Re: [gentoo-user] Problem install Gentoo on New Laptop

2007-04-30 Thread Elias Probst
On Monday 30 April 2007 02:19:12 Colleen Beamer wrote:
 Then it says:
 /dev/sda3 is not a valid root device

 I probably did something wrong, but I've started from scratch 3 times
 and I get the same problem.  I've used genkernel and it looks like sata
 support has been built in.

Try to add
libata.atapi_enabled=1 combined_mode=libata
to your Kernel parameters in grub.conf/lilo.conf.

Regards, Elias P.


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


Re: [gentoo-user] Can't switch to a console after logging in to KDE.

2007-04-30 Thread Nistor Andrei
On Monday 30 April 2007, darren kirby wrote:
 quoth the Nistor Andrei:
  Hello list! I'm having some trouble with KDE. I'm not sure when this
  started, i just noticed it today. If I press Ctrl+Alt+F[1-12] nothing
  happens if I'm logged in to KDE. In KDM it works just fine. What could be
  the cause of this weird behaviour?

 Do you have:

 Option DontVTSwitch

 in your xorg.conf?

No. Here is my Xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/K2JtF986.html
I don't think there's something wrong with it... I believe the problem is in 
KDE, because if I'm in KDM switching VTs works fine. I also 
tried xinit /usr/bin/somegame -- :1. it works like a charm, but when I 
switch VTs the kde session running on :0 crashes, and I get back to KDM.
 -d
 --
 darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org
 ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more
 expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972


-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.20-r6 panics with strange message

2007-04-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 30. April 2007, maxim wexler wrote:
 Hi group,

 The new kernel panics at a typical place:
 ...
 VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8,7)

 then just below this appears:

 6 Time: tsc clocksource has been installed.
 crash

 The root fs is reiserfs and *is* part of the kernel.

 Yes, CONFIG_UNIX=y

that is not the reiserfs option.
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



[gentoo-user] Add something to KDE's shutdown

2007-04-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi guys!

I'd like to let my system automatically back up every time I shutdown or 
reboot using KDE's menu entry with a simple script.
However, it would be great to preserve a way to shutdown or reboot without 
making a backup when I've messed something up or when I need to shutdown 
ASAP.

What would be the best way to do this?

Thanks in advance,
Florian Philipp 


pgpKsWmS1Z0UC.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-user] how to show urxvt's name in windowlist?

2007-04-30 Thread Mick
On Monday 30 April 2007 02:38, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Sunday 29 April 2007 19:25:21 anhnmncb wrote:
  hello, list:
  when I assign a name to urxvt and run it:
  urxvt -name foo -e bash -c foo
  why the windowlist still show [EMAIL PROTECTED]: pwd? I expect it should
  show foo.

 Sounds like you have characters in your prompt and/or prompt-command that
 are setting the X window title.

  What should I do?

 Remove those characters.

  I appreciate any suggestion and advice.

 You might want to try the urxvt support forums/mailinglist/whatever; this
 doesn't sound like a Gentoo-specific problem.  That said, I'm sure someone
 will help you out here, IF they can.

You can set the appropriate PS1 characters/parameters in your .bashrc file, 
which urxvt should run when it comes up (assuming that urxvt is running a 
bash cell).  I remember an article in wiki about this and I am sure there are 
a few listed in Google - have a look and if you don't find it get back to us.

If you can hack the engine room approach for the basics without your eyes 
glazing over have a look at man bash - you are looking for the section 
PROMPTING, 2000+ lines down the page.

HTH.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


pgpHEe09uipyK.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.20-r6 panics with strange message

2007-04-30 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 30. April 2007 schrieb ext maxim wexler:
 Hi group,

 The new kernel panics at a typical place:
 ...
 VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8,7)

 From the new, 2.6.20 .config:

 CONFIG_SCSI=y
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
 CONFIG_ATA=y
 CONFIG_SATA_SIL=y

 From the previous, 2.6.16 two options no longer
 present in the 2.6.20 kernel

 CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
 CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIL=y

Well, without

CONFIG_SCSI=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y

you won't be able to boot from a SATA disk. So re-enabling them should solve 
the problem.

HTH...

Dirk
-- 
Dirk Heinrichs  | Tel:  +49 (0)162 234 3408
Configuration Manager   | Fax:  +49 (0)211 47068 111
Capgemini Deutschland   | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wanheimerstraße 68  | Web:  http://www.capgemini.com
D-40468 Düsseldorf  | ICQ#: 110037733
GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


Re: [gentoo-user] Problem install Gentoo on New Laptop

2007-04-30 Thread Graham Murray
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sata support may not be enough. Since all the SATA stuff has been put into 
 the SCSI subsystem, you would need support for SCSI disks (and maybe CDRoms 
 as well):

In the latest kernels, SATA is no longer in the SCSI subsystem but has
been 'split' into its own libata subsystem.
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Add something to KDE's shutdown

2007-04-30 Thread Csányi András

2007/4/30, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi guys!

