Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -f
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 07:42:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, does the emptytree (-e) option basically tell it that you don't have ANYTHING instlled where it should be? :P Yes, it empties the depend tree. So portage thinks that no software is installed. -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 07:01 +0200, Naga wrote: According to some devs on -dev (IRC) last night about 50 GiB if you want _all_ distfiles. hm, it has been a while since I last read the handbook. There were a small number of files to rsync back then :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Anyone can make an omelet with eggs. The trick is to make one with none. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -f
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, does the emptytree (-e) option basically tell it that you don't have ANYTHING instlled where it should be? :P Well, if you do a emerge -e world, it will recompile everything on your system. I do mean everything. On mine it takes a little over 48 hours. That is usually only done to fix something as a last resort or when upgrading gcc. That help? Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part.
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 07:39:55 Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 07:01 +0200, Naga wrote: According to some devs on -dev (IRC) last night about 50 GiB if you want _all_ distfiles. Found it :) A-How much space does a distfiles mirror need? B-58G B-well, that's what it needs actually, probably in the docs it has it specified C-i'll check that actual present usage for you, one sec C-distfiles/ right now is 44Gb going out C-historical distfiles since early 2005 is ~150Gb (A,B,C == anon devs :)) hm, it has been a while since I last read the handbook. There were a small number of files to rsync back then :) or it was refering to the use of http-replicator (local http-mirror for use as distfiles mirror on LAN) -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Here goes... How large is the package archive for gentoo, assuming a full copy of the portage tree, and all of the source tarballs in the distfiles directory of the average server? dunno, but huge. Would it be possible to draw down the whole archive all in one shot using wget or similar, dump it all into a directory on the hard drive, and direct portage there for the distribution files? yes, choose a mirror. download the complete distfiles dir of that mirror. wget can do that. I know this would basically be equivelent to making a local mirror of the distrservers, and I would have to make sure that my portage tree matches up to the files actually on the hard drive. ^^ What other concerns would I need to look at at this point. :P you will waste a lot of bandwidth and diskspace. The mirror might hate you for it. You will have lots and lots of packages like packageX.1.1, packageX.1.1.0, packageX.1.1.1 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
-Original Message- From: Hemmann, Volker Armin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:34 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question On Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Here goes... How large is the package archive for gentoo, assuming a full copy of the portage tree, and all of the source tarballs in the distfiles directory of the average server? dunno, but huge. snip you will waste a lot of bandwidth and diskspace. The mirror might hate you for it. You will have lots and lots of packages like packageX.1.1, packageX.1.1.0, packageX.1.1.1 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I think that a better option may be to decide which software I want, and use emerge -ef package on each of the big packages to get just what I need. Maybe setting up a stage three install, with just the kernel, boot loader, and portage and using 'emerge -ef world' first might have the desired effect as far as getting the base system first. :-) That would also let me make sure that I have an up to date portage tree, and just the files I need and maybe a few more. ^^;; Does that sound better, and less likely to piss off the mirrors? :P --- Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Linux (Ubuntu) on a USB drive doesn't save
I have an ancient Gateway 200ARC sans notebook hard drive (amongst other things). I don't have the stupid little ribbon cable so I can't install one either. And they charge like $50 for one. The notebook was free, and a 1GB USB stick is only $20. a 2GB is like $40. I wanted to install Linux on it to use it as an always-on thin client that can just monitor some webpages, and do a few other basic tasks. I followed this guide: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-us ers/#more-117 And used Ubuntu 7.04. It worked great. I can boot and get online and all sorts of things. However, nothing saves !!!? As in nothing is persistent. I can create the file and see it in the directory, edit it, and all that jazz. But upon a reboot, it's gone!? I created a .vimrc and rebooted and it's gone! I apt-get install some apps and they're not there now. I save my gnome settings. Revert back each time I reboot. So what am I missing? Am I retarded and you can't use a 1GB USB stick as a real hard drive like that? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Hemmann, Volker Armin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:34 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question On Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Here goes... How large is the package archive for gentoo, assuming a full copy of the portage tree, and all of the source tarballs in the distfiles directory of the average server? dunno, but huge. snip you will waste a lot of bandwidth and diskspace. The mirror might hate you for it. You will have lots and lots of packages like packageX.1.1, packageX.1.1.0, packageX.1.1.1 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I think that a better option may be to decide which software I want, and use emerge -ef package on each of the big packages to get just what I need. Maybe setting up a stage three install, with just the kernel, boot loader, and portage and using 'emerge -ef world' first might have the desired effect as far as getting the base system first. :-) That would also let me make sure that I have an up to date portage tree, and just the files I need and maybe a few more. ^^;; Does that sound better, and less likely to piss off the mirrors? :P yes ;) but why not set 'parallel-fetch' in your make.conf? That way portage should download packages, while compiling? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Linux (Ubuntu) on a USB drive doesn't save
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 23:44 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: [snip] I followed this guide: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-us ers/#more-117 And used Ubuntu 7.04. It worked great. I can boot and get online and all sorts of things. However, nothing saves !!!? I'm not qualified to answer this question because I've never used Ubuntu; I've never booted from a usb key; and I'm on the gentoo-user ml ;) buuut maybe the usb key boot idea works like a live-cd and loads your filesystem into a RAM disk? In which case, changed you made wouldn't actually be saved... you could add another partition to the key for persistent storage perhaps? HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au We are each entitled to our own opinion, but no one is entitled to his own facts. -- Patrick Moynihan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
-Original Message- From: Hemmann, Volker Armin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:02 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question snip That would also let me make sure that I have an up to date portage tree, and just the files I need and maybe a few more. ^^;; Does that sound better, and less likely to piss off the mirrors? :P yes ;) but why not set 'parallel-fetch' in your make.conf? That way portage should download packages, while compiling? -- The next computer I build will likely be a dual core (an X2 most likely), so that may be an excellent option. :P -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Tue, 22 May 2007 16:13:11 +0900 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Hemmann, Volker Armin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:02 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question snip That would also let me make sure that I have an up to date portage tree, and just the files I need and maybe a few more. ^^;; Does that sound better, and less likely to piss off the mirrors? :P yes ;) but why not set 'parallel-fetch' in your make.conf? That way portage should download packages, while compiling? -- The next computer I build will likely be a dual core (an X2 most likely), so that may be an excellent option. :P I don't think you'll need much processing power to parallel-fetch. I do it on every computer with a fast enough internet connection. The real limit is disk and network for downloading, not at all processor. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
-Original Message- From: Dan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:27 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question On Tue, 22 May 2007 16:13:11 +0900 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The next computer I build will likely be a dual core (an X2 most likely), so that may be an excellent option. :P I don't think you'll need much processing power to parallel-fetch. I do it on every computer with a fast enough internet connection. The real limit is disk and network for downloading, not at all processor. -- I think RAM is an issue also. I have been messing with a laptop with 512MB of ram, and it is nowhere near as quick as what I am used too. ^^;; -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Tue, 22 May 2007 16:42:38 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think you'll need much processing power to parallel-fetch. I do it on every computer with a fast enough internet connection. The real limit is disk and network for downloading, not at all processor. I think RAM is an issue also. I have been messing with a laptop with 512MB of ram, and it is nowhere near as quick as what I am used too. ^^;; parallel-fetch needs significant amounts of neither RAM nor CPU power, all it needs is enough to run an instance of wget in the background. -- Neil Bothwick Committee (noun): A life form with six or more legs and no brain. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Theoretical install Question
On Tue, 22 May 2007 03:07:57 -0500, »Q« wrote: If you populate your world file first (by hand if you like), then one emerge -ef world should get you all the files you might need. That won't work, portage will complain that there is a problem with our world file and bail out. Put the packages you want in a file like world then do emerge -ef $(cat myworld). -- Neil Bothwick Boss spelled backwards is double-SOB signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok, track length and moodbar problem...
