Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 10:57 -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: Well, we don't yet have reliable software in place to _count_ votes, but that's no reason not to start collecting them. The polls are now open, and will remain so until UTC 20060911 (one month). To vote, log into dev.g.o and type votify --help for instructions. If you run into any problems, please let me know. All current devs are eligible to vote. Incidentally, I'm currently serving as an election official since I'm not running for a spot on the Council. It would be good to have a couple other people acting as officials, too. Volunteers? Sure, just let me know what you need me to do Grant :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
On Thu, 2006-10-08 at 10:57 -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: Well, we don't yet have reliable software in place to _count_ votes, but that's no reason not to start collecting them. The polls are now open, and will remain so until UTC 20060911 (one month). To vote, log into dev.g.o and type votify --help for instructions. If you run into any problems, please let me know. All current devs are eligible to vote. Incidentally, I'm currently serving as an election official since I'm not running for a spot on the Council. It would be good to have a couple other people acting as officials, too. Volunteers? I volunteer (again).. What's the status on the search for voting software ? -- Olivier Crête [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Developer -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
Christel Doty wrote: [Thu Aug 10 2006, 12:34:50PM CDT] Sure, just let me know what you need me to do Grant :) Thanks! Um, I'm not quite sure what's going to be needed just yet, but I'll keep you informed. -g2boojum- PS. With three election officials, we probably have enough now. -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpa27hbJT3gJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
Olivier Crete wrote: I volunteer (again).. What's the status on the search for voting software ? We follow two trails : fixing countify or find something else. I'll have a look at countify, but more monkey eyeballs can't hurt. We didn't find a good alternative yet, so you can also help in that area. -- Koon -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:57:14AM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: Well, we don't yet have reliable software in place to _count_ votes, but that's no reason not to start collecting them. The polls are now open, and will remain so until UTC 20060911 (one month). To vote, log into dev.g.o and type votify --help for instructions. If you run into any problems, please let me know. All current devs are eligible to vote. What is the current election name that we should use when running votify? thanks, greg k-h -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg KH wrote: On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:57:14AM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: Well, we don't yet have reliable software in place to _count_ votes, but that's no reason not to start collecting them. The polls are now open, and will remain so until UTC 20060911 (one month). To vote, log into dev.g.o and type votify --help for instructions. If you run into any problems, please let me know. All current devs are eligible to vote. What is the current election name that we should use when running votify? thanks, greg k-h council2006 - -- === Mike Doty kingtaco -at- gentoo.org Gentoo/AMD64 Strategic Lead Gentoo Developer Relations Gentoo Recruitment Lead Gentoo Infrastructure GPG: E1A5 1C9C 93FE F430 C1D6 F2AF 806B A2E4 19F4 AE05 === -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBRNtw5oBrouQZ9K4FAQITPwP/Zq+JrI1GTIiZsscSheAai8WJ9YZUCubi FbC8KWL9/P/M0p8FdtdcPB74chOSt8bwtJel+EXRoi8QD1XCeO7LcA1tmpqsWT9v JXIiW58iX+e3VtYwYDKCZesa9Qaqy5uatGdZpqL9e9TEVqXvruukpyxqOQTcozV7 5FW6HdKMp70= =oPWB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
On Thursday 10 August 2006 21:42, Greg KH wrote: On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:57:14AM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: Well, we don't yet have reliable software in place to _count_ votes, but that's no reason not to start collecting them. The polls are now open, and will remain so until UTC 20060911 (one month). To vote, log into dev.g.o and type votify --help for instructions. If you run into any problems, please let me know. All current devs are eligible to vote. What is the current election name that we should use when running votify? council2006 -- voxus :wq pgpq6Q4iFamVG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
Olivier Crete wrote: [Thu Aug 10 2006, 11:42:14AM CDT] On Thu, 2006-10-08 at 10:57 -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: I volunteer (again).. What's the status on the search for voting software ? Well, fmccor has suggested STV[1], so the current plan is to use countify to assemble the usual master ballot, and then write some sort of glue script that will take the master ballot and transform it into whatever STV needs. Of course, the glue bit still needs to be written. [1] http://stv.sourceforge.net/ Thanks! -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpFfOf1MT6mA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:42:47 -0700 Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the current election name that we should use when running votify? To vote, log into dev.g.o and type votify --help for instructions. Doing that explained everything. :) Kind regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
