Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] initializing gentoo on ibook 12

2005-07-05 Thread Joseph Jezak
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 i8042.c: i8042 controller self test timeout.
 Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing  disabled

Try turning off both of these driverss:

Device Drivers - Character Devices - Serial Drivers
   8250/16550 and compatible serial support
Device Drivers - Input Device Support - Hardware I/O ports
   i8042 PC Keyboard Controller

Hope this helps,
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Re: [gentoo-user] GDM, Fluxbox and display 0

2005-07-05 Thread Daniel da Veiga
Ok, I'll try this again,

Any ideas on how can I run gdm and avoid being stuck because display
0:0 doesn't accept my WM?!

On 7/5/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:21:37 -0400, Justin Hart wrote:
 
  Yeah, I have to echo that I rather dislike the config file system in
  portage.  It would be nice if there was an alternative to etc-update,
 
 There is, dispatch-conf. Unlike etc-update, it will keep a backup of your
 old config files before overwriting them. It also lacks the -5
 self-destruct option.
 
  or something configurable to just copy in relevant sections, or cross
  reference them.
 
 etc-update can already do this, see the using_editor section of the
 config file. If you are running a desktop, you can use meld or xxdiff as
 the editor.
 
 
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[gentoo-user] IPtables statefull connection capable

2005-07-05 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
Hi,

If I’m correct then iptables is statefull connection capable, this means I
should not use rules like:
If state of connection is ESTABLISHED ...
If state of connection is RELATED ...

and i my use only:
If protocol is TCP and source is bla bla and destination port is bla bla
and state of connection is NEW

TIA
Patrick

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[gentoo-user] gentoo logo font

2005-07-05 Thread simply change
i need to create some gentoo wallpapers. but i couldn't find the gentoo logo font. 

pls help me find it?
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RE: [gentoo-user] IPtables statefull connection capable

2005-07-05 Thread Dave Nebinger
 If I'm correct then iptables is statefull connection capable, this means I
 should not use rules like:
 If state of connection is ESTABLISHED ...
 If state of connection is RELATED ...

Stateful connection means that you can have a simple rule up front to allow
for established and related connections.  It simplifies the rules and is
supposed to bypass a lot of the rule checking for allowed traffic.

After the established/related rules allowance you follow with the detailed
packets that you want to allow for new connections; after establishment the
connections will be handled by the established/related rule.

FWIW I recommend using an iptables management package like shorewall.
Greatly simplifies your rules development and maintenance.

Dave


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Re: [gentoo-user] .MID plugin for mozilla

2005-07-05 Thread Holly Bostick
Michael Sullivan schreef:
 I saved the .mid file to my hard drive and tried to open it with
 mozilla.  It gave me a dialog with this information:  
 
 The file #3 is of type #2 (#1) and #4 does not know how to handle
 this file
 type.  This file is located at:
 
 What should Mozilla do with this file?
 
 Open it with the default application
 Open it with
 Save it to disk
 
 I don't think this is normal.  When I select the default application
 option I get a message that says /home/michael/FF6opera.mid could not
 be opened, because the associated helper
 application does not exist.  Change the association in your
 preferences.  
 
 The trouble is that I've never used a helper application to play .mid
 files - I've always used mozilla...
 
Ummm... it seems to me you've always used a helper application... after
all, Mozilla is a *web browser*-- all it can do on its own is read web
pages. It can't play midi files, or movies, or anything, without a
helper application with that functionality being made available to it.
It's just that most of the time the operation of that helper app is
invisible to the user (but not always; consider for example the Acrobat
Reader plugin, which is by no means an invisible helper app, nor is the
RealPlayer plugin, which often opens RP in its own ugly window to play
the file in question).

The issue, as I see it, is that whatever backend is used to play midi on
your computer is either non-existant, non-functional, or disconnected
from Mozilla.

I suspect what Mark was suggesting was that you try to play the MIDI
file in a media player (the default application for MIDI files) and
see if you could hear it-- if so, then we'd know that the system is
capable of playing Midi files, just Mozilla doesn't know how. That's a
different problem than what would be indicated by not being able to hear
the file in XMMS (with correct plugin), or KMid, or whatever, at all--
then there's something wrong with your whole MIDI backend.

Do you have playmidi installed (eix or emerge -S playmidi)?

Holly
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[gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness

2005-07-05 Thread creighto
Trying to  Migrate to 2.6.  But when I reboot into my new genkerneled
system, I cannot use X.org anymore, it complains about agpgart not
working.  Even If I modprobe the kernel mod or even compile it in directly
it rejects it.
Any Ideas on how to proceed?

