Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-26 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 09/25/2013 03:07 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
 On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
 On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote:
 (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits
 which is a worrying argument on its own)
 
 11:16 #gentoo-bugs: +bonsaikitten ago: do me a favour and
 de-keyword all affected packages for s390
 
 Also, nobody give me an award for the commits, so I really don't
 understand what you mean.
 
 I don't understand why you quote something from Patrick.
 
 All I am saying, is to avoid mass-commits for no reason. The stable
 keywords will be lost during time by removing old version of the packages.
 

Unless you already have a broken depgraph ... which was the reason why I
poked ago as he caused the initial breakage by optimistically masking
too many versions of openldap.





Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-25 Thread Sergey Popov
24.09.2013 23:07, Markos Chandras пишет:
 On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
 On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote:
 (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits
 which is a worrying argument on its own)
 
 11:16 #gentoo-bugs: +bonsaikitten ago: do me a favour and
 de-keyword all affected packages for s390
 
 Also, nobody give me an award for the commits, so I really don't
 understand what you mean.
 
 I don't understand why you quote something from Patrick.
 
 All I am saying, is to avoid mass-commits for no reason. The stable
 keywords will be lost during time by removing old version of the packages.
 
 

I think optimal solution here is to СС unstable arches on stable
requests for new versions of packages to let them drop stable keywords.
And if they are silent - dropping keywords with all revdeps by
maintainer itself when other arches are done with stabilization.

-- 
Best regards, Sergey Popov
Gentoo developer
Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead
Gentoo Qt project lead
Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-24 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote:
 (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits which
 is a worrying argument on its own)

11:16 #gentoo-bugs: +bonsaikitten ago: do me a favour and de-keyword all 
affected packages for s390

Also, nobody give me an award for the commits, so I really don't understand 
what you mean.
-- 
Agostino Sarubbo
Gentoo Linux Developer



Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-24 Thread Markos Chandras
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On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
 On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote:
 (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits
 which is a worrying argument on its own)
 
 11:16 #gentoo-bugs: +bonsaikitten ago: do me a favour and
 de-keyword all affected packages for s390
 
 Also, nobody give me an award for the commits, so I really don't
 understand what you mean.
 
I don't understand why you quote something from Patrick.

All I am saying, is to avoid mass-commits for no reason. The stable
keywords will be lost during time by removing old version of the packages.

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer
http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 24-09-2013 a las 22:38 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió:
 Am Dienstag, 24. September 2013, 21:07:26 schrieb Markos Chandras:
  On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
   On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote:
   (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits
   which is a worrying argument on its own)
   
   11:16 #gentoo-bugs: +bonsaikitten ago: do me a favour and
   de-keyword all affected packages for s390
   
   Also, nobody give me an award for the commits, so I really don't
   understand what you mean.
  
  I don't understand why you quote something from Patrick.
  
  All I am saying, is to avoid mass-commits for no reason. The stable
  keywords will be lost during time by removing old version of the packages.
 
 Yeah, but while this process is ongoing, repoman will barf on the remaining 
 stable set... so better remove it in one go.
 
 -- 
 Andreas K. Huettel
 Gentoo Linux developer (council, kde)
 dilfri...@gentoo.org
 http://www.akhuettel.de/
 
 

Maybe repoman could be fixed: if ~sh and sh keywords will be enabled for
sh users, why repoman doesn't follow it? (and, then, let both keywords
to supply the needed deps)




Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-24 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 24. September 2013, 21:07:26 schrieb Markos Chandras:
 On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
  On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote:
  (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits
  which is a worrying argument on its own)
  
  11:16 #gentoo-bugs: +bonsaikitten ago: do me a favour and
  de-keyword all affected packages for s390
  
  Also, nobody give me an award for the commits, so I really don't
  understand what you mean.
 
 I don't understand why you quote something from Patrick.
 
 All I am saying, is to avoid mass-commits for no reason. The stable
 keywords will be lost during time by removing old version of the packages.

Yeah, but while this process is ongoing, repoman will barf on the remaining 
stable set... so better remove it in one go.

-- 
Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer (council, kde)
dilfri...@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/



Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 23. September 2013, 22:03:49 schrieb Agostino Sarubbo:
 Hello,
 
 the council has decided[1] to drop m68k, sh, s390 to unstable. If someone
 has something to say about, this is the last opportunity or in few days I
 will start to mark them as ~arch.
 
 [1]:
 https://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20130917-summary.txt

Hey Ago, 

please at least wait until the step from the news item is done (next sunday) - 
the modification of ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in the profiles. 

If you do anything before that it will only mess things up.

Cheers, A


-- 
Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer (council, kde)
dilfri...@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/



Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-23 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 22:03:49 +0200
Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote:

 Hello,
 
 the council has decided[1] to drop m68k, sh, s390 to unstable. If
 someone has something to say about, this is the last opportunity or
 in few days I will start to mark them as ~arch.

is there a need to waste your time on this ?

when mips was moved to ~arch it was done progressively: packages are
moved to ~arch (~all) with new versions/revisions, no new stable
keywords are added and old versions get removed.



Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On 09/23/2013 09:31 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 22:03:49 +0200
 Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote:
 
 Hello,

 the council has decided[1] to drop m68k, sh, s390 to unstable. If
 someone has something to say about, this is the last opportunity or
 in few days I will start to mark them as ~arch.
 
 is there a need to waste your time on this ?
 
 when mips was moved to ~arch it was done progressively: packages are
 moved to ~arch (~all) with new versions/revisions, no new stable
 keywords are added and old versions get removed.
 
I agree. There is absolutely *no* reason to drop the keywords on
existing packages and cause massive downgrades/upgrades for people
(unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits which
is a worrying argument on its own)

-- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer
http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang



Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-23 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
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On 09/23/2013 04:41 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
 On 09/23/2013 09:31 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 22:03:49 +0200
 Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote:

 Hello,

 the council has decided[1] to drop m68k, sh, s390 to unstable. If
 someone has something to say about, this is the last opportunity or
 in few days I will start to mark them as ~arch.

 is there a need to waste your time on this ?

 when mips was moved to ~arch it was done progressively: packages are
 moved to ~arch (~all) with new versions/revisions, no new stable
 keywords are added and old versions get removed.

 I agree. There is absolutely *no* reason to drop the keywords on
 existing packages and cause massive downgrades/upgrades for people
 (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits which
 is a worrying argument on its own)
 

The mass upgrades will happen when the profiles change ACCEPT_KEYWORDS
from arch to ~arch no matter what.  Fixing existing keywords just make
things tidy.

And ffs, ago has more commits than half the gentoo developers already,
I'd be more worried if he wanted less commits.

Ago, please keep up the good work, but after the profiles are updated.

Thanks,
Zero
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