I'd like to let my system automatically back up every time I shutdown or
reboot using KDE's menu entry with a simple script.
However, it would be great to preserve a way to shutdown or reboot without
making a backup when I've messed something up or when I need to shutdown
ASAP.

What would be the best way to do this?


Hi!

I' make this...

start:
/etc/conf.d/local.start

and shutdown
/etc/conf.d/local.stop

this scripts runs every start and shutdown...

András

--
- -
--  Csanyi Andras  -- http://sayusi.hu -- Sayusi Ando
--  Bízzál Istenben és tartsd szárazon a puskaport!.-- Cromwell
z���(��j)b�   b�

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem install Gentoo on New Laptop

2007-04-30 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 30. April 2007 schrieb ext Graham Murray:
 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Sata support may not be enough. Since all the SATA stuff has been put
  into the SCSI subsystem, you would need support for SCSI disks (and
  maybe CDRoms as well):

 In the latest kernels, SATA is no longer in the SCSI subsystem but has
 been 'split' into its own libata subsystem.

I just booted 2.6.21.1 (the latest AFAIK) from my /dev/sda, which is a SATA 
drive. If it is sda*, it is the SCSI subsystem, otherwise it would be hda*.

% dmesg|grep sda
SCSI device sda: 15625 512-byte hdwr sectors (8 MB)
sda: Write Protect is off
sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
SCSI device sda: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support 
DPO or FUA
SCSI device sda: 15625 512-byte hdwr sectors (8 MB)
sda: Write Protect is off
sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
SCSI device sda: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support 
DPO or FUA
 sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda

So once again: if it is SATA, you need (in addition to the driver for your 
SATA chip):

CONFIG_SCSI=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y

and, eventually

CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m

And btw, even PATA is in the SCSI subsystem nowadays (my system has SATA hd, 
but PATA cdrom, attached to an Intel ICH6 chipset):

% dmesg|grep -i scsi
SCSI subsystem initialized
scsi0 : ata_piix
scsi1 : ata_piix
scsi 0:0:0:0: CD-ROMHL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4481B E106 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
scsi2 : ata_piix
scsi3 : ata_piix
scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA  WDC WD800JD-75JN 06.0 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
SCSI device sda: 15625 512-byte hdwr sectors (8 MB)
SCSI device sda: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support 
DPO or FUA
SCSI device sda: 15625 512-byte hdwr sectors (8 MB)
SCSI device sda: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support 
DPO or FUA
sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda

Bye...

Dirk
-- 
Dirk Heinrichs  | Tel:  +49 (0)162 234 3408
Configuration Manager   | Fax:  +49 (0)211 47068 111
Capgemini Deutschland   | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wanheimerstraße 68  | Web:  http://www.capgemini.com
D-40468 Düsseldorf  | ICQ#: 110037733
GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


Re: [gentoo-user] Add something to KDE's shutdown

2007-04-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 30. April 2007, Florian Philipp wrote:
 Hi guys!

 I'd like to let my system automatically back up every time I shutdown or
 reboot using KDE's menu entry with a simple script.
 However, it would be great to preserve a way to shutdown or reboot without
 making a backup when I've messed something up or when I need to shutdown
 ASAP.

 What would be the best way to do this?

well, you can set in your kdmrc the reboot and halt command.

# The command (subject to word splitting) to run to halt the system.
# Default is /sbin/halt
#HaltCmd=

set them to point to a script
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Add something to KDE's shutdown

2007-04-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 30. April 2007, Florian Philipp wrote:
 Hi guys!

 I'd like to let my system automatically back up every time I shutdown or
 reboot using KDE's menu entry with a simple script.
 However, it would be great to preserve a way to shutdown or reboot without
 making a backup when I've messed something up or when I need to shutdown
 ASAP.

 What would be the best way to do this?

/usr/kde3.5/shutdown/
?
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



[gentoo-user] Touble with linux-headers

2007-04-30 Thread Holla

Hello,

I would like to install my own version of the kernel (2.6.18.3)
which i have compiled and installed. This is working fine.

But when I try to do 'emerge system', portage is
trying to emerge linux-headers also. How can I prevent
it ?

Also , when using a homebrew source, how do I install
the linux-headers in /usr/include ? just copy the directory
from the kerenl source, or symlink it ?

To prevent portage from trying to install its own version
I have added the homebrew-sources-2.6.99.ebuild to the
/usr/local/portage.

When I do 'emerge homebrew-sources' I get the following.
I am confused as to what to do next. In the homebrew-sources
ebuild, the function are just dummy (returnning true)

any pointers ?

thanks
sathish


-

Emerging (1 of 1) sys-kernel/homebrew-sources-2.6.99 to /

* checking ebuild checksums ;-) ...
 [ ok ] * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ...
 [ ok ] * checking
miscfile checksums ;-) ...
 [ ok ] Preparing to unpack ...