Creighton

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Re: [gentoo-user] .MID plugin for mozilla

2005-07-05 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 01:38:28PM -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 13:51 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:
  Try playing a midi locally.
  
  On 7/4/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I can't seem to get my mozilla to play MIDI files embedded in web pages.
   I don't understand why.  Before my reinstall (about a week ago) mozilla
   knew how to play .mid files.  Now it doesn't.  I have a sound card with
   hardware MIDI support and support for it is compiled into the kernel I'm
   running, but every time I go to a site that I know has background music
   the sound card is silent.  WAV files play just fine.  Any hints?
   
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  -- 
  - Mark Shields
  
 
 I saved the .mid file to my hard drive and tried to open it with
 mozilla.  It gave me a dialog with this information:  
 
 The file #3 is of type #2 (#1) and #4 does not know how to handle
 this file
 type.  This file is located at:
 
 What should Mozilla do with this file?
 
 Open it with the default application
 Open it with
 Save it to disk
 
 I don't think this is normal.  When I select the default application
 option I get a message that says /home/michael/FF6opera.mid could not
 be opened, because the associated helper
 application does not exist.  Change the association in your
 preferences.  
 
 The trouble is that I've never used a helper application to play .mid
 files - I've always used mozilla  Why didn't the first dialog show the
 filename correctly instead of all those funky #n things?
 

IIRC, Mozilla doesn't handle midi files. Most likely you had a helper
application that does before your reinstall and you just forgot about
it (=

Personally I use timidity with mozplugger 
(emerge -S mozplugger timidity)

But that's because I do some music arranging on the side and a good
patchfile for timidity allows me to here the music better. 
emerge -S midi should give you a list of programs in portage that
can handle midi. 

Best, 

W


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Re: [gentoo-user] .MID plugin for mozilla

2005-07-05 Thread Daniel da Veiga
You were probably using mozplugger to play all this files, its a
plugin that can handle most mplayer file types with mozilla firefox,
you can emerge it (or redo it) (emerge mozplugger).

Then if all goes right you'll be able to play mid, wav, mpg, avi and
all at mozilla. If you're not willing to play it on the browser
anymore simply go to a console and type 'mplayer file.mid' and
you'll probably have it played. If I'm not mistaken XMMS can play it
too.

On 7/5/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 01:38:28PM -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 13:51 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:
   Try playing a midi locally.
  
   On 7/4/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't seem to get my mozilla to play MIDI files embedded in web pages.
I don't understand why.  Before my reinstall (about a week ago) mozilla
knew how to play .mid files.  Now it doesn't.  I have a sound card with
hardware MIDI support and support for it is compiled into the kernel I'm
running, but every time I go to a site that I know has background music
the sound card is silent.  WAV files play just fine.  Any hints?
   
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   --
   - Mark Shields
  
 
  I saved the .mid file to my hard drive and tried to open it with
  mozilla.  It gave me a dialog with this information:
 
  The file #3 is of type #2 (#1) and #4 does not know how to handle
  this file
  type.  This file is located at:
 
  What should Mozilla do with this file?
 
  Open it with the default application
  Open it with
  Save it to disk
 
  I don't think this is normal.  When I select the default application
  option I get a message that says /home/michael/FF6opera.mid could not
  be opened, because the associated helper
  application does not exist.  Change the association in your
  preferences.
 
  The trouble is that I've never used a helper application to play .mid
  files - I've always used mozilla  Why didn't the first dialog show the
  filename correctly instead of all those funky #n things?
 
 
 IIRC, Mozilla doesn't handle midi files. Most likely you had a helper
 application that does before your reinstall and you just forgot about
 it (=
 
 Personally I use timidity with mozplugger
 (emerge -S mozplugger timidity)
 
 But that's because I do some music arranging on the side and a good
 patchfile for timidity allows me to here the music better.
 emerge -S midi should give you a list of programs in portage that
 can handle midi.
 
 Best,
 
 W
 
 
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 The classic way the textbooks do it is to sweep the problem under the rug
 and hope no one notices it. Since the course is going so fast... I guess
 that's what we'll do then.
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 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 2 days, 20:38
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Re: [gentoo-user] Extra buttons on my keyboard

2005-07-05 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 04:37:19PM -0600, Hani Duwaik wrote:
 I use xbindkeys.  Executing:
 
 xbindkeys -mk
 
 should allow you to see what key sequence the special keys are mapped
 to (and then use them in your '.xbindkeysrc' file to execute
 commands/apps).
 
