Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild development (vpopmail, etc.)
On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 22:07 -0700, Anthony Gorecki wrote: On Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:26 pm, Casey Allen Shobe wrote: I'm also a bit confused about the portdir_overlay thing - If there exists a -r15, do I then add a -r16 to make emerge realize an update is available. What happens then when an -r16 hits the regular portage tree? Nothing at all. If there's a conflict between the standard tree and your overlay, the ebuild in the overlay takes priority. In other words, something very important: You miss all the potentially critical changes contained in the new official revision. Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild development (vpopmail, etc.)
On Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:57 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote: In other words, something very important: You miss all the potentially critical changes contained in the new official revision. Yes, that's an important, /minor/ issue that I neglected to mention. At the time, I assumed that he would be aware of the risk, without thinking that he may not have been entirely familiar with the packaging system. In retrospect, it would have been helpful to mention that using an overlay without care can render a system unusable with alacrity :) -- Anthony Gorecki Ectro-Linux Foundation pgptqwn7sBEpC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild development (vpopmail, etc.)
maillog: 17/07/2005-23:57:05(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 22:07 -0700, Anthony Gorecki wrote: On Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:26 pm, Casey Allen Shobe wrote: I'm also a bit confused about the portdir_overlay thing - If there exists a -r15, do I then add a -r16 to make emerge realize an update is available. What happens then when an -r16 hits the regular portage tree? Nothing at all. If there's a conflict between the standard tree and your overlay, the ebuild in the overlay takes priority. In other words, something very important: You miss all the potentially critical changes contained in the new official revision. Since that's a common issue, maybe portage could warn the user sort of like this: $ emerge -pv app-foo/bar ... Warning: app-foo/bar-0.1-r2: [1] overrides a newer ebuild in [0] [ebuild R] app-foo/bar-0.1-r2 0kB [1] Portage overlays: [0] /usr/portage [1] /usr/portage-local I know [0] exists in my head only, but that's for illustration only. newer in this case refers to the mtime of the two ebuilds. The user checks, merges changes (or simply touches the ebuild in their overlay) and the warning goes away. However, there is also the possibility to lose all the critical changes from your overlay if you accidentally install the official newer revision (I bet there are plenty of people who may forget a package that they have in their overlays). That's already covered by http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67072 though. -- *) Georgi Georgiev *) Department chairmen never die, they just *) (*[EMAIL PROTECTED](* lose their faculties.(* *) +81(90)2877-8845 *) *) pgpE8IV9GaH4U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild development (vpopmail, etc.)
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 04:26 +, Casey Allen Shobe wrote: What do I need to do to get started on this? Do I simply mail a patch to this list, or ask somebody for a CVS account and commit changes directly? Well, becoming a developer requires some time. If you're simply looking to submit this one ebuild, then file a bug on bugs.gentoo.org and attach the ebuild to it. I'm also a bit confused about the portdir_overlay thing - If there exists a -r15, do I then add a -r16 to make emerge realize an update is available. What happens then when an -r16 hits the regular portage tree? Nothing would happen. Since you would already have -r16 installed, portage would just skip it. Once -r17 hit the tree, it would be upgraded to the in-tree version. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild development (vpopmail, etc.)
On Monday 18 July 2005 06:57, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 22:07 -0700, Anthony Gorecki wrote: On Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:26 pm, Casey Allen Shobe wrote: I'm also a bit confused about the portdir_overlay thing - If there exists a -r15, do I then add a -r16 to make emerge realize an update is available. What happens then when an -r16 hits the regular portage tree? Nothing at all. If there's a conflict between the standard tree and your overlay, the ebuild in the overlay takes priority. In other words, something very important: You miss all the potentially critical changes contained in the new official revision. So if I read correctly, when using an overlay, just don't change the version number - a rebuild will be sufficient to use the overlay version. Righto. Cheers, -- Casey Allen Shobe | http://casey.shobe.info [EMAIL PROTECTED] | cell 425-443-4653 AIM Yahoo: SomeLinuxGuy | ICQ: 1494523 SeattleServer.com, Inc. | http://www.seattleserver.com -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild development (vpopmail, etc.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Casey Allen Shobe wrote: I'm sure there will be more - there are a number of ebuilds I have small issues with that I just workaround. I'm much more inclined to just fix the problem instead of complaining about it because of past experiences involving reporting hundreds of bugs, many of which are not fixed to this day 2 years later. if you have the same problem with multiple packages or multiple problems with the same package, usually filing a metabug is a good idea - -- smithj Gentoo Developer [ desktop stuff network monitoring documentation ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC2/SSl5AvwDPiUowRAq3EAJ4qSm9k4jxNCl9ypNgTsGi4UluSvgCfeJjU Ct5vS1wR5ERrhbxMfu4rb7k= =Hl5j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] ebuild development (vpopmail, etc.)
Hi everyone, I'm planning to edit the vpopmail ebuild Real Soon Now to add the mysteriously missing postgres USE flag and thus end up with a package compiled with the support we need. Instead of wasting my time re-adding this every time a new version of vpopmail comes along, I'd much rather use this as an opportunity to get into Gentoo development and add this to the central ebuild repository so that all future versions inherit it. What do I need to do to get started on this? Do I simply mail a patch to this list, or ask somebody for a CVS account and commit changes directly? I'm also a bit confused about the portdir_overlay thing - If there exists a -r15, do I then add a -r16 to make emerge realize an update is available. What happens then when an -r16 hits the regular portage tree? Thanks for any information you can provide. Cheers, -- Casey Allen Shobe | http://casey.shobe.info [EMAIL PROTECTED] | cell 425-443-4653 AIM Yahoo: SomeLinuxGuy | ICQ: 1494523 SeattleServer.com, Inc. | http://www.seattleserver.com -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild development (vpopmail, etc.)
On Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:26 pm, Casey Allen Shobe wrote: Do I simply mail a patch to this list, or ask somebody for a CVS account and commit changes directly? Bugzilla: bugs.gentoo.org I'm also a bit confused about the portdir_overlay thing - If there exists a -r15, do I then add a -r16 to make emerge realize an update is available. What happens then when an -r16 hits the regular portage tree? Nothing at all. If there's a conflict between the standard tree and your overlay, the ebuild in the overlay takes priority. -- Anthony Gorecki Ectro-Linux Foundation pgpH39JRI2vVZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild development (vpopmail, etc.)
Casey Allen Shobe wrote: I'm planning to edit the vpopmail ebuild Real Soon Now to add the mysteriously missing postgres USE flag and thus end up with a package compiled with the support we need. Instead of wasting my time re-adding this every time a new version of vpopmail comes along, I'd much rather use this as an opportunity to get into Gentoo development and add this to the central ebuild repository so that all future versions inherit it. What do I need to do to get started on this? Do I simply mail a patch to this list, or ask somebody for a CVS account and commit changes directly? You should file a bug in http://bugs.gentoo.org. I'm also a bit confused about the portdir_overlay thing - If there exists a -r15, do I then add a -r16 to make emerge realize an update is available. What happens then when an -r16 hits the regular portage tree? if r15 exists in portdir_overlay, it will be preferred over the official r15 version. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
