Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X (i810) won't start with undefined symbol

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 11 April 2008, Grant wrote:
> > When I try to start Xorg, the exa module unloads with "undefined
> > symbol: fbGlyph8" and then i810 unloads with "undefined symbol:
> >  exaDriverFini".  Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
> >
> >  (II) LoadModule: "exa"
> >  (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
> >  dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so: undefined symbol:
> > fbGlyph8 (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
> >  (II) UnloadModule: "exa"
> >  (EE) Failed to load module "exa" (loader failed, 7)
> >  (II) LoadModule: "i810"
> >  (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so
> >  dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so: undefined
> > symbol: exaDriverFini
> >  (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so
> >  (II) UnloadModule: "i810"
> >
> >  - Grant
>
> I'm sorry to bother everybody again but this is really crucial for
> me. Does anyone have any ideas whatsoever?  Do I have a permanently
> Xorgless installation?

Do you still have compile logs from xorg-server and xf86-video-i810?

Anything in there?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix Question

2008-04-10 Thread Stroller
It's kinda difficult to help with this, without knowing what the A- 
Plus server is seeing.
An unsanitised copy of the bounce message would probably show the  
problem.


Does it definitely show the correct email address of a user for which  
A-Plus has a mailbox?


Can you reproduce the problem telnetting to the A-Plus MX server on  
port 25?

http://www.yuki-onna.co.uk/email/smtp.html
http://www.simplescripts.de/smtp-check-port-25-telnet-command.htm

Stroller


On 10 Apr 2008, at 19:44, Jason Messerschmitt wrote:

I guess I'll dip my toes in here and admit that I can't figure this  
out.


Synopsis:  I've setup Postfix to be a mail out only smtp server. I  
just want it for our Joomla based web pages and our helpdesk to be  
able to mail to users from the local server. The problem is this: I  
can mail to any domain (gmail, hotmail, yahoo, etc) without  
problem, but I can't receive mail directly through our A-plus based  
mail (the worst!). What happens is that A-plus' server rejects the  
user as unkown even though I know it is correct. What really gets  
my goat is that after that message is returned to my server it is  
then delivered to the A-plus server and thusly shows up in my  
webmail and email client. Below are my configs.




Re: [gentoo-user] Dell PowerEdge 750 problem

2008-04-10 Thread Stroller


On 10 Apr 2008, at 15:46, Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Thursday 10 April 2008, Amar Cosic wrote:

... whenever I try to boot from HD I got:

Block device /dev/sda3 is not valid root device...
Could not find the root block device in.


You have not compiled all the needed drivers into the kernel. You'll
need drivers for your chipset, the scsi stuff and libata.


And for the filesystem of the root fs.

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[gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS

2008-04-10 Thread Stroller


On 10 Apr 2008, at 16:29, Mario Ignacio Rodríguez Cortés wrote:

...
I have a problem at the moment that i try to execute a command as a  
sudo

user, quikly, I have two machines, the first is my LDAP server and the
second is my client on LDAP ...


Please don't hijack threads like this:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_hijacking
  http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user/msg/ 
8a540add45e7e9b8?


  "It is irritating for people using thread-aware e-mail clients...
  In case you didn't know, it happens when you use "reply" for sending
  a new question instead of composing a "new" message."

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Migrating to a new box 2: Users

2008-04-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 11. April 2008, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> I apologize for sending an email that was near 1MB; as I said this
> morning, I was panicking.  The problem seems to be fixed now.  As for
> the other users, how do I move them?  Do I just copy over /etc/passwd
> and /etc/shadow, or are there more files I need to move?