 HTH,
 
 -Hani
 

neat! thanks. I've been using e16keyedit to set some hot keys for
enlightenment. With this I can make the hot keys WM-independent AND
make use of the extra keys on my keyboard.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-05 Thread Javier Villavicencio

Holly Bostick wrote:
[big snip]

Holly


Well said.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness

2005-07-05 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 06:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Trying to  Migrate to 2.6.  But when I reboot into my new genkerneled
 system, I cannot use X.org anymore, it complains about agpgart not
 working.  Even If I modprobe the kernel mod or even compile it in directly
 it rejects it.
 Any Ideas on how to proceed?

 Creighton


Without seeing the xorg logfile from /var/logs... I'd say you ahve to 
re-emerge xorg or at the least run revdep-rebuild -p to see whta has to get 
upgraded also.

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[gentoo-user] emerge question

2005-07-05 Thread mbeltran
hi

I want to emerge PHP to my box, a 2.6.11-gentoo-r11 but a want to emerge it
without x11 support. When I type emerge -p -v php I got this message:

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1  38 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3  732 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-misc/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3  19 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1  -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts -cjk
-debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -hardened -insecure-drivers +ipv6
-minimal -mmx +nls +opengl +pam -sdk -sse -static +truetype-fonts
+type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 45,094 kB
[ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r2  2 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.5-r1  20 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-200-r3  -Xaw3d -toolbar +truetype -unicode
681 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/lcms-1.13-r1  +jpeg +python -tiff +zlib 572 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/libmng-1.0.8-r1  497 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/tiff-3.7.2  1,231 kB
[ebuild  N] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r1  +nls +pam -samba -slp +ssl 8,501
kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r3  +cups -debug -doc -examples -firebird
+gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql -nas -odbc +opengl -postgres -sqlite
-xinerama +zlib 14,101 kB
[ebuild  N] app-crypt/mhash-0.9.2  833 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/pdflib-5.0.4_p1-r1  -java +perl +python -tcltk
2,759 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.19  +ipv6 +python +readline 3,100 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  +nls 316 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.2.1  +nls 938 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.12  +crypt +python 1,736 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libmcrypt-2.5.7  511 kB
[ebuild  N] app-text/aspell-0.50.5-r4  +gpm 992 kB
[ebuild  N] app-text/sablotron-1.0  -doc +perl 472 kB
[ebuild  N] net-libs/libwww-5.4.0-r3  +mysql +ssl 1,110 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-libs/db-1.85-r2  279 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] media-libs/freetype-1.3.1-r4  +nls -tetex 1,919 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/t1lib-5.0.2  +X -doc 1,657 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/php-4.3.11  +X +berkdb +crypt -curl -debug -doc
-fdftk -firebird -flash -freetds +gd -gd-external +gdbm -gmp -hardenedphp
-imap -informix +ipv6 -java +jpeg -kerberos -ldap -mcal -memlimit -mssql
+mysql +ncurses +nls -oci8 -odbc +pam +pdflib +png -postgres +qt +readline
-snmp +spell +ssl -tiff +truetype +xml2 -yaz 3,918 kB

Total size of downloads: 92,039 kB


Ok I have read that if I type this USE=-X -gnome -kde -xorg emerge -p -v
php i going to emerge PHP without x11 packets but didnt work, take a look:
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1  38 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3  732 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-misc/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3  19 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1  -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts -cjk
-debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -hardened -insecure-drivers +ipv6
-minimal -mmx +nls +opengl +pam -sdk -sse -static +truetype-fonts
+type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 45,094 kB
[ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r2  2 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.5-r1  20 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-200-r3  -Xaw3d -toolbar +truetype -unicode
681 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/lcms-1.13-r1  +jpeg +python -tiff +zlib 572 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/libmng-1.0.8-r1  497 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/tiff-3.7.2  1,231 kB
[ebuild  N] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r1  +nls +pam -samba -slp +ssl 8,501
kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r3  +cups -debug -doc -examples -firebird
+gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql -nas -odbc +opengl -postgres -sqlite
-xinerama +zlib 14,101 kB
[ebuild  N] app-crypt/mhash-0.9.2  833 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/pdflib-5.0.4_p1-r1  -java +perl +python -tcltk
2,759 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.19  +ipv6 +python +readline 3,100 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  +nls 316 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.2.1  +nls 938 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.12  +crypt +python 1,736 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libmcrypt-2.5.7  511 kB
[ebuild  N] app-text/aspell-0.50.5-r4  +gpm 992 kB
[ebuild  N] app-text/sablotron-1.0  -doc +perl 472 kB
[ebuild  N] net-libs/libwww-5.4.0-r3  +mysql +ssl 1,110 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-libs/db-1.85-r2  279 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] media-libs/freetype-1.3.1-r4  +nls -tetex 1,919 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/t1lib-5.0.2  -X -doc 1,657 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/php-4.3.11  -X +berkdb +crypt -curl -debug -doc
-fdftk -firebird -flash -freetds +gd -gd-external +gdbm -gmp -hardenedphp
-imap -informix +ipv6 -java +jpeg -kerberos -ldap -mcal -memlimit -mssql
+mysql +ncurses +nls -oci8 -odbc +pam +pdflib +png -postgres +qt +readline
-snmp +spell +ssl -tiff +truetype +xml2 -yaz 3,918 kB


Any sugesst?