Unpacking source...
Source unpacked.
Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/homebrew-sources-2.6.99 ...

/usr/portage/eclass/kernel-2.eclass: line 1030: cd:
/var/tmp/portage/homebrew-sources-2.6.99/work/homebrew-sources-2.6.99:
No such file or directory

Source compiled.
Test phase [not enabled]: sys-kernel/homebrew-sources-2.6.99



Install homebrew-sources-2.6.99 into

/var/tmp/portage/homebrew-sources-2.6.99/image/ category sys-kernel

Completed installing homebrew-sources-2.6.99 into

/var/tmp/portage/homebrew-sources-2.6.99/image/

man:

Merging sys-kernel/homebrew-sources-2.6.99 to /
Safely unmerging already-installed instance...

No package files given... Grabbing a set.

Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...

--
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Touble with linux-headers

2007-04-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 30. April 2007, Holla wrote:
 Hello,

 I would like to install my own version of the kernel (2.6.18.3)
 which i have compiled and installed. This is working fine.

 But when I try to do 'emerge system', portage is
 trying to emerge linux-headers also. How can I prevent
 it ?

why? Why do you want to prevent it?

You know, that the in-kernel headers should not be used?


 Also , when using a homebrew source, how do I install
 the linux-headers in /usr/include ? just copy the directory
 from the kerenl source, or symlink it ?

You don't. Really. The kernel headers which come with the source tarball are 
not a good choice for userspace. Don't do it, you don't have a compelling 
reason. And if you have a very good reason for the in-kernel headers (like 
app X needs them), it is a bug.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Touble with linux-headers

2007-04-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 April 2007, Holla wrote:
 Hello,

 I would like to install my own version of the kernel (2.6.18.3)
 which i have compiled and installed. This is working fine.

OK

 But when I try to do 'emerge system', portage is
 trying to emerge linux-headers also. How can I prevent
 it ?

Why do you want to do that?

The kernel and kernel headers are completely different things and have 
nothing to do with each other, except that the headers came out of a 
kernel tarball once.

The kernel source is the kernel source, it's a free-standing compilable 
block of C.

The kernel-headers are there so the *user*apps*and*libs* know what 
definitions of data structures to use. In very broad terms, someone 
takes the .h files out of a kernel release that are known to be stable 
and work well and make them available to user-space compilation. Gentoo 
puts them in /usr/include/{asm,linux}. Leave them there.

Or have you been reading the stuff in /usr/src/linux/Documentation about 
how you shouldn't put kernel sources in /usr/src/linux?

alan


-- 
Optimists say the glass is half full,
Pessimists say the glass is half empty,
Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be?

Alan McKinnon
alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za
+27 82, double three seven, one nine three five
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Disk partition query

2007-04-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 30. April 2007, Stuart Howard wrote:
 I have made an annoying error when setting up my new computer.
 I installed Gentoo then winXP and made it dual boot, all of which has
 gone fine however when I did this I partitioned my disk as shown the
 theory being that I would assign space as required after all
 installation. Unfortunatly I made the 4 partitions all primary! and
 now I cannot make more partitions to consume the extra space.

 Can I for example delete the swap and then create an extended
 partition within the free space and finally create logical partitions
 as required?

yes.


 Can swap be assigned to an extended/logical partition?

yes, but you don't need a swap partition. A swapfile will work as fine as a 
swap partition.


 I am being a little over cautious in asking this on list before I try
 but after 3 days of compiling I am not in the mood to lose it all to
 an avoidable mistake :)

you can always remove the windows partition ;)
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Disk partition query

2007-04-30 Thread Joe Menola
On Monday 30 April 2007 5:01:41 am Stuart Howard wrote:
 Can I for example delete the swap and then create an extended
 partition within the free space and finally create logical partitions
 as required?

 Can swap be assigned to an extended/logical partition?

Yes and yes...as an added bonus you can do this within your running system
#swapoff -a
(modify partitions and fstab)
#swapon -a

-jm
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Touble with linux-headers

2007-04-30 Thread Holla

On 4/30/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Montag, 30. April 2007, Holla wrote:
 Hello,

 I would like to install my own version of the kernel (2.6.18.3)
 which i have compiled and installed. This is working fine.

 But when I try to do 'emerge system', portage is
 trying to emerge linux-headers also. How can I prevent
 it ?

why? Why do you want to prevent it?



OK, I get it now. I was under the (wrong) impression that
the kernel headers should match the kernel installed.
So, if portage is trying to install linux-headers-2.6.17
it is because that is the stable headers for 2.6, right ?

I even went to the extent of doing a
   make headers_check
   export INSTALL_HDR_PATH=/usr
   make headers_install

in the kernel build directory.

I see this is stupid now..

Thanks
sathish


You know, that the in-kernel headers should not be used?


 Also , when using a homebrew source, how do I install
 the linux-headers in /usr/include ? just copy the directory
 from the kerenl source, or symlink it ?

