Re: [gentoo-dev] Firefox 1.5 series will get removed in 30 days

2007-03-29 Thread Christian Birchinger
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 05:03:37PM +0100, Raúl Porcel wrote:
Hi,

The mozilla team has decided that the
www-client/mozilla-firefox[-bin]-1.5* series will get masked two weeks
from now (18 Mar 2007), that is 1 April 2007. And will be removed after
two weeks from that date, which will be 15 April 2007.
 
Mozilla will drop support for that series from 24 April 2007 onwards. All
arches have 2.0 series stable, so if you're using 1.5 you should migrate
to 2.0.

@GWN: Please include this in the next GWN.

P.S: No, this is not an April fools joke :)

Thanks.

Did upstream stop releasing security updates for for 1.5?
Because if they still support them, it would be nice to keep
that supported for a little longer.

2.x just uses more memory here (I don't mean the page cache etc)
and doesn't really offer any benefit to me. I use 1.5 with large
page caches (fastback and similar stuff) and it still doesn't waste
memory like the 2.x releases do.

I don't really think i'm the only one:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172621

I think that bug got interpreted the wrong way. No one expexted
Gentoo to fix the issue. It was a simple request to not drop 1.5
yet because there are issues with 2.x

Of course all this is only considerable if upstream still fixes
security issues for 1.5, otherwise i agree that it's too much
work to support it.

Christian
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Firefox 1.5 series will get removed in 30 days

2007-03-29 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Birchinger kirjoitti:
 On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 05:03:37PM +0100, Raúl Porcel wrote:
 Hi,

 The mozilla team has decided that the
 www-client/mozilla-firefox[-bin]-1.5* series will get masked two weeks
from now (18 Mar 2007), that is 1 April 2007. And will be removed after
 two weeks from that date, which will be 15 April 2007.

 Mozilla will drop support for that series from 24 April 2007 onwards. All
 arches have 2.0 series stable, so if you're using 1.5 you should migrate
 to 2.0.

 @GWN: Please include this in the next GWN.

 P.S: No, this is not an April fools joke :)

 Thanks.
 

 
 Of course all this is only considerable if upstream still fixes
 security issues for 1.5, otherwise i agree that it's too much
 work to support it.
 
 Christian

If you read what you are quoting:

 Mozilla will drop support for that series from 24 April 2007 onwards.

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Firefox 1.5 series will get removed in 30 days

2007-03-29 Thread Christian Birchinger
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:23:49PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
 If you read what you are quoting:
 
  Mozilla will drop support for that series from 24 April 2007 onwards.

That's still almost a month + the time no security issues
appear. This would be still better.

Christian
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Firefox 1.5 series will get removed in 30 days

2007-03-29 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 11:50 +0200, Christian Birchinger wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:23:49PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
  If you read what you are quoting:
  
   Mozilla will drop support for that series from 24 April 2007 onwards.
 
 That's still almost a month + the time no security issues
 appear. This would be still better.

How is prolonging the inevitable better exactly?

I understand some people's reluctance, but the Mozilla team *knows*
they'll have to remove the 1.5 series sometime on or after April 24th,
anyway.  Why should they bother keeping it in the tree?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Firefox 1.5 series will get removed in 30 days

2007-03-29 Thread Steev Klimaszewski

Chris Gianelloni wrote:

On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 11:50 +0200, Christian Birchinger wrote:

On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:23:49PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:

If you read what you are quoting:


Mozilla will drop support for that series from 24 April 2007 onwards.

That's still almost a month + the time no security issues
appear. This would be still better.


How is prolonging the inevitable better exactly?

I understand some people's reluctance, but the Mozilla team *knows*
they'll have to remove the 1.5 series sometime on or after April 24th,
anyway.  Why should they bother keeping it in the tree?


Because Portage sucks and it is oh so hard to add it into an overlay...


/me runs



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Firefox 1.5 series will get removed in 30 days

2007-03-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Raúl Porcel kirjoitti:
 Hi,
 
 The mozilla team has decided that the
 www-client/mozilla-firefox[-bin]-1.5* series will get masked two weeks
 from now (18 Mar 2007), that is *1 April 2007*. *And will be removed
 after two weeks from that date*, which will be *15 April 2007*.
 

Shouldn't an application as important as Firefox should get the usual
month in package.mask?

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Firefox 1.5 series will get removed in 30 days

2007-03-18 Thread Andrew Gaffney

Petteri Räty wrote:

Raúl Porcel kirjoitti:

Hi,

The mozilla team has decided that the
www-client/mozilla-firefox[-bin]-1.5* series will get masked two weeks
from now (18 Mar 2007), that is *1 April 2007*. *And will be removed
after two weeks from that date*, which will be *15 April 2007*.



Shouldn't an application as important as Firefox should get the usual
month in package.mask?


It's not the whole package, just older versions. With most packages, you 
wouldn't get the notification beforehand that older versions were disappearing.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Firefox 1.5 series will get removed in 30 days

2007-03-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Andrew Gaffney kirjoitti:
 Petteri Räty wrote:
 Raúl Porcel kirjoitti:
 Hi,

 The mozilla team has decided that the
 www-client/mozilla-firefox[-bin]-1.5* series will get masked two weeks
 from now (18 Mar 2007), that is *1 April 2007*. *And will be removed
 after two weeks from that date*, which will be *15 April 2007*.


 Shouldn't an application as important as Firefox should get the usual
 month in package.mask?
 
 It's not the whole package, just older versions. With most packages, you
 wouldn't get the notification beforehand that older versions were
 disappearing.
 

Good point.

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Firefox 1.5 series will get removed in 30 days

2007-03-18 Thread Raúl Porcel
Petteri Räty wrote:
 Raúl Porcel kirjoitti:
 Hi,

 The mozilla team has decided that the
 www-client/mozilla-firefox[-bin]-1.5* series will get masked two weeks
 from now (18 Mar 2007), that is *1 April 2007*. *And will be removed
 after two weeks from that date*, which will be *15 April 2007*.

 
 Shouldn't an application as important as Firefox should get the usual
 month in package.mask?
 
 Regards,
 Petteri
 

Ah, you want all the package masked? :P
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Firefox 1.5 series will get removed in 30 days

2007-03-18 Thread Raúl Porcel
Sorry for sending the mail in HTML :)
It won't happen again.

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