Best regards
Mario
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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 ignoring -D ? (userdir, php4)

2005-07-05 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 14:53 -0400, Michael Haan wrote:
 On 7/5/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 16:58 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
   Not sure whether this is an apache2 or php problem or both:
  
   so this all says it _should_ be working.  I've checked permissions and
   ownership on ~/public_html and on my php scripts, the only thing I can
   think of now is the -D options in /etc/conf.d/apache2 seem to be
   ignored.
  
 I had a similar issue which was resolved by insuring that the
 installed version of mod_php matched the installed version of php.

Thanks for helping me exhaust possibilities, but they're the same
already.  I came across this somewhere on google...

On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 16:58 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: 
[snip]
 and the versions are
 
 net-www/apache v 2.0.54-r11
 dev-php/mod_php v 4.4.0_rc2
 dev-php/php v 4.4.0_rc2

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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 ignoring -D ? (userdir, php4)

2005-07-05 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi, 

thanks for the reply

On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 16:34 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 16:58 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
  Not sure whether this is an apache2 or php problem or both:
  
  so this all says it _should_ be working.  I've checked permissions and
  ownership on ~/public_html and on my php scripts, the only thing I can
  think of now is the -D options in /etc/conf.d/apache2 seem to be
  ignored.
 
 What about specific instructions to permit access to those directories?
 I had that biting me once.
 Directory /Directory ?/

Hmm, but my error log says its trying to get ~iain
from /var/www/localhost/htdocs which would imply its looking in the
wrong place to begin with... And with the php issue, I have access to
other files in htdocs anyway...

anyway, here's my entire virtual host, stripped of comments.

VirtualHost *:80
DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs
Directory /var/www/localhost/htdocs
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

IfModule peruser.c
ServerEnvironment apache apache
MinSpareProcessors 4
MaxProcessors 20
/IfModule
/VirtualHost

any other ideas? I'm happy too look anywhere to try and sort this out...
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[gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.

2005-07-05 Thread Scott Llewellyn
I recently purchsed my own domain and have been meaning to set up my own
person email servers.  I use zoneedit for my dns, and from what I understand
you can set up mail through them as well.

i decided to try to set it up today and i have almost finished, but im
having problem with one thing. I followed the Home Email system tutorial on
gentoo-wiki.com and I've managed to get outgoing email working fine.  I can
send to  any address from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and all the headers do seem
proper. What I can't do is send back to that email address from other email
address, eg a hotmail account.  It doesn't bounce back, it just is never
recieved.

I can connect to the server over imap and smtp on my internal network as
well.   I do have a firewall in front and I have not opened any email ports
(25 and imaps), but I tried sending from one internal user to another, and
that didn't work either.  As well, there are no logs of blocked requests on
thoes ports.

I'm not very experience with this accpect of networking. I've set up web
servers before, but never and email server and I don't even know where to
look for problems.


If anyone requires any config information please let me know, but I did
follow that tutorial very closly.


I did not setup fetchmail, but from what I could tell that was only user for
recieving emails from external servers, eg your isps email.

Thanks for any help anyone can be!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help interpreting top(1) display

2005-07-05 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Okay, thanks.  They are indeed niced, because there are a lot of them, and
I would like my keystrokes echoed sometime today

OTOH, where can I read about the others?

++ kevin

On 7/5/05, Calvin Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 7/5/05, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Cpu0  :  1.3% us,  1.9% sy, 96.0% ni,  0.8% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
 
  I'm running a bunch of compute-bound tasks, so I suppose the 'ni' fields
  indicate heavy use, but what exactly does 'ni' mean?  And what do the other
  fields mean -- if the 'us' field means 'user' then I'm really baffled.
 
  The man page is most helpful in deciphering the task displays, but I was
  unable to find a part about the header fields.
  --
  Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
 
 The full names for the first three are user, system, and nice. It
 appears that the tasks your are running are being run 'niced', see man
 nice. The priority is set to lower (or possibly higher, i'm not
 sure...) than regular tasks in the system, and the cpu usage shows up
 under nice instead of user.
 
