[gentoo-user] swiching from gnome to gnome-light

2007-02-25 Thread JC D
Hi!

I am planning of switching from gnome to gnome-light. How can I unmerge gnome 
and in particular remove all packages like games, gnumeric, abiword and so on. 
I found that I actually do not use them so I think gnome-light should be enough.

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Re: [gentoo-user] swiching from gnome to gnome-light

2007-02-25 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 25 February 2007, JC D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] swiching from gnome to gnome-light':
 I am planning of switching from gnome to gnome-light. How can I unmerge
 gnome and in particular remove all packages like games, gnumeric,
 abiword and so on. I found that I actually do not use them so I think
 gnome-light should be enough.

emerge -C gnome
emerge gnome-light
emerge -a --depclean

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Re: [gentoo-user] swiching from gnome to gnome-light

2007-02-25 Thread Vikas Kumar
On 03:14 Sun 25 Feb , Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Sunday 25 February 2007, JC D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 about '[gentoo-user] swiching from gnome to gnome-light':
  I am planning of switching from gnome to gnome-light. How can I unmerge
  gnome and in particular remove all packages like games, gnumeric,
  abiword and so on. I found that I actually do not use them so I think
  gnome-light should be enough.
 
 emerge -C gnome
 emerge gnome-light
 emerge -a --depclean
 
and,
revdep-rebuild


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

2007-02-25 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Dale wrote:
 I wonder if someone needs to
 tell the programmer for portage that kwrite doesn't like those
 *** in there at all?  Should I file it as a bug?

Of course not.  If anything, it's a bug in KWrite.  Why are you 
using KWrite anyway to look at the emerge log?  Why not use 
something like Kuroo?  Or else qlop (from portage-utils)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

2007-02-25 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 25 February 2007 13:08:34 Benno Schulenberg wrote:
  I wonder if someone needs to
  tell the programmer for portage that kwrite doesn't like those
  *** in there at all?  Should I file it as a bug?

 Of course not.  If anything, it's a bug in KWrite.  Why are you
 using KWrite anyway to look at the emerge log?  Why not use
 something like Kuroo?  Or else qlop (from portage-utils)?

Or app-portage/genlop.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

2007-02-25 Thread Dale
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 On Sunday 25 February 2007 13:08:34 Benno Schulenberg wrote:
   
 I wonder if someone needs to
 tell the programmer for portage that kwrite doesn't like those
 *** in there at all?  Should I file it as a bug?
   
 Of course not.  If anything, it's a bug in KWrite.  Why are you
 using KWrite anyway to look at the emerge log?  Why not use
 something like Kuroo?  Or else qlop (from portage-utils)?
 

 Or app-portage/genlop.

   

I'll get you both at the same time.  It seems every time I get good at a
tool, they change it to something else.  Just as I was getting good at
etcat, it went away.  So I just use Kwrite and the find feature.  It
works.  LOL  I never heard of Kuroo.  I'll have to look into that.  I
don't think I have ever seen qlop either.  O_O  The only genlop option I
have used is genlop -c. 

Sort of strange huh??

Dale

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[gentoo-user] problems with partition table

2007-02-25 Thread JC D
Hi!

I think I have a serious problem with my partition table. I did all the 
partitions with fdisk but may be not right, or somewhen screwed my partition 
table up. I want to use a graphical tool like gparted also doing some changes 
on my fat32 partition. But when I installed gparted I got an empty partition 
table with nothing than

unallocated 55.89 GB  (my disk is an 60 GB Hitachi)

nothing else!!!
 Here is my outpu from 
# fdisk -l

 fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *   1191315361888+   7  HPFS/NTFS
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/hda21914420818427027+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/hda35100729617637480f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/hda442085099 7164990   83  Linux
/dev/hda5   *51005108   68008+  83  Linux
/dev/hda651085173  521608+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda75173729617047768+  83  Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order

This seems wrong to me. Also parted says something with overlapping partitions 
and its right I think. Is there any chance to repair this without destroying 
the whole installation? I have backuped my installation with rsync and also did 
save my mbr:

dd if=/dev/hda of=/backup/mbr512.img bs=512 count=1

and

dd if=/dev/hda of=/backup/mbr446.img bs=446 count=1

Must I somehow reinstall my partition table? And how to do this?

Ok, thank you and have a nice sunday!




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Re: [gentoo-user] problems with partition table

2007-02-25 Thread Mick
On Sunday 25 February 2007 14:05, JC D wrote:
 Hi!

 I think I have a serious problem with my partition table. I did all the
 partitions with fdisk but may be not right, or somewhen screwed my
 partition table up. I want to use a graphical tool like gparted also doing
 some changes on my fat32 partition. But when I installed gparted I got an
 empty partition table with nothing than

 unallocated 55.89 GB  (my disk is an 60 GB Hitachi)

 nothing else!!!

Did you write/save the partition table after your changes?  Did you reboot 
thereafter?  I make some suggestions below but they come with the health 
warning attached that I have no responsibility if it doesn't work.

  Here is my outpu from
 # fdisk -l

  fdisk -l

 Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/hda1   *   1191315361888+   7  HPFS/NTFS
 Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.

This is in itself is not a problem.  If you create/resize partitions based on 
MB you may or may not hit a clean cylinder boundary.  Do your resizing in 
cylinders and the end result will coincide with their boundaries.

