Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: amateur radio applications should not be in media-radio

2010-07-15 Thread Thomas Beierlein
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:16:54 -0500
William Hubbs  wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 08:48:25PM +0200, Thomas Beierlein wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:27:47 -0500
> > William Hubbs  wrote:
> > 
> > > All,
> > > 
> > > I have recently noticed that our amateur radio applications are
> > > in the category media-radio.
> > > 
> > > Amateur Radio is not considered part of the media, so I would
> > > like to propose renaming this category to app-hamradio, or
> > > possibly moving the amateur radio applications to app-hamradio if
> > > there are things in media-radio which are not amateur radio
> > > related.
> > > 
> > I like the idea very much. But I am an radio amateur and therefore
> > I am a little bit biased :). I was always confused to find them in
> > media-radio. If we do the move please count on me.
> 
> I am an amateur radio operator as well, and that is why putting the
> ham radio apps in"media-radio" bothers me.  Ham radio is not part of
> the media. 
> > But to be honest there are some amateur (ham) radio related
> > packages in other categories too (e.g. app-misc/aldo - a cw morse
> > trainer, app-text/7plus - a packet radio text encoder, ..). So
> > maybe a general cleanup would be good.
> > 
> > A quick count in media-radio gives 12 packages for amateur radio
> > and 2 others (the second one coming in just today). In sunrise
> > there are 11 amateur radio related packages and 0 others. That
> > means a move to app-hamradio would leave media-radio nearly empty.
> 
> I would say that if the sunrise packages eventually get moved into
> portage, they should go in app-hamradio instead of media-radio, then
> maybe we could move the other ham radio packages over there, but then
> what would be the best choice for whatever is left in media-radio?
> 

I wonder if there is a formal approach to add new categories to
the tree or rename existing ones?

Thomas



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Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: amateur radio applications should not be in media-radio

2010-07-14 Thread Richard Freeman

On 07/14/2010 03:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:

I am an amateur radio operator as well, and that is why putting the ham radio
apps in"media-radio" bothers me.  Ham radio is not part of the media.


Most of the stuff in the media-* doesn't have anything to do with "the 
media" - whatever that is.


Media likely stands for multimedia - generally referring to anything 
that has to do with sound, graphics, video, etc.  I doubt that the 
jsmath font has anything to do with "the media," but it is a font, and 
fonts have to do with graphics, and graphics are part of multimedia.


If we REALLY want to move I guess we can do so, but I don't think that 
the category was supposed to be suggestive of the news or entertainment 
industries.


Rich



Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: amateur radio applications should not be in media-radio

2010-07-14 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 08:48:25PM +0200, Thomas Beierlein wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:27:47 -0500
> William Hubbs  wrote:
> 
> > All,
> > 
> > I have recently noticed that our amateur radio applications are in the
> > category media-radio.
> > 
> > Amateur Radio is not considered part of the media, so I would like to
> > propose renaming this category to app-hamradio, or possibly moving the
> > amateur radio applications to app-hamradio if there are things in
> > media-radio which are not amateur radio related.
> > 
> I like the idea very much. But I am an radio amateur and therefore I am
> a little bit biased :). I was always confused to find them in
> media-radio. If we do the move please count on me.

I am an amateur radio operator as well, and that is why putting the ham radio
apps in"media-radio" bothers me.  Ham radio is not part of the media.
 
> But to be honest there are some amateur (ham) radio related packages in 
> other categories too (e.g. app-misc/aldo - a cw morse trainer,
> app-text/7plus - a packet radio text encoder, ..). So maybe a general
> cleanup would be good.
> 
> A quick count in media-radio gives 12 packages for amateur radio and 2
> others (the second one coming in just today). In sunrise there are 11
> amateur radio related packages and 0 others. That means a move to
> app-hamradio would leave media-radio nearly empty.

I would say that if the sunrise packages eventually get moved into
portage, they should go in app-hamradio instead of media-radio, then
maybe we could move the other ham radio packages over there, but then
what would be the best choice for whatever is left in media-radio?

William



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Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: amateur radio applications should not be in media-radio

2010-07-14 Thread Thomas Beierlein
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:27:47 -0500
William Hubbs  wrote:

> All,
> 
> I have recently noticed that our amateur radio applications are in the
> category media-radio.
> 
> Amateur Radio is not considered part of the media, so I would like to
> propose renaming this category to app-hamradio, or possibly moving the
> amateur radio applications to app-hamradio if there are things in
> media-radio which are not amateur radio related.
> 
I like the idea very much. But I am an radio amateur and therefore I am
a little bit biased :). I was always confused to find them in
media-radio. If we do the move please count on me.

But to be honest there are some amateur (ham) radio related packages in 
other categories too (e.g. app-misc/aldo - a cw morse trainer,
app-text/7plus - a packet radio text encoder, ..). So maybe a general
cleanup would be good.

A quick count in media-radio gives 12 packages for amateur radio and 2
others (the second one coming in just today). In sunrise there are 11
amateur radio related packages and 0 others. That means a move to
app-hamradio would leave media-radio nearly empty.

Regards
Thomas.





[gentoo-dev] rfc: amateur radio applications should not be in media-radio

2010-07-14 Thread William Hubbs
All,

I have recently noticed that our amateur radio applications are in the
category media-radio.

Amateur Radio is not considered part of the media, so I would like to
propose renaming this category to app-hamradio, or possibly moving the
amateur radio applications to app-hamradio if there are things in
media-radio which are not amateur radio related.

What does everyone else think?

Thanks,

William



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