 --
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Travelling in Greece, need advice

2005-07-05 Thread Jason Cooper
Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Hello!  I am travelling and am currently on the Greek island of Corfu.
  It is great!  I have my laptop but I'm finding it totally impossible
 to find a place that will let me plug into their network for Internet
 access.  I can't use public systems because of keyboard loggers and
 bank passwords etc.  My business is seriously dying at this point and
 after a lot of thinking, I think my best option is to get my modem
 working and hire one of the global dial-up providers.  I should be
 able to find a phone line wherever I am.  Does anyone have a better
 idea?  If not, does anyone recommend a particular one of these
 companies?

Go wifi, try this for a list of hotspots worldwide:

http://intel.jiwire.com/

hth,

cooper.
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Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED! apache2 ignoring -D ? (userdir, php4)

2005-07-05 Thread Iain Buchanan
Well, since shutting down my computer yesterday, and starting up this
morning, both issues seem to be solved...

I don't know why - I haven't done anything else to apache / php /
whatever.

And yes, I'm sure I restarted apache many times yesterday before I
posted :)

Thanks for the suggestions,
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge question

2005-07-05 Thread Edward Catmur
You need to set -qt, not -kde.

On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 17:27 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi
 
 I want to emerge PHP to my box, a 2.6.11-gentoo-r11 but a want to emerge it
 without x11 support. When I type emerge -p -v php I got this message:
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1  38 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3  732 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-misc/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3  19 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1  -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts -cjk
 -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -hardened -insecure-drivers +ipv6
 -minimal -mmx +nls +opengl +pam -sdk -sse -static +truetype-fonts
 +type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 45,094 kB
 [ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r2  2 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.5-r1  20 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-200-r3  -Xaw3d -toolbar +truetype -unicode
 681 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/lcms-1.13-r1  +jpeg +python -tiff +zlib 572 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/libmng-1.0.8-r1  497 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/tiff-3.7.2  1,231 kB
 [ebuild  N] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r1  +nls +pam -samba -slp +ssl 8,501
 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r3  +cups -debug -doc -examples -firebird
 +gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql -nas -odbc +opengl -postgres -sqlite
 -xinerama +zlib 14,101 kB
 [ebuild  N] app-crypt/mhash-0.9.2  833 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/pdflib-5.0.4_p1-r1  -java +perl +python -tcltk
 2,759 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.19  +ipv6 +python +readline 3,100 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  +nls 316 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.2.1  +nls 938 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.12  +crypt +python 1,736 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libmcrypt-2.5.7  511 kB
 [ebuild  N] app-text/aspell-0.50.5-r4  +gpm 992 kB
 [ebuild  N] app-text/sablotron-1.0  -doc +perl 472 kB
 [ebuild  N] net-libs/libwww-5.4.0-r3  +mysql +ssl 1,110 kB
 [ebuild  NS   ] sys-libs/db-1.85-r2  279 kB
 [ebuild  NS   ] media-libs/freetype-1.3.1-r4  +nls -tetex 1,919 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/t1lib-5.0.2  +X -doc 1,657 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-php/php-4.3.11  +X +berkdb +crypt -curl -debug -doc
 -fdftk -firebird -flash -freetds +gd -gd-external +gdbm -gmp -hardenedphp
 -imap -informix +ipv6 -java +jpeg -kerberos -ldap -mcal -memlimit -mssql
 +mysql +ncurses +nls -oci8 -odbc +pam +pdflib +png -postgres +qt +readline
 -snmp +spell +ssl -tiff +truetype +xml2 -yaz 3,918 kB
 