/etc/group?
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[gentoo-user] Re: X (i810) won't start with undefined symbol

2008-04-10 Thread Grant
> When I try to start Xorg, the exa module unloads with "undefined symbol:
>  fbGlyph8" and then i810 unloads with "undefined symbol:
>  exaDriverFini".  Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
>
>  (II) LoadModule: "exa"
>  (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
>  dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so: undefined symbol: fbGlyph8
>  (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
>  (II) UnloadModule: "exa"
>  (EE) Failed to load module "exa" (loader failed, 7)
>  (II) LoadModule: "i810"
>  (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so
>  dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so: undefined symbol:
>  exaDriverFini
>  (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so
>  (II) UnloadModule: "i810"
>
>  - Grant

I'm sorry to bother everybody again but this is really crucial for me.
 Does anyone have any ideas whatsoever?  Do I have a permanently
Xorgless installation?

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[gentoo-user] OT - Migrating to a new box 2: Users

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Sullivan
I apologize for sending an email that was near 1MB; as I said this
morning, I was panicking.  The problem seems to be fixed now.  As for
the other users, how do I move them?  Do I just copy over /etc/passwd
and /etc/shadow, or are there more files I need to move?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Migrating servers to a new box

2008-04-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:30:49 -0700 (PDT), Michael Sullivan wrote:

> I guess there's not a strict size limit or
> it would be set in the Gentoo mail server... 

That's right. It relies on the consideration of users to think before
sending 1MB mails :(


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Re: [gentoo-user] X (i810) won't start with undefined symbol

2008-04-10 Thread Grant
>  > When I try to start Xorg, the exa module unloads with "undefined
>  > symbol: fbGlyph8" and then i810 unloads with "undefined symbol:
>  > exaDriverFini".  Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
>  >
>  > (II) LoadModule: "exa"
>  > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
>  > dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so: undefined symbol:
>  > fbGlyph8 (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
>  > (II) UnloadModule: "exa"
>  > (EE) Failed to load module "exa" (loader failed, 7)
>  > (II) LoadModule: "i810"
>  > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so
>  > dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so: undefined
>  > symbol: exaDriverFini
>  > (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so
>  > (II) UnloadModule: "i810"
>
>  What does revdep-rebuild say?

Unfortunately: "Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All
done."  Even after an 'rm -rf .revdep*'.

- Grant

>  Uwe
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Migrating servers to a new box

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Sullivan

--- Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> --- Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > This morning my server box died (power supply
> > problem
> > I think).  I've pulled the hard drive and am
> trying
> > to
> > set up a similar environment on one of my other
> > boxes.
> >  I've copied over two user home directories, as
> well
> > as exim.conf and dovecot.conf to their proper
> > places,
> > and restarted the servers.  I think we're getting
> > new
> > mail in, but I'm not sure where it's going. 
> > Attached
> > is the results of grep 'Apr 10' /var/log/mail.log
> . 
> > AFAIK, nothing is being rejected.  While we're on
> > the
> > subject, what files do I need to move/replace in
> > order
> > to make sure that all my users can log onto their
> > accounts on this alternate box; is it just
> > /etc/passwd
> > and /etc/shadow, or is there more?
> > 
> 
> I forgot to add in my previous post that I'm using 
> 
> camille ~ # emerge -pv exim
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in
> order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] mail-mta/exim-4.69  USE="X
> exiscan-acl
> ldap mysql pam perl sasl ssl syslog tcpd -dnsdb
> -domainkeys -dovecot-sasl -exiscan -gnutls -ipv6
> -lmtp
> -mailwrapper -mbox -mbx -nis -postgres -radius -spf
> -sqlite -srs" 0 kB 
> 
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0
> kB
> 
> and my exim.conf file (attached)
> 
> And on closer inspection of the mail.log I saw that
> all the messages are being temporarily rejected
> after
> DATA.  Now if only I knew what that meant...
> 
> 

OK.  I found out that [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
being rewritten to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in
/etc/aliases (the first thing I would've thought of if
I'd been using sendmail).  I've updated that file, and
now we're back to:

Apr 10 15:16:56 camille exim[26689]: [1\24] 2008-04-10
15:16:56 1Jk3CZ-0006wT-UD
H=web82708.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.89]
F=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> temporarily rejected after
DATA

Any thoughts?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Migrating servers to a new box