 /dev/hda21914420818427027+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
 Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
 /dev/hda35100729617637480f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
 Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.

Look what has happened here, your extended partition starts at cyl 5100, while 
your first logical partition starts at cyl 4208.  I'd say that neither are 
correct.  I suggest that you resize your extended partition hda3 to start at 
cyl 4209, i.e. straight after the end of the previous primary partition 
(hda2).
 
 /dev/hda442085099 7164990   83  Linux

Here you need to change the beginning of this partition to be straight after 
the end of the previous primary partition and at the beginning of the 
extended partition.  So, hda4 should start at cyl 4209.

 /dev/hda5   *51005108   68008+  83  Linux

This is good, but you do not need the boot flag.  As a matter of fact it may 
confuse your WinXP bootloader and Linux does not need it.

 /dev/hda651085173  521608+  82  Linux swap /

This is not good as it overlaps the end of the previous partition.  hda6 
should start at cyl 5109.

 Solaris /dev/hda75173729617047768+  83  Linux

 Partition table entries are not in disk order

That's because they were created at a chronological sequence which do not 
reflect their physical order on the disk.  Not really important.

 This seems wrong to me. Also parted says something with overlapping
 partitions and its right I think. Is there any chance to repair this
 without destroying the whole installation? I have backuped my installation
 with rsync and also did save my mbr:

 dd if=/dev/hda of=/backup/mbr512.img bs=512 count=1

 and

 dd if=/dev/hda of=/backup/mbr446.img bs=446 count=1

Since you have a backup the worst that can happen is to correct the partitions 
as suggested above and discover that your OS cannot read them!  In that case 
reformat them and use your back up to restore the data.

An alternative approach is to restore your partition table to a previous 
version and with it the previous boundaries of your partitions.  After I was 
faced with a borked partition table too, I used testdisk to recover and 
restore previous partition table entries.

http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade

2007-02-25 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
Reordered for readability..

On Saturday 24 February 2007 05:40:52 Douglas Linford wrote:
   Did you even read the replies up until now?
 
  Kinda testy there Mr. Boyes I did read the replies...

I guess you just didn't understand much of it then...

   # emerge -pv \=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4

 iDeq ~ # emerge -pv \=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies |
 !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4 have been
 masked.
 !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
 request:
 - xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4.0-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)

 For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
 refer to the Gentoo Handbook.

Since you didn't make any effort to explain what's so hard to understand I'll
just point you to the relevant section in the handbook [1].

And please stop top-posting (shamelessly copied from one of Boyd's posts..):

A: It reverses the reading order of the conversation.
Q: Why's top-posting so bad?
A: Top-posting and insufficient quote trimming.
Q: What's the most annoying thing on mailing lists and USENET?

[1] 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=3#doc_chap2

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any luck with the postfix upgrade?

2007-02-25 Thread Grant

 Hello, apparently it's time for me to upgrade like so:

 mail-mta/postfix-2.3.6 [2.2.10]

 Has anyone else made this upgrade?  How did it go?  Anything to watch
 out for?

 - Grant

The upgrade here was OK. I didn't have to change anything - just emerged
and reloaded with /etc/init.d/postfix restart. No problems, no
complains...just perfect ;-)


Looks A-OK here.  Thanks guys.

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[gentoo-user] emerge --depclean wants to remove required packages

2007-02-25 Thread Mark Knecht

Hi,
  I've been cleaning up a machine trying to fix a problem with
Evolution crashing. I'm down to the point where all the dependencies
(emerge -DuN and revdep-rebuild) are clean but when I run emerge
--depclean wants remove packages that would break dependencies.

  I understand that I could fix this by adding these 15 packages to
the world file on this machine, but isn't doing that really wrong?

  Is there no tool better than emerge --depclean for determining what
really needs to be removed?

  Here's a list of what --depclean wants to remove:

net-misc/curl
perl-core/Digest-MD5
perl-core/DB_File
media-libs/jasper
dev-lang/tk
sys-libs/libcap
perl-core/libnet
x11-libs/libXvMC
perl-core/Storable
dev-lang/swig
dev-scheme/guile
x11-libs/fox-wrapper
gnome-extra/at-spi
media-libs/jbigkit
dev-lang/tcl

  Many, but not all, of these seem to be traceable back to either
Evolution, spamassassin or Gnome.

  Are these bugs in the ebuilds that should be reported or is there
some correct way for me to fix this up?

Thanks,
Mark
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[gentoo-user] What's the dmix equivalent these days?

2007-02-25 Thread Mick
Hi All,

It seems that when Amarok is playing, all system sounds are put on hold.  Once 
I close Amarok then all system (KDE) notifications suddenly sound at once!

How do I figure out what's wrong and how should I fix it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean wants to remove required packages

2007-02-25 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 25 February 2007 18:50:47 Mark Knecht wrote:
I've been cleaning up a machine trying to fix a problem with
 Evolution crashing. I'm down to the point where all the dependencies
 (emerge -DuN and revdep-rebuild) are clean but when I run emerge
 --depclean wants remove packages that would break dependencies.

How did you determine that it would break dependencies?

Many, but not all, of these seem to be traceable back to either
 Evolution, spamassassin or Gnome.

Really?

Are these bugs in the ebuilds that should be reported or is there
 some correct way for me to fix this up?

