Re: [gentoo-user] Creating a restricted user
Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2007 schrieb Grant: I don't want the user to be able to do much of anything but browse the web, use skype, and maybe look at photos on a CD or something. Maybe what you want can be achieved by running KDE in kiosk mode. However, never did this myself, so you should search kde.org or Google for the details. I've noticed when adding this kind of a user in the past they are able to look at files all around the system that I'd prefer they can't. Why? System directories look nearly the same on any Linux system, so it doesn't really make sense to restrict read access to them. For other, private directories you could take away permissions for others (i.e. chmod 750 mydir) and in addition _don't_ put that user in the users group, or use ACLs for more fine grained access control (see man getfacl, man setfacl). HTH... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating a restricted user
Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2007 schrieb Nangus Garba: if you want to make it so that a user can not look at a directory such as /var you can use a command such as: chmod o-x /var No, don't do this. Don't mess with permissions of system directories. Better use ACLs. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] gnome-session no longer starts after updating world
Hi. After upgrading my system using emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y world I am no longer able to use x-windows. I saw a message for one package connection refused by server, but I saw that gnome-session had ended and that no other gnome apps had hstarted. There is nothing in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, so I have no idea how to trouble shoot this at all. I am using nvidia drivers 100.14.19 and gentoo sources of 2.6.21-r4. Any assistance would be appreciated. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Picasa 2.7 Beta
Hello. Google just (?) released a new version of Picasa - 2.7 beta. Did somebody of you manage to get this to run on Gentoo Linux? I downloaded the RPM from http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html, http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/testing/i386/picasa-2.7.3736-7.i386.rpm, and unpacked it by doing: cd / rpm2cpio /tmp/picasa-2.7.3736-7.i386.rpm | cpio -id Now I tried to run picasa by executing: /opt/picasa/bin/picasa This seems to work - somewhat... With that, I mean that Picasa starts, but it just hangs there, see http://picasaweb.google.ch/Fam.Skwar/Screenshots/photo#5143020740590645730. I cannot click on any of the buttons and the splash screen also doesn't go away. Anyone with more luck? Cheers, Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Picasa 2.7 Beta
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:49:03 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: cd / rpm2cpio /tmp/picasa-2.7.3736-7.i386.rpm | cpio -id http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200568 reports success using rpm2targz -- Neil Bothwick Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DTV on Laptop
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:38:41 + (UTC), James wrote: There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck). I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). -- Neil Bothwick Orcs aren't all that bad... if you have plenty of ketchup. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Picasa 2.7 Beta
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:49:03 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: cd / rpm2cpio /tmp/picasa-2.7.3736-7.i386.rpm | cpio -id http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200568 reports success using rpm2targz And why should that make any difference? I mean, after all, I am able to extract the package. It's just, that I cannot run it. Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Picasa 2.7 Beta
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:49:03 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: cd / rpm2cpio /tmp/picasa-2.7.3736-7.i386.rpm | cpio -id http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200568 reports success using rpm2targz BTW: It also now reports, that rpm2targz doesn't work *G* -- Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: DTV on Laptop
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck). I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). Hello Neil, Check this out (hdtv): http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Analog_Digital+PVR/PCTV+HD+Pro+Stick.htm It sure be nice to find a similar device for (gentoo) linux James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picasa 2.7 Beta
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:01:55 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200568 reports success using rpm2targz And why should that make any difference? I mean, after all, I am able to extract the package. It's just, that I cannot run it. I'm not saying that the extraction method is important, but that someone has got it to run and detailed the steps in the bug report. -- Neil Bothwick We are Drunk of Borg. Resilience is floor tile. Wan'be sim'lated? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DTV on Laptop
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:49:46 + (UTC), James wrote: Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck). I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). Hello Neil, Check this out (hdtv): http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Analog_Digital+PVR/PCTV+HD+Pro+Stick.htm It sure be nice to find a similar device for (gentoo) linux According to http://mcentral.de/wiki/index.php/Em2880#Devices it appears this device is supported by a Linux driver. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 00B: Inadequate disk space - Free at least 50MB signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Found it: Re: DTV on Laptop
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well http://lunapark6.com/usb-hdtv-tuner-stick-for-windows-linux-hauppauge-wintv-hvr-950.html thx, James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Picasa 2.7 Beta
