Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions?
I would compare GUI to helper wheels for bycicles. You may need them if you can't ride, but once you know how to ride they start limiting you and getting in your way. In my experience, time spent to learn the text interface is much better invested than time spent to learn which button to push, which box to check and where the menu item is located. Text commands combined with the arsenal of standard UNIX tools (awk, sed, Perl, piping, regular expressions, output redirection, shell scripting, job scheduling) are way more powerful and flexible than any imaginable GUI. Image processing tools are exceptions (to certain extent) to which portage does not belong. Just an opinion... (you asked for one). Arkady.On 9/14/05, Michael W. Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 14 September 2005 05:41 pm, Christoph Eckert wrote: Has anyone heard of this? Any opinions? There's also KGentooConf: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26601I like the looks of this, w/b nice to have an ebuild.Mike--Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org|Kernel 2.6.11-ck8 |Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com |Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com ||-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding trick portage.mask situation
From:: Matthew Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Question regarding trick portage.mask situation Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:20:01 -0400 I've been having serious problems with newer versions of gentoo-sources (basically 2.6.12-r9 and 2.6.12-r10), so I have downgraded to 2.6.12-r4, which is rock solid for me. So, I thought to add something like this atom to /etc/portage/package.mask: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r4 However, what I really want to to is mask all versions of gentoo-sources greater than 2.6.12-r4 and less than or equal to 2.6.12-r10, so that I can test newer versions of gentoo-sources beyond 2.6.12-r10 when they become available. So, what I really want is something like this: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r4 =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 Of course, this syntax doesn't work and spits out an Invalid atom error when I run emerge. Does anyone know the proper syntax for what I want to achieve? Is it even possible to acheive this? Couldn't you just name the specific packages you would like masked? == =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r9 =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 == -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] Dell 1850/Dell Partition
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 21:46 -0700, gentuxx wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Rout wrote: WHAT is at /dev/sda1? On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 19:08 -0700, Edoceo Lists wrote: List, Is at /dev/sda1. Does anyone know if I need this? Where will I put /boot? At /dev/sda2? Will GRUB work OK? I'm way nervous about blasting this thing away and replacing Dell's 65M partition with my /boot and stuffs. Help. /djb I think he's referring to the factory created restore partition. Just my 2¢, I don't think having /boot on /dev/sda2 is a problem, I agree. NO problem. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 15:21:25 up 2 days, 3:56, 7 users, load average: 1.12, 1.10, 0.81 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: gnome-spell build failing
On 9/14/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nelis Lamprecht schreef: Hi, No takers on the below error ? I've tried removing it completely, re-installing it but still get the same error. I have to skip it every time I upgrade my ports. Didn't see any bugs relating to it either. Nelis No problems here (just emerged it) Thanks for the reply Holly. I'll just wait for the next update to gnome-spell and hopefully it will fix itself. At least the older version(gnome-spell-1.0.5-r2) compiles and installs fine. Regards, Nelis -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LDAP authentification and management
Uh...why was the management in the subject line? Because I forgot yet another question: What dou you guys use for LDAP data management? I've tried quite a few tools now. app-admin/diradm seems the only usable one so far. net-nds/directoryadministrator segfaults on startup; net-nds/gq works until you actually create a connection to the server, then segfaults; net-nds/luma hangs while receiving data. net-nds/led I haven't tried yet... TIA! Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: 90CF8389 Fingerprint: 8E 1F 10 81 A4 66 29 46 B9 8A B9 E2 09 9F 3B 91 pgpMcNHI2am9q.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Sharing portage in my LAN without rsync?
Hi! Was Portage developed to work with a /usr/portage directory mounted from another computer with NFS or SMB? I did it and it worked. I thought this way could be easier than rsync when you have maybe two or three computer working with the same network-shared directory. But I noticed a poor performance even when the newtwork connection is very good. And I get messages like this: jgm jgm # emerge -upDv world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies -QA Notice: USE Flag 'userland_Darwin' not in IUSE for dev-lang/perl-5.8.7 \QA Notice: USE Flag 'elibc_uclibc' not in IUSE for sys-devel/libperl-5.8.5-r1 QA Notice: USE Flag 'elibc_uclibc' not in IUSE for sys-devel/libperl-5.8.5 QA Notice: USE Flag 'userland_Darwin' not in IUSE for sys-devel/libperl-5.8.7 -QA Notice: has_version() in global scope: dev-php/mod_php-4.4.0 QA Notice: has_version() in global scope: dev-php/mod_php-4.4.0 QA Notice: has_version() in global scope: dev-php/mod_php-4.3.11 QA Notice: has_version() in global scope: dev-php/mod_php-4.3.11 QA Notice: has_version() in global scope: dev-php/mod_php-4.4.0-r1 QA Notice: has_version() in global scope: dev-php/mod_php-4.4.0-r1 [...] What's wrong? Maybe I should think seriously about to mirror the portage directory with rsync? Is not this a good way? I have another situation. I have a Gentoo Linux running as a server. It runs also another linux inside thanks to UserMode-Linux. To avoid having two portage directories, I use hostfs (UML stuff) to share the portage between the two computers but in the Linux one where the portage is not, I get the same errors messages and the performance is so slow too! Thanks, :). -- Jes_s Garc_a Crespo (aka Sevein) http://www.sevein.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key ID: E2DB17E8 (pgp.escomposlinux.org) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LDAP authentification and management
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 13:59 +0200, Matthias Bethke wrote: Uh...why was the management in the subject line? Because I forgot yet another question: What dou you guys use for LDAP data management? I've tried quite a few tools now. app-admin/diradm seems the only usable one so far. net-nds/directoryadministrator segfaults on startup; net-nds/gq works until you actually create a connection to the server, then segfaults; net-nds/luma hangs while receiving data. net-nds/led I haven't tried yet... TIA! Matthias When I first migrated to OpenLDAP in the 1.x days, I created a bunch of home grown perl utilities to make suitable replacements for things like useradd, groupadd, passwd, etc. For new accounts we had to use our own template so that an account would be valid for both unix and smb logins. For management of existing accounts, we tried gq but found it only to be stable for reading/browsing. We installed phpldapadmin on a web server and that has worked really nicely. I know the current sysadmin continues to use that on the OpenLDAP 2.x/Samba 3.0 combination. Eric -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Printing a bunch of images files, 2 images per page
Hello. I have a bunch of ppm image files that I want to print, putting 2 images per page. How can I do that, please? Romildo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Plesk...
