[gentoo-dev] Re: renaming gentoo-oldnet
Ian Stakenvicius posted on Tue, 06 Aug 2013 10:47:05 -0400 as excerpted: Or alternatively, rc-net ? (google seems to reference 'rc' as 'remote control' as in race cars, airplanes, etc; but given /etc/rc.* and /etc/init* have been around forever and have always been called the rc system, i think we should be safe using it) Hmm... sounds like something the NSA could love if there's ever a remotely exploitable vuln. Remote-control-net indeed! =:^( Never-the less, it's still reasonable even if I like the net-rc idea better. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: renaming gentoo-oldnet
Probably not a big deal, but there is a “~/.netrc” file which holds usernames and password for various services (some FTP clients use it, maybe others). Chris https://github.com/kr/netrc https://metacpan.org/module/Net::Netrc ^ too much evidence of prior work And worse, Net::Netrc is part of the standard perl distribution, and has been so since 5.7.3 aka 11 years ago. -- Kent
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: renaming gentoo-oldnet
On 5 August 2013 17:33, Christopher Head ch...@chead.ca wrote: Probably not a big deal, but there is a “~/.netrc” file which holds usernames and password for various services (some FTP clients use it, maybe others). If you want a suggestion that imbues all the things we want to imbue, and isn't a recognised name already, I suggest opennetrc. Sure, its a bit of a mouthful, but a quick search only reveals people trying to open the netrc file, which is not really a namespace collision. And although it conveys the heritage of openrc, it doesn't bind itself to being dependent on openrc. -- Kent
[gentoo-dev] Re: renaming gentoo-oldnet
Michael Orlitzky posted on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:01:40 -0400 as excerpted: Since it was pulled out of openrc, the name netrc also suggests itself. I like it, if it's not taken elsewhere and will thus cause problems. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: renaming gentoo-oldnet
On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:15:35PM +, Duncan wrote: Michael Orlitzky posted on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:01:40 -0400 as excerpted: Since it was pulled out of openrc, the name netrc also suggests itself. I like it, if it's not taken elsewhere and will thus cause problems. Maybe, but then when it is ported to other init systems (someone was even talking about adding functionality so it would work under systemd) a name that ties it to OpenRc doesn't make sense. William signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: renaming gentoo-oldnet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2013 06:20 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:15:35PM +, Duncan wrote: Michael Orlitzky posted on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:01:40 -0400 as excerpted: Since it was pulled out of openrc, the name netrc also suggests itself. I like it, if it's not taken elsewhere and will thus cause problems. Maybe, but then when it is ported to other init systems (someone was even talking about adding functionality so it would work under systemd) a name that ties it to OpenRc doesn't make sense. It's not tied to openrc, any more than e.g. openvpn is tied to badvpn. That's what they are, network rc scripts. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJR/tYJAAoJEBxJck0inpOiVlMP/RCLt5lOHCoiHQ0k/0OZK0Vo NgHZCqUN/pfx52jCofrQNHBu/S0AP0pkgMa7H6CeWOxM75Qx9GUNyQwqnI8lzEdu mKdziH/frHUYV6ze+Ue417lxXkqxp3X472zAdbv1cPZslaik09NBxAJdeQOCs23Y 5VKYPoJvmpyQo144BchfZzpX/jpoAuVEE52j7474Wfe6RxPP8mXxiujWl/lk7ZOU k2vzhXNWKB2tt8NHREszEgdEMb3QUe3V1zy5csWCquNg63QP98S8SU0uu6hjqv9r /N7U/yf0VMvOM+BVoVO1VdTigGVDAwPNav7Tm2ztSlCWcpUdSna0Q1PMtpXkRpiQ YimlcVE60Z/e2uqLQ2wqlhX7veZKuvgR2idZ679mA/pVpqBRYMQ0xkQsVebZPlb1 8ug7MNgmcjJzdBb3hFp6L62abFqcQungK1k6WOjlIvxxR70VG/PeEluEgv/WU4/U m151Rz6s0MicalmwfE/sqzHpCIRumU03C9y3vX+goZnVpVt04gpQDfW4Q7yakFh+ s543EvQWgu5VpSOxDhYC394WwLBIqelNwvvr1E4mNNRDLsBJxbaDYLBsTRTUtdR1 H3L8XbBDr+PbglH+2R+N8A/hnnONEbfthniGmCyn02tl92WhkUClFt05S4iBP9nS //2jZfo8oF0GhsDmRP0X =vQmC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-dev] Re: renaming gentoo-oldnet
Michael Orlitzky posted on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:30:33 -0400 as excerpted: On 08/04/2013 06:20 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:15:35PM +, Duncan wrote: Michael Orlitzky posted on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:01:40 -0400 as excerpted: Since it was pulled out of openrc, the name netrc also suggests itself. I like it, if it's not taken elsewhere and will thus cause problems. Maybe, but then when it is ported to other init systems (someone was even talking about adding functionality so it would work under systemd) a name that ties it to OpenRc doesn't make sense. It's not tied to openrc, any more than e.g. openvpn is tied to badvpn. That's what they are, network rc scripts. Exactly. That's why I like it. netrc is generic enough to be used elsewhere, yet descriptive enough of what it actually does, that from my perspective anyway, it's perfect. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: renaming gentoo-oldnet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:20:32 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Exactly. That's why I like it. netrc is generic enough to be used elsewhere, yet descriptive enough of what it actually does, that from my perspective anyway, it's perfect. =:^) Probably not a big deal, but there is a “~/.netrc” file which holds usernames and password for various services (some FTP clients use it, maybe others). Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlH/OSYACgkQnfE3lq0v9IzItAEAh2t+7HZKTthl0im5aMtIp3AQ nDfQkCOetZMyXEqvRGAA/05+NalxmSIn5FkkNK5+MeVrMydToxFfctROFy8FeS4U =cPcz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