You don't. Really. The kernel headers which come with the source tarball are
not a good choice for userspace. Don't do it, you don't have a compelling
reason. And if you have a very good reason for the in-kernel headers (like
app X needs them), it is a bug.

--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Touble with linux-headers

2007-04-30 Thread Holla

On 4/30/07, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Monday 30 April 2007, Holla wrote:



The kernel-headers are there so the *user*apps*and*libs* know what
definitions of data structures to use. In very broad terms, someone
takes the .h files out of a kernel release that are known to be stable
and work well and make them available to user-space compilation. Gentoo
puts them in /usr/include/{asm,linux}. Leave them there.


Thanks for the explanation. As replied just now, my understand was
wrong.



Or have you been reading the stuff in /usr/src/linux/Documentation about
how you shouldn't put kernel sources in /usr/src/linux?


OOPS...bangs head on the wall



alan


--
Optimists say the glass is half full,
Pessimists say the glass is half empty,
Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be?

Alan McKinnon
alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za
+27 82, double three seven, one nine three five
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Subversion 1.4.3

2007-04-30 Thread Nistor Andrei
On Monday 30 April 2007, Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
 Hi

 I have currently installed version 1.3.2-r3 of subversion, but I have
 installed th latest version of subclipse (svn plugin for the eclipse
 platform), and now I can't use svn from the shell.

 I get
 svn: This client is too old to work with working copy '.'; please get a
 newer Subversion client

 no matter what command i run.

 I guess I have to upgrade to a new version of svn, but how  do I explain
 emerge that I want the 1.4.3 version?

 runing:

 emerge -va subversion

 only allows me to reinstall version 1.3.2-r3

Try 

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~arch emerge subversion

Replace arch with your architecture: x86, amd64, whatever...

This is only temporary, next time you'll update world it'l revert to 1.3.2.

To make it permanent, untill 1.4.3 goes stable, add this line 
to /etc/portage/package.keywords

dev-util/subversion ~x86


 Regards

 Joe


-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Touble with linux-headers

2007-04-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 30 April 2007, Holla wrote:
 OK, I get it now. I was under the (wrong) impression that
 the kernel headers should match the kernel installed.
 So, if portage is trying to install linux-headers-2.6.17
 it is because that is the stable headers for 2.6, right ?

Not quite...

nazgul cvs-src # eix linux-headers
[I] sys-kernel/linux-headers
 Available versions:  *2.0.40-r1 *2.2.26-r1 2.4.26-r1 (~)2.4.33.3 
2.6.8.1-r4 2.6.11-r2 (~)2.6.11-r3 *2.6.11-r4 2.6.11-r5 *2.6.11-r6 
*2.6.16 (~)2.6.17 2.6.17-r1 2.6.17-r2 (~)2.6.19.2-r2 (~)2.6.20 (~)
2.6.20-r1 (~)2.6.20-r2
 Installed versions:  2.6.20-r2(18:30:20 03/18/07)
 Homepage:http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
 Description: Linux system headers

linux-headers-2.6.17-r1 is the collection of headers in the portage tree 
that the Gentoo devs have marked stable (and causes least breakage).

There is no official set of headers fromt he kernel project. You might 
find some knowledgeable kernel dev who makes a recommendation, but 
that's something different.

As it turns out, I am using 2.6.20-r2 headers and they work for me. 
Generally, if you run a stable arch system, you should stick with 
whatever system packages that portage wants to merge

alan



-- 
Optimists say the glass is half full,
Pessimists say the glass is half empty,
Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be?

Alan McKinnon
alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za
+27 82, double three seven, one nine three five
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Touble with linux-headers

2007-04-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 30. April 2007, Holla wrote:
 On 4/30/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  On Montag, 30. April 2007, Holla wrote:
   Hello,
  
   I would like to install my own version of the kernel (2.6.18.3)
   which i have compiled and installed. This is working fine.
  
   But when I try to do 'emerge system', portage is
   trying to emerge linux-headers also. How can I prevent
   it ?
 
  why? Why do you want to prevent it?

 OK, I get it now. I was under the (wrong) impression that
 the kernel headers should match the kernel installed.

sometimes, if there is a new feature, it makes sense, but usually, it really 
does not matter. Some distributions even use headers which are derived from 
2.4 kernels. AFAIR Redhat did that for a long time.

 So, if portage is trying to install linux-headers-2.6.17
 it is because that is the stable headers for 2.6, right ?

exactly. 

 I even went to the extent of doing a
 make headers_check
 export INSTALL_HDR_PATH=/usr
 make headers_install

 in the kernel build directory.