Hi List, Anyone ever installed Plesk onto a Gentoo server ? Can it be done and if so how did you find the install ? Got someone wanting me to install a Plesk box for them and I don't want to have to use Red-Hat Thanks in advance. Mal -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding trick portage.mask situation
My partner's computer is running the 1.0.7174 drivers, the latest that work with the TNT2 card, on gentoo-sources-2.6.13-r1 with no stability problems. It also worked fine on later the 2.6.12 revisions. That may indicate that the fault is elsewhere in your setup, or it may mean that the combination is only flakey on certain hardware, but I thought I'd let you know. Thanks for the info, that is good to know. I wouldn't be suprised if there were some other hardware issues also involved. I may try out the 2.6.13 series, though, to see if the problem persists. Matt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding trick portage.mask situation
On 9/14/05, Paul Varner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In /etc/portage/package.mask: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r4 In /etc/portage/package.unmask =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 Thanks for the help. So the atoms in package.unmask are evaluated after the atoms in package.mask? Matt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing portage in my LAN without rsync?
On 9/15/05, aka Sevein Jes__s Garc__a Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Was Portage developed to work with a /usr/portage directory mounted from another computer with NFS or SMB? I did it and it worked. I thought this way could be easier than rsync when you have maybe two or three computer working with the same network-shared directory. But I noticed a poor performance even when the newtwork connection is very good. And I get messages like this: I have a similar setup, with one portage tree shared via NFS to several computers. I have also noticed some performance drawbacks. Usually, the first time I run a command like emerge -av whatever there is a noticable delay (20-30 seconds). However, subsequent invocations of emerge start-up normally. HTH, Matt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: gnome-spell build failing
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-370684-view-next.html?sid=3955ee980f1c0f4997bf8fda92c001c9 On 9/15/05, Nelis Lamprecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nelis Lamprecht schreef: Hi, No takers on the below error ? I've tried removing it completely, re-installing it but still get the same error. I have to skip it every time I upgrade my ports. Didn't see any bugs relating to it either. Nelis No problems here (just emerged it) Thanks for the reply Holly. I'll just wait for the next update to gnome-spell and hopefully it will fix itself. At least the older version(gnome-spell-1.0.5-r2) compiles and installs fine. Regards, Nelis -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Plesk...
Mal Herring wrote: Hi List, Anyone ever installed Plesk onto a Gentoo server ? Can it be done and if so how did you find the install ? Got someone wanting me to install a Plesk box for them and I don't want to have to use Red-Hat Thanks in advance. Good luck! :) Actually, it's very difficult as Plesk relies both on knowing the location of certain files (which gentoo doesn't always keep in the same place as other distributions - apache2 being an example) and the installation of some of it's own utilities and programs (all of which come in RPM format). While it is (in the long run) possible to setup Plesk on a gentoo server, it's not supported by Plesk and it's not as simple as just downloading the RPMs and running an ebuild. AFAIK, no-one has a successful installation! I would like to try myself, but our company has too much on the go at the moment and I can't spare the time to try. Good luck though. (BTW, I use CentOS 4.1 - although ur better with 3.4, as it's a bitch to get the dependencies correct on 4.1 and upgrades are difficult.) -- Jonathan Wright ~ mail at djnauk.co.uk ~ www.djnauk.co.uk -- 2.6.12-gentoo-r9-djnauk-b1 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Mobile CPU 1.80GHz up 1:48, 2 users, load average: 1.24, 0.93, 0.60 -- A study done in the Des Moines public schools showed that the average high school student hears anti-gay comments like 'dyke' and 'faggot' a stunning 26 times a day, and that teachers who witness such incidents do nothing a shocking 97 percent of the time. The results of this kind of behavior for gay and lesbian students is terrifying. ~ Martina Navratilova -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Plesk...
Mal Herring wrote: Hi List, Anyone ever installed Plesk onto a Gentoo server ? Can it be done and if so how did you find the install ? Got someone wanting me to install a Plesk box for them and I don't want to have to use Red-Hat Thanks in advance. Mal Hi, Why not install qmail instead, there's an ebuild for it in portage plus many utilities related to qmail. See also the other response about compatibility (packages qmail depends on). HTH. Rumen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Plesk...
Rumen, Plesk isn't an MTA. http://www.sw-soft.com/en/plesk/On 9/15/05, Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Mal Herring wrote: Hi List, Anyone ever installed Plesk onto a Gentoo server ? Can it be done and if so how did you find the install ? Got someone wanting me to install a Plesk box for them and I don't want to have to use Red-Hat Thanks in advance. MalHi,Why not install qmail instead, there's an ebuild for it in portage plusmany utilities related to qmail. See also the other response aboutcompatibility (packages qmail depends on). HTH. Rumen--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] Plesk...
Mark Shields wrote: Rumen, Plesk isn't an MTA. http://www.sw-soft.com/en/plesk/ On 9/15/05, *Rumen Yotov* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mal Herring wrote: Hi List, Anyone ever installed Plesk onto a Gentoo server ? Can it be done and if so how did you find the install ? Got someone wanting me to install a Plesk box for them and I don't want to have to use Red-Hat Thanks in advance. Mal Hi, Why not install qmail instead, there's an ebuild for it in portage plus many utilities related to qmail. See also the other response about compatibility (packages qmail depends on). HTH. Rumen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- - Mark Shields Hi Mark, Thanks for the info, confess i haven't checked about Plesk, only from rare emails about it (seen them here/ML) assumed it's a qmail-clone (just customized/paid one). Just there's still no Plesk in Gentoo. Rumen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Plesk...
Mal Herring schreef: Hi List, Anyone ever installed Plesk onto a Gentoo server ? Can it be done and if so how did you find the install ? Got someone wanting me to install a Plesk box for them and I don't want to have to use Red-Hat Apparently, you don't, anymore: OS Requirements * Standard configuration of Red Hat® Linux 7.3, or 9.0 * Standard configuration of Red Hat® Enterprise Linux 2.1 (AS/ES) * Standard configuration of Red Hat® Enterprise Linux 3.0 (AS/ES) * NEW Standard configuration of Red Hat® Enterprise Linux 4.0 (AS/ES) * Standard configuration of FreeBSD® 4.9 or 5.3 * Standard configuration of SuSE® Linux 9.1 * NEW Standard configuration of SuSE® Linux 9.3 * Standard configuration of SuSE® 64bit * NEW Standard configuration of of SuSE® Linux 9.3 64bit * Standard configuration of Fedora Core 1 * Standard configuration of Fedora Core 2 * NEW Standard configuration of Fedora Core 3 * Standard configuration of CentOS 3.3 * Standard configuration of Debian 3.1 * NEW Standard configuration of Ubuntu 5.04 No Gentoo, of course, but it's still a lot more flexible than being stuck with RH Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: bad md5 sum
I wonder why I bought a computer with an ATI graphics card. I know, it was really cheap. Next time I'll bought another with an nVidia, but I can't understand why X.org drivers cannot handle damage extensions and so on with ati cards... Bye.
