Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013, at 02:24 PM, Dustin C. Hatch wrote: > On 2/2/2013 13:19, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 15:55 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió: > >> 28.01.2013 23:26, Pacho Ramos пишет: > >>> Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is > >>> Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but > >>> not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility > >>> Gentoo :/) > >> > >> We have plymouth ebuilds in tree, but they are outdated(see > >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430478). > >> > > > > Could anyone summarize the advantages of splashutils over plymouth? As > > both look to be needed of some love in Gentoo, maybe would be better to > > focus on later one (that is the preferred option in most distributions > > and is actively developed) > > > As a user, I can say that one advantage of splashutils over plymouth is > that I could never get the latter to work, whereas the former has worked > on every machine I've tried to use it on (server, desktop, and virtual > machine). IIRC plymouth requires KMS so if your driver doesn't have KMS support then it doesn't have plymouth support.
Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer
On 2/2/2013 13:19, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 15:55 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió: 28.01.2013 23:26, Pacho Ramos пишет: Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility Gentoo :/) We have plymouth ebuilds in tree, but they are outdated(see https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430478). Could anyone summarize the advantages of splashutils over plymouth? As both look to be needed of some love in Gentoo, maybe would be better to focus on later one (that is the preferred option in most distributions and is actively developed) As a user, I can say that one advantage of splashutils over plymouth is that I could never get the latter to work, whereas the former has worked on every machine I've tried to use it on (server, desktop, and virtual machine). -- ♫Dustin
Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer
El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 15:55 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió: > 28.01.2013 23:26, Pacho Ramos пишет: > > Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is > > Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but > > not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility > > Gentoo :/) > > We have plymouth ebuilds in tree, but they are outdated(see > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430478). > Could anyone summarize the advantages of splashutils over plymouth? As both look to be needed of some love in Gentoo, maybe would be better to focus on later one (that is the preferred option in most distributions and is actively developed) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer
28.01.2013 23:26, Pacho Ramos пишет: > Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is > Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but > not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility > Gentoo :/) We have plymouth ebuilds in tree, but they are outdated(see https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430478). -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo Linux Developer Desktop-effects project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer
Hi all! Well, I think best solution for fbcondecor patch is to go mainline. May be after that there will be some interest fro maintaining splashutils from non- gentoo people. В письме от 27 января 2013 23:06:35 пользователь Pacho Ramos написал: > With spock retirement, splashutils became orphan. The problem is that it > has a lot of unresolved bugs for a long time: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=splashutils&list_id21218 > > that would need someone with more knowledge about it to maintain it (as > I don't have splash on my systems for years). > > Also looks like splashutils is no more developed, but I don't know if we > have a proper replacement for it in gentoo (most distributions are > moving to plymouth, but I haven't tried if it works ok on Gentoo) > > Thanks for your help -- Best Regards, Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, NRC Kurchatov Institute, Gatchina, Russia Department of Molecular and Radiation Biophysics Gentoo Team Ru Gentoo Linux Dev mailto:alexx...@gmail.com mailto:ale...@gentoo.org mailto:ale...@omrb.pnpi.spb.ru signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El lun, 28-01-2013 a las 00:25 +0100, Alex Legler escribió: > > Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is > Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but > not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility > Gentoo :/) > Officially, we have always used fbsplash + splashutils. I have no experience with dracut/plymouth though. -- Fabio Erculiani
Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer
El lun, 28-01-2013 a las 00:25 +0100, Alex Legler escribió: > On 27.01.2013 23:06, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > With spock retirement, splashutils became orphan. The problem is that it > > has a lot of unresolved bugs for a long time: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=splashutils&list_id=1521218 > > > > that would need someone with more knowledge about it to maintain it (as > > I don't have splash on my systems for years). > > > > Also looks like splashutils is no more developed, but I don't know if we > > have a proper replacement for it in gentoo (most distributions are > > moving to plymouth, but I haven't tried if it works ok on Gentoo) > > We have it, it works (or at least worked). Someone would need to > implement it in genkernel initrds though as at the moment only dracut > can handle it. > > In terms of package maintenance, I took the package from aidecoe when he > dropped it to avoid it getting removed. People seem to have found issues > in there now and it could use a bump. As I cannot boot my systems using > dracut initrds right now, feel free to take the package (and the openrc > plugin for it) and fix/bump/do whatever with it. > Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility Gentoo :/) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer
On 27.01.2013 23:06, Pacho Ramos wrote: > With spock retirement, splashutils became orphan. The problem is that it > has a lot of unresolved bugs for a long time: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=splashutils&list_id=1521218 > > that would need someone with more knowledge about it to maintain it (as > I don't have splash on my systems for years). > > Also looks like splashutils is no more developed, but I don't know if we > have a proper replacement for it in gentoo (most distributions are > moving to plymouth, but I haven't tried if it works ok on Gentoo) We have it, it works (or at least worked). Someone would need to implement it in genkernel initrds though as at the moment only dracut can handle it. In terms of package maintenance, I took the package from aidecoe when he dropped it to avoid it getting removed. People seem to have found issues in there now and it could use a bump. As I cannot boot my systems using dracut initrds right now, feel free to take the package (and the openrc plugin for it) and fix/bump/do whatever with it. > > Thanks for your help > -- Alex Legler Gentoo Security/Ruby/Infrastructure signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer
With spock retirement, splashutils became orphan. The problem is that it has a lot of unresolved bugs for a long time: https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=splashutils&list_id=1521218 that would need someone with more knowledge about it to maintain it (as I don't have splash on my systems for years). Also looks like splashutils is no more developed, but I don't know if we have a proper replacement for it in gentoo (most distributions are moving to plymouth, but I haven't tried if it works ok on Gentoo) Thanks for your help signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