On 5/22/07, Nistor Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but i'm experiencing some weird behaviour in Amarok. The problem is that with some songs the length is not displayed. I'm unable to scroll forwards or backwards in the song, and moodbar does not work on those songs either. Do you have any idea why this is happening? I've attached a screenshot... I have the same problem: some song's length uncknown and they are unscollable. I'm NOT using moodbar, and using xine engine. When I'm trying to play this tracks with mplayer, it shows some errors, so I assume this tracks is a bit damaged. I heard about some mp3 repair tool. -- Vladimir Rusinov GreenMice Solutions: IT-решения на базе Linux http://greenmice.info/
Re: [gentoo-user] cannot emerge sys-block/nbd
Hi, On Mon, 21 May 2007 22:38:48 -0400 Michael George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to emerge sys-block/nbd for my LTSP system. I get the error: configure: error: Could not find an nbd.h from 2.6 or above. What's the version of your linux-headers package? But locate nbd.h gives me: /usr/include/linux/nbd.h That should be it. I'm using gcc 4.1.2, if that makes a difference. Anyone else have this trouble? Nope, compiles like a charm. I think you're probably having old headers in /usr/include/linux, maybe for LTSP. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok, track length and moodbar problem...
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 11:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/22/07, Nistor Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but i'm experiencing some weird behaviour in Amarok. The problem is that with some songs the length is not displayed. I'm unable to scroll forwards or backwards in the song, and moodbar does not work on those songs either. Do you have any idea why this is happening? I've attached a screenshot... I have the same problem: some song's length uncknown and they are unscollable. I'm NOT using moodbar, and using xine engine. When I'm trying to play this tracks with mplayer, it shows some errors, so I assume this tracks is a bit damaged. I heard about some mp3 repair tool. Hi, Amarok has an mp3 fixer, click on Tools Script manager and I have mp3 fixer listed under General, but I might have downloaded it using Get more scripts button. Hope this helps, its fixed a few with length problems for me. Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 08:30:44 Naga wrote: B-well, that's what it needs actually, probably in the docs it has it specified http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/source_mirrors.xml -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -f
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 08:01:19 Naga wrote: So, does the emptytree (-e) option basically tell it that you don't have ANYTHING instlled where it should be? :P Yes, it empties the depend tree. So portage thinks that no software is installed. That's an implementation detail that used to be true but isn't any longer. That's why it no longer says [ebuild N] for all packages with -e. Doing so caused problems with circular dependencies. It just remerges everything in world and all their dependencies. Calling it 'everything' is wrong too as it doesn't do anything with packages that aren't in world or a dependency of something in world. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Tue, 22 May 2007 08:34:16 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Here goes... How large is the package archive for gentoo, assuming a full copy of the portage tree, and all of the source tarballs in the distfiles directory of the average server? Bigger than you want to download, that 's almost guaranteed. I know this would basically be equivelent to making a local mirror of the distrservers, and I would have to make sure that my portage tree matches up to the files actually on the hard drive. ^^ What other concerns would I need to look at at this point. :P you will waste a lot of bandwidth and diskspace. The mirror might hate you for it. You will have lots and lots of packages like packageX.1.1, packageX.1.1.0, packageX.1.1.1 Not to mention you will spend much longer waiting for everything to download then you'd have to wait for everything do download on demand. It would probably be more desirable for you to keep a network-shared distfiles than mirror the servers. Then there's the age-old 'static hosts file' problem - just like the giant host file describing everyone took longer to transfer than to become outdated back in the glorious days of UNIX, it will also probably take longer to dowload all distfiles ever than it will for those distfiles to become outdated. In conclusion, I think this is a rather silly idea. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok, track length and moodbar problem...