RE: [gentoo-user] Load Balancing / Redundant Network ?
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Olaf Niermann wrote: Maybe you can try a lookup onto 'heartbeat' (emerge -s heartbeat) allthough it might be overloaded for your needs and I personally just use it for failover between different physical servers. Just wanted to add that heartbeat is part of the HA Linux project - maybe you'll find useful stuff at their site or on their mailing lists? http://www.linux-ha.org/ Shame we dont have anything like CARP for Linux yet... (unless someone knows better?). -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] sort of OT - dev-lang/php vs dev-php/php
Hi, I am at a bit of a loss to understand the difference between the shell interpreter and the runtime engine - could someone clarify? Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hardware advice for dual-processor set-up on gentoo
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Denis wrote: So basically... I would pretty much be buying an already outdated technology if I were to purchase a dual Xeon or a dual Opteron system now? One could say that about any technology you buy ;-) I guess the other advantage is that a good dual Xeon system with 4GB RAM will run me around $3000, whereas a dual Opteron (with dual core) system with 4GB RAM will run me more like $4300. If the Opterons are currently at their memory bandwidth limit, I will have spent the $4300 for nothing, especially since I need the fastest memory integration I can get for my codes. Would I be better buying a dual Xeon system if I needed to buy right now instead of waiting for the bandwidth issue to be resolved? It has to be said: Intel have been completely outmaneuvered by AMD with respect to multicore chips. Intel have been chasing faster clock speeds with larger transister counts while AMD have been pursuing a smarter solution IMHO. I think it will be awhile before Intel starting cranking out decent dual-core chips. Dont forget AMD have quad-core chips in the pipeline too so they will be maintaining their lead for awhile. As far as multicore support in boards go, last time I looked, Tyan seemed to be in the lead with this. They have a quad-cpu board (effectively 8 cores when using dual-core chips - each chip has its own memory slots with up to 4 or 8Gb per CPU). Tyan also now have a way of connecting two quad-cpu boards together allowing you to build a 16-core Opteron system. You could always buy a quad-core board and just keep adding CPU's to upgrade and eventually add the second board when you need more CPU ;-) -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] lvm2 and RAID
Anybody using lvm2 and RAID together on the same partitions? Can anyone detail how to create such a setup? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: bad md5 sum
On 9/14/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would have done it months ago, Mike, if there was any way, but I reallyhave absolutely no budget, even for an MX440 (true desperation, if I'm even considering an MX 440 in this day and age. But I'd rather that thana 5200, all things considered. I know not everyone can afford a nVidia card... I was just giving you a hard time. It is worth noting though that nVidia on Linux is so easy. If anyone is building a new Linux box I wouldn't go with ATI, but then again I am biased against ATI. What I'd really like -- a 6600-- is rightout). If you're gonna spend that much money go all the way for a 6800 its well worth the cash. I may wind up putting my Matrox G400 Max back in here, but Wine issoo close on DX 9 (which the G400 of course does not support) that I can't bear it. Wine and DX9... I find this very interesting, where did you hear that? How would I follow that development? I am really hoping to see DX9 support in Wine so I can finally run some of the games I had to give up when jumping from Windoze. -Mike-- Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationLinux, because reboots are for installing hardware.In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?
Re: [gentoo-user] sort of OT - dev-lang/php vs dev-php/php
On 9/15/05, Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,I am at a bit of a loss to understand the difference between the shellinterpreter and the runtime engine - could someone clarify? CheersAntoine The runtime engine allows you to embed PHP scripting ability into programswhile the CLI allows you to run PHP scripts from the command line. Basically, you can't interact with the runtime engine you need the CLI orApache module or something else to interact with PHP directly. -Mike-- Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationLinux, because reboots are for installing hardware.In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm2 and RAID
I did it with EVMS. I created the raid, then lvm on it. It's been a while so I don't remember the details. If you're not using EVMS you can create the raid, then apply LVM to do what you want. From: A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/15 Thu PM 02:30:42 EDT To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] lvm2 and RAID Anybody using lvm2 and RAID together on the same partitions? Can anyone detail how to create such a setup? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdk build error
On Thursday 15 September 2005 12:44 pm, Aleksandr Guidrevitch wrote: Hi there, I get the following error while `emerge -uD world`: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/../../../crtn.o: No such file or directory make: *** [libcdk.la] Error 1 I have 3.3.6 installed. I've also run `fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5` but it doesn't help Sincerely, Aleksandr Guidrevitch Try rebuilding libtool, then do fix_libtool_files.sh again. Then try your emerge -uD world again. Sometimes that seems to be required. If that doesn't work, have you also kept up with doing revdep-rebuild after big emerges- that might contribute to the problem too. (use the -p option first to see what you are dealing with). Robert Crawford -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm2 and RAID
I have such a setup. It was fairly easy to do. For the LVM2 part, just follow this howto: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/lvm2.xml For the raid part, the documentation you need is here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-tipsntricks.xml#software-raid The trick to getting it all to work together is doing the raid setup first and then using the /dev/md* devices for the LVM2 setup. If you have any questions, feel free to email me. Carl Flippin On 9/15/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody using lvm2 and RAID together on the same partitions? Can anyone detail how to create such a setup? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: bad md5 sum [SOLVED]
Michael Crute schreef: On 9/14/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would have done it months ago, Mike, if there was any way, but I really have absolutely no budget, even for an MX440 (true desperation, if I'm even considering an MX 440 in this day and age. But I'd rather that than a 5200, all things considered. I know not everyone can afford a nVidia card... I was just giving you a hard time. It is worth noting though that nVidia on Linux is so easy. If anyone is building a new Linux box I wouldn't go with ATI, but then again I am biased against ATI. What I'd really like -- a 6600-- is right out). If you're gonna spend that much money go all the way for a 6800 its well worth the cash. Thanks for the tip. I may wind up putting my Matrox G400 Max back in here, but Wine is soo close on DX 9 (which the G400 of course does not support) that I can't bear it. Wine and DX9... I find this very interesting, where did you hear that? How would I follow that development? I am really hoping to see DX9 support in Wine so I can finally run some of the games I had to give up when jumping from Windoze. -Mike I subscribe to the wine-devel mailing list (as well as wine-users). There's an IRC channel as well, I think (you can find out on the Wine site, http://www.winehq.org , as well as how to subscribe to either, both, or more of the lists, like wine-bugs,. or wine-patches), but I hate IRC almost as much as I hate IM, so I don't usually go there. I would, if I could write a patch, though :) . You might also consider getting wine from cvs, which might have some of the uncommitted patches there, and