Greg KH wrote: [Thu Aug 10 2006, 12:42:47PM CDT] On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:57:14AM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: Well, we don't yet have reliable software in place to _count_ votes, but that's no reason not to start collecting them. The polls are now open, and will remain so until UTC 20060911 (one month). To vote, log into dev.g.o and type votify --help for instructions. If you run into any problems, please let me know. All current devs are eligible to vote. What is the current election name that we should use when running votify? council2006 For those who are likely to forget, votify --help will actually tell you the names of the elections that are currently open (although that information shows up above the Instructions, making it easy to skip over). -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgp1OXGv5L5j5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 08:00:25PM +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:42:47 -0700 Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the current election name that we should use when running votify? To vote, log into dev.g.o and type votify --help for instructions. Doing that explained everything. :) Well, the name scrolled off the top of the screen, sorry for being dense this early in the morning :) greg k-h -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 21:49 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: Am Donnerstag, 10. August 2006 18:51 schrieb Grant Goodyear: Olivier Crete wrote: [Thu Aug 10 2006, 11:42:14AM CDT] On Thu, 2006-10-08 at 10:57 -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: I volunteer (again).. What's the status on the search for voting software ? Well, fmccor has suggested STV[1], so the current plan is to use countify to assemble the usual master ballot, and then write some sort of glue script that will take the master ballot and transform it into whatever STV needs. Of course, the glue bit still needs to be written. Hm, i see a problem here. IIRC STV expects one line of input per ballot, which lists all candidates sperated by spaces. Now, per votifiy, developers can put more than one developer per line, if they deem them to be equally competent. Isn't that incompatible behaviour? Yes, but if we use STV (and there are issues with it if Condorcet is a requirement, because Condorcet is really designed to pick one winner, and it takes some extra work to get a ranking), I have a tiny ruby script which can take any number of raw ballots and convert them into one (internal form) STV .blt file. (The equally competent part might be another problem with STV, but I have to go back and look at it carefully to verify that.) So the glue is rather easy; problem is the specific balloting method. STV supports several protocols for selecting some number of winners from a list of candidates, but Condorcet is not among them, because Condorcet is really a pick single winner method. (By the way, if the ballots from council2005 are still around, and if someone can make them anonymous (convert names to something like C1, C2, etc.), I can take them and show what results STV would give, if you'd like a controlled test.) Anyone having better information than I have, please correct my mistakes here. Danny -- Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project Regards, Ferris -- Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer, Gentoo Linux (Devrel, Sparc) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:03:26 + Ferris McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | So the glue is rather easy; problem is the specific balloting | method. STV supports several protocols for selecting some number of | winners from a list of candidates, but Condorcet is not among them, | because Condorcet is really a pick single winner method. All you need to do is delete the single winner from the election and repeat the process. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaran dot mccreesh at blueyonder.co.uk -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 21:11 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:03:26 + Ferris McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | So the glue is rather easy; problem is the specific balloting | method. STV supports several protocols for selecting some number of | winners from a list of candidates, but Condorcet is not among them, | because Condorcet is really a pick single winner method. All you need to do is delete the single winner from the election and repeat the process. True. I was hoping no one would notice, however, because that gets tedious (although once you have the ballots, it can be automated to a large extent). At some point, we should re-examine policy and run some controls to see if a voting method more closely designed for what we are actually doing might be more appropriate. In the middle of a voting cycle is probably not the right time for that, though, no matter what makes things easiest for me. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaran dot mccreesh at blueyonder.co.uk Thanks, I guess :), Ferris -- Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer, Gentoo Linux (Devrel, Sparc) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Grant Goodyear wrote: Well, we don't yet have reliable software in place to _count_ votes, but that's no reason not to start collecting them. The polls are now open, and will remain so until UTC 20060911 (one month). To vote, log into dev.g.o and type votify --help for instructions. If you run into any problems, please let me know. All current devs are eligible to vote. **All current devs are eligible to vote.** This includes Staff as well. Staff is anyone with an @gentoo.org address who doesn't have commit access to the ebuild tree. People like Forums, Bug Wranglers, Infra, Devrel, Userrel, etc... - --Curtis ps. thanks for getting the election process going and staying on top of it Grant. We all appreciate it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBRNubFUb8Q0uRCeTQAQFEawgAyWxt750f0OX3TV5yWxcLJBU6gAq36SSL SwIB/eJpQZLqpwB4XQ3NhWIxfULX9FhIRKbqbXP3t+Gn/1BjoGaEic7RM7VybWAs 9pRoXzLPUpHVkPRgJ3WZTrl1MHna6wNU/NrCJWLDlcOFzSsaQrffJWAyInU9wsIC 8fFxg8R6mJ6r2iyRggTQ+rpHDSMXdEeMy/SqNm2VptTti/vuXj60bpiwQsFtWQQM s7pqW9Jtay6RpBJta3x1LtIaoI1SAZ0MPuvyOQDsJulJ5MbrsnV/Q0LAXgGWXa1x SFJvAdTEg+z7ueMTwgEkWxjOOXQcWhUN5LnC1q30wjutdpFAZbb3/w== =TtvN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open
Ferris McCormick wrote: (By the way, if the ballots from council2005 are still around, and if someone can make them anonymous (convert names to something like C1, C2, etc.), I can take them and show what results STV would give, if you'd like a controlled test.) Please see the following -core mail. If you don't have it, it's at ~jkt/gentoo-core-20050901120915.GF11365 on woodpecker. Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 07:09:15 -0500 From: Grant Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-core] Election results Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, -jkt -- cd /local/pub more beer /dev/mouth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