You really haven't provided enough information to qualify that there is 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

2007-02-25 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:29:24 -0600
»Q« [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Thanks. I think it is not a good idea to call Firefox (for some
   branding issue) its development codename. Maybe Gentoo should use
   Debian's Iceweasel name.  
  
  I agree.  It's confusing that the brand-less name is the same as the
  development name.
 
 I don't seen anything about it at bugs.gentoo.org;  you could file a
 bug.  I'm not sure anyone would be motivated to patch it, though.  As
 it is now, (well, AIUI) the USE flag just controls the
 --enable-official-branding switch for compiling and the Bon Echo you
 see is just an artifact of the way Mozilla ships its source code.
 
 I think something other than Iceweasel would be preferable,
 since Debian and GNU both have Iceweasel projects.
 
but 'IceWeasel' is ugly.  Bon Echo is such a nice name.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Menola
On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:55 pm, Dan Farrell wrote:
 but 'IceWeasel' is ugly.  Bon Echo is such a nice name.  

I'd prefer firefox_alt or something similar. Something that tells me what it 
is

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[gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

2007-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-02-25, Joe Menola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:55 pm, Dan Farrell wrote:
 but 'IceWeasel' is ugly.  Bon Echo is such a nice name.  

 I'd prefer firefox_alt or something similar. Something that tells me what it 
 is

Um, if you're not allowed to use the trademarked name
firefox, then calling it firefox_alt is also going to be a
trademark violation.

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[gentoo-user] What if the firewall doesn't start?

2007-02-25 Thread Grant

It occurred to me that if the shorewall firewall on my headless router
doesn't start for whatever reason, I'll be totally exposed.  Is there
a way to protect against that?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

2007-02-25 Thread Korthrun

On 2/25/07, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2007-02-25, Joe Menola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:55 pm, Dan Farrell wrote:
 but 'IceWeasel' is ugly. Bon Echo is such a nice name.

 I'd prefer firefox_alt or something similar. Something that tells me what it
 is

Um, if you're not allowed to use the trademarked name
firefox, then calling it firefox_alt is also going to be a
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean wants to remove required packages

2007-02-25 Thread Mark Knecht

Hi Bo,
  Thanks for the response. Hopefully I'm approaching this correct.

On 2/25/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sunday 25 February 2007 18:50:47 Mark Knecht wrote:
I've been cleaning up a machine trying to fix a problem with
 Evolution crashing. I'm down to the point where all the dependencies
 (emerge -DuN and revdep-rebuild) are clean but when I run emerge
 --depclean wants remove packages that would break dependencies.

How did you determine that it would break dependencies?


Basically running 'equery depends' up the stack of what it's telling
me it wants to take out, or on the package that depends on what it
wants to take out, until I get to something I recognize as an
application the user wants. Is this not the right way to look for why
this is happening?

For instance, this one is easy. --depclean wants to remove gnome-extra/at-spi:

gandalf ~ # equery depends gnome-extra/at-spi
[ Searching for packages depending on gnome-extra/at-spi... ]
gnome-base/gnome-2.16.2

The next is less obvious but the result is direct. --depclean wants to
remove dev-scheme/guile:

gandalf ~ # equery depends dev-scheme/guile
[ Searching for packages depending on dev-scheme/guile... ]
gnome-extra/gnome-games-2.16.2
gandalf ~ #

Finally this one takes a few steps to get to the top. --depclean wants
to remove media-libs/jasper:

gandalf ~ # equery depends media-libs/jasper
[ Searching for packages depending on media-libs/jasper... ]
media-gfx/imagemagick-6.3.0.5
media-libs/netpbm-10.37.0
gandalf ~ # equery depends media-gfx/imagemagick
[ Searching for packages depending on media-gfx/imagemagick... ]
gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.2
gandalf ~ # equery depends gnome-extra/libgsf
[ Searching for packages depending on gnome-extra/libgsf... ]
gnome-base/librsvg-2.16.1
gandalf ~ # equery depends gnome-base/librsvg
[ Searching for packages depending on gnome-base/librsvg... ]
media-gfx/gimp-2.2.12
gnome-base/gdm-2.16.4
gnome-base/gnome-2.16.2
gnome-base/nautilus-2.16.3
gnome-extra/gnome-games-2.16.2
dev-python/gnome-python-desktop-2.16.0
gandalf ~ #




Many, but not all, of these seem to be traceable back to either
 Evolution, spamassassin or Gnome.

Really?

Are these bugs in the ebuilds that should be reported or is there
 some correct way for me to fix this up?

You really haven't provided enough information to qualify that there is
anything wrong.



Note that this machine is about 350 miles away. Normally to emerge
things I run inside of a screen session and ^A^D out of screen while
it runs emerge. Because the machine is having troubles with Evolution
I re-emerged evolution and watched the compile. I'm seeing a number of
what appear to be link errors. Maybe that has something to do with
this?

What causes this problem:

libtool: link: warning:
`/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/../../..//libxml2.la' seems to
be moved
libtool: link: warning:
`/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/../../..//libgobject-2.0.la'
seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning:
`/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/../../..//libbonobo-2.la' seems
to be moved
libtool: link: warning:
`/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/../../..//libbonobo-activation.la'
seems to be moved

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Agg
on 02/24/2007 07:51 PM Mantas Povilaitis wrote the following:
 It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
 about spam (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG,
 OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least
 wrote something meaningful while all other of you Responsible mailing
 list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing
 list just continue writing total nonsenses.