Oliver Steiber (who's doing most of the work on DX9 support) has a homepage for his work at http://directxwine.sourceforge.net/ . Nice thing is he seems to have an ATI card as well, so I'm hopeful that when the work does get committed, it will work well with the ATI card (and maybe I'll be able to finish Myst 4 and Uru, not to mention play the Sims 2, although I recently managed to get the original Sims installed and running, so I might not get too worried about the sequel. Being able to play NWN 2 -- if it's not native, which I haven't checked yet-- and The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion when they come out would be very, very nice, though). Since you have an nVidia card, you might also consider Cedega, which runs a lot of DX9 games already (up to 9.0b, I think). If you have another way to install them other than via the installer (like previously installed on a Windows partition), you should be able to use Cedega's CVS version (free). Or, of course, you could subscribe (5 USD p/m, 3 month minimum) for the full monty (InstallShield support, current version of the program, Point2Play, the graphical install and management utility, support, ability to vote on what they work on supporting next, ability to post on the forums, etc). I don't so much like Cedega as opposed to Wine, because Wine tends to work on 'global' issues (getting DirectX 9 working, for example), which I consider 'normal', wheras Transgaming tends to work on 'getting the game-of-the-week running, no matter what else breaks by doing so', but hey, if you want to play HL2, and that's all you want, then Cedega is definitely an option though not so much if you have an ATI card. I know of at least two games that supposedly run perfectly under Cedega with nVidia cards, but run like trash with my ATI card (severe graphical corruption), and in fact the Cedega release notes mention several games that they support which do not run, or run with severe problems specifically when using ATI cards. Oh, and btw, the original issue of this thread is [SOLVED], I updated today and it went through fine. Haven't restarted X yet, though. But afaik, the update isn't for me so much anyway (Gentoo changelog indicates -r5 fixes some bug in 64-bit), but since there seems to be a revision in the RPM as well, there might be some unmentioned improvements for 32-bit users as well. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm2 and RAID
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:25:14 -0700, Carl Flippin wrote: The trick to getting it all to work together is doing the raid setup first and then using the /dev/md* devices for the LVM2 setup. I did something similar here. By creating the RAID first, you only need to RAID one large partition. -- Neil Bothwick Seduced by the Chocolate side of the Force... pgpUNnoZGGtiu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Load Balancing / Redundant Network ?
On Thursday 15 September 2005 19:08, A. Khattri wrote: Shame we dont have anything like CARP for Linux yet... (unless someone knows better?). UCARP, but it's fundamentally flawed, as iptables has no method to keep state tables in sync between machines. Personally, I prefer to have iptables set up to allow traffic over connections that are already established. This way you can swap firewalls (and update arp), reboot them, etc, without interupting the connection. Far from perfect, but it works to a degree. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] mailman stopped working after upgrade
Okay. Last night I ripped out every 'mailman' directory and file I could find. Unmerged mailman. Backed up my lists. And re-emerged mailman. Same f'n problem. WTF?! Sep 15 13:31:17 [Mailman mail-wrapper] Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail_wrapper script to be executed as group mailman, but_the system's mail server executed the mail script as_group mail. Try tweaking the mail server to run the_script as group mailman, or re-run configure, _providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=mail'._ Sep 15 13:31:17 [exim] 2005-09-15 13:31:17 1EG0O5-0005FA-EW ** |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post rbc [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=system_aliases T=address_pipe: Child process of address_pipe transport returned 2 from command: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman Upgrading from version 0x to 0x20105f0 getting rid of old source files no lists == nothing to do, exiting * Running `/usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f` * directory must be at least 02775: /usr/local/mailman/logs (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/local/mailman/lists (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/local/mailman/locks (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/local/mailman/spam (fixing) directory permissions must be 02770: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles (fixing) ... daevid portage-logs # /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f No problems found daevid portage-logs # su mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/tmp/portage-logs $ /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f No problems found -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] mailman stopped working after upgrade
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 13:46 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: Okay. Last night I ripped out every 'mailman' directory and file I could find. Unmerged mailman. Backed up my lists. And re-emerged mailman. Same f'n problem. WTF?! Sep 15 13:31:17 [Mailman mail-wrapper] Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail_wrapper script to be executed as group mailman, but_the system's mail server executed the mail script as_group mail. Try tweaking the mail server to run the_script as group mailman, or re-run configure, _providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=mail'._ Sep 15 13:31:17 [exim] 2005-09-15 13:31:17 1EG0O5-0005FA-EW ** |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post rbc [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=system_aliases T=address_pipe: Child process of address_pipe transport returned 2 from command: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman Upgrading from version 0x to 0x20105f0 getting rid of old source files no lists == nothing to do, exiting * Running `/usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f` * directory must be at least 02775: /usr/local/mailman/logs (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/local/mailman/lists (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/local/mailman/locks (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/local/mailman/spam (fixing) directory permissions must be 02770: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles (fixing) ... daevid portage-logs # /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f No problems found daevid portage-logs # su mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/tmp/portage-logs $ /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f No problems found I'm not sure if I understand your problem correctly - I haven't been following this particular thread (sorry!), but it sounds like you're having a similar problem to one I had awhile ago. Here is the response I got that fixed it: Michael, I've had the same problem before. In order for Mailman to work properly, it has to know the gid of the mail program at compile time. In this case it was told the mail program's gid was that of group mailman, but when the script was executed it was with the gid of group deamon. The easiest way I've found (and possibly the only?) to fix it is to use vigr to get the gid of the daemon group, then edit the mailman ebuild file. Right near the top of the file is an option for setting the mail-gid. Change that number to the one you found from vigr, then re-emerge mailman. Keep in mind that you'll have to repeat this procedure every time you upgrade mailman because the new ebuild won't have your changes in it. Bryan - Transcript of session follows - Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group mailman, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group daemon. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mailman, or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=daemon'. 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Load Balancing / Redundant Network ?