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:01:55 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200568 reports success using rpm2targz And why should that make any difference? I mean, after all, I am able to extract the package. It's just, that I cannot run it. I'm not saying that the extraction method is important, but that someone has got it to run and detailed the steps in the bug report. Well, let's not fight, but his steps are at least as detailed as what I've written here :) Granted, he wrote that he also created desktop files - that's something, I haven't done. But I think, that's at as important as the way the stuff was extracted, don't you think? :) Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] disk problem after kernel update
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:51:15 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 13:59 +0100, pat wrote: Hello, I've try to update kernel from 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 to 2.6.23-gentoo-r3. I've copied config, run make oldconfig and then make. At boot time the new kernel maps disks as hdax, but previous kernel mapped disks as sdax. So, if I want to use new kernel I have to change fstab (that's not so bad), but I have to setup DMA for the disk, and that's not possible (an error occur) Did I something wrong? How to solve it? The GRUB boot options: *** new one title GNU/Linux 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 root (hd0,2) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.23-gentoo-r3 real_root=/dev/hda5 atapi_enabled=1 hdc=noprobe nmi_watchdog=0 root=/dev/hda5 *** old one title GNU/Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 root (hd0,2) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.20-gentoo-r8 real_root=/dev/sda5 atapi_enabled=1 hdc=noprobe nmi_watchdog=0 Thanks a lot. Pat Remove Device Drivers - ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support - generic/default IDE chipset support and Device Drivers - Serial ATA (prod) and Parallel ATA (experimental) drivers - Generic ATA support from your Kernel config. You might be using generic drivers instead of your specific drivers. Also double check all kernel options concerning Disk controllers. Thanks a lot, it helped. Pat -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Picasa 2.7 Beta
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:37:47 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: I'm not saying that the extraction method is important, but that someone has got it to run and detailed the steps in the bug report. Well, let's not fight, but his steps are at least as detailed as what I've written here :) Granted, he wrote that he also created desktop files - that's something, I haven't done. But I think, that's at as important as the way the stuff was extracted, don't you think? :) I'm not fighting, merely pointing out reports from two people that they got it to work :( -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #56: Operator fell asleep while waiting. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] gnome-session no longer starts after updating world
John, I remember having the same problem before and I believe that deleting the appropriate .gnome and .gnome2 directories would fix the problem. I'm not sure why this happens or why this solution worked for me but it did. You might lose some settings. Do not worry because the .gnome and .gnome2 directories will be recreated as soon as you try to run gnome. Regards, Richard -Original Message- From: John covici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 3:43 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] gnome-session no longer starts after updating world Hi. After upgrading my system using emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y world I am no longer able to use x-windows. I saw a message for one package connection refused by server, but I saw that gnome-session had ended and that no other gnome apps had hstarted. There is nothing in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, so I have no idea how to trouble shoot this at all. I am using nvidia drivers 100.14.19 and gentoo sources of 2.6.21-r4. Any assistance would be appreciated. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gnome-session no longer starts after updating world
on Wednesday 12/12/2007 Marzan, Richard non Unisys([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote John, I remember having the same problem before and I believe that deleting the appropriate .gnome and .gnome2 directories would fix the problem. I'm not sure why this happens or why this solution worked for me but it did. You might lose some settings. Do not worry because the .gnome and .gnome2 directories will be recreated as soon as you try to run gnome. Regards, Richard Unfortunately, no joy, I started xinit and I have in my /root directory a .xinitrc which says exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session but all I got was a message on the text console which said waiting for the server to shut down, so we have a server problem as well, apparently. -Original Message- From: John covici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 3:43 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] gnome-session no longer starts after updating world Hi. After upgrading my system using emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y world I am no longer able to use x-windows. I saw a message for one package connection refused by server, but I saw that gnome-session had ended and that no other gnome apps had hstarted. There is nothing in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, so I have no idea how to trouble shoot this at all. I am using nvidia drivers 100.14.19 and gentoo sources of 2.6.21-r4. Any assistance would be appreciated. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gnome-session no longer starts after updating world