 I see this is stupid now..

well, they (the kernel devs) are working on the headers to make 
them 'userspace save'. When this work is finished, it will be the right thing 
to do. But this is still way in the future - I would not expect this to work 
really well before the end of the year.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Subversion 1.4.3

2007-04-30 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen
Nistor Andrei wrote:
 On Monday 30 April 2007, Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
   
 Hi

 I have currently installed version 1.3.2-r3 of subversion, but I have
 installed th latest version of subclipse (svn plugin for the eclipse
 platform), and now I can't use svn from the shell.

 I get
 svn: This client is too old to work with working copy '.'; please get a
 newer Subversion client

 no matter what command i run.

 I guess I have to upgrade to a new version of svn, but how  do I explain
 emerge that I want the 1.4.3 version?

 runing:

 emerge -va subversion

 only allows me to reinstall version 1.3.2-r3
 

 Try 

 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~arch emerge subversion

 Replace arch with your architecture: x86, amd64, whatever...

 This is only temporary, next time you'll update world it'l revert to 1.3.2.

 To make it permanent, untill 1.4.3 goes stable, add this line 
 to /etc/portage/package.keywords

 dev-util/subversion ~x86

   
 Regards

 Joe
 


   
Thanks... that was all that was needed... everything works nicely again.

Joe
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus

2007-04-30 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Boyd,
on Friday, 2007-04-27 at 02:09:18, you wrote:
 Adjust your LC_ALL, LC_COLLATE, and/or LANG environment variables.  (At 
 least, 
 Nautilus /should/ respect those.)  You might have to do something like:
 LC_ALL=POSIX nautilus
 from a xterm-like application.

Usually the collation order should be the same on the shell and in
nautilus, right? I think it's really some of what the Gnome folks think
was clever in that case---nautilus also completely ignores certain name
prefixes like + and _ I put there to have the entries sorted on top.
Fortunately, Thunar does no such tricks.

 You can use
 env | grep ^L
 from a new xterm-like seesion to see what nautilus sees by default.

Or locale :)

BTW, your signature did not validate on this post. Do you have
no-escape-from-lines enabled? Then the last line above would have been
the reason.

cheers!
  Matthias
-- 
I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665
Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0  8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665


pgpNHsqQSRS4d.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-user] NFS vs. jumbo frames

2007-04-30 Thread Matthias Bethke
On Tuesday, 2007-04-24 at 15:38:12, I wrote:
 I have googled for quite a while but can't find a thing.
 Anyone here using NFS and GigE+jumbo frames with Gentoo?

Just to follow up for the archives' sake: this seems to be an old and
frustrating problem, I've run into a few messages dating back to 2002 of
people with similar problems. Like here:
http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2002-December/005568.html
and a more recent one on Sun hardware:
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=74750

I've switched back to MTU 1500 for now and if I find the time I'll ask
for news on this on some kernel list.

cheers!
  Matthias
-- 
I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665
Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0  8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665


pgplWDFOWQBJq.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-user] the font in xfce change after updating

2007-04-30 Thread Chuanwen Wu

2007/4/30, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Chuanwen Wu wrote:
  Sat Apr 28 16:34:59 2007  xfce-base/xfce4-4.4.1

Hmm, it looks like you're running unstable xfce.  But if you can't
handle the problems this might give, then you shouldn't be using
unstable.

Try commenting out all xfce lines in /etc/portage/package.keywords,
re-update your system and see if that solves the problem.  If so,
then figure out which of the xfce updates causes the problem.  Also
check https://bugs.gentoo.org to see whether the problem has
already been reported.

Benno
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Now I degrade xfce to 4.4.0 and everything is OK! I didn't change anything else.

And when I do etc-update again,I noticed that these files need to update:

/etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/launcher-10.rc
/etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/launcher-8.rc
/etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/panels.xml
/etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/launcher-7.rc
/etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/launcher-9.rc
/etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/systray-4.rc
/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc
/etc/xdg/autostart/xfce4-tips-autostart.desktop

I think maybe one of them causes the fonts problem...

Anyway,the problem is fixed!

Thank you all!
--
wcw
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.20-r6 panics with strange message

2007-04-30 Thread maxim wexler

--- Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Montag, 30. April 2007 schrieb ext maxim wexler:
  Hi group,
 
  The new kernel panics at a typical place:
  ...
  VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block
 (8,7)
 
  From the new, 2.6.20 .config:
 
  CONFIG_SCSI=y
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
  CONFIG_ATA=y
  CONFIG_SATA_SIL=y
 Well, without
 
 CONFIG_SCSI=y
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
 
 you won't be able to boot from a SATA disk. So
 re-enabling them should solve 
 the problem.

Huh? They *are* enabled.

-mw

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.20-r6 panics with strange message

2007-04-30 Thread maxim wexler
  Yes, CONFIG_UNIX=y
 
 that is not the reiserfs option.

I'm aware of that. But another PC with the 2.6.19
kernel and an IDE drive panicked until I set
CONFIG_UNIX=y. Didn't help in this case.

-mw

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.20-r6 panics with strange message

2007-04-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 30. April 2007, maxim wexler wrote:
   Yes, CONFIG_UNIX=y
 
  that is not the reiserfs option.