All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific case.

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Dale
Agg wrote:
 on 02/24/2007 07:51 PM Mantas Povilaitis wrote the following:
   
 It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
 about spam (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG,
 OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least
 wrote something meaningful while all other of you Responsible mailing
 list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing
 list just continue writing total nonsenses.
 

 All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
 An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific case.

   

Then exactly what does this have to do with Gentoo, Linux or even a
computer?

Dale

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[gentoo-user] Avoiding core dumps

2007-02-25 Thread Christoph Nodes

Dear gentoo users,

since a few months I am getting core dumps in / and $HOME/ on my
notebook. I am not aware of having changed anything with my PAM or
similar settings. Has there be any changes to the default policy in
PAM concerning core dumps?

I would like to suppress the generation of core dumps for normal users.

ulimit -c as normal user gives me 976 block as root I get 0. I know
that setting ulimit -c 0 in .bash_profile or .profile could be a
solution but I'm looking for a more appropriate way to avoid core
dumps for normal users.

I already read http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/backtraces.xml but the
information there seems to be somehow outdated since I don't have a
/etc/limits.conf only a /etc/limits. But AFAIK this ought to be
irrelevant for me as I am using PAM?

Anyhow, I did not change anything to /etc/security/limits.conf or
/etc/limits, i.e. everything in these files is commented out. I also
checked /etc/conf.d/rc and it seems to be ok.

So how can I get rid of these core dumps?

I am using sys-libs/pam-0.78-r5.

Some more general information about my system:
# emerge --version
Portage 2.1.2-r9 (default-linux/x86/2006.1, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.5-r0,
2.6.19-ck2-r1 i686)

What else?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Christoph
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Agg wrote:



All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific case.



Spam with a valid reply-to address is still spam.
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Agg
on 02/25/2007 11:12 PM Dale wrote the following:
 Agg wrote:
 on 02/24/2007 07:51 PM Mantas Povilaitis wrote the following:
   
 It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
 about spam (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG,
 OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least
 wrote something meaningful while all other of you Responsible mailing
 list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing
 list just continue writing total nonsenses.
 

 All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
 An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific case.

   
 
 Then exactly what does this have to do with Gentoo, Linux or even a
 computer?
 
*Nothing*. It was written on the subject: *off-topic*:...





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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Agg
on 02/25/2007 11:14 PM Mark Kirkwood wrote the following:
 Agg wrote:
 

 All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
 An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific
 case.

 
 Spam with a valid reply-to address is still spam.

You mean an *off-topic* with a valid reply-to address is still *off-topic*.


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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Dale
Agg wrote:
 on 02/25/2007 11:12 PM Dale wrote the following:
   
 Agg wrote:
 
 on 02/24/2007 07:51 PM Mantas Povilaitis wrote the following:
   
   
 It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
 about spam (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG,
 OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least
 wrote something meaningful while all other of you Responsible mailing
 list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing
 list just continue writing total nonsenses.
 
 
 All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
 An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific case.

   
   
 Then exactly what does this have to do with Gentoo, Linux or even a
 computer?

 
 *Nothing*. It was written on the subject: *off-topic*:...





   

OK then.  I'm going to start selling Viagra.  I'll just put off-topic in
the subject line and it will be OK.  ;-)

Doesn't make sense to you either now huh?

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

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[OT] Shamelessly copied (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade)

2007-02-25 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 25 February 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade':
 And please stop top-posting (shamelessly copied from one of Boyd's
 posts..):

I shamelessly copied it from someone else [*], so I don't really deserve 
the credit.  I thought it was one of the Neils that first posted it (at 
least to the gentoo-* lists).

 A: It reverses the reading order of the conversation.
 Q: Why's top-posting so bad?
 A: Top-posting and insufficient quote trimming.
 Q: What's the most annoying thing on mailing lists and USENET?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

2007-02-25 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:35:33PM -0700, Penguin Lover Korthrun squawked:
 Iceweasel for life.

Getting a bit off topic here...

But IceWeasel to me means something like Distant third cousin with
some contradictory philosophy to FireFox, like, say, Galeon or
Kazehakase. 

I prefer something like FlameCanid that more properly expresses the
fact that ours is almost-exactly-but-not-quite-perfectly-the-same. 

:)

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Agg
on 02/25/2007 11:50 PM Dale wrote the following:
 Agg wrote:
 on 02/25/2007 11:12 PM Dale wrote the following:
   
 Agg wrote:
 
 on 02/24/2007 07:51 PM Mantas Povilaitis wrote the following:
   
   
 It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
 about spam (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG,
 OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least
 wrote something meaningful while all other of you Responsible mailing
 list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing
 list just continue writing total nonsenses.
 
 
 All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
 An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific case.

   
   
 Then exactly what does this have to do with Gentoo, Linux or even a
 computer?

 
 *Nothing*. It was written on the subject: *off-topic*:...


 
 OK then.  I'm going to start selling Viagra.  I'll just put off-topic in
 the subject line and it will be OK.  ;-)
 
 Doesn't make sense to you either now huh?
 
 Dale
 
That would be *spam* indeed, because of its *contents*.

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:38:35PM +0200, Penguin Lover Agg squawked:
 You mean an *off-topic* with a valid reply-to address is still *off-topic*.