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Sullivan

--- Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> --- Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > This morning my server box died (power supply
> > problem
> > I think).  I've pulled the hard drive and am
> trying
> > to
> > set up a similar environment on one of my other
> > boxes.
> >  I've copied over two user home directories, as
> well
> > as exim.conf and dovecot.conf to their proper
> > places,
> > and restarted the servers.  I think we're getting
> > new
> > mail in, but I'm not sure where it's going. 
> > Attached
> > is the results of grep 'Apr 10' /var/log/mail.log
> . 
> > AFAIK, nothing is being rejected.  While we're on
> > the
> > subject, what files do I need to move/replace in
> > order
> > to make sure that all my users can log onto their
> > accounts on this alternate box; is it just
> > /etc/passwd
> > and /etc/shadow, or is there more?
> > 
> 
> I forgot to add in my previous post that I'm using 
> 
> camille ~ # emerge -pv exim
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in
> order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] mail-mta/exim-4.69  USE="X
> exiscan-acl
> ldap mysql pam perl sasl ssl syslog tcpd -dnsdb
> -domainkeys -dovecot-sasl -exiscan -gnutls -ipv6
> -lmtp
> -mailwrapper -mbox -mbx -nis -postgres -radius -spf
> -sqlite -srs" 0 kB 
> 
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0
> kB
> 
> and my exim.conf file (attached)
> 
> And on closer inspection of the mail.log I saw that
> all the messages are being temporarily rejected
> after
> DATA.  Now if only I knew what that meant...
> 
> 


camille ~ # exim -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is undeliverable:
Unrouteable address
<-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Where would it be rewritten as
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

camille ~ # grep baby /etc/exim/*
camille ~ # 


Would this be a DNS thing?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which kernel version is included with 2008.0_beta1?

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Holmes
Sorry, I'm new to Gentoo. :/ Doesn't matter anyway, I found out now and
everything is running smooth.

On 10/04/2008, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:12:00 +0100, Michael Holmes wrote:
>
> > Hi, just finished downloading the 2008.0 beta liveDVD, and I'm just
> > wondering, what kernel version is supplied on the DVDs Stage 3?
>
>
> Stage 3 does not include a kernel.
>
>
>
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>
>


Re: [gentoo-user] X (i810) won't start with undefined symbol

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Grant wrote:
> When I try to start Xorg, the exa module unloads with "undefined
> symbol: fbGlyph8" and then i810 unloads with "undefined symbol:
> exaDriverFini".  Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
>
> (II) LoadModule: "exa"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so: undefined symbol:
> fbGlyph8 (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
> (II) UnloadModule: "exa"
> (EE) Failed to load module "exa" (loader failed, 7)
> (II) LoadModule: "i810"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so
> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so: undefined
> symbol: exaDriverFini
> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so
> (II) UnloadModule: "i810"

What does revdep-rebuild say?

Uwe

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[gentoo-user] X (i810) won't start with undefined symbol

2008-04-10 Thread Grant
When I try to start Xorg, the exa module unloads with "undefined symbol:
fbGlyph8" and then i810 unloads with "undefined symbol:
exaDriverFini".  Can anyone tell me how to fix this?

(II) LoadModule: "exa"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so: undefined symbol: fbGlyph8
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
(II) UnloadModule: "exa"
(EE) Failed to load module "exa" (loader failed, 7)
(II) LoadModule: "i810"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so
dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so: undefined symbol:
exaDriverFini
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so
(II) UnloadModule: "i810"

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Re: [gentoo-user] Old machine update - libexpat upgrade instructions?

2008-04-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:54 AM, b.n. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Knecht ha scritto:
>
>
>
> > Pretty much the same here but this is old hardware and a complete
> > emerge -DuN world would break the machine
> >
>
>  Why? I'm curious about that.
>
>
>  m.

The folks who maintain the portage servers will at times remove old
versions of programs, for instance the ati-drivers package. In that
past I did a blind update and got a new ati-drivers package but
unfortunately it didn't support the ATI 9100 IGP chipset and the
machine broke.