 I'm aware of that. But another PC with the 2.6.19
 kernel and an IDE drive panicked until I set
 CONFIG_UNIX=y. Didn't help in this case.

well, you should have set sockets, because it is THAT way to communicate with 
the kernel.  So CONFIG_UNIX has to be y.

about your problem - do make menuconfig and recheck your driver and fs 
settings.
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Spamassassin and sendmail

2007-04-30 Thread Michael Sullivan
This wiki article looks to be for postfix.  I need one for sendmail...

On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 15:55 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Michael Sullivan wrote:
  Can anyone tell me how to integrate sendmail and spamassassin?
 
 This wiki page talks about it:
 
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Email_System_for_the_Home_Network
 
 HTH!
 
 R
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
 
 iD8DBQFGNPgc7So1xaF/eR8RAspbAJ4kBhw7dnWHHKbTo/6hma1oB9j0mACfYCKI
 oS+n4z4Ry5tZ+cDW6HdqmKI=
 =0nKL
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.20-r6 panics with strange message

2007-04-30 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

Am Montag, den 30.04.2007, 17:24 +0200 schrieb Hemmann, Volker Armin:
 On Montag, 30. April 2007, maxim wexler wrote:
Yes, CONFIG_UNIX=y
  
   that is not the reiserfs option.
 
  I'm aware of that. But another PC with the 2.6.19
  kernel and an IDE drive panicked until I set
  CONFIG_UNIX=y. Didn't help in this case.
 
 well, you should have set sockets, because it is THAT way to communicate with 
 the kernel.  So CONFIG_UNIX has to be y.

Nope, Unix sockets are usually not the commonly chosen way for
kernel-userland communication. They're used for machine-local (w/
exception of clusters) inter-process communication. But I think that
init would struggle w/o CONFIG_UNIX and, of course, udev. So Maxim might
have hit problems there. But that's just nitpicking here ;-)

@OP: You can scroll kernel boot output using Shift-PgUp/-PgDown. From
what you can see there you should be able to tell whether your HD is
recognized or not and what's its device name (which you must hand to
the kernel via the root=... kernel command line parameter).

-hwh
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.20-r6 panics with strange message

2007-04-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 30. April 2007, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:


 Nope, Unix sockets are usually not the commonly chosen way for
 kernel-userland communication. They're used for machine-local (w/
 exception of clusters) inter-process communication. But I think that
 init would struggle w/o CONFIG_UNIX and, of course, udev. So Maxim might
 have hit problems there. But that's just nitpicking here ;-)

you forgot X.
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Spamassassin and sendmail

2007-04-30 Thread Jarry

Michael Sullivan wrote:

Can anyone tell me how to integrate sendmail and spamassassin?  All my
efforts till now have failed.  Here's my info:

baby ~ # emerge -pv sendmail spamassassin procmail


I think you should emerge mail-filter/spamass-milter, then look
into doc, and edit /etc/mail/sendmail.mc.

I think you must add these lines before any mailer line:
INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`spamassassin', `S=local:/var/run/spamass-milter.sock, 
F=, T=C:15m;S:4m;R:4m;E:10m')dnl
define(`confMILTER_MACROS_CONNECT',`b, j, _, {daemon_name}, {if_name}, 
{if_addr}')dnl


Finally create sendmail.cf
m4 /etc/mail/sendmail.mc  /etc/mail/sendmail.cf

Jarry
--
___
This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists!
Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



[gentoo-user] {OT} Burning a video file

2007-04-30 Thread Grant

Does anyone know of a way to burn a video to CD to play back on a home
DVD player?  The player supports VCD but not SVCD, and VCD quality is
really bad.  I have a CD burner at my disposal here, but not a DVD
burner.

- Grant
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



[gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

2007-04-30 Thread Roy Wright
Howdy,

First I'm running ~x86 with the Xeffects overlay (Beryl- on nvidia).

When doing a emerge -uDNav world, I had missed that the kdelibs-3.5.6-r7
being updated was from portage instead of from the xeffects overlay.
This caused kicker to crash first time I'd clicked on an icon.

OK, no problem, I just logged in using gnome-2.16.2 for a day, while
compiling
kdelibs from the overlay.

Now I'm back into KDE and kicker is no longer crashing.

But all my nicely arranged K menus are gone, replaced by the unorganized
mess that looks like the default gnome menus.

Is there any way to recover?  Or do I just have to take the hour or two
and recreate my menu structure?

Is this clashing of menu structures normal between window managers?
If so, any tools for backing up the menu structure?  Or a way to tell gnome
to use kde menu structure?

Also I don't understand how or where the menu structure is defined on
disk.  Any good references?

TIA,
Roy

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] NFS vs. jumbo frames

2007-04-30 Thread kashani

Matthias Bethke wrote:

On Tuesday, 2007-04-24 at 15:38:12, I wrote:

I have googled for quite a while but can't find a thing.
Anyone here using NFS and GigE+jumbo frames with Gentoo?