Oh, come on, why can't you have the decency to spam^H post off-topic
from just one e-mail account? It is annoying to have to kill-file
multiple ones. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Agg
on 02/25/2007 11:50 PM Dale wrote the following:
 Agg wrote:
 on 02/25/2007 11:12 PM Dale wrote the following:
   
 Agg wrote:
 
 on 02/24/2007 07:51 PM Mantas Povilaitis wrote the following:
   
   
 It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
 about spam (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG,
 OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least
 wrote something meaningful while all other of you Responsible mailing
 list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing
 list just continue writing total nonsenses.
 
 
 All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
 An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific case.

   
   
 Then exactly what does this have to do with Gentoo, Linux or even a
 computer?

 
 *Nothing*. It was written on the subject: *off-topic*:...





   
 
 OK then.  I'm going to start selling Viagra.  I'll just put off-topic in
 the subject line and it will be OK.  ;-)
 
 Doesn't make sense to you either now huh?
 

You don't have to look at the contents of a post that you think is spam.
But in the specific dolphin massacre case, those that look at it's
contents, will see that it is *not* about viagra or the like, and so, in
that case it's just off-topic.

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Agg
on 02/26/2007 12:29 AM Agg wrote the following:
 on 02/25/2007 11:50 PM Dale wrote the following:
 Agg wrote:
 on 02/25/2007 11:12 PM Dale wrote the following:
   
 Agg wrote:
 
 on 02/24/2007 07:51 PM Mantas Povilaitis wrote the following:
   
   
 It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
 about spam (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG,
 OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least
 wrote something meaningful while all other of you Responsible mailing
 list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing
 list just continue writing total nonsenses.
 
 
 All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
 An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific 
 case.

   
   
 Then exactly what does this have to do with Gentoo, Linux or even a
 computer?

 
 *Nothing*. It was written on the subject: *off-topic*:...





   
 OK then.  I'm going to start selling Viagra.  I'll just put off-topic in
 the subject line and it will be OK.  ;-)

 Doesn't make sense to you either now huh?

 
 You don't have to look at the contents of a post that you think is spam.
 But in the specific dolphin massacre case, those that look at it's
 contents, will see that it is *not* about viagra or the like, and so, in
 that case it's just off-topic.
 

Let me add though, that in your case, not having looked at it, will
always remain spam. Simple as that.
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Agg
on 02/26/2007 12:27 AM Willie Wong wrote the following:
 On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:38:35PM +0200, Penguin Lover Agg squawked:
 You mean an *off-topic* with a valid reply-to address is still *off-topic*.
 
 Oh, come on, why can't you have the decency to spam^H post off-topic
 from just one e-mail account? It is annoying to have to kill-file
 multiple ones. 

If you had the decency to accept off-topic as off-topic, spam as spam,
simple as simple, and hypocrisy as hypocrisy...
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Re: [gentoo-user] What if the firewall doesn't start?

2007-02-25 Thread Mick
On Sunday 25 February 2007 19:58, Grant wrote:
 It occurred to me that if the shorewall firewall on my headless router
 doesn't start for whatever reason, I'll be totally exposed.  Is there
 a way to protect against that?

Well, you'll get an error during boot that iptables did not come up.  I assume 
that shorewall is only run when you change the script and 
otherwise /etc/init.d/iptables is run as a default service after boot.  

Anyway, a closed port remains closed whether a firewall is running, or not.  
An open port is hopefully protected by decently strong passwds/authentication 
mechanisms.
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Agg wrote:

on 02/25/2007 11:14 PM Mark Kirkwood wrote the following:

Agg wrote:


All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific
case.


Spam with a valid reply-to address is still spam.


You mean an *off-topic* with a valid reply-to address is still *off-topic*.




No - I meant spam...
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Ken Gypen

Agg wrote:

on 02/26/2007 12:29 AM Agg wrote the following:
  

on 02/25/2007 11:50 PM Dale wrote the following:


Agg wrote:
  

on 02/25/2007 11:12 PM Dale wrote the following:
  


Agg wrote:

  

on 02/24/2007 07:51 PM Mantas Povilaitis wrote the following:
  
  


It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine
about spam (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG,
OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least
wrote something meaningful while all other of you Responsible mailing
list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing
list just continue writing total nonsenses.


  

All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific case.

  
  


Then exactly what does this have to do with Gentoo, Linux or even a
computer?


  

*Nothing*. It was written on the subject: *off-topic*:...





  


OK then.  I'm going to start selling Viagra.  I'll just put off-topic in
the subject line and it will be OK.  ;-)

Doesn't make sense to you either now huh?

  

You don't have to look at the contents of a post that you think is spam.
But in the specific dolphin massacre case, those that look at it's
contents, will see that it is *not* about viagra or the like, and so, in
that case it's just off-topic.




Let me add though, that in your case, not having looked at it, will
always remain spam. Simple as that.
  


Agg, like in Aggelos? the dude or dudette that caused this spamtrap?

Suggestion: off topic = not for this mailing list

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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Bon Echo (why?)

2007-02-25 Thread Christian Marie
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:15:14PM -0500, Willie Wong wrote:
 I prefer something like FlameCanid that more properly expresses the
 fact that ours is almost-exactly-but-not-quite-perfectly-the-same. 

We use Bon Echo as it's upstreams default unbranded name. Many other
distros are using Bon Echo and changing it to something else would
require a reasonably painful amount of patching and maintenance.