Hope this explains my comment.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] VQF deprecated?

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Mateusz A. Mierzwiński wrote:

Multiple parse errors. :-(

Didn't get at all what you were trying to say.

Please don't get me wrong. I know your mother tongue isn't English, 
neither is mine. You have got one thing to keep in mind: If your 
command of the language you are writing in isn't top notch you better 
adhere to a couple of rules:

- Phrase things as simply as possible. Avoid complicated sentences.

- Don't be sarcastic. Sarcasm gets lost and so does the *content* of 
your post.

- Don't try to be funny. It doesn't come across if you don't know how 
to be funny in a foreign language.

- Be as straight forward as possible. Even if you sound rude (people 
will give you credit for expressing yourself in a language you 
haven't grown up with), that's far better than sounding gibberish.

Native speakers on this lists can try to be funny/ironic/sarcastic. 
People like you and I better use simple English.

I am *not* saying you can't express yourself. You most probably can in 
Polish. 

Couldn't resist to rant a wee bit here. So for balacing it off: Peace, 
love, sunshine, good beer and single malt!

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Migrating servers to a new box

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Sullivan

--- luis jure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> just out of curiosity, doesn't this list have a
> limit on the size of
> the messages that can be posted?
> -- 
> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
> 
> 

I'm sorry.  I'm panicking here.  This mail server is
the only thing in my life I can do that almost
matters.  I guess there's not a strict size limit or
it would be set in the Gentoo mail server...  


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Migrating servers to a new box

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> This morning my server box died (power supply problem
> I think). 

You didn't mean it, did you? Sending an email just short of 1MB to a 
mailing list. Please tell me you made a silly mistake.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Migrating servers to a new box

2008-04-10 Thread luis jure

just out of curiosity, doesn't this list have a limit on the size of
the messages that can be posted?
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[gentoo-user] Re: OT - Migrating servers to a new box

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Sullivan

--- Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This morning my server box died (power supply
> problem
> I think).  I've pulled the hard drive and am trying
> to
> set up a similar environment on one of my other
> boxes.
>  I've copied over two user home directories, as well
> as exim.conf and dovecot.conf to their proper
> places,
> and restarted the servers.  I think we're getting
> new
> mail in, but I'm not sure where it's going. 
> Attached
> is the results of grep 'Apr 10' /var/log/mail.log . 
> AFAIK, nothing is being rejected.  While we're on
> the
> subject, what files do I need to move/replace in
> order
> to make sure that all my users can log onto their
> accounts on this alternate box; is it just
> /etc/passwd
> and /etc/shadow, or is there more?
> 

I forgot to add in my previous post that I'm using 

camille ~ # emerge -pv exim

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] mail-mta/exim-4.69  USE="X exiscan-acl
ldap mysql pam perl sasl ssl syslog tcpd -dnsdb
-domainkeys -dovecot-sasl -exiscan -gnutls -ipv6 -lmtp
-mailwrapper -mbox -mbx -nis -postgres -radius -spf
-sqlite -srs" 0 kB 

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0
kB

and my exim.conf file (attached)

And on closer inspection of the mail.log I saw that
all the messages are being temporarily rejected after
DATA.  Now if only I knew what that meant...



exim.conf
Description: 864943913-exim.conf


[gentoo-user] Postfix Question

2008-04-10 Thread Jason Messerschmitt
I guess I'll dip my toes in here and admit that I can't figure this out.

Synopsis:  I've setup Postfix to be a mail out only smtp server. I just want
it for our Joomla based web pages and our helpdesk to be able to mail to
users from the local server. The problem is this: I can mail to any domain
(gmail, hotmail, yahoo, etc) without problem, but I can't receive mail *
directly* through our A-plus based mail (the worst!). What happens is that
A-plus' server rejects the user as unkown even though I know it is correct.
What really gets my goat is that after that message is returned to my server
it is then delivered to the A-plus server and thusly shows up in my webmail
and email client. Below are my configs.

