Re: [gentoo-user] Updating menu in KDE

2007-07-07 Thread Billy Wayne McCann

Philip Webb wrote:

070706 Mick wrote:
  

I uninstalled WINE and the KDE menu still shows it in its full glory.
I even removed the .wine directory, but no change.
Running the menu update tool does not change things either.



My impression is that KDE removes entries if they're in the expected place,
but leaves everything else alone.  Just use the menu editor to fix it.

  
This happens in GNOME as well.  JFYI. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating menu in KDE

2007-07-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 07 July 2007 03:30, Philip Webb wrote:
 070706 Mick wrote:
  I uninstalled WINE and the KDE menu still shows it in its full glory.
  I even removed the .wine directory, but no change.
  Running the menu update tool does not change things either.

 My impression is that KDE removes entries if they're in the expected place,
 but leaves everything else alone.  Just use the menu editor to fix it.

Sure, but reinstalling WINE and .exe applications thereafter does not add wine 
to the KDE menu and the applications back to the wine submenu.  I have to do 
that manually and invariably I do not know where the particular application 
icons are.  Clearly something is broken because all of this was automatically 
working in the past.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating menu in KDE

2007-07-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 07 July 2007 09:18, Billy Wayne McCann wrote:
 Philip Webb wrote:
  070706 Mick wrote:
  I uninstalled WINE and the KDE menu still shows it in its full glory.
  I even removed the .wine directory, but no change.
  Running the menu update tool does not change things either.
 
  My impression is that KDE removes entries if they're in the expected
  place, but leaves everything else alone.  Just use the menu editor to fix
  it.

 This happens in GNOME as well.  JFYI.

Alrighty then!  It must be a wine bug.  I opened #184480 lets see what 
happens.

Thanks for your help.
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[gentoo-user] live cd, ip fail

2007-07-07 Thread Thufir
on the live cd, I just want to get the internet connection working.  The 
fedora live cd, for instance, configured the networking fine.

here's my connection at the moment:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /etc/fedora-release 
Fedora release 7 (Moonshine)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0D:88:37:FA:22  
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
  Interrupt:21 Base address:0x2000 

eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:16:EC:23:AF:88  
  inet addr:192.168.2.110  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::216:ecff:fe23:af88/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:84191 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:57353 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:118016366 (112.5 MiB)  TX bytes:4263040 (4.0 MiB)
  Interrupt:22 Base address:0xb000 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:3076 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:3076 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:14029163 (13.3 MiB)  TX bytes:14029163 (13.3 MiB)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# date
Sat Jul  7 02:39:21 PDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 



thanks,

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[gentoo-user] Re: live cd, ip fail

2007-07-07 Thread Thufir
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:42:30 +, Thufir wrote:

 on the live cd, I just want to get the internet connection working.  The
 fedora live cd, for instance, configured the networking fine.

some additional information:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /etc/fedora-release 
Fedora release 7 (Moonshine)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661FX/M661FX/M661MX 
Host (rev 11)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS AGP Port 
(virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge)
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS964 [MuTIOL Media 
IO] (rev 36)
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev 
01)
00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 
AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 
Controller
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI 
Fast Ethernet (rev 91)
00:05.0 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus 
controller 180 SATA/PATA  [SiS] (rev 01)
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 
661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# date
Sat Jul  7 03:00:19 PDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 



thanks,

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[gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

2007-07-07 Thread Thufir
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:47:24 -0700, kashani wrote:

   I say bring on the easiness. Make a big fat button after the 
liveCD
 loads that says Just install it for me in a nice default kinda way so I
 can start playing with this whole USE flag thing I've heard so much
 about and be done with it.

The irony here is that gentoo has had the live cd for a long time which 
makes installing so much easier, but just won't go that extra step 
because...it's supposed to be hard?  If it's supposed to be hard, why 
have the live cd?  seems contrary.


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[gentoo-user] Re: live cd, ip fail

2007-07-07 Thread Thufir
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:02:13 +, Thufir wrote:

 some additional information:

additional additional:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /etc/fedora-release 
Fedora release 7 (Moonshine)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
autofs424645  2 
hidp   26433  2 
rfcomm 43481  0 
l2cap  30145  10 hidp,rfcomm
bluetooth  57253  5 hidp,rfcomm,l2cap
sunrpc159133  1 
nf_conntrack_netbios_ns 7105  0 
nf_conntrack_ipv4  15049  2 
xt_state6593  2 
nf_conntrack   61001  3 
nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,nf_conntrack_ipv4,xt_state
nfnetlink  10841  2 nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_conntrack
ipt_REJECT  8641  2 
iptable_filter  6977  1 
ip_tables  16389  1 iptable_filter
xt_tcpudp   7233  10 
ip6t_REJECT 9537  2 
ip6table_filter 6849  1 
ip6_tables 17541  1 ip6table_filter
x_tables   18757  6 
xt_state,ipt_REJECT,ip_tables,xt_tcpudp,ip6t_REJECT,ip6_tables
fuse   45909  0 
dm_multipath   21705  0 
video  21065  0 
sbs19173  0 
i2c_ec  9281  1 sbs
i2c_core   24641  1 i2c_ec
button 12113  0 
dock   13669  0 
battery14149  0 
ac  9413  0 
ipv6  276673  27 ip6t_REJECT
lp 15977  0 
loop   19785  0 
serio_raw  10821  0 
snd_intel8x0   35933  1 
snd_ac97_codec 96357  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus6465  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_dummy   7877  0 
parport_pc 29797  1 
parport38025  2 lp,parport_pc
snd_seq_oss33345  0 
snd_seq_midi_event 11073  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq50353  5 
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
sis900 26305  0 
snd_seq_device 11853  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss43489  0 
snd_mixer_oss  19393  2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm74565  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer  24773  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd53189  9 
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore  11553  2 snd
snd_page_alloc 13769  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
8139too29249  0 
pcspkr  7105  0 
mii 9409  2 sis900,8139too
sata_sis   13509  0 
sr_mod 20197  0 
cdrom  37217  1 sr_mod
floppy 58565  0 
sg 37213  0 
dm_snapshot20709  0 
dm_zero 6209  0 
dm_mirror  24277  0 
dm_mod 57229  12 
dm_multipath,dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror
pata_sis   17741  5 sata_sis
ata_generic12101  0 
libata115417  3 sata_sis,pata_sis,ata_generic
sd_mod 23873  6 
scsi_mod  137549  4 sr_mod,sg,libata,sd_mod
ext3  125385  3 
jbd59881  1 ext3
mbcache12357  1 ext3
ehci_hcd   35405  0 
ohci_hcd   23749  0 
uhci_hcd   26833  0 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# dmesg | grep -i net
NET: Registered protocol family 16
NetLabel: Initializing
NetLabel:  domain hash size = 128
NetLabel:  protocols = UNLABELED CIPSOv4
NetLabel:  unlabeled traffic allowed by default
NET: Registered protocol family 2
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
SELinux:  Registering netfilter hooks
Initializing XFRM netlink socket
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28
eth1: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xb000, IRQ 22, 00:16:ec:23:af:88.
NET: Registered protocol family 10
IA-32 Microcode Update Driver: v1.14a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ip6_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
Netfilter messages via NETLINK v0.30.
NET: Registered protocol family 31
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# date
Sat Jul  7 03:24:34 PDT 2007
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I'm not sure what to make of the above, because, obviously, I'm on the 
internet at the moment, but there's a message about eth0 not having a 
link, when it's up and running on eth0...


thanks,

Thufir

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

2007-07-07 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 7. Juli 2007, Thufir wrote:
 On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:47:24 -0700, kashani wrote:
  I say bring on the easiness. Make a big fat button after the

 liveCD

  loads that says Just install it for me in a nice default kinda way so I
  can start playing with this whole USE flag thing I've heard so much
  about and be done with it.

 The irony here is that gentoo has had the live cd for a long time which
 makes installing so much easier, but just won't go that extra step
 because...it's supposed to be hard?  If it's supposed to be hard, why
 have the live cd?  seems contrary.


well, hard filters out the 'I am stupid and I don't read documentation' crowd, 
which is a good thing. I would not call the installation via graphical 
installer 'hard', I would call it 'buggy beyond usefullness'.

Apart from that, IMHO a livecd is completly braindead. When compiling you need 
as much free ram as you can get. Every mb counts. And a livecd takes away A 
LOT of ram. Even more stupid - a livecd with gnome (which is the DE with the 
biggest ram usage).

So we have a livecd, which is stupid in itself, for installing and a buggy 
installer - only because to prevent some idiots from reading the 
documentation.

Is that really smart?
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Re: [gentoo-user] live cd, ip fail

2007-07-07 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
it would have been helpfull if you have told us the ifconfig output of the 
livecd.

btw. in the documentation is a nice part about configuring networking - and if 
you are lucky all you have to do is /sbin/dhcpcd
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating menu in KDE

2007-07-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 07 July 2007 09:51, Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 07 July 2007 09:18, Billy Wayne McCann wrote:
  Philip Webb wrote:
   070706 Mick wrote:
   I uninstalled WINE and the KDE menu still shows it in its full glory.
   I even removed the .wine directory, but no change.
   Running the menu update tool does not change things either.
  
   My impression is that KDE removes entries if they're in the expected
   place, but leaves everything else alone.  Just use the menu editor to
   fix it.
 
  This happens in GNOME as well.  JFYI.

 Alrighty then!  It must be a wine bug.  I opened #184480 lets see what
 happens.

