Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-9999 (and upcoming 217) no longer has userspace firmware loader (will need Linux 3.7 for firmware's to be loaded)
On 11/11/14 01:41, Mike Frysinger wrote: On 01 Sep 2014 06:30, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 01/09/14 03:37, Patrick Lauer wrote: Consider this message a prenotice, now you know it's gone ... one more win for eudev. Sigh. They are planning in dropping the userspace loader as well, it's redudant afterall. Most firmware are kernel loadable by = 3.7 Everything is kernel loadable (3.7 and few later versions had some exceptions for more rare drivers) in latest echo /bin/busybox mdev /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug -mike I will continue to maintain eudev 1.10.x which has userland firmware loading support. Versions 2.0 and above removed it. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA
Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-9999 (and upcoming 217) no longer has userspace firmware loader (will need Linux 3.7 for firmware's to be loaded)
On 01 Sep 2014 06:30, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 01/09/14 03:37, Patrick Lauer wrote: Consider this message a prenotice, now you know it's gone ... one more win for eudev. Sigh. They are planning in dropping the userspace loader as well, it's redudant afterall. Most firmware are kernel loadable by = 3.7 Everything is kernel loadable (3.7 and few later versions had some exceptions for more rare drivers) in latest echo /bin/busybox mdev /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug -mike signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-9999 (and upcoming 217) no longer has userspace firmware loader (will need Linux 3.7 for firmware's to be loaded)
On 08/31/14 23:30, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 01/09/14 03:37, Patrick Lauer wrote: On Sunday 31 August 2014 17:13:49 Samuli Suominen wrote: Trying to raise awareness: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=be2ea723b1d023b3d385d 3b791ee4607cbfb20ca What are the effects for end-users? Nothing if they follow the CONFIG_CHECK that tells them to set CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER=n. And it's it's left to =y or they don't upgrade kernel _at least_ to 3.7, i.e. not paying attention, then... Will things just quietly fail hard (e.g. radeon driver - no firmware - screen corrupted/black)? ...this. http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/udev/udev-.ebuild ?r1=1.317r2=1.318 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/udev/udev-.ebuil d?r1=1.318r2=1.319 I will release a GLEP 42 news item *at the same time* =sys-fs/udev-217 is released into ~arch, so nobody will get caught off guard Consider this message a prenotice, now you know it's gone ... one more win for eudev. Sigh. They are planning in dropping the userspace loader as well, it's redudant afterall. Most firmware are kernel loadable by = 3.7 Everything is kernel loadable (3.7 and few later versions had some exceptions for more rare drivers) in latest We are in the middle of assessing whether we should drop this code or not for backwards compatibility. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA
Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-9999 (and upcoming 217) no longer has userspace firmware loader (will need Linux 3.7 for firmware's to be loaded)
On Sunday 31 August 2014 17:13:49 Samuli Suominen wrote: Trying to raise awareness: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=be2ea723b1d023b3d385d 3b791ee4607cbfb20ca What are the effects for end-users? Will things just quietly fail hard (e.g. radeon driver - no firmware - screen corrupted/black)? http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/udev/udev-.ebuild ?r1=1.317r2=1.318 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/udev/udev-.ebuil d?r1=1.318r2=1.319 I will release a GLEP 42 news item *at the same time* =sys-fs/udev-217 is released into ~arch, so nobody will get caught off guard Consider this message a prenotice, now you know it's gone ... one more win for eudev. Sigh.
Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-9999 (and upcoming 217) no longer has userspace firmware loader (will need Linux 3.7 for firmware's to be loaded)
On 01/09/14 03:37, Patrick Lauer wrote: On Sunday 31 August 2014 17:13:49 Samuli Suominen wrote: Trying to raise awareness: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=be2ea723b1d023b3d385d 3b791ee4607cbfb20ca What are the effects for end-users? Nothing if they follow the CONFIG_CHECK that tells them to set CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER=n. And it's it's left to =y or they don't upgrade kernel _at least_ to 3.7, i.e. not paying attention, then... Will things just quietly fail hard (e.g. radeon driver - no firmware - screen corrupted/black)? ...this. http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/udev/udev-.ebuild ?r1=1.317r2=1.318 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/udev/udev-.ebuil d?r1=1.318r2=1.319 I will release a GLEP 42 news item *at the same time* =sys-fs/udev-217 is released into ~arch, so nobody will get caught off guard Consider this message a prenotice, now you know it's gone ... one more win for eudev. Sigh. They are planning in dropping the userspace loader as well, it's redudant afterall. Most firmware are kernel loadable by = 3.7 Everything is kernel loadable (3.7 and few later versions had some exceptions for more rare drivers) in latest