Just to follow up for the archives' sake: this seems to be an old and
frustrating problem, I've run into a few messages dating back to 2002 of
people with similar problems. Like here:
http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2002-December/005568.html
and a more recent one on Sun hardware:
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=74750

I've switched back to MTU 1500 for now and if I find the time I'll ask
for news on this on some kernel list.


Neither of these cases should have any relation to your problem since 
they talking about NFS on a 2.4 kernel or over UDP in NFSv2.


kashani
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

2007-04-30 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Monday 30 Apr 2007 10:57:08 pm Roy Wright wrote:

 Is this clashing of menu structures normal between window managers?
 If so, any tools for backing up the menu structure?  Or a way to tell gnome
 to use kde menu structure?

I can't help much as I don't run GNOME along with KDE but this menu looks nice 
for people who do
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/K+Menu+Gnome+(source)?content=31025

-- 
Regards,
Abhay


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

2007-04-30 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Roy Wright:

 Is there any way to recover?  Or do I just have to take the hour or two
 and recreate my menu structure?

Perhaps try kappfinder...or perhaps use the desktop settings wizard to change 
back to default state if kappfinder doesn't work.

 Is this clashing of menu structures normal between window managers?
 If so, any tools for backing up the menu structure?  Or a way to tell gnome
 to use kde menu structure?

I believe this is because of the 'freedesktop' standard[1] or whatever. From 
what I have gleamed from various mailing lists it creates more clashes than 
integration (I cannot speak personally on this as I don't run Gnome). Though, 
I of course may be wrong here.

 Also I don't understand how or where the menu structure is defined on
 disk.  Any good references?

Have a look in ~/.kde/share/applnk

As for docs on this: ???...

 TIA,
 Roy

[1] http://freedesktop.org/wiki

-d
-- 
darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org
...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected...
- Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

2007-04-30 Thread Elias Probst
On Monday 30 April 2007 23:18:00 darren kirby wrote:
 quoth the Roy Wright:
  Also I don't understand how or where the menu structure is defined on
  disk.  Any good references?

 Have a look in ~/.kde/share/applnk

Take also a look at ~/.local/share/applnk

Regards, Elias P.


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


Re: [gentoo-user] [Solved]KDE menu structure lost by using gnome

2007-04-30 Thread Roy Wright
Elias Probst wrote:
 On Monday 30 April 2007 23:18:00 darren kirby wrote:
   
 quoth the Roy Wright:
 
 Also I don't understand how or where the menu structure is defined on
 disk.  Any good references?
   
 Have a look in ~/.kde/share/applnk
 

 Take also a look at ~/.local/share/applnk

 Regards, Elias P.
   


Howdy,

I found some documentation at:  http://docs.kde.org/userguide/kde-menu.html

After poking around a little, I decided to just start rebuilding the
menus, so
first ran kappfinder, did an apply, then magically all my menus were back!

FYI, these files were changed by kappfinder:

./.kde3.5/share/config/kdeglobals
./.kde3.5/share/config/kwinrulesrc


Thank you,
Roy
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.20-r6 panics with strange message FIXED

2007-04-30 Thread maxim wexler

 about your problem - do make menuconfig and recheck
 your driver and fs 
 settings.

It was a driver. In the 2.6.16 config under 
#
#SCSI low-level drivers 
#
I had this: CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_NV=y

But for the 2.6.20 this option has been moved to
#
#Serial ATA (prod) and Parallel ATA (experimental)
drivers 
#

and shortened to CONFIG_SATA_NV.

So I set it to 'y' and the PC booted no problem.

FWIW, this particular panic resulted in a complete
freeze up. Keyboard useless. No scrolling possible.
But the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LEDs blinked off and
on at ~1 sec intervals. Which I hadn't noticed before.

-mw


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Disk partition query

2007-04-30 Thread Stuart Howard

I went brave and tried Alans method, I wanted a tidy disk :)

Not to worry but for me [dont know my error ] it did not work and
killed my XP install, so reverted back to method A essentially and
reinstalled wingaming XP so all is fine now.
I shall consider it a lesson to remember to save! up on primary
partitions next time. Thanks all for trying.

stu

On 30/04/07, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Monday 30 April 2007, Stuart Howard wrote:
 I have made an annoying error when setting up my new computer.
 I installed Gentoo then winXP and made it dual boot, all of which has
 gone fine however when I did this I partitioned my disk as shown the
 theory being that I would assign space as required after all
 installation. Unfortunatly I made the 4 partitions all primary! and
 now I cannot make more partitions to consume the extra space.

Easy. Use fdisk, and write down the start and end cylinders of the 4th
partition.

Then delete it.

Yes, delete it. No, I'm not tricking you.

Now create an extended partition using all available cylinders, and
create a logical partition with the same start and end cylinders as the
original one you deleted.