-Original Message- From: John covici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:59 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] gnome-session no longer starts after updating world on Wednesday 12/12/2007 Marzan, Richard non Unisys([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote John, I remember having the same problem before and I believe that deleting the appropriate .gnome and .gnome2 directories would fix the problem. I'm not sure why this happens or why this solution worked for me but it did. You might lose some settings. Do not worry because the .gnome and .gnome2 directories will be recreated as soon as you try to run gnome. Regards, Richard Unfortunately, no joy, I started xinit and I have in my /root directory a .xinitrc which says exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session but all I got was a message on the text console which said waiting for the server to shut down, so we have a server problem as well, apparently. -Original Message- From: John covici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 3:43 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] gnome-session no longer starts after updating world Hi. After upgrading my system using emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y world I am no longer able to use x-windows. I saw a message for one package connection refused by server, but I saw that gnome-session had ended and that no other gnome apps had hstarted. There is nothing in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, so I have no idea how to trouble shoot this at all. I am using nvidia drivers 100.14.19 and gentoo sources of 2.6.21-r4. Any assistance would be appreciated. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list John, Are you running X as root. I don't think that's a good idea. Try running it as a normal user. And try using exec gnome-session in your .xinitrc files. See if that works for you. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DTV on Laptop
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:38:41 + (UTC), James wrote: There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck). I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). What is the quality of the picture with the Freecom? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: DTV on Laptop
On 2007-12-12, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck). I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). What is the quality of the picture with the Freecom? That question doesn't really make any sense. It's like asking what the quality of the sound is with an Ethernet card. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! It's OKAY -- I'm an at INTELLECTUAL, too. visi.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DTV on Laptop
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:57:55 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). What is the quality of the picture with the Freecom? Fine. With DVB it is only spooling the MPEG stream to disk or the player, so one card seems much the same as another. You do need a reasonable antenna tough, although the Freecom worked better with a poorer setup than my Hauppage Nova 500 card, the supplied desktop antenna won't cut it unless you live next door to the transmitter. -- Neil Bothwick The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten per cent of its capacity ... the rest is overhead for the operating system. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] gnome-session no longer starts after updating world
on Wednesday 12/12/2007 Marzan, Richard non Unisys([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote -Original Message- From: John covici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:59 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] gnome-session no longer starts after updating world on Wednesday 12/12/2007 Marzan, Richard non Unisys([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote John, I remember having the same problem before and I believe that deleting the appropriate .gnome and .gnome2 directories would fix the problem. I'm not sure why this happens or why this solution worked for me but it did. You might lose some settings. Do not worry because the .gnome and .gnome2 directories will be recreated as soon as you try to run gnome. Regards, Richard Unfortunately, no joy, I started xinit and I have in my /root directory a .xinitrc which says exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session but all I got was a message on the text console which said waiting for the server to shut down, so we have a server problem as well, apparently. -Original Message- From: John covici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 3:43 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] gnome-session no longer starts after updating world Hi. After upgrading my system using emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y world I am no longer able to use x-windows. I saw a message for one package connection refused by server, but I saw that gnome-session had ended and that no other gnome apps had hstarted. There is nothing in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, so I have no idea how to trouble shoot this at all. I am using nvidia drivers 100.14.19 and gentoo sources of 2.6.21-r4. Any assistance would be appreciated. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list John, Are you running X as root. I don't think that's a good idea. Try running it as a normal user. And try using exec gnome-session in your .xinitrc files. See if that works for you. Well, I can't run it as a normal user, I get the following in my .xsession-errors file /etc/X11/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... stty: standard input: Inappropriate ioctl for device /etc/X11/gdm/Xsession: Setup done, will execute: /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- show-all-if-ambiguout show-all-if-ambiguout: No such file or directory I used to be able to run as root when I was using 2.18, however I can't do this anymore. I have no idea what is happening with this. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Picasa 2.7 Beta