Mal Herring wrote: Hi List, Been looking on forums.gentoo.org looking for a way to pair two NIC's so that should the primary fail, the secondary takes over... The situation is this: 8 HP DL380G4's all running Gentoo moving into a data centre rack, the firewall is currently a Netscreen(Juniper) 25 and another will be added to give us Active/Passive failover on the firewalls. Redundant switches will be added behind the firewalls to ensure that is not a single point of failure, all the DL380 have two NIC's in them and currently only one is active. All boxes covered with HP on a 24x7x4 Carepaq, redundant power supplies to be added - DC is a N+1 so fine there... Biggest issue I am facing and becoming lost on is teaming the NIC's so I can connect NIC1 to Switch 1 and NIC2 to switch 2 etc... I've got three scenarios which may work, but none are close to perfect. 1. Take the hit. Build your setup with enough extra capacity that losing a switch and all the machines behind it won't cause downtime. The pros are it's easy, failover isn't complicated, but you may need more machines than you have now. 2. Routers routers everywhere Run a routing daemon on each server. Real interfaces become /30 links and the server daemons run on a loopback address. The end effect is that there are two paths to your loopback, OSPF converges quickly, and src IP's and arp addresses never change. The cons is that it's complicated and there are a thousand and one ways to shoot yourself in the foot. 3. local VRRP Set eth0 as .2 and eth1 as .3 and then have them collude to make .1. Assuming things fail in such a way that eth0 fails completely then .3 should take over as the primary interface and take .1 with it. Better machine use, less complicated than OSPF everywhere, but I'm not sure it'll work. I suspect that eth0 and eth1 will stay up as far as the local machine is concerned and won't move the virtual IP around. None of these ideas are great, but might get you thinking about something that might work. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arkady Grudzinsky wrote: I would compare GUI to helper wheels for bycicles. You may need them if you can't ride, but once you know how to ride they start limiting you and getting in your way. In my experience, time spent to learn the text interface is much better invested than time spent to learn which button to push, which box to check and where the menu item is located. Text commands combined with the arsenal of standard UNIX tools (awk, sed, Perl, piping, regular expressions, output redirection, shell scripting, job scheduling) are way more powerful and flexible than any imaginable GUI. Image processing tools are exceptions (to certain extent) to which portage does not belong. Just an opinion... (you asked for one). Yes, I did ask for an opinion. :-) Just for the record, this isn't an issue of not being able to use the command line. I *love* the command line. That's one of a number of reasons that I moved to Linux. :-) However, I am still learning Gentoo and haven't yet figured out all the nuances of portage. I was just curious to find out if anyone had tried the program. I was not necessarily suggesting that I was about to jump on the bandwagon. Thanks for the opinions. As of now, I think I'll just stick to learning portage! :-) Regards, Colleen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDKeuW7FsR4jhcRJoRAnKFAKCDbB4xUxH2XQe02ozhL6xOwOJUFwCbBmpG NueM6ndzRTlHFg22MoLWNs0= =RPHq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] named init-script error
$ /etc/init.d/named start
* Starting named ...
usage: named [-4|-6] [-c conffile] [-d debuglevel] [-f|-g] [-n
number_of_cpus]
[-p port] [-s] [-t chrootdir] [-u username]
[-m {usage|trace|record}]
named: extra command line arguments
What do you think about it?
What do you have in /etc/conf.d/named?
What version of bind are we talking about?
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Re: [gentoo-user] named init-script error
What do you have in /etc/conf.d/named? OPTIONS= CPU=1 What version of bind are we talking about? net-dns/bind-9.3.1-r4 -- Best Regards Piotr Jaroszynski -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions?
On Thursday 15 September 2005 08:13, Arkady Grudzinsky wrote: I would compare GUI to helper wheels for bycicles. You may need them if you can't ride, but once you know how to ride they start limiting you and getting in your way. In my experience, time spent to learn the text interface is much better invested than time spent to learn which button to push, which box to check and where the menu item is located. Text commands combined with the arsenal of standard UNIX tools (awk, sed, Perl, piping, regular expressions, output redirection, shell scripting, job scheduling) are way more powerful and flexible than any imaginable GUI. Image processing tools are exceptions (to certain extent) to which portage does not belong. Just an opinion... (you asked for one). well, some of the guis have the advantage, that you can see easily, which packets are installed, or have the descriptions readily there. That is sometimes usefull. But most of the time - yes. the guis are not needed in any way ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions?
Christoph Eckert schreef: GUI != ease of use :-) :-) :-) :-) See, statements like this are why 'the average user' says that Linux is only for geeks. :-) :-) :-) :-) What in the bloody blue blazes does != mean? :-) :-) :-) :-) I would guess that it means 'not equal to', and is typed this way because either 1) that's what programmers use, and we *are* all geeks (except me, obviously) and/or 2) the symbol of an equal sign with a slash through it (the standard mathematical/scientific symbol that 'the average user' might reasonably be expected to know from school) cannot be typed easily from most keyboards. But really... talk normal, please. :-) :-) :-) :-) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] named init-script error
What version of bind are we talking about? net-dns/bind-9.3.1-r4 Well, this version is masked, maybe for this reason? I'm running 9.2.5-r6, the latest stable, and do not have this issue... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Plesk...
Then what is it? A quick look at the web site tells me how good it is, but not what it does? One of the faq questions deals with email. Its a control panel - but for what. They mention things like skinning it, but not what does plex do ... BillK On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 12:39 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: Rumen, Plesk isn't an MTA. http://www.sw-soft.com/en/plesk/ On 9/15/05, Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mal Herring wrote: -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions?
Christoph Eckert schreef: To be honest, this has nothing to do with command line or not. I use a great command line script called unp. It unpacks any archive format without knowing the options of the various packing tools. Simply type »unp FILENAME« and you're done. Like it. Oh, and thanks for the tip. Unp looks quite useful (and takes about 10 seconds to emerge, which is also neat). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions?
On Thursday 15 September 2005 19:20, Holly Bostick wrote: :-) :-) :-) :-) I would guess that it means 'not equal to', and is typed this way because either 1) that's what programmers use, and we *are* all geeks (except me, obviously) and/or 2) the symbol of an equal sign with a slash through it (the standard mathematical/scientific symbol that 'the average user' might reasonably be expected to know from school) cannot be typed easily from most keyboards. You understood what it means = you are geek And don't try to avoid been called geek by using those fancy smileys. ;) []'s Mauro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions?
Mauro Faccenda schreef: You understood what it means = you are geek And don't try to avoid been called geek by using those fancy smileys. ;) Drat! And I would have got away with it, too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids .!!! Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Plesk...
On Thursday 15 September 2005 23:28, W.Kenworthy wrote: Then what is it? A quick look at the web site tells me how good it is, but not what it does? One of the faq questions deals with email. Its a control panel - but for what. They mention things like skinning it, but not what does plex do ... It's a control panel, for a server. Mail, DNS, virtual hosting, etc, etc. Something akin to webmin/usermin. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Help with Script that sends out HTML emails
Hi,
I'm writing a bash script that basically checks for stocks prices and I
want the formatted output to be mailed to me. I've got the script
working already. The only problem is the HTML is well, not displayed as
HTML, it's displayed RAW(and not formatted).
I'm using cron to send the email out.
I've even put the echo statement :
html_header()
{
echo Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
echo HTMLHEADTITLEStock Quotes : $DATE /TITLE/HEAD
echo 'STYLE TYPE=TEXT/CSS'
echo h1 {color: gray; border-bottom: 3px double silver}
echo h2,h3 {color: gray; border-bottom: 1px solid silver}
echo /STYLE/HEAD
echo BODY
echo H1Stock Quotes : $DATE /H1
echo BRBR
}
but all I get is :
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
HTMLHEADTITLEStock Quotes : Fri Sep 16 06:52:02 2005
/TITLE/HEAD
STYLE TYPE=TEXT/CSS
h1 {color: gray; border-bottom: 3px double silver}
h2,h3 {color: gray; border-bottom: 1px solid silver}
/STYLE/HEAD
BODY
H1Stock Quotes : Fri Sep 16 06:52:02 2005 /H1
BRBR
What sort of content-type do I need to put into it? or do I have to
format the message and use sendmail -t quote
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Re: [gentoo-user] hardware advice for dual-processor set-up on gentoo
On 9/12/05, Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intel's compiler fairly cheap - approx. $600.Free for non-commericalhome use. This is the first time I heard of intel compilers and I am using dual 3.2 GHz irwindales with 1 mb cache each and 2 GB of ram. Is there any advantage to using these compilers over GCC? What performance gain can I expect? And more on topic: the dual 3.2 GHz irwindales run like a charm. I think that installing my entire system from stage 1 to full gnome took approximately 5 hours in compile time.
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Script that sends out HTML emails
On Friday 16 September 2005 00:07, Ow Mun Heng wrote: I'm writing a bash script that basically checks for stocks prices and I want the formatted output to be mailed to me. I've got the script working already. The only problem is the HTML is well, not displayed as HTML, it's displayed RAW(and not formatted). I'm using cron to send the email out. I don't think it'll ever work. The problem is you need to add the content type to the headers. Mutt has an option to specify a draft file to read header and body from, but seems to lose/re-write the content-type. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hardware advice for dual-processor set-up on gentoo
After a google search, it seems like the ICC compiler compiles faster and runs certain programs better. Gentoo has a package, can anyone say if the ICC compiler has any issues compiling common packages such as the gentoo base packages, gnome, or kde?
Re: [gentoo-user] hardware advice for dual-processor set-up on gentoo
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:27:08 -0400 - - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the first time I heard of intel compilers and I am using dual 3.2GHz irwindales with 1 mb cache each and 2 GB of ram. Is there any advantage to using these compilers over GCC? What performance gain can I expect? It depends. Straight compiles with no-optimization has shown them to be faster in some case and slower in others. If you have a specific application set that you can actually hand code a few things, the Intel compilers will take advantage of most of the features, gcc doesn't optimize. Some folks have gone with the Intel compilers for the entire system, but I've not heard of any reported results from their efforts. You can go over the SpecOrg and look at the results of the INT/FP results. All the Intel results are with the Intel compilers. Look at the test make up - which programs they used for testing, and see if it matches your workload. Then run the same thing on your currect system to see if it comes close or wildly different. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: bad md5 sum [SOLVED]
On 9/15/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip of some useful info about DX9 on Wine.HollyThanks for the info. I'm gonna try the free DX for Wine as soon as I get home. -Mike-- Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationLinux, because reboots are for installing hardware.In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions?
On 9/15/05, C. Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I am still learning Gentoo and haven't yet figured out allthe nuances of portage.I was just curious to find out if anyone hadtried the program.I was not necessarily suggesting that I was aboutto jump on the bandwagon. IMO if you want to learn Portage there is no better way than the command line. Check out the man pages and the online resources then use the command line. The problem with trying to learning a tool using a gui is that it does all the command work for you and you are none the wiser. -Mike -- Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationLinux, because reboots are for installing hardware.In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Script that sends out HTML emails
It seems to me that you need a couple of other things:
1. a look at a couple of the html emails in my inbox show a mail
header (ie part of the email where stuff like from, to and subject go) like
this:
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C5B8D9.821B04F0
you can add extra headers using the mail command with the -a parameter
(according to man mail)
-a Specify additional header fields on the command line such as X-Loop:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. You have to use
quotes if the string contains spaces. This argument may be
specified more than once, the headers
will then be concatenated.
2. The body of the message must be in mime format using the same boundary as
is specified in the header like this:
--_=_NextPart_001_01C5B8D9.821B04F0
Content-Type: text/plain
(here is the text part of the message)
--_=_NextPart_001_01C5B8D9.821B04F0
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN
HTML (all the html bits)
/HTML
below that the boundary is specified again:
--_=_NextPart_001_01C5B8D9.821B04F0--
(thats the very last line in the file)
3. i tried using mpack to make an html message from the command line,
but it didn't work - I might be doing something wrong.
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:07:23 +0800
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
Hi,
I'm writing a bash script that basically checks for stocks prices and I
want the formatted output to be mailed to me. I've got the script
working already. The only problem is the HTML is well, not displayed as
HTML, it's displayed RAW(and not formatted).
I'm using cron to send the email out.