Save, quit, reboot

alan


--
Optimists say the glass is half full,
Pessimists say the glass is half empty,
Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be?

Alan McKinnon
alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za
+27 82, double three seven, one nine three five
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list





--
There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand
binary, those who don't

--Unknown
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus

2007-04-30 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 14:29 +0200, Matthias Bethke wrote:

 Usually the collation order should be the same on the shell and in
 nautilus, right?

one would think so, but this isn't the case...

  I think it's really some of what the Gnome folks think
 was clever in that case

yes and no - I understand clever if they sort, for example, 1.xxx,
2.xxx ... 9.xxx, 10.xxx; which previously has always been sorted 1.xxx,
10.xxx, 2.xxx ...; but I don't understand clever with regard to the
backwards-hexadecimal sorting.  Why does 'A' come before '1'?

 ---nautilus also completely ignores certain name
 prefixes like + and _ I put there to have the entries sorted on top.
 Fortunately, Thunar does no such tricks.

well, thunar looks great - I just installed it hoping it would help my
hexadecimal files, but unfortunately it suffers from the same problem as
nautilus here.

thanks,
-- 
Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au

How do I love thee?  My accumulator overflows.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Spamassassin and sendmail

2007-04-30 Thread Randy Barlow
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Michael Sullivan wrote:
 This wiki article looks to be for postfix.  I need one for sendmail...

Aww man, sorry about that.  I wrote that when I was really tired... :P

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFGNov+7So1xaF/eR8RAifXAJ4p8fOFsYo/jB1whAZRzUDinlCAXwCdHuUh
/XnF5XJQwPjmzZ4W9TQ7Lbo=
=GKlj
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



[gentoo-user] emerge -uDN world minus one package

2007-04-30 Thread Jesse Adelman
Hi, all. I want to do an emerge -uDN world, mostly to update Xorg to the 
newest
stable version. However, I have one package that I don't want to update, that
being media-tv/mythtv. Now, the version of mythtv (and associated mythtv 
plugins)
that I have installed currently has been removed from Portage, so the normal
package.mask changes don't appear to work and only offer a downgrade. I know I
could just do each update individually (and get around this), but I'd like to 
stay
lazy and let emerge -uDN world just work. ;)

The nitty gritty:

I have installed:

media-tv/mythtv-0.20_p13288

Portage has an update:

media-tv/mythtv-0.20.1_p13344

But when I put this into package.mask

=media-tv/mythtv-0.20.1_p13344

It then wants to downgrade to:

media-tv/mythtv-0.20_p13110

which I don't want.

Any suggestions? When faced with a similar problem in the distant past, I've
grabbed the old ebuild from CVS for mythtv (and plugins) and put it in an 
overlay,
but that seems so inelegant... I'm not without a remedy, I just hope to find 
out a
less invasive/cumbersome way to accomplish this.

Thanks in advance,

Jesse Adelman
San Francisco, CA
begin:vcard
fn:Jesse Adelman
n:Adelman;Jesse
email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
note:Linux Systems Administrator
x-mozilla-html:FALSE
url:http://www.ilikelinux.com/
version:2.1
end:vcard



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDN world minus one package

2007-04-30 Thread Vikas Kumar
On 17:43 Mon 30 Apr , Jesse Adelman wrote:
 
 The nitty gritty:
 
 I have installed:
 
 media-tv/mythtv-0.20_p13288
 
 Portage has an update:
 
 media-tv/mythtv-0.20.1_p13344
 
 But when I put this into package.mask
 
 =media-tv/mythtv-0.20.1_p13344
 
 It then wants to downgrade to:
 
 media-tv/mythtv-0.20_p13110
 
 which I don't want.
 
 Any suggestions? When faced with a similar problem in the distant past, I've
 grabbed the old ebuild from CVS for mythtv (and plugins) and put it in an 
 overlay,
 but that seems so inelegant... I'm not without a remedy, I just hope to find 
 out a
 less invasive/cumbersome way to accomplish this.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 

Adding media-tv/mythtv-0.20.1_p13344 to /etc/portage/package.provided
sholud work.

-- 
* * * * * THIS TERMINAL IS IN USE * * * * *

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list



Re: [gentoo-user] Problem install Gentoo on New Laptop - Solved

2007-04-30 Thread Colleen Beamer
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Montag, 30. April 2007 schrieb ext Graham Murray:
 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Sata support may not be enough. Since all the SATA stuff has been put
 into the SCSI subsystem, you would need support for SCSI disks (and
 maybe CDRoms as well):
 In the latest kernels, SATA is no longer in the SCSI subsystem but has
 been 'split' into its own libata subsystem.

Thanks so much to everyone who replied to this thread.  I *had* missed
something when compiling the kernel.  I paid attention to all responses
and the suggestions made caused me to pay closer attention to my kernel
selections and this paid off.

Regards,

Colleen
-- 

Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list