 Total size of downloads: 92,039 kB
 
 
 Ok I have read that if I type this USE=-X -gnome -kde -xorg emerge -p -v
 php i going to emerge PHP without x11 packets but didnt work, take a look:
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-2.2.1  38 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3  732 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-misc/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3  19 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1  -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts -cjk
 -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -hardened -insecure-drivers +ipv6
 -minimal -mmx +nls +opengl +pam -sdk -sse -static +truetype-fonts
 +type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 45,094 kB
 [ebuild  N] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r2  2 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.5-r1  20 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-200-r3  -Xaw3d -toolbar +truetype -unicode
 681 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/lcms-1.13-r1  +jpeg +python -tiff +zlib 572 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/libmng-1.0.8-r1  497 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/tiff-3.7.2  1,231 kB
 [ebuild  N] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r1  +nls +pam -samba -slp +ssl 8,501
 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r3  +cups -debug -doc -examples -firebird
 +gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql -nas -odbc +opengl -postgres -sqlite
 -xinerama +zlib 14,101 kB
 [ebuild  N] app-crypt/mhash-0.9.2  833 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/pdflib-5.0.4_p1-r1  -java +perl +python -tcltk
 2,759 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.19  +ipv6 +python +readline 3,100 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  +nls 316 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.2.1  +nls 938 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.12  +crypt +python 1,736 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libmcrypt-2.5.7  511 kB
 [ebuild  N] app-text/aspell-0.50.5-r4  +gpm 992 kB
 [ebuild  N] app-text/sablotron-1.0  -doc +perl 472 kB
 [ebuild  N] net-libs/libwww-5.4.0-r3  +mysql +ssl 1,110 kB
 [ebuild  NS   ] sys-libs/db-1.85-r2  279 kB
 [ebuild  NS   ] media-libs/freetype-1.3.1-r4  +nls -tetex 1,919 kB
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/t1lib-5.0.2  -X -doc 1,657 kB
 [ebuild  N] dev-php/php-4.3.11  -X +berkdb +crypt -curl -debug -doc
 -fdftk -firebird -flash -freetds +gd -gd-external +gdbm -gmp -hardenedphp
 -imap -informix +ipv6 -java +jpeg -kerberos -ldap -mcal -memlimit -mssql
 +mysql +ncurses +nls -oci8 -odbc +pam +pdflib +png -postgres +qt +readline
 -snmp +spell +ssl -tiff +truetype +xml2 -yaz 3,918 kB
 
 
 Any 

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Travelling in Greece, need advice

2005-07-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 02:07, Jason Cooper wrote:
 Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
  Hello!  I am travelling and am currently on the Greek island of Corfu.
   It is great!  I have my laptop but I'm finding it totally impossible
  to find a place that will let me plug into their network for Internet
  access.  I can't use public systems because of keyboard loggers and
  bank passwords etc.  My business is seriously dying at this point and
  after a lot of thinking, I think my best option is to get my modem
  working and hire one of the global dial-up providers.  I should be
  able to find a phone line wherever I am.  Does anyone have a better
  idea?  If not, does anyone recommend a particular one of these
  companies?

 Go wifi, try this for a list of hotspots worldwide:

 http://intel.jiwire.com/

 hth,

 cooper.

I would not trust a wifi setup by a unknown 3rd party to do online banking.

The security of the average wifi is pretty low. Because of lazyness, stupidity 
or bugs.

Get a modem, you should be able to dial in to several local and international 
isps :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Travelling in Greece, need advice

2005-07-05 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jul 5, 2005, at 7:11 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:


On Wednesday 06 July 2005 02:07, Jason Cooper wrote:


Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:

Hello!  I am travelling and am currently on the Greek island of  
Corfu.
 It is great!  I have my laptop but I'm finding it totally  
impossible
to find a place that will let me plug into their network for  
Internet

access.  I can't use public systems because of keyboard loggers and
bank passwords etc.  My business is seriously dying at this point  
and

after a lot of thinking, I think my best option is to get my modem
working and hire one of the global dial-up providers.  I should be
able to find a phone line wherever I am.  Does anyone have a better
idea?  If not, does anyone recommend a particular one of these
companies?



Go wifi, try this for a list of hotspots worldwide:

http://intel.jiwire.com/

hth,

cooper.



I would not trust a wifi setup by a unknown 3rd party to do online  
banking.


The security of the average wifi is pretty low. Because of  
lazyness, stupidity

or bugs.


However, any good bank will have SSL for the higher level protocols,  
and the wifi should be as secure as public wired connections (ie DSL  
etc).  (which is to say, not secure).  If you trust your cable modem  
or DSL to do SSL-enabled online banking, you should be ok with the wifi



Chad




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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Travelling in Greece, need advice

2005-07-05 Thread Jason Cooper
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Jul 5, 2005, at 7:11 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Wednesday 06 July 2005 02:07, Jason Cooper wrote:
 Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
[snip]
 after a lot of thinking, I think my best option is to get my modem
 working and hire one of the global dial-up providers.  I should be
 able to find a phone line wherever I am.  Does anyone have a better
 idea?  If not, does anyone recommend a particular one of these
 companies?
 
 Go wifi, try this for a list of hotspots worldwide:
 
 http://intel.jiwire.com/
 
 I would not trust a wifi setup by a unknown 3rd party to do online  
 banking.
 
 The security of the average wifi is pretty low. Because of  
 lazyness, stupidity
 or bugs.
 
 However, any good bank will have SSL for the higher level protocols,  
 and the wifi should be as secure as public wired connections (ie DSL  
 etc).  (which is to say, not secure).  If you trust your cable modem  
 or DSL to do SSL-enabled online banking, you should be ok with the wifi

Just keep in mind to always check that SSL is locked _before_ entering
any login information. ;)

hth,

cooper.
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[gentoo-user] Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:

2005-07-05 Thread W.Kenworthy
After an update (possibly pam related) a couple of weeks ago, I can no
longer run so X apps under sudo (starting apps from a root logged in via
su in an xterm work fine).  