You are allowed to build Firefox with branding, you can't distribute any
binaries you build though. We're currently considering enabling branding
by default with USE=bindist however it's a complicated issue.
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Mick
On Sunday 25 February 2007 22:45, Agg wrote:
 on 02/26/2007 12:27 AM Willie Wong wrote the following:
  On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:38:35PM +0200, Penguin Lover Agg squawked:
  You mean an *off-topic* with a valid reply-to address is still
  *off-topic*.
 
  Oh, come on, why can't you have the decency to spam^H post off-topic
  from just one e-mail account? It is annoying to have to kill-file
  multiple ones.

 If you had the decency to accept off-topic as off-topic, spam as spam,
 simple as simple, and hypocrisy as hypocrisy...

You seem to be evidently void of any sense of relevance and proportionality.  
This is a 'gentoo-user' mailing list intended to serve the needs of 
gentoo-users; specific support and discussion needs which are relevant to the 
Gentoo meta-distribution.  Had you been around for any length of time you 
would have observed the fact that off-topic on this list is invariably 
still relevant to IT, computers, Linux and related topics.

After many people told you that your topic is considered irrelevant spam for 
this list and that you are consuming unnecessary bandwidth, you continue to 
annoy with your persistence to spam.  Exhibiting a messianic zeal for a good 
cause in this inappropriate way, has ended up causing a disservice to an 
otherwise laudable cause.  Your ends do not justify your means and in this 
case label you as fanatic idiot - because you have no sense of relevance, 
proportionality and respect for your audience.

Couldn't you just find a *suitable* ML to raise your issue and leave us alone?
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Samuel Baldwin

Oh my gosh, why don't you all just STOP and let this post DIE.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Bon Echo (why?)

2007-02-25 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 26 February 2007 00:06:55 Christian Marie wrote:
 You are allowed to build Firefox with branding, you can't distribute any
 binaries you build though. We're currently considering enabling branding
 by default with USE=bindist however it's a complicated issue.

I assume you meant when USE=bindist is disabled.

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Dale
Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 25 February 2007 22:45, Agg wrote:
   
 If you had the decency to accept off-topic as off-topic, spam as spam,
 simple as simple, and hypocrisy as hypocrisy...
 

 You seem to be evidently void of any sense of relevance and proportionality.  
 This is a 'gentoo-user' mailing list intended to serve the needs of 
 gentoo-users; specific support and discussion needs which are relevant to the 
 Gentoo meta-distribution.  Had you been around for any length of time you 
 would have observed the fact that off-topic on this list is invariably 
 still relevant to IT, computers, Linux and related topics.

 After many people told you that your topic is considered irrelevant spam for 
 this list and that you are consuming unnecessary bandwidth, you continue to 
 annoy with your persistence to spam.  Exhibiting a messianic zeal for a good 
 cause in this inappropriate way, has ended up causing a disservice to an 
 otherwise laudable cause.  Your ends do not justify your means and in this 
 case label you as fanatic idiot - because you have no sense of relevance, 
 proportionality and respect for your audience.

 Couldn't you just find a *suitable* ML to raise your issue and leave us alone?
   

I could have said it better but I would have been rude doing it.  I
don't mind something off topic as in related to computers at least. 
Last time I checked, dolphins do not run Gentoo, Linux or even windoze
for that matter.

Maybe you need to accept the simple as simple part you wrote.  It's
really simple, this is spam.

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding core dumps

2007-02-25 Thread David Relson
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:12:49 +0100
Christoph Nodes wrote:

 Dear gentoo users,
 
 since a few months I am getting core dumps in / and $HOME/ on my
 notebook. I am not aware of having changed anything with my PAM or
 similar settings. Has there be any changes to the default policy in
 PAM concerning core dumps?
 
 I would like to suppress the generation of core dumps for normal
 users.
 
 ulimit -c as normal user gives me 976 block as root I get 0. I know
 that setting ulimit -c 0 in .bash_profile or .profile could be a
 solution but I'm looking for a more appropriate way to avoid core
 dumps for normal users.
 
 I already read http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/backtraces.xml but the
 information there seems to be somehow outdated since I don't have a
 /etc/limits.conf only a /etc/limits. But AFAIK this ought to be
 irrelevant for me as I am using PAM?
 
 Anyhow, I did not change anything to /etc/security/limits.conf or
 /etc/limits, i.e. everything in these files is commented out. I also
 checked /etc/conf.d/rc and it seems to be ok.
 
 So how can I get rid of these core dumps?
 
 I am using sys-libs/pam-0.78-r5.
 