On Tuesday 22 May 2007, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Montag, 21. Mai 2007, Nistor Andrei wrote: Hello list, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but i'm experiencing some weird behaviour in Amarok. The problem is that with some songs the length is not displayed. I'm unable to scroll forwards or backwards in the song, and moodbar does not work on those songs either. Do you have any idea why this is happening? I've attached a screenshot... moodbar? isn't it hardmasked and highly experimental? It's in ~x86 and the rest of your problems: which backend are you using? The xine backend. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok, track length and moodbar problem...
On Tuesday 22 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the same problem: some song's length uncknown and they are unscollable. I'm NOT using moodbar, and using xine engine. I think my tracks are fine, mplayer doesn't display any errors about them... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Linux (Ubuntu) on a USB drive doesn't save
On 5/22/07, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I followed this guide: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-us ers/#more-117 Reading that, I wonder where Gentoo fits in... It even uses a Ubuntu LiveCD to CREATE the system... However, nothing saves !!!? As in nothing is persistent. I can create the file and see it in the directory, edit it, and all that jazz. But upon a reboot, it's gone!? I never used Ubuntu, neither tried this tutorial, but I've read it, and there's something about a read/write partition being used to retain stuff you change, are you sure you followed the guide completely, including making and formatting that special partition? -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] ssh Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts
For some reason, my SSH (openssh-4.5_p1-r1) refuses to remember any hosts I connect to, and even if I keep connecting to the same machine over and over, it still wants me to OK the RSA fingerprint manually. Here's the verbose output when I try to connect to a known machine: ssh -v XX.xx.xxx OpenSSH_4.5p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8d 28 Sep 2006 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Connecting to XX.xx.xxx [xxx.xxx.xx.xx] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/myuser/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /home/myuser/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/myuser/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_3.5p1 debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.5p1 pat OpenSSH_3.* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.5 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server-client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client-server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(102410248192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY The authenticity of host 'XX.xx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xx.xx)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is (SOME RSA KEY GOES HERE) Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts (/home/myuser/.ssh/known_hosts). debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Trying private key: /home/myuser/.ssh/identity debug1: Trying private key: /home/myuser/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Trying private key: /home/myuser/.ssh/id_dsa debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: password It would not create any files under my /home/myuser/.ssh/ directory. When I tried to create a file there manually, it said permission denied. Do I need to be added to some group to fix these permissions? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Denis wrote: Do I need to be added to some group to fix these permissions? ls -ld /home/username/.ssh should say that the dir belongs to username, and have rwx permissions for it. You probably moved your home directory using root, or something like that. chown username: /home/username/.ssh chown username: /home/username/.ssh/* chmod 700 /home/username/.ssh chmod 600 /home/username.ssh/* do that with root if you can. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica OpenPGP for HTTP: New Web-Auth Scheme: http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/2599 Consulting and Secure Mail Hosting: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGU0MzAlpOsGhXcE0RCpF1AJwK79lu6W5Nl7KTFIwFBcC/hI7o5wCfa29s ZxaW7vdWIwXwF/MYSSD5FCo= =ZoZu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Linux (Ubuntu) on a USB drive doesn't save
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 08:13, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 23:44 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: [snip] I followed this guide: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-us ers/#more-117 And used Ubuntu 7.04. It worked great. I can boot and get online and all sorts of things. However, nothing saves !!!? I'm not qualified to answer this question because I've never used Ubuntu; I've never booted from a usb key; and I'm on the gentoo-user ml ;) buuut maybe the usb key boot idea works like a live-cd and loads your filesystem into a RAM disk? In which case, changed you made wouldn't actually be saved... you could add another partition to the key for persistent storage perhaps? Most of Iain's caveats apply here too, but judging from Knoppix you need to pass some boot options to the kernel to let it know where your config files are saved . . . assuming of course that Ubuntu on a LiveCD/USB has this level of sophistication. Hope this helps. -- Regards, Mick pgp8UkwGcmJZ4.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Howto Read the Fine Manual