I've even put the echo statement :
html_header()
{
echo Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
echo HTMLHEADTITLEStock Quotes : $DATE /TITLE/HEAD
echo 'STYLE TYPE=TEXT/CSS'
echo h1 {color: gray; border-bottom: 3px double silver}
echo h2,h3 {color: gray; border-bottom: 1px solid silver}
echo /STYLE/HEAD
echo BODY
echo H1Stock Quotes : $DATE /H1
echo BRBR
}
but all I get is :
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
HTMLHEADTITLEStock Quotes : Fri Sep 16 06:52:02 2005
/TITLE/HEAD
STYLE TYPE=TEXT/CSS
h1 {color: gray; border-bottom: 3px double silver}
h2,h3 {color: gray; border-bottom: 1px solid silver}
/STYLE/HEAD
BODY
H1Stock Quotes : Fri Sep 16 06:52:02 2005 /H1
BRBR
What sort of content-type do I need to put into it? or do I have to
format the message and use sendmail -t quote
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Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM
98% Microsoft(tm) Free!!
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0.49, 0.52
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Script that sends out HTML emails
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:07:23AM +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: Hi, I'm writing a bash script that basically checks for stocks prices and I want the formatted output to be mailed to me. I've got the script working already. The only problem is the HTML is well, not displayed as HTML, it's displayed RAW(and not formatted). I'm using cron to send the email out. Try using the mail command behold the power of google: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/171 to put it simply: mail -a Content-type: text/html; -s Your Daily Stock Quote [EMAIL PROTECTED] filename.html HTH W -- I know that there are people in this world who do not love their fellow man, and I HATE people like that. -- Tom Lehrer Sortir en Pantoufles: up 35 days, 3:49 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printing a bunch of images files, 2 images per page
Hi romildo, on Thursday, 2005-09-15 at 09:47:53, you wrote: I have a bunch of ppm image files that I want to print, putting 2 images per page. How can I do that, please? If you know LaTeX, you could try writing a shellscript that prints a LaTeX document that includes two images per page, run this through TeX and print the resulting postscript. Or there might be something in the netpbm package...untested: ( for f in $*; do anytopnm $f; done ) | pnmtops -setpage=a4 | \ psnup -n 2 | lp HTH Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: 90CF8389 Fingerprint: 8E 1F 10 81 A4 66 29 46 B9 8A B9 E2 09 9F 3B 91 pgp9BeRjZNyMJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] hardware advice for dual-processor set-up on gentoo
I read AnandTech. And many other reviews by now. But since I've been out of hardware buying venture for a long time, I figured I'd read up on the specs directly from the manufacturers' websites first and then the reviews. I can't say I am handy with different relationships between front size bus speeds, system clock, and memory transfer rates. The point that Bob brought up about memory bus limitations was very specific and only appeared in a couple reviews that I could locate when I knew what to look for. The general spirit seems to proclaim AMD ahead of the game, leaving Intel in the dust. However, there are things where Intel is still ahead - such as areas of specialized scientific computing, for example. For example, I can get a 4-thread capability much cheaper from Intel than from AMD, thanks to their much-criticized HyperThreading technology. Hyperthreading has been excellent for my particular application of computing. So, if I can build a good Intel workstation with will give me 4 threads for around $2,000 instead of a similar AMD workstation with 4 threads for over $3,500 - then I'd rather stick to Intel on my budget. At least for now. Perhaps, in a year or so, I'll migrate to AMD if Intel hasn't come up with something suitable for my computing needs for a reasonable price. I am sure many people will disagree with what I am saying here, and I am not trying to start a flame war over preferences, but in the case of highly multithreaded computing in my case, this solution seems to make sense right now. For people with less specific needs, a dual AMD box with single-core processors would probably make more sense on the same budget. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printing a bunch of images files, 2 images per page
Hi gentoo-user, on Friday, 2005-09-16 at 02:54:33, you wrote: Or there might be something in the netpbm package... Uh...silly me! I overlooked the part where you said they're PPM already. So just skip the anytopnm :) cheers! Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: 90CF8389 Fingerprint: 8E 1F 10 81 A4 66 29 46 B9 8A B9 E2 09 9F 3B 91 pgpWjWhw1hIKs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Script that sends out HTML emails [SOLVED]
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 20:47 -0400, Willie Wong wrote: On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:07:23AM +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: Hi, I'm writing a bash script that basically checks for stocks prices and I want the formatted output to be mailed to me. I've got the script working already. The only problem is the HTML is well, not displayed as HTML, it's displayed RAW(and not formatted). I'm using cron to send the email out. Try using the mail command behold the power of google: I did, but obviously searching for bash script + email + HTML + format doesn't yield anything since it can't be done(?) http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/171 to put it simply: mail -a Content-type: text/html; -s Your Daily Stock Quote [EMAIL PROTECTED] filename.html I tried that. It worked perfectly. Only thing now, I'll have to hack the script to put the output into a file and send our the file instead of using cron. Should be a simple thing. Thanks. HTH W -- I know that there are people in this world who do not love their fellow man, and I HATE people like that. -- Tom Lehrer Sortir en Pantoufles: up 35 days, 3:49 -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 09:14:16 up 2 days, 21:48, 7 users, load average: 1.55, 1.10, 2.36 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Script that sends out HTML emails [SOLVED]
On Sep 15, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 20:47 -0400, Willie Wong wrote: On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:07:23AM +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: Hi, I'm writing a bash script that basically checks for stocks prices and I want the formatted output to be mailed to me. I've got the script working already. The only problem is the HTML is well, not displayed as HTML, it's displayed RAW(and not formatted). I'm using cron to send the email out. Try using the mail command behold the power of google: I did, but obviously searching for bash script + email + HTML + format doesn't yield anything since it can't be done(?) http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/171 to put it simply: mail -a Content-type: text/html; -s Your Daily Stock Quote [EMAIL PROTECTED] filename.html I tried that. It worked perfectly. Only thing now, I'll have to hack the script to put the output into a file and send our the file instead of using cron. Should be a simple thing. Thanks. HTH W -- I know that there are people in this world who do not love their fellow man, and I HATE people like that. -- Tom Lehrer Sortir en Pantoufles: up 35 days, 3:49 -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 09:14:16 up 2 days, 21:48, 7 users, load average: 1.55, 1.10, 2.36 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list you could also write a small perl script to actually send the emailI send out a newsletter that way every week. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Script that sends out HTML emails [SOLVED]
