Re: [gentoo-dev] Make 'man' global USE flag from currently local
On 2/13/21 6:16 AM, Alessandro Barbieri wrote: > Il Sab 13 Feb 2021, 02:19 Aisha Tammy ha scritto: > > Hi all, > I am proposing to make the `man` USE flag into a global one. > Currently it is used by ~45 packages most of which have the same > description 'Build and install man pages': > https://packages.gentoo.org/useflags/man > Hopefully no objections to this part? > > Cheers, > Aisha > > > IMO manpages should be installed unconditionally and the useflag dropped > The key point to be stressed is BUILD and install. In most, if not all of those packages in question, I suspect they distribute prebuilt manpages. They USE flag is typically used to specify whether to pull deps to (re)build from scratch. So, the issue isn't really so much manpages being installed unconditionally, but whether they should be built from scratch when they are shipped prebuilt. -- Thanks, Adam Feldman Gentoo Developer np-hard...@gentoo.org 0x671C52F118F89C67 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Make 'man' global USE flag from currently local
toralf: > On 2/13/21 12:16 PM, Alessandro Barbieri wrote: > > > > IMO manpages should be installed unconditionally and the useflag dropped > > I'd like to disagree - IIRC there're packages with a ridiculous large > and expensive dep tree just to build their man pages. Agreed. That's saying a man page fan. :-) There might be good resons for developers to not pre-build their man pages. At least, we cannot change that.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Make 'man' global USE flag from currently local
On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 12:26:51PM +0100, Toralf Förster wrote: > On 2/13/21 12:16 PM, Alessandro Barbieri wrote: > > > > IMO manpages should be installed unconditionally and the useflag dropped > I'd like to disagree - IIRC there're packages with a ridiculous large > and expensive dep tree just to build their man pages. > It "would" be fine if maintainers were all willing to pre-build man pages and distribute them where relevant. There was a previous attempt[1] to make this a policy but it didn't work out. So now everyone is doing what they prefer, including using USE=man or unconditionally pulling deps just for man pages. If maintainers don't all want to do this for every packages, then I think USE=man needs to stay and go global, lot of users even get angered by not-so-heavy sphinx being pulled only for man pages they never read. [1] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/a6a8e840773da77ee6008ac23b4f89e1 -- ionen signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Make 'man' global USE flag from currently local
On 2/13/21 12:16 PM, Alessandro Barbieri wrote: IMO manpages should be installed unconditionally and the useflag dropped I'd like to disagree - IIRC there're packages with a ridiculous large and expensive dep tree just to build their man pages. -- Toralf PGP 23217DA7 9B888F45 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Make 'man' global USE flag from currently local
Il Sab 13 Feb 2021, 02:19 Aisha Tammy ha scritto: > Hi all, >I am proposing to make the `man` USE flag into a global one. > Currently it is used by ~45 packages most of which have the same > description 'Build and install man pages': > https://packages.gentoo.org/useflags/man > Hopefully no objections to this part? > > Cheers, > Aisha > IMO manpages should be installed unconditionally and the useflag dropped >
Re: [gentoo-dev] Make 'man' global USE flag from currently local
> Hi all, > Â I am proposing to make the `man` USE flag into a global one. > Currently it is used by ~45 packages most of which have the same > description 'Build and install man pages': > https://packages.gentoo.org/useflags/man > Hopefully no objections to this part? > Cheers, > Aisha Seems like a good idea to me. Tom
