[gentoo-dev] Virtual default changes for old users, was: Heads up: libjpeg-turbo stabilization, becoming the default

2011-06-01 Thread Christopher Head
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:33:03 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:

 libjpeg-turbo stabilization is happening for amd64/x86 at
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/360715
 
 - the gentoo-x86 has been converted to virtual/jpeg to support this.
 - we have no bugs reported against the package.
 - libjpeg-turbo is default in virtual/jpeg
 
 so just heads up.
 

Hi everyone,

Just a user, not a developer, but:

The third point of this message made me wonder about something. New
installs will get libjpeg-turbo, as it's the default. Old users may
never know it exists! It seems that making lbjpeg-turbo the default
implementation of virtual/jpeg is expressing some small preference in
favour of it, but old users will never be presented with the choice to
switch. It seems like this is a bit of a gap in package management,
that even if a better package becomes available and becomes the
default implementation of a virtual, existing users will keep using the
worse package for no other reason than that it's already installed
(and there's no message anywhere even telling them that the change
happened).

Does anyone think this is suboptimal and that it might be nice to
investigate alternatives?

Chris
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtual default changes for old users, was: Heads up: libjpeg-turbo stabilization, becoming the default

2011-06-01 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/01/2011 10:15 PM, Christopher Head wrote:
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 On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:33:03 +0300
 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
 
 libjpeg-turbo stabilization is happening for amd64/x86 at
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/360715

 - the gentoo-x86 has been converted to virtual/jpeg to support this.
 - we have no bugs reported against the package.
 - libjpeg-turbo is default in virtual/jpeg

 so just heads up.

 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Just a user, not a developer, but:
 
 The third point of this message made me wonder about something. New
 installs will get libjpeg-turbo, as it's the default. Old users may
 never know it exists! It seems that making lbjpeg-turbo the default
 implementation of virtual/jpeg is expressing some small preference in
 favour of it, but old users will never be presented with the choice to
 switch. It seems like this is a bit of a gap in package management,
 that even if a better package becomes available and becomes the
 default implementation of a virtual, existing users will keep using the
 worse package for no other reason than that it's already installed
 (and there's no message anywhere even telling them that the change
 happened).
 
 Does anyone think this is suboptimal and that it might be nice to
 investigate alternatives?

A couple of alternatives come to mind:

A) Create a news item to notify people who have media-libs/jpeg
installed that there is an alternative.

B) Put media-libs/jpeg in package.mask, so that migration happens
automatically.
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Thanks,
Zac