is mirror-restricted since I only fetch it and store it
locally, not redistribute it), at least for the time my tinderbox has
been running... so if you happen to stumble across this after Berlios
shut down and you need some source file that was there, feel free to get
in touch with me. Expect some latency though.

-- 
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
http://blog.flameeyes.eu/


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Shutdown of berlios

2011-10-31 Thread Alec Warner 
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò
flamee...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Il giorno sab, 29/10/2011 alle 11.39 +0200, Tomáš Chvátal ha scritto:
 app-text/unpaper/unpaper-0.3.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.gz

 Removed unpaper-0.3 (I mirror a copy of the sources on my website, but I
 expect 0.4 to make muuuch more sense, since I've taken it over).

 app-portage/conf-update/conf-update-1.0.1.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.bz2
 app-portage/eix/eix-0.22.11.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.xz
 app-portage/eix/eix-0.22.5.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.xz
 app-portage/eix/eix-0.23.1.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.xz
 app-portage/eix/eix-0.23.2.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.xz
 app-portage/etc-proposals/etc-proposals-1.4.3-r2.ebuild:SRC_URI=mirror://berlios/${PN}/${P}.tar.gz

 And this is what makes me concerned about using external resources for
 Gentoo-specific software... I suppose we should mirror these somewhere
 on Gentoo infra, given that we're probably the only ones interested in
 it. Volunteers?

We can't force people who write Gentoo specific software to host w/us
(that would be silly.) If upstream is dead then take a tarball and
clone it into a git repo; nothing is stopping you.


 For future reference: I'm striving to keep a local copy of any source
 file that Portage referenced and that I could fetch (that means even
 stuff that is mirror-restricted since I only fetch it and store it
 locally, not redistribute it), at least for the time my tinderbox has
 been running... so if you happen to stumble across this after Berlios
 shut down and you need some source file that was there, feel free to get
 in touch with me. Expect some latency though.

 --
 Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
 http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Shutdown of berlios

2011-10-31 Thread Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike) 
El 31/10/11 17:43, Alec Warner escribió:
 We can't force people who write Gentoo specific software to host w/us
 (that would be silly.) If upstream is dead then take a tarball and
 clone it into a git repo; nothing is stopping you.
We can, all you need is enough field agents to convince people to do so ;)

And before anybody asks: yes, this comment is a joke.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Shutdown of berlios

2011-10-31 Thread Rich Freeman 
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote:
 We can't force people who write Gentoo specific software to host w/us
 (that would be silly.) If upstream is dead then take a tarball and
 clone it into a git repo; nothing is stopping you.

While that should certainly happen if you want to continue with
development, if the concern is that we don't lose the tarballs for the
packages in the tree the easiest solution is for the maintainers to
grab a copy and stick it in their dev web space and point the SRC_URI
there.  Unless the project was already in git that is likely to be
easier than trying to re-create the same tarballs in some other repo
like github.

That is, assuming the current fashion is to host stuff like this in
dev web space.  It seems like that comes and goes, but in the absence
of anything better it probably will do and beats having the files just
vanish some day.

Rich

[gentoo-dev] Re: Shutdown of berlios

2011-10-31 Thread Duncan 
Tomáš Chvátal posted on Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:39:15 +0200 as excerpted:

 as you probably know berlios is going to be shut down at the end of the
 year so we should probably find/create alternative download locations
 for the packages in the main tree.

FWIW, the latest development is that BerliOS might not be shutting down
after all.  This just came in on my feed-reader today (watch the wrap):

Rescue in sight for BerliOS OSS repository

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Rescue-in-sight-for-BerliOS-OSS-repository-1369245.html

It seems a non-profit development association is being setup to take
things over, with FOKUS (the current hosts who were shutting it down)
offering to continue to provide bandwidth and the current dedicated
systems for the time being, altho they won't be dedicating new resources
to it so other hosting will be needed in the medium term.  (The current
issue and highest cost factor for FOKUS was staffing costs.  Volunteers
will apparently take over there.)

But of course it could still fall thru as the new organization is still
being setup and negotiations are still ongoing, so continuing on course
to make other arrangements is still prudent. But those with affected
packages may wish to track or to get involved with this, as well.

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Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master.  Richard Stallman

[gentoo-dev] Re: Shutdown of berlios

2011-10-29 Thread Duncan 
Kacper Kowalik posted on Sat, 29 Oct 2011 16:56:55 +0200 as excerpted:

 flamee...@gentoo.org
   app-text/unpaper

flameeyes blogged about this one.  IIRC it's dead upstream and he's 
forking it, so is already working on alternative hosting, etc, as a 
result.  (From the blog it sounded like the berlios shutdown kinda 
triggered his decision to finally fork it, too.)

I've seen no others mentioned on gentoo's planet-feed, at least not in 
connection with berlios.

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and if you use the program, he is your master.  Richard Stallman