It seems that this is all related to actions taken as a result of bug #117785:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117785

I am not sure though if this means that to have the menu entries and similar 
behaviour we need to be running an unsafe system.  Is there a solution to 
this at all?
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[gentoo-user] Re: live cd, ip fail

2007-07-07 Thread Thufir
Similar data from the live cd:


livecd ~ # 
livecd ~ # whoami
root
livecd ~ # 
livecd ~ # cat /etc/gentoo-release 
Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
livecd ~ # 
livecd ~ # ping 192.168.2.1
connect: Network is unreachable
livecd ~ # 
livecd ~ # /sbin/dhcpcd
Error, timed out waiting for a valid DHCP server response
livecd ~ # 
livecd ~ # ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0D:88:37:FA:22  
  UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
  Interrupt:21 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

livecd ~ # 
livecd ~ # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661FX/M661FX/M661MX 
Host (rev 11)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS AGP Port 
(virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge)
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS964 [MuTIOL Media 
IO] (rev 36)
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev 
01)
00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 
AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 
Controller
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI 
Fast Ethernet (rev 91)
00:05.0 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus 
controller 180 SATA/PATA  [SiS] (rev 01)
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 
661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
livecd ~ # 
livecd ~ # 
livecd ~ # lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
bridge 40604  0 
parport_pc 31844  0 
parport26440  1 parport_pc
pcspkr  5888  0 
snd_pcm_oss33312  0 
snd_mixer_oss  16000  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_oss26112  0 
snd_seq_midi_event  7552  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq35408  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device  8460  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_intel8x0   26780  1 
snd_ac97_codec 71712  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_bus5376  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm47364  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer  18180  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd33764  11 
snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
snd_page_alloc 10248  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
sis900 20992  0 
8139too22912  0 
mii 7168  2 sis900,8139too
sis_agp 9604  1 
agpgart21972  1 sis_agp
rtc12852  0 
tg391652  0 
e1000  94656  0 
nfs95164  0 
lockd  48392  1 nfs
sunrpc110012  2 nfs,lockd
jfs   147948  0 
dm_mirror  19152  0 
dm_mod 40344  1 dm_mirror
pdc_adma   10500  0 
sata_mv17672  0 
ata_piix   14600  0 
ahci   17796  0 
sata_qstor 10756  0 
sata_vsc9988  0 
sata_uli9220  0 
sata_sis9732  0 
sata_sx4   14084  0 
sata_nv11268  0 
sata_via   11268  0 
sata_svw9348  0 
sata_sil24 14852  0 
sata_sil   11784  0 
sata_promise   12292  0 
libata 67220  15 
pdc_adma,sata_mv,ata_piix,ahci,sata_qstor,sata_vsc,sata_uli,sata_sis,sata_sx4,sata_nv,sata_via,sata_svw,sata_sil24,sata_sil,sata_promise
sbp2   21380  0 
ohci1394   30896  0 
ieee1394   59576  2 sbp2,ohci1394
sl811_hcd  13056  0 
usbhid 35936  0 
ohci_hcd   18948  0 
uhci_hcd   21128  0 
usb_storage62400  0 
ehci_hcd   25736  0 
usbcore88452  7 
sl811_hcd,usbhid,ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd,usb_storage,ehci_hcd
livecd ~ # 
livecd ~ # dmesg | grep -i net
NET: Registered protocol family 16
NET: Registered protocol family 2
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: live cd, ip fail

2007-07-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 07 July 2007 11:26, Thufir wrote:

[snip . . .]
 I'm not sure what to make of the above, because, obviously, I'm on the
 internet at the moment, but there's a message about eth0 not having a
 link, when it's up and running on eth0...

Since you have not shown us how the LiveCD detects your cards:

Assuming that you have modprobe -v 8139too and it loads fine (or you can see 
it under lsmod | grep 8139too as being loaded) then '/sbin/dhcpcd eth0 up' 
should get you an IP address.  Instead of eth0 you may need to run eth1 
depending which iface is mapped by udev to your RTL8139 ethernet card.

For the link error you get, I think you need to have a CAT5 wire connecting 
your ethernet card to your router.

If you want to configure your wireless connection instead (more complicated) 
then you need to modprobe -v sis900 and then follow the handbook.
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Re: [gentoo-user] about grub

2007-07-07 Thread sain yan

Because you didn`t mount /boot?


Yes! I find the erro in /etc/fstab

/dev/sda7/boot   ext3*noauto,*notime,noexec 0 0



THANKS EVERYBODY !!




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Re: [gentoo-user] OOo-2.2.1 fails to emerge

2007-07-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 07 July 2007 17:57, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 17:14:36 +0100, Mick wrote:
  error:
  /var/tmp/portage/app-office/openoffice-2.2.1/work/ooo/build/OOF680_m18/so
 lver/680/unxlngi6.pro/inc/svtools/svtools.hrc: Permission denied

 Have you run out of space in $PORTAGE_TMPDIR?

 df $(portageq envvar PORTAGE_TMPDIR)

No, that's the first thing I thought too.  There was 23% still available in 
the /var/tmp partition.
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.1.3_rc6 doesn't compile

2007-07-07 Thread Vladimir Rusinov

On 7/7/07, Nicolai Beuermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 You error looks like broken linux-headers. Try to update them.
I did 'emerge sys-kernel/linux-headers'. It says it would be advised that
you
re-merge your system libc.
Portage now builds - should I rebuild the libc nevertheless?



If this was an upgrade, there are some good reasons to do so.
You cat search google for more detalis.

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