Re: [gentoo-dev] ECONF-OPTIONS (Was: PMS EAPI 3 more or less ready)
On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 16:17 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:11:15 +0300 Mart Raudsepp l...@gentoo.org wrote: * ECONF-OPTIONS query --disable-dependency-tracking has other implications than it being allowed to be passed to ./configure or not - such as dependency tracking being, well, disabled and the affects of that in face of any outside influences to headers used by it from the system, when compared to the case when dependency tracking is enabled. Such as when a separate (possibly parallel) install step kicks in. If a parallel install is overwriting things on / whilst a package is compiling, things are already horribly broken regardless of this switch. PMS explicitly forbids that from happening. That's that. And then there's the real world. Olivier Crête also has an outstanding comment about a maintainer possibly not wanting that disabled in case of patches applied. Could use some elaboration on that thought, or comments in replies. It's always possible to override it if necessary. No. It is possible to not use econf and write all of the options it's supposed to be passing manually. Probably missing something or otherwise being horribly long. --enable-fast-install is completely new to me for consideration under EAPI-3. Maybe I just missed it when reading PMS draft before, and it wasn't listed in the other summaries. No, it's been there all along. Ok. That doesn't change it's complete pointlessness to be there. Anyway, whatever on --disable-dependency-tracking Definitely _no_ on --enable-fast-install. It is already the default and when it isn't (I know of no such cases), upstream maintainer has _explicitly_ made it so. It is not our business to be passing the libtool specific default argument. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] ECONF-OPTIONS (Was: PMS EAPI 3 more or less ready)
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:56:56 +0300 Mart Raudsepp l...@gentoo.org wrote: If a parallel install is overwriting things on / whilst a package is compiling, things are already horribly broken regardless of this switch. PMS explicitly forbids that from happening. That's that. And then there's the real world. Yes, and in the real world, if you change / whilst something is compiling, things break. Olivier Crête also has an outstanding comment about a maintainer possibly not wanting that disabled in case of patches applied. Could use some elaboration on that thought, or comments in replies. It's always possible to override it if necessary. No. It is possible to not use econf and write all of the options it's supposed to be passing manually. Probably missing something or otherwise being horribly long. Uh, you just do econf --enable-dependency-tracking. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] ECONF-OPTIONS (Was: PMS EAPI 3 more or less ready)
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 13:58 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:56:56 +0300 Mart Raudsepp l...@gentoo.org wrote: If a parallel install is overwriting things on / whilst a package is compiling, things are already horribly broken regardless of this switch. PMS explicitly forbids that from happening. That's that. And then there's the real world. Yes, and in the real world, if you change / whilst something is compiling, things break. Except with dependency tracking they might not. Anyways, I was whatever on the --disable-dependency-tracking already. Olivier Crête also has an outstanding comment about a maintainer possibly not wanting that disabled in case of patches applied. Could use some elaboration on that thought, or comments in replies. It's always possible to override it if necessary. No. It is possible to not use econf and write all of the options it's supposed to be passing manually. Probably missing something or otherwise being horribly long. Uh, you just do econf --enable-dependency-tracking. I apparently did need that nap. Yeah, that should work. I believe you forgot the topic of --enable-fast-install. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] ECONF-OPTIONS (Was: PMS EAPI 3 more or less ready)
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:11:15 +0300 Mart Raudsepp l...@gentoo.org wrote: * ECONF-OPTIONS query --disable-dependency-tracking has other implications than it being allowed to be passed to ./configure or not - such as dependency tracking being, well, disabled and the affects of that in face of any outside influences to headers used by it from the system, when compared to the case when dependency tracking is enabled. Such as when a separate (possibly parallel) install step kicks in. If a parallel install is overwriting things on / whilst a package is compiling, things are already horribly broken regardless of this switch. PMS explicitly forbids that from happening. Olivier Crête also has an outstanding comment about a maintainer possibly not wanting that disabled in case of patches applied. Could use some elaboration on that thought, or comments in replies. It's always possible to override it if necessary. --enable-fast-install is completely new to me for consideration under EAPI-3. Maybe I just missed it when reading PMS draft before, and it wasn't listed in the other summaries. No, it's been there all along. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature