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 20:30 -0500, John Jolet wrote: On Sep 15, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 20:47 -0400, Willie Wong wrote: On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:07:23AM +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: Hi, I'm writing a bash script that basically checks for stocks prices and I want the formatted output to be mailed to me. I've got the script working already. The only problem is the HTML is well, not displayed as HTML, it's displayed RAW(and not formatted). I'm using cron to send the email out. Try using the mail command http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/171 to put it simply: mail -a Content-type: text/html; -s Your Daily Stock Quote [EMAIL PROTECTED] filename.html I tried that. It worked perfectly. Only thing now, I'll have to hack the script to put the output into a file and send our the file instead of using cron. Should be a simple thing. you could also write a small perl script to actually send the emailI send out a newsletter that way every week. That's what I just did.. $ cat cron_fetch_stock.sh #!/bin/bash # TEMPFILE=/tmp/file.$$ PORTFOLIO_SCRIPT=$HOME/scripts/portfolio.sh $PORTFOLIO_SCRIPT --html $TEMPFILE 2/dev/null1 mail -a Content-Type: text/html -s Stock Quotes `date +%c` $TEMPFILE gentoo rm $TEMPFILE -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 09:42:48 up 2 days, 22:17, 7 users, load average: 1.06, 0.86, 1.06 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Script that sends out HTML emails [SOLVED]
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:43:50 +0800 Ow Mun Heng wrote: That's what I just did.. $ cat cron_fetch_stock.sh #!/bin/bash # TEMPFILE=/tmp/file.$$ PORTFOLIO_SCRIPT=$HOME/scripts/portfolio.sh $PORTFOLIO_SCRIPT --html $TEMPFILE 2/dev/null1 mail -a Content-Type: text/html -s Stock Quotes `date +%c` $TEMPFILE gentoo rm $TEMPFILE whats wrong with : $PORTFOLIO_SCRIPT --html 2/dev/null | mail -a Content-Type: text/html -s Stock Quotes `date +%c` Assuming $PORTFOLIO_SCRIPT outputs to stdout (it should). -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Clarification of packages cd's for 2005.1
I am looking at building a box this weekend. I want to use 2005.1 and if possible the packages cd (for a quick result) . I have an athlon 1133. The package cd's don't seem to have an athlon version any more. the choices seem to be alpha amd64 ppc (32 bit) ppc (64 bit) sparc64 x86. Is it true that the packagers have abandoned p3, p4 and athlon-*?? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clarification of packages cd's for 2005.1
On Friday 16 September 2005 03:11, Nick Rout wrote: I am looking at building a box this weekend. I want to use 2005.1 and if possible the packages cd (for a quick result) . I have an athlon 1133. The package cd's don't seem to have an athlon version any more. the choices seem to be alpha amd64 ppc (32 bit) ppc (64 bit) sparc64 x86. Is it true that the packagers have abandoned p3, p4 and athlon-*?? http://tracker.netdomination.org/ appears to have them, but I too find it odd they aren't listed elsewhere. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Doubts about how to create a free software project
Hi everyone, I work with biotech and for about an 1 year I've been working on a web interface for genome/proteome data analysis. And I'd like to make it free software. But I still have doubts about legal problems I might face and about intellectual property. Basically, I don't want to restrict people on using and contributing with source or whatever, but don't want anyone taking credit for my work or pateting it and sending me a cease-and-desist letter. If anyone has any insight, references or links on this subject, please let me know. Thanks for the attention, Raphael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clarification of packages cd's for 2005.1
Is it true that the packagers have abandoned p3, p4 and athlon-*?? I don't know about that, Nick, but if you can't find the p3, p4, or athlon packages I can tell you that distcc will be your best friend ;-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Script [SOLVED] + Help Make it more efficient
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 14:03 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:43:50 +0800
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
That's what I just did..
$ cat cron_fetch_stock.sh
#!/bin/bash
#
TEMPFILE=/tmp/file.$$
PORTFOLIO_SCRIPT=$HOME/scripts/portfolio.sh
$PORTFOLIO_SCRIPT --html $TEMPFILE 2/dev/null1 mail -a
Content-Type: text/html -s Stock Quotes `date +%c` $TEMPFILE
gentoo rm $TEMPFILE
whats wrong with :
$PORTFOLIO_SCRIPT --html 2/dev/null | mail -a Content-Type: text/html -s
Stock Quotes `date +%c`
Assuming $PORTFOLIO_SCRIPT outputs to stdout (it should).
That worked too. I could've sworn I tried that but it didn't work. Oh
well, It works now anyway :-)
More than 1 way to skin a cat.
The other issue with my script is the actual script that parses
screen-scrapes. Initial script only went to get the Last Price now, I
would like to add the Day Range
last_price()
{
value=$(lynx -dump $url$symbol | grep 'Last price:' | \
awk -F: 'NF 1 $(NF) != N/A { print $(NF) }' )
}
day_range()
{
day_range=$(lynx -dump $url$symbol | grep 'Low \ High:' | \
awk -F: 'NF 1 $(NF) != N/A { print $(NF) }' )
}
The above is in-efficient because I need to call the script to get the
page 2 times.
Doing a
lynx -dump $url$symbol | egrep -i '(Last Price|Low \ High)'| awk -F:
'NF 1 $(NF) != N/A { print $(NF) }'
will work, but then, there will be 2 values associated with it :
7.35
7.127 - 7.38
Can anyone help with a better awk script so that each value will be
associated with each line?
eg:
last_price=7.35
day_range=7.127 - 7.38
w/o actually piping the lynx output to a file (actually, that would be
the easy way)
On the other hand, how does one use awk for multigreps like egrep '(pop|
test)'
I've tried variation of
1. awk /Low High/
2. awk /Low High/ /Last/
3. awk '{/Low High/ /Last/}'
all of which doesn't work except for No. 1
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[gentoo-user] Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version
Hi Simple problem, simple answer I'm sure. Not clear to me ex-list or google. Trying to emerge svgalib-1.9.21 get following error: Could not detect kernel version Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to complete set of kernel sources Function linux-info_pkg_setup line 521 Exitcode 1 Unable to calculate linux kernel version Link is in place: /usr/src/- linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r4 /usr/src/linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r4 exists .config exists in this directory modversion.h exists in /usr/src/linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r4/include/ What more can I do? Any help appreciated. Bogo -- Sent via KMail 1.8.0, o/s Linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r4 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 15:42 +1200, Bogo Mipps wrote: Hi Simple problem, simple answer I'm sure. Not clear to me ex-list or google. Trying to emerge svgalib-1.9.21 get following error: Could not detect kernel version Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to complete set of kernel sources Function linux-info_pkg_setup line 521 Exitcode 1 Unable to calculate linux kernel version Link is in place: /usr/src/- linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r4 Did you miss type? /usr/src/linux - linux-2.6.13-suspend2-r1/ -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 11:53:14 up 3 days, 27 min, 8 users, load average: 1.96, 1.28, 0.94 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