Postfix:

#soft_bounce = no
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
command_directory = /usr/sbin
daemon_directory = /usr/lib64/postfix
mail_owner = postfix
#default_privs = nobody
myhostname = abulafia.ipr.edu
#myhostname = virtual.domain.tld
mydomain = ipr.edu
myorigin = $myhostname
#myorigin = $mydomain
inet_interfaces = all
#proxy_interfaces =
#proxy_interfaces = 1.2.3.4
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost
#local_recipient_maps = unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps
#local_recipient_maps = proxy:unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps
#local_recipient_maps =
unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450
mynetworks_style = host
mynetworks = 168.100.189.0/28, 127.0.0.0/8
#relay_domains = $mydestination
#relayhost = mail.ipr.edu
#relayhost = smtp.comcast.net
#relay_recipient_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/relay_recipients
#in_flow_delay = 1s
#alias_maps = dbm:/etc/aliases
#alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
#alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, nis:mail.aliases
#alias_maps = netinfo:/aliases
#alias_database = dbm:/etc/aliases
#alias_database = dbm:/etc/mail/aliases
#alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
#alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/opt/majordomo/aliases
#home_mailbox = Mailbox
#home_mailbox = Maildir/
#mail_spool_directory = /var/mail
#mail_spool_directory = /var/spool/mail
#mailbox_command = /some/where/procmail
#mailbox_command = /some/where/procmail -a "$EXTENSION"
#mailbox_transport = lmtp:unix:/file/name
#mailbox_transport = cyrus
#fallback_transport = lmtp:unix:/file/name
#fallback_transport = cyrus
#fallback_transport =
#luser_relay = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#luser_relay = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#luser_relay = admin+$local
#header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks
#fast_flush_domains = $relay_domains
#smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name
#smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name ($mail_version)
#local_destination_concurrency_limit = 2
#default_destination_concurrency_limit = 20
debug_peer_level = 2
#debug_peer_list = 127.0.0.1
#debug_peer_list = some.domain
debugger_command =
 PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
 xxgdb $daemon_directory/$process_name $process_id & sleep 5

sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail
newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases
mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq
setgid_group = postdrop
html_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.4.5/html
manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
sample_directory = /etc/postfix
readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.4.5/readme
home_mailbox = .maildir/


Re: [gentoo-user] Old machine update - libexpat upgrade instructions?

2008-04-10 Thread b.n.

Mark Knecht ha scritto:


Pretty much the same here but this is old hardware and a complete
emerge -DuN world would break the machine 


Why? I'm curious about that.


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[gentoo-user] VQF deprecated?

2008-04-10 Thread Mateusz A. Mierzwiński

Hi,

I just wan't to know, why software such as amarok don't go way, like 
winamp - more formats available for playing because of plugins? SO 
libraries are also dynamic linked, so why I don't have any player for 
VQF format? I must emulate Winamp with wine to play VQF of course with 
better sound quality with DSP plugins like  3D Spatial Sound. My god! 
This is Linux - best operating system on the world, why software 
producers are so closed to world? Wining with Windows is endless future. 
XMMS was playing VQF but XMMS was removed from portage because some bugs 
(what software don't have one). I know that OGG is better, or even MP3 
(MPEG-1 Layer 3) but VQF in 80kbps is still lossless compresion - MP3 
and OGG not, and I like to listen good quality music with all tones, 
even not heared. PS: human ear toleration is little part different for 
different people - MP3 and OGG is not good compression for audiophiles.


Mateusz M.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which kernel version is included with 2008.0_beta1?

2008-04-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:12:00 +0100, Michael Holmes wrote:

> Hi, just finished downloading the 2008.0 beta liveDVD, and I'm just
> wondering, what kernel version is supplied on the DVDs Stage 3?

Stage 3 does not include a kernel.


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[gentoo-user] (EE) R128(0): No DFP detected

2008-04-10 Thread maxim wexler
Hi group,

I get this error when I attempt startx. I have a
legacy AGP Rage128, ATI card and the driver