In particular, I have some scripts using gtkdialog (which run as root)
to ask which network for my laptop using a small gui before starting
the correct network.  However, any attempt to open a dialog generates an
error (gtkdialog:18408): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:  xhost +
doesnt help so its probably another PAM problem - can someone recommend
where to look?

BillK


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Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-05 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 09:01:21AM -0700, Bob Sanders wrote

 Too bad neither work 100%.  Neither will produce -
 
 # Modelines for 1600SW MultiLink  
   
 ModeLine 512x384 19.392 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 
   
 ModeLine 512x384 21.978 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 494 
   
 ModeLine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 108 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 
 +hsync +vsync 
 ModeLine 1600x1024 103.125 1600 1600 1656 1664 1024 1024 1029 1030 HSkew 7 
 +Hsync +Vsync

  [...deletia...]

 Why should the driver disallow valid modes?  Both ATI and Nvidia
 drivers do so -
 ATI - won't do 1600x1024, monitor SGI FP1600SW
 Nvidia - won't do 1280x768, monitor Viewsonic N1700W
 
 And it's not just Linux.  These rejections are for WinXX as well.
 Funny thing - Nvidia works fine (except the one 6600 card I have)
 at 1600x1024, and ATI works fine at 1280x768 (but the chip on the
 9250 died - a full 4 months of life).

  Maybe the reason that asking for 16/10 didn't generate 1600x1024 is
because 1600x1024 != 16/10 g.  I went back and specifically asked
for 1600x1024 at the ilog.fr site, and I got a working modeline for my
6-year-old ATI (Mach64 chipset).

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Travelling in Greece, need advice

2005-07-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 03:29, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:

  I would not trust a wifi setup by a unknown 3rd party to do online
  banking.
 
  The security of the average wifi is pretty low. Because of
  lazyness, stupidity
  or bugs.

 However, any good bank will have SSL for the higher level protocols,
 and the wifi should be as secure as public wired connections (ie DSL
 etc).  (which is to say, not secure).  If you trust your cable modem
 or DSL to do SSL-enabled online banking, you should be ok with the wifi


hm, you want to tell me, that it is as easy to get into the computer room, 
hack a line and listen, than to hold an atenna in the right direction?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.

2005-07-05 Thread Scott Llewellyn
I believe that my ISP has port 25 closed. I have it opened externally in my
firewall and it is still showing as being closed to the internet.  Could
this have an effect on recieving mail? and if so, how should I fix that?

Thanks

Scott Llewellyn
- Original Message -
From: Scott Llewellyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.


 alright, this is what I got form   dig www.xploited.ca MX


 ;  DiG 9.2.3  www.xploited.ca MX
 ;; global options:  printcmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;www.xploited.ca.  IN MX

 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 xploited.ca.  7171 IN SOA ns16.zoneedit.com. soacontact.zoneedit.com.
 1109230065 14400 7200 950400 7200

 ;; Query time: 62 msec
 ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
 ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 05 21:48:32 2005
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 97



 and here it is just  dig www.xploited.ca


 ;  DiG 9.2.3  www.xploited.ca
 ;; global options:  printcmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1

 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;www.xploited.ca.  IN A

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 www.xploited.ca. 300 IN A 142.177.224.149

 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 xploited.ca.  3701 IN NS ns13.zoneedit.com.
 xploited.ca.  3701 IN NS ns16.zoneedit.com.

 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 ns16.zoneedit.com. 649 IN A 216.110.187.226

 ;; Query time: 140 msec
 ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
 ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 05 21:49:54 2005
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 115


 Let me know what you think!!


 Thanks

 Scott
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.


 
 
  On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Scott Llewellyn wrote:
 
   I recently purchsed my own domain and have been meaning to set up my
own
   person email servers.  I use zoneedit for my dns, and from what I
 understand
   you can set up mail through them as well.
  
   i decided to try to set it up today and i have almost finished, but im
   having problem with one thing. I followed the Home Email system
tutorial
 on
   gentoo-wiki.com and I've managed to get outgoing email working fine.
I
 can
   send to  any address from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and all the headers do seem
   proper. What I can't do is send back to that email address from other
 email
   address, eg a hotmail account.  It doesn't bounce back, it just is
never
   recieved.
  
   I can connect to the server over imap and smtp on my internal network
as
   well.   I do have a firewall in front and I have not opened any email
 ports
   (25 and imaps), but I tried sending from one internal user to another,
 and
   that didn't work either.  As well, there are no logs of blocked
requests
 on
   thoes ports.
  