 Some more general information about my system:
 # emerge --version
 Portage 2.1.2-r9 (default-linux/x86/2006.1, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.5-r0,
 2.6.19-ck2-r1 i686)
 
 What else?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Best regards,
 Christoph

As best I know, it's the ulimit setting that's relevant and pam is not
involved.
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[gentoo-user] doc USE flag causes circular dependencies error

2007-02-25 Thread Bob Young

I'm bringing up a new Gentoo box, and last night I successfully merged
xorg-x11, this morning when I tried to merge KDE, I got a circular
dependencies error. As a first troubleshooting step I trimmed my USE flags
down to a minimum and found the error went away. After several rounds of
adding/removing lines/individual USE flags I found that the doc flag was
the source of the error:


USE=kde X qt4 doc emerge -pv kde-meta 

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies  . . .. done!
!!! Error: circular dependencies:

('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libkpimexchange-3.5.5', 'merge') depends on
   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-3.3.6-r4', 'merge') (hard)
   ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r8', 'merge') (hard)
   ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libkcal-3.5.5', 'merge') (hard)
('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/klettres-3.5.5', 'merge') depends on
   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-3.3.6-r4', 'merge') (hard)
   ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r8', 'merge') (hard)
('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libkonq-3.5.5', 'merge') depends on
   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-3.3.6-r4', 'merge') (hard)
   ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r8', 'merge') (hard)
.
.
.
('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kblackbox-3.5.5', 'merge') depends on
   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-3.3.6-r4', 'merge') (hard)
   ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.5', 'merge') (hard)
   ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r8', 'merge') (hard)




USE=kde X qt4 emerge -pv kde-meta 

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies  . . . done!
[ebuild  N] virtual/xft-7.0  0 kB 
[ebuild  N] app-text/libpaper-1.1.20  322 kB 
[ebuild  N] app-crypt/opencdk-0.5.5  USE=-doc 323 kB 
[ebuild  N] dev-lang/nasm-0.98.39-r3  USE=-build -doc 532 kB 
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libtasn1-0.3.5  USE=-doc 1,223 kB 
[ebuild  N] app-text/poppler-0.5.4-r1  USE=zlib -cjk -jpeg 1,038 kB 
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/xprop-1.0.1  USE=-debug 91 kB 
[ebuild  N] media-fonts/gnu-gs-fonts-std-8.11  3,665 kB
.
.
.
[ebuild  N] kde-base/karm-3.5.5  USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal
-xinerama 0 kB 
[ebuild  N] kde-base/kdeaddons-meta-3.5.5  USE=-arts 0 kB 
[ebuild  N] kde-base/kontact-specialdates-3.5.5  USE=-arts -debug
-kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB 
[ebuild  N] kde-base/kdepim-meta-3.5.5  USE=-pda 0 kB 
[ebuild  N] kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.5  USE=nls -accessibility 0 kB 

Total: 288 packages (288 new), Size of downloads: 473,412 kB

**


Am I doing something wrong? 

Is this a known issue? 

Is there an alternative other than disabling the doc USE flag?

TIA
Bob Young
San Jose, CA




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Re: [gentoo-user] doc USE flag causes circular dependencies error

2007-02-25 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 26 February 2007 00:55:04 Bob Young wrote:
 I'm bringing up a new Gentoo box, and last night I successfully merged
 xorg-x11, this morning when I tried to merge KDE, I got a circular
 dependencies error. As a first troubleshooting step I trimmed my USE flags
 down to a minimum and found the error went away. After several rounds of
 adding/removing lines/individual USE flags I found that the doc flag was
 the source of the error:
[SNIP]
 Am I doing something wrong?

 Is this a known issue?

 Is there an alternative other than disabling the doc USE flag?

When you've emerged the packages with the doc USE flag disabled you will be 
able to enable the flag and remerge the packages with --newuse as the 
packages will then be installed which means the circular deps are already 
satisfied. And yes, this is a known issue. Hopefully portage 2.1.3 will have 
a better solution..

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Re: [gentoo-user] What if the firewall doesn't start?

2007-02-25 Thread Grant

 It occurred to me that if the shorewall firewall on my headless router
 doesn't start for whatever reason, I'll be totally exposed.  Is there
 a way to protect against that?

Well, you'll get an error during boot that iptables did not come up.


The machine is headless though.


I assume that shorewall is only run when you change the script and
otherwise /etc/init.d/iptables is run as a default service after boot.


Ouch.  No.  I'm running shorewall in the default runlevel and iptables
explicitly not at all.  I thought running shorewall was all I needed
to do.  Can you confirm that I should be running iptables in the
default runlevel and shorewall only when I want to update the config?


Anyway, a closed port remains closed whether a firewall is running, or not.


I thought the firewall specified which ports to open/close.

- Gramt
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Norberto Bensa
Dale wrote:
 OK then.  I'm going to start selling Viagra.  I'll just put off-topic in
 the subject line and it will be OK.  ;-)


What's happening to everyone here!?? 

CAN'T YOU SEE THE DAMN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REAL SPAM AND SOME POOR SOUL TRYING 
TO SAVE LIVES??

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Dale
Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Dale wrote:
   
 OK then.  I'm going to start selling Viagra.  I'll just put off-topic in
 the subject line and it will be OK.  ;-)

 

 What's happening to everyone here!?? 

 CAN'T YOU SEE THE DAMN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REAL SPAM AND SOME POOR SOUL TRYING 
 TO SAVE LIVES??

   


On a Gentoo list, NO I can't. 

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread millerhe1
Here Here If you really want to save lives join peta or the spca and leave the 
rest of us blissfully unaware. In this  lists until  they start issuing 
aquriums with gentoo cds I have no need for help with a dolphin. Also its spam 
in the fact it is unsolicited communication to a sibject clearly unwanted in 
this forum. Sorry for top post on my treo and only way.

-Original Message-

From:  Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj:  Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
Date:  Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:13 pm
Size:  959 bytes
To:  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

  Norberto Bensa wrote:  Dale wrote:   OK then.  I'm going to start selling 
Viagra.  I'll just put off-topic in the subject line and it will be OK.  ;-)
 What's happening to everyone here!??   CAN'T YOU SEE THE DAMN DIFFERENCE 
BETWEEN REAL SPAM AND SOME POOR SOUL TRYING  TO SAVE LIVES??
 
