Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [RFC] Label profiles with EAPI for compatibility checks

2008-10-04 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Hi everyone,

 Please consider a new eapi profile configuration file that will
 designate the EAPI to which any package atoms within a given layer
 of the profile stack must conform. This will allow package managers
 to bail out with an informative error message if the user
 accidentally selects a profile containing an EAPI that is not
 supported by the currently installed package manager.

Long Long Ago there was a conversation about versioning profiles; is
there some reason why you prefer the eapi method (which arguably has a
smaller scope) over full profile api versioning (PAPI?)

Arguably we could use both in the future as well.


 In order to allow mixed EAPIs in the profiles, and to avoid having
 to configure the EAPI in every single layer, each directory of the
 profile stack should be able to either override or inherit the EAPI
 value that may have been defined in a previous layer of the profile
 stack. If no EAPI has been previously defined then it can be assumed
 to be 0.

 The format of the configuration file can be very simple, containing
 only the EAPI value and nothing more. For example, a file containing
  just a single 0 character, followed by a newline, could be
 created at profiles/base/eapi in order to explicitly declare that
 atoms in the base profile conform to EAPI 0. However, this
 particular declaration would be redundant since the base profile
 does not inherit from any other profile and therefore it's EAPI
 would be assumed to be 0 anyway.

 Does this seem like a good approach? Are there any suggestions for
 improvements or alternative approaches?

PAPI :)

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 Zac
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Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [RFC] Label profiles with EAPI for compatibility checks

2008-10-04 Thread Zac Medico
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Alec Warner wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 Please consider a new eapi profile configuration file that will
 designate the EAPI to which any package atoms within a given layer
 of the profile stack must conform. This will allow package managers
 to bail out with an informative error message if the user
 accidentally selects a profile containing an EAPI that is not
 supported by the currently installed package manager.
 
 Long Long Ago there was a conversation about versioning profiles; is
 there some reason why you prefer the eapi method (which arguably has a
 smaller scope) over full profile api versioning (PAPI?)

I'm not sure what the specific intentions of PAPI are, but the EAPI
approach that I've suggested is intended to enable different layers
of the stack to contain dependency atoms that conform to different
EAPIs. For example, the base profile could remain at EAPI 0 and
could thus be shared between some older profiles that conform to
EAPI 0 (at all layers) and some newer profiles that contain some
layers which require EAPI 1 or EAPI 2.

By allowing a mix of different layers with different EAPIs, the
intention is to promote code sharing since we can use a common base
profile between older and newer profiles, yet still be able to use
new EAPIs in newer profiles.

 Arguably we could use both in the future as well.
 
 In order to allow mixed EAPIs in the profiles, and to avoid having
 to configure the EAPI in every single layer, each directory of the
 profile stack should be able to either override or inherit the EAPI
 value that may have been defined in a previous layer of the profile
 stack. If no EAPI has been previously defined then it can be assumed
 to be 0.
 
 The format of the configuration file can be very simple, containing
 only the EAPI value and nothing more. For example, a file containing
  just a single 0 character, followed by a newline, could be
 created at profiles/base/eapi in order to explicitly declare that
 atoms in the base profile conform to EAPI 0. However, this
 particular declaration would be redundant since the base profile
 does not inherit from any other profile and therefore it's EAPI
 would be assumed to be 0 anyway.
 
 Does this seem like a good approach? Are there any suggestions for
 improvements or alternative approaches?
 
 PAPI :)

Would PAPI provide the same benefits in terms of code sharing by
allowing layers with different PAPIs to be mixed?

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Zac
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[gentoo-portage-dev] [RFC] Label profiles with EAPI for compatibility checks

2008-10-03 Thread Zac Medico
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Hi everyone,

Please consider a new eapi profile configuration file that will
designate the EAPI to which any package atoms within a given layer
of the profile stack must conform. This will allow package managers
to bail out with an informative error message if the user
accidentally selects a profile containing an EAPI that is not
supported by the currently installed package manager.

In order to allow mixed EAPIs in the profiles, and to avoid having
to configure the EAPI in every single layer, each directory of the
profile stack should be able to either override or inherit the EAPI
value that may have been defined in a previous layer of the profile
stack. If no EAPI has been previously defined then it can be assumed
to be 0.

The format of the configuration file can be very simple, containing
only the EAPI value and nothing more. For example, a file containing
 just a single 0 character, followed by a newline, could be
created at profiles/base/eapi in order to explicitly declare that
atoms in the base profile conform to EAPI 0. However, this
particular declaration would be redundant since the base profile
does not inherit from any other profile and therefore it's EAPI
would be assumed to be 0 anyway.

Does this seem like a good approach? Are there any suggestions for
improvements or alternative approaches?
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Thanks,
Zac
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