   I'm not very experience with this accpect of networking. I've set up
web
   servers before, but never and email server and I don't even know where
 to
   look for problems.
  
  
   If anyone requires any config information please let me know, but I
did
   follow that tutorial very closly.
  
  
   I did not setup fetchmail, but from what I could tell that was only
user
 for
   recieving emails from external servers, eg your isps email.
 
  When I did this, I found setting up my mx records very tricky. Can you
  post the output from dig? It might point out suspicious settings.
 
  Michael
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Travelling in Greece, need advice

2005-07-05 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:53 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:


On Wednesday 06 July 2005 03:29, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:





I would not trust a wifi setup by a unknown 3rd party to do online
banking.

The security of the average wifi is pretty low. Because of
lazyness, stupidity
or bugs.



However, any good bank will have SSL for the higher level protocols,
and the wifi should be as secure as public wired connections (ie DSL
etc).  (which is to say, not secure).  If you trust your cable modem
or DSL to do SSL-enabled online banking, you should be ok with the  
wifi





hm, you want to tell me, that it is as easy to get into the  
computer room,


No need to get into the computer room.  Plenty of cables leading out  
of the computer room.  I could tap any of my neighbors cable lines or  
phone lines without them knowing and without going into their house.


Once you get outside the computer room you are on the unprotected  
internet, whether you are on wifi or DSL or cable or modem to get there.


Chad


hack a line and listen, than to hold an atenna in the right direction?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.

2005-07-05 Thread W.Kenworthy
email them and ask :)

My ISP has a web page (toolbox) that allows port blocking to be turned
off or on - defaults to on to protect new accounts, but allows users to
turn it off (25, 80, 139  445 - only all on or off unfortunately) as
needed.

BillK


On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 02:07 -0300, Scott Llewellyn wrote:
 I believe that my ISP has port 25 closed. I have it opened externally in my
 firewall and it is still showing as being closed to the internet.  Could
 this have an effect on recieving mail? and if so, how should I fix that?
 
 Thanks
 
 Scott Llewellyn
 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Llewellyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.
 
 
  alright, this is what I got form   dig www.xploited.ca MX
 
 
  ;  DiG 9.2.3  www.xploited.ca MX
  ;; global options:  printcmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
  ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
 
  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
  ;www.xploited.ca.  IN MX
 
  ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
  xploited.ca.  7171 IN SOA ns16.zoneedit.com. soacontact.zoneedit.com.
  1109230065 14400 7200 950400 7200
 
  ;; Query time: 62 msec
  ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
  ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 05 21:48:32 2005
  ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 97
 
 
 
  and here it is just  dig www.xploited.ca
 
 
  ;  DiG 9.2.3  www.xploited.ca
  ;; global options:  printcmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
  ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1
 
  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
  ;www.xploited.ca.  IN A
 
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  www.xploited.ca. 300 IN A 142.177.224.149
 
  ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
  xploited.ca.  3701 IN NS ns13.zoneedit.com.
  xploited.ca.  3701 IN NS ns16.zoneedit.com.
 
  ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
  ns16.zoneedit.com. 649 IN A 216.110.187.226
 
  ;; Query time: 140 msec
  ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
  ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 05 21:49:54 2005
  ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 115
 
 
  Let me know what you think!!
 
 
  Thanks
 
  Scott
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.
 
 
  
  
   On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Scott Llewellyn wrote:
  
I recently purchsed my own domain and have been meaning to set up my
 own
person email servers.  I use zoneedit for my dns, and from what I
  understand
you can set up mail through them as well.
   
i decided to try to set it up today and i have almost finished, but im
having problem with one thing. I followed the Home Email system
 tutorial
  on
gentoo-wiki.com and I've managed to get outgoing email working fine.
 I
  can
send to  any address from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and all the headers do seem
proper. What I can't do is send back to that email address from other
  email
address, eg a hotmail account.  It doesn't bounce back, it just is
 never
recieved.
   
I can connect to the server over imap and smtp on my internal network
 as
well.   I do have a firewall in front and I have not opened any email
  ports
(25 and imaps), but I tried sending from one internal user to another,
  and
that didn't work either.  As well, there are no logs of blocked
 requests
  on
thoes ports.
   
I'm not very experience with this accpect of networking. I've set up
 web
servers before, but never and email server and I don't even know where
  to
look for problems.
   
   
If anyone requires any config information please let me know, but I
 did
follow that tutorial very closly.
   
   
I did not setup fetchmail, but from what I could tell that was only
 user
  for
recieving emails from external servers, eg your isps email.
  
   When I did this, I found setting up my mx records very tricky. Can you
   post the output from dig? It might point out suspicious settings.
  
   Michael
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