Hi! This question is so basic it's nearly embarrassing to ask... Why doesn't apropos or man -k find anything? For example: # man -k man man: nothing appropriate Thanks in advance Florian Philipp pgpqzhnBchGEd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Howto Read the Fine Manual
On Tue, 22 May 2007 22:09:33 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! This question is so basic it's nearly embarrassing to ask... Why doesn't apropos or man -k find anything? For example: # man -k man man: nothing appropriate Thanks in advance Florian Philipp you need to build the database first. try 'makewhatis' as root -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Touchscreens under linux
Hi! For my Musicbox[1] project, I am looking for a way to control a mpd[2] with a touchscreen. The device I have in mind is a 10,2 VGA / USB touchscreen. I assume it is supported by linux. If I understand correctly, the touchscreen is (if used correctly) just another way to control the mouse pointer. Is that right? Do I have to use X to use the touchscreen, or can I use it with gpm or SDL? Does anybody know a client for mpd ([2]) that works without X an can be controlled with a touchscreen? Maybe using SDL? If there is no client that works without X, does anybody know something that will work as an onscreen-keyboard? Timo PS: yes, I have read the howto[3] [1] http://blog.spida.net/index.php?/archives/9-Powerusage-II-Musicbox.html [2] http://www.musicpd.org/ [3] http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree86-Touch-Screen-HOWTO.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts
You probably moved your home directory using root, or something like that. I don't remember doing that, but maybe I missed something during an install, who knows... chown username: /home/username/.ssh chown username: /home/username/.ssh/* chmod 700 /home/username/.ssh chmod 600 /home/username.ssh/* Yep, this solved it. I just wasn't sure if the user was supposed to belong to some group for this to work automatically, but I guess not... Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Howto Read the Fine Manual
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 22:09:33 Florian Philipp wrote: Why doesn't apropos or man -k find anything? For example: # man -k man man: nothing appropriate sys-apps/man installs a cron job in /etc/cron.daily/makewhatis. Did you install a cron daemon? Is it configured to run cron jobs in /etc/cron.*/ ? (vixie-cron defaults to that). http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=9#doc_chap2 -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Touchscreens under linux
Timo Boettcher spida at spida.net writes: For my Musicbox[1] project, I am looking for a way to control a mpd[2] with a touchscreen. The device I have in mind is a 10,2 VGA / USB touchscreen. I assume it is supported by linux. Hello Timo, I have not set one up, but, if my memory is correct, there is a driver to enable for a few specific brands, in the kernel sources. Poke around in the kernel sources and look for info... hth, James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: A Theoretical install Question
That won't work, portage will complain that there is a problem with our world file and bail out. Ah, thanks. I didn't realize emerge was unhappy with packages in world which are not already installed. Put the packages you want in a file like world then do emerge -ef $(cat myworld). -- Q Another option might be to just go ahead and buckle down and 'emerge -au world', then start the process. ^^ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Theoretical install Question
On Wed, 23 May 2007 08:09:04 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put the packages you want in a file like world then do emerge -ef $(cat myworld). Another option might be to just go ahead and buckle down and 'emerge -au world', then start the process. Which won't do much if your world file is more or less empty. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as the media exposed his sexual depravity. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
-Original Message- From: Dan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:27 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question Not to mention you will spend much longer waiting for everything to download then you'd have to wait for everything do download on demand. It would probably be more desirable for you to keep a network-shared distfiles than mirror the servers. Then there's the age-old 'static hosts file' problem - just like the giant host file describing everyone took longer to transfer than to become outdated back in the glorious days of UNIX, it will also probably take longer to dowload all distfiles ever than it will for those distfiles to become outdated. In conclusion, I think this is a rather silly idea. -- You are right I think. If nothing else the handbook says that Gentoo etiquite says not to rsync your portage tree more than once a day. For the average