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 10:49 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: This seems to work - somewhat... With that, I mean that Picasa starts, but it just hangs there, see http://picasaweb.google.ch/Fam.Skwar/Screenshots/photo#5143020740590645730. I cannot click on any of the buttons and the splash screen also doesn't go away. Anyone with more luck? no, I haven't tried, but your problem report sounds similar to what happens when I try to run google earth if I don't have a good GL driver installed. Various fglrx drivers fail google earth, (and are slow generally) including the latest one. But some work fine. If I use the X nv driver I can't run it either. Perhaps picasa uses some similar accel features? just a stab in the dark :) I might try it though, now that you mention it's here. HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au I WILL NOT INSTIGATE REVOLUTION Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 7G06 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DTV on Laptop
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 21:25 +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2007-12-12, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck). I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). What is the quality of the picture with the Freecom? That question doesn't really make any sense. It's like asking what the quality of the sound is with an Ethernet card. what you really want to know is how fast does it tune, does it do hardware mpeg encoding, does the linux driver support signal strength etc. The quality of the UI is a question for windows users, as you usually use what they provide, but with linux you use what you want :) cya, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au I don't deserve this award, but I have arthritis and I don't deserve that either. -- Jack Benny -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: DTV on Laptop
On 2007-12-12, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck). I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). What is the quality of the picture with the Freecom? That question doesn't really make any sense. It's like asking what the quality of the sound is with an Ethernet card. what you really want to know is how fast does it tune, does it do hardware mpeg encoding, does the linux driver support signal strength etc. The quality of the UI is a question for windows users, as you usually use what they provide, but with linux you use what you want :) Actually I guess the picture quality would be a valid question for an NTSC tuner. I had missed the fact that the OP was looking for something that did both NTSC and ATSC (for which the picture quality question doesn't really apply). For ATSC picture quality is going to be the same for all tuners. The question is how well the tuner and demodulator can handle multipath and low signal strenth. With ATSC you've pretty much either got a picture or you don't. All USB NTSC tuners are going to to hardware video encoding. USB just doesn't have enough bandwidth to send uncompressed raw video (that would require real, sustained usable throughput in excess of 200Mb/s). -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! ... I have read the at INSTRUCTIONS ... visi.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: recommendation for C2D motherboard
Hello list, I'm sorry for this very off-topic post but my MSI-P965 Platinum have wreck it's first PCI-e slot and so did my NVidia 7900GS (I don't know which one died first but I'm pretty sure both are dead) Although the motherboard is SLI and I could just buy a new GFX card, the second slot -which is working BTW- is only 4X, and its position would make impossible to use one of the two available PCI slots (there I've attached a SB Live 5.1 and a TV tunner.) So the question is: which good motherboard would you recommend for an Intel Core2 Duo E6600? (Less than a year, and these very expensive -here in Argentina- pieces are now junk. D*mn!) Many many many thanks in advance to everyone, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] DMZ on an vmware gentoo guest running on winXP host
Setup: Home Lan with principle desktop machine running Gentoo. Three other machines running WinXP that are a trio of video and sound editing machines. And finally my wifes WinXP machine in antoher room. All connected by Gigabit lan thru a netgear FVP318 router/firewall. I want to begin scanning thru the traffic that bounces off my router/firewall. The router logs themselves are in a bad cumbersom format. And if I use an available option to output them to a lan System logger the information is greatly truncated and nearly useless. Router logs can be emailed but again they are cumbersom and clunky. That how I currently look through them. So cutting to the chase, I don't want to even mess around with those methods. Been there done that... didn't like it. The router has an option to route traffic to a DMZ machine. In the past when I got this same urge 2 or so years ago I setup an Openbsd OS on an older PC. Buttoned it down what little I knew to do and had lots of fun with incoming traffic I mean just studying and being amazed etc. I want to do that again but don't have that old machine anymore and don't want the unfamiliar hassle of relearning whatever I knew about OpenBSD. I don't want the hassle of hardening my main desktop... preferring to keep it pretty loose behind the firewall. Running a lan webserver and the like. I wondered if any of the security buffs here could tell me if a vmware gentoo guest running on one of the winXP boxes could be setup to have an independant tap on the Firewall as DMZ and not be offering every hack whiz out there a shot at my home lan. As I remember you can setup vmware with its own network address, not sharing its hosts address to some degree. But I wondered.., since any traffic is really going thru that WinXP hosts nic one way or another if it would be as safe as a truly independant host with its own ethernet wire to the router. (which is switched). Would I likely be opening my lan up for some christmas shopping by having a gentoo guest on a WinXP host running as a DMZ machine? It would be pretty barebones with a IPTABLE setup for logging and tagging or whatever I get interested in doing with the traffic. No X server or other frills. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list