Re: [gentoo-dev] Updated handbooks for autobuilds

2010-07-20 Thread Joshua Saddler
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:11:10 -0400
Richard Freeman  wrote:
> Is the process for creating these documented somewhere?  I did some 
> googling and couldn't really find any documentation on how our stages 
> and liveCDs are built in the first place.  There are some generic 
> catalyst docs, but no real docs on how to generate an "official" build - 
> that is one that would be identical (not necessarily bitwise) to what 
> you'd find on the mirrors if they were up to date.

I haven't been able to find a clear step-by-step guide, either. Maybe there's 
something else in our project space, but I only ever handled the docs side of 
Releng. Also check the list archives? Supposedly some of the catalyst 
development is happening on non-Gentoo sites, so maybe there's a 
bugtracker/wiki/ML upstream. Where's agaffney to answer these questions when ya 
need him . . .


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Updated handbooks for autobuilds

2010-07-20 Thread Richard Freeman

On 07/20/2010 04:34 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:

x86 and AMD64 have not had new stages or LiveCDs in months.
jmbsvicetto just started working on 'em, but we need LOTS of eyes and
fixers for our two biggest arches. Right now there's no one else.
Most of the breakages seem to come from toolchain and Python 3.x
build failures (because *someone* wanted it stable), but it needs
troubleshooting.


Is the process for creating these documented somewhere?  I did some 
googling and couldn't really find any documentation on how our stages 
and liveCDs are built in the first place.  There are some generic 
catalyst docs, but no real docs on how to generate an "official" build - 
that is one that would be identical (not necessarily bitwise) to what 
you'd find on the mirrors if they were up to date.


Rich



Re: [gentoo-dev] Updated handbooks for autobuilds

2010-07-20 Thread Joshua Saddler
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:42:13 -0700
Joshua Saddler  wrote:

> There. I did the x86 and amd64 handbooks (networked, anyway; who cares about
> networkless). They're now ready for the 10th anniversary. I'm pretty sure.
> 
> I also did the x86 quickinstall handbooks.

It's been several months, so it's time for a status update:

This week I finally completed the alpha, arm, hppa, ia64, and sparc handbooks. 
Still have to do PPC/PPC64. There are just a few open tracker bugs; once these 
are fixed, that will free up all the ebuild and non-doc bugs that depend on our 
handbook bugs.

While doing the handbooks, I discovered that some of our arches have been 
neglected, so this next part is a call for help with the weekly/monthly 
autobuilds.

* * *

What's up with the arches:

x86 and AMD64 have not had new stages or LiveCDs in months. jmbsvicetto just 
started working on 'em, but we need LOTS of eyes and fixers for our two biggest 
arches. Right now there's no one else. Most of the breakages seem to come from 
toolchain and Python 3.x build failures (because *someone* wanted it stable), 
but it needs troubleshooting.

HPPA could use some assistance in generating autobuilt LiveCDs: the most recent 
CDs are from the 2008.0 release. If you've got the hardware, please contact the 
HPPA team.

IA64 hasn't had new media in a month, but I understand that armin76 is workin' 
on it. If you've got Itanium hardware, contact the ia64 team.

PPC64 hasn't produced much in the way of stages or CDs since October 2009.
PPC32 and PPC64 (32-bit userland) has stages from May, but no CDs since 
10/2009. PowerPC is one of our bigger secondary platforms, right? We need folks 
with the hardware to diagnose the problems and come up with some build fixes, 
so that we can adjust the autobuild scripts.

Based on the number of releases, ARM, Sparc, and Alpha seem to be doing okay. 
More folks willing to watch for build failures and help out are, of course 
always welcome.

MIPS is is its own special arch; last releases are from 2007.0. However, 
r0bertz and redhatter are working on getting stuff to first compile before 
putting together autobuild releases. If you've got any kind of MIPS machine, 
especially something fairly recent, please get in touch with the MIPS folks to 
see about getting stuff to build. MIPS could use more recent stages. The 
installation instructions for MIPS are so different they have their own 
entirely nonconformant handbook. With working autobuilds, even on a monthly (or 
longer) basis, I could fix up the handbooks to make them much easier for folks 
to maintain. Nonstandard documentation is always extremely difficult to work 
with.

Bottom line: the autobuilds idea is a sound one. However, it needs more 
maintenance than you might think. We need more people to watch it and help out.

Thanks for your time,

Josh


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Updated handbooks for autobuilds

2009-10-04 Thread Alex Alexander
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 21:42, Joshua Saddler  wrote:
> There. I did the x86 and amd64 handbooks (networked, anyway; who cares about 
> networkless). They're now ready for the 10th anniversary. I'm pretty sure.
>
> I also did the x86 quickinstall handbooks.

Thanks Joshua!

-- 
Alex || wired



Re: [gentoo-dev] Updated handbooks for autobuilds

2009-10-04 Thread Joseph Jezak
Joshua Saddler wrote:
> There. I did the x86 and amd64 handbooks (networked, anyway; who cares about 
> networkless). They're now ready for the 10th anniversary. I'm pretty sure.
>
> I also did the x86 quickinstall handbooks.
>
> GDP, and interested devs who can contribute patches to Bugzilla:
>
> Please review all the files I touched and make those same kinds of changes to 
> our other arch handbooks.
>
> Also, do review what I touched to make sure I didn't leave anything out, or 
> that keyvals aren't showing empty space or wrong variables.
>
> Happy 10th anniversary. I'm off to celebrate Oktoberfest. Maybe I'll do some 
> more work when I get back.
>
> * * *
>
> PS: Someone get that mother-$$#^^@&#($-ing bugzilla back online and comment 
> on the handbook autobuilds tracker bug with this status update. Bugzie is 
> down for me, and I'm out of time and patience to deal with it.
>   
Thanks for your work!

I'll take a look and update the PowerPC handbook.

-Joe



[gentoo-dev] Updated handbooks for autobuilds

2009-10-04 Thread Joshua Saddler
There. I did the x86 and amd64 handbooks (networked, anyway; who cares about 
networkless). They're now ready for the 10th anniversary. I'm pretty sure.

I also did the x86 quickinstall handbooks.

GDP, and interested devs who can contribute patches to Bugzilla:

Please review all the files I touched and make those same kinds of changes to 
our other arch handbooks.

Also, do review what I touched to make sure I didn't leave anything out, or 
that keyvals aren't showing empty space or wrong variables.

Happy 10th anniversary. I'm off to celebrate Oktoberfest. Maybe I'll do some 
more work when I get back.

* * *

PS: Someone get that mother-$$#^^@&#($-ing bugzilla back online and comment on 
the handbook autobuilds tracker bug with this status update. Bugzie is down for 
me, and I'm out of time and patience to deal with it.


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