distro, once a week or even once a month is more than sufficient to keep up with the packages in the main branch. I think that I will probably be better off doing a stage three install, then doing an 'emerge -euD world' or similar before moving on from there. After that, I can just make sure to watch the FAQ's and walkthroughs when I install Xorg to make sure that I do it right. ^_^ Hopefully by the time I build the machine, either A) I can get a decent nVidia card, or B) the ATI drivers will be released. ^_^ I preffer nVidia, but if the ATI drivers go open source (crossing my fingers but not holding my breath), then that will be a good option as well. ^_^ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 02:13:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If nothing else the handbook says that Gentoo etiquite says not to rsync your portage tree more than once a day. For the average distro, once a week or even once a month is more than sufficient to keep up with the packages in the main branch. If you wait more than 30 days between syncs you risk missing messages in package.mask. Packages must be in package.mask for 30 days before being removed from the tree... I think that I will probably be better off doing a stage three install, then doing an 'emerge -euD world' or similar before moving on from there. Err.. what was the purpose of that `emerge -e world` ? (-u and -D does absolutely nothing when used with -e). -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that I will probably be better off doing a stage three install, then doing an 'emerge -euD world' or similar before moving on from there. After that, I can just make sure to watch the FAQ's and walkthroughs when I install Xorg to make sure that I do it right. ^_^ why? there is no need to do that. emerge -u --newuse world would be much more 'interessting'. Btw, an deep world update ruined most of my weekend... don't do --deep if you don't have to. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that I will probably be better off doing a stage three install, then doing an 'emerge -euD world' or similar before moving on from there. After that, I can just make sure to watch the FAQ's and walkthroughs when I install Xorg to make sure that I do it right. ^_^ why? there is no need to do that. emerge -u --newuse world would be much more 'interessting'. Btw, an deep world update ruined most of my weekend... don't do --deep if you don't have to. Funny, I sync every few days or so and always do a emerge -uvD world. I have less problems with that than just doing a -u world. Maybe it is when you do things consistantly that keeps things going well. ;-) Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Touchscreens under linux
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 22:29 +0200, Timo Boettcher wrote: If I understand correctly, the touchscreen is (if used correctly) just another way to control the mouse pointer. Is that right? yes. when you touch, the mouse moves to, and clicks at that location. You usually have an option to use right clicks. Depending on the driver, dragging and other more complicated mouse features may be a bit more tricky. Similar to using a touchpad. Some newer tablet PC's (ie. Toshiba, not sure about others) actually have a special pen which moves the mouse without touching the screen - you just hover over the screen and the mouse moves, then touch to get a click. Do I have to use X to use the touchscreen, or can I use it with gpm or SDL? nope, AFAIR it will work like any mouse. There's not much you can do without X though is there? Unless you have a keyboard, and then why not have a mouse as well? HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au People that can't find something to live for always seem to find something to die for. The problem is, they usually want the rest of us to die for it too. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007, Dale wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that I will probably be better off doing a stage three install, then doing an 'emerge -euD world' or similar before moving on from there. After that, I can just make sure to watch the FAQ's and walkthroughs when I install Xorg to make sure that I do it right. ^_^ why? there is no need to do that. emerge -u --newuse world would be much more 'interessting'. Btw, an deep world update ruined most of my weekend... don't do --deep if you don't have to. Funny, I sync every few days or so and always do a emerge -uvD world. I have less problems with that than just doing a -u world. Maybe it is when you do things consistantly that keeps things going well and are you doing revdep-rebuilt afterwards? Last time gwenviev and kipi stuff broke, krita broke and some other stuff. Krita did not emerge because of some changed symbols, so I had to reemerge koffice-libs - something revdep-rebuild did not catch. It catches changed versions, but if a lib is recompiled because of an -r update and there are symbol problems, revdep will not see them... I had to rebuild kdepim and a lot of other stuff, just because of that -D update. It sucks to have to revdep-rebuild a douzend packages. It suckes even more when half of them fail because of some symbols and you have to reemerge three or four additional libs, so you can't just let it run unattended... In my years of gentoo, -D always caused problems and was almost never worth the trouble. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start X after a few months of updates
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:03:23PM -0500, deface wrote: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers#Module_Requirement_Mismatch On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 22:52 -0400, John J. Foster wrote: Hi, My system had been happily chugging along with X and KDE running for a few months nonstop. Every Saturday I'd run an update world. But, I never restarted X and obviously never rebooted. Yesterday we had a 3 hour power outage that my UPS couldn't keep up with, and when I finally got power back, X won't start. I _think_ this is the relevant portion of /var/log/Xorg.0.log. (II) Module fglrx: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc. compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.28.8 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0 [R200Setup] X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.2.0.0, required X.org 7.1.0.0 (II) UnloadModule: fglrx (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so (EE) Failed to load module fglrx (module requirement mismatch, 0) Can anyone help me, as I have know idea what to do? Thanks, festus deface - thanks, but I'd already read that section after finding it via scroogle. That particular advice didn't work for me. However, as long as I had that page open, I saw a bit about making the following change in xorg.conf. from --- Section Device Identifier ATI Graphics Adapter 0 Driver fglrx BusID PCI:3:0:0 EndSection to --- Section Device Identifier ATI Graphics Adapter 0 Driver radeon BusID PCI:3:0:0 EndSection ...and this worked. So thanks for getting me to reread that page!!! festus -- It is not unusual for those at the wrong end of the club to have a clearer picture of reality than those who wield it. Noam Chomsky pgp58Y2qVSgs6.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
-Original Message- From: Hemmann, Volker Armin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:58 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question On Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007, Dale wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that I will probably be better off doing a stage three install, then doing an 'emerge -euD world' or similar before moving on from there. After that, I can just make sure to watch the FAQ's and walkthroughs when I install Xorg to make sure that I do it right. ^_^ why? there is no need to do that. emerge -u --newuse world would be much more 'interessting'. Btw, an deep world update ruined most of my weekend... don't do --deep if you don't have to. Funny, I sync every few days or so and always do a emerge -uvD world. I have less problems with that than just doing a -u world. Maybe it is when you do things consistantly that keeps things going well and are you doing revdep-rebuilt afterwards? Last time gwenviev and kipi stuff broke, krita broke and some other stuff. Krita did not emerge because of some changed symbols, so I had to reemerge koffice-libs - something revdep-rebuild did not catch. It catches changed versions, but if a lib is recompiled because of an -r update and there are symbol problems, revdep will not see them... I had to rebuild kdepim and a lot of other stuff, just because of that -D update. It sucks to have to revdep-rebuild a douzend packages. It suckes even more when half of them fail because of some symbols and you have to reemerge three or four additional libs, so you can't just let it run unattended... In my years of gentoo, -D always caused problems and was almost never worth the trouble. -- I am glad I am asking questions now, and not after doing something dumb. :P I could SOOO mess things up on a new box. ^_^ ;-) I think the keyword of the day will be planning! ^_^ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Dale wrote: Funny, I sync every few days or so and always do a emerge -uvD world. I have less problems with that than just doing a -u world. Maybe it is when you do things consistantly that keeps things going well and are you doing revdep-rebuilt afterwards? I have ran it a few times but it never wants to rebuild anything but gcc, which has been a bug for over a year I think. I did unmask java once and run revdep-rebuild and it wanted to rebuild OOo. That is all I can remember having trouble with. Last time gwenviev and kipi stuff broke, krita broke and some other stuff. Krita did not emerge because of some changed symbols, so I had to reemerge koffice-libs - something revdep-rebuild did not catch. It catches changed versions, but if a lib is recompiled because of an -r update and there are symbol problems, revdep will not see them... I had to rebuild kdepim and a lot of other stuff, just because of that -D update. It sucks to have to revdep-rebuild a douzend packages. It suckes even more when half of them fail because of some symbols and you have to reemerge three or four additional libs, so you can't just let it run unattended... In my years of gentoo, -D always caused problems and was almost never worth the trouble. I use KDE and have a lot of packages installed and I seem to be having better luck myself. I did used to just run -u world but that was when I ran into trouble. I guess we have something different on our system. Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part.