 On a Gentoo list, NO I can't.  
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)  :-)
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Agg
on 02/26/2007 12:58 AM Mark Kirkwood wrote the following:
 Agg wrote:
 on 02/25/2007 11:14 PM Mark Kirkwood wrote the following:
 Agg wrote:

 All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam.
 An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific
 case.

 Spam with a valid reply-to address is still spam.

 You mean an *off-topic* with a valid reply-to address is still
 *off-topic*.


 
 No - I meant spam...
off-topic in this particular case
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Agg
on 02/26/2007 01:22 AM Mick wrote the following:
 On Sunday 25 February 2007 22:45, Agg wrote:
 on 02/26/2007 12:27 AM Willie Wong wrote the following:
 On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:38:35PM +0200, Penguin Lover Agg squawked:
 You mean an *off-topic* with a valid reply-to address is still
 *off-topic*.
 Oh, come on, why can't you have the decency to spam^H post off-topic
 from just one e-mail account? It is annoying to have to kill-file
 multiple ones.
 If you had the decency to accept off-topic as off-topic, spam as spam,
 simple as simple, and hypocrisy as hypocrisy...

 You seem to be evidently void of any sense of relevance and proportionality.  
Speak for yourself: made a thread out of something *you* call spam.  (1)
 This is a 'gentoo-user' mailing list intended to serve the needs of 
 gentoo-users; specific support and discussion needs which are relevant to the 
 Gentoo meta-distribution.  Had you been around for any length of time you 
 would have observed the fact that off-topic on this list is invariably 
 still relevant to IT, computers, Linux and related topics.

 After many people told you that your topic is considered irrelevant spam for 
 this list and that you are consuming unnecessary bandwidth, you continue to 
 annoy with your persistence to spam.  
You are. I 'm replying.
 Exhibiting a messianic zeal for a good 
 cause in this inappropriate way, has ended up causing a disservice to an 
 otherwise laudable cause.  
(1)
 Your ends do not justify your means and in this 
 case label you as fanatic idiot - because you have no sense of relevance, 
 proportionality and respect for your audience.
(1)

 Couldn't you just find a *suitable* ML to raise your issue 
They should be aware of it.
 and leave us alone?
You don't have to reply to something *you* want to call spam.
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Re: [gentoo-user] how does one temporarily disable a firefox plugin (SOLVED)

2007-02-25 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:02:05 -0500 Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a stable x86 gentoo system with firefox (bon echo) 2.0.0.1) and
 totem 2.16.4.  According to about:plugins totem is to handle mp3 files

 I would like to temporarily not have totem handle the mp3s, but I was
 unable to see how to do it.

 I strongly suspect that unmerging totem (and remerging when done)
 would work but was looking for a less drastic method.

Less drastic method found

As root

cd /usr/lib/nsbrowser
mkdir plugins-save
mv plugins/*totem* plugins-save

When finished
mv plugins-save/* plugins

I suspect there is a way inside firefox, but I couldn't find it.
Illumination would be appreciated.

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

2007-02-25 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Agg wrote:

on 02/26/2007 12:58 AM Mark Kirkwood wrote the following:

No - I meant spam...

off-topic in this particular case


At last we agree - your spam is off-topic :-).

On a more serious note, I've added both your email addresses to my 
delete immediately filter.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

2007-02-25 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Grant Edwards wrote:



If you want it to call itself Firefox add mozbranding to your
USE flags.



Thanks for bringing this up! My mother has been a little confused about 
 this Bon Echo thing - and (re) emerging with USE=mozbranding got 
Firefox back for her, along with its expected icon.


Cheers

Mark
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[gentoo-user] Problems emerging gcc.

2007-02-25 Thread David Harel

Hi,


Trying to emerge glibc I got error:

configure: error:

*** These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc

*** Check the INSTALL file for required versions.


I upgraded gcc to 4.1.1-r3. apparently I have more versions of gcc 
installed.


Questions:

   1. What to do to fix glibc emerge?

   2. Where is the file INSTALL reside?

   2. Do I need all the older versions of gcc?

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Re: [gentoo-user] coda auto-login

2007-02-25 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 24. Februar 2007 schrieb ext Enrico Weigelt:

 But: there's another problem. Every user has to log into coda
 by its own. This is bad if all user's homedirs should sit on coda.

AFAIK there are PAM modules for this. Maybe not in portage, though.

Thought about AFS?

Bye...

Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

2007-02-25 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:15 -0500, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:35:33PM -0700, Penguin Lover Korthrun squawked:
  Iceweasel for life.
 
 Getting a bit off topic here...

what is a topic for, if not for getting off?!

 But IceWeasel to me means something like Distant third cousin with
 some contradictory philosophy to FireFox, like, say, Galeon or
 Kazehakase. 

I agree.  What the hell is Bon Echo to someone who barely knows what
firefox is?!

 I prefer something like FlameCanid that more properly expresses the
 fact that ours is almost-exactly-but-not-quite-perfectly-the-same. 

or Flamefox? or Hotfox, or Earthcat or Plasmadonkey, or Iceweasel... oh,
we ruled out that one...

but something that won't change with new firefox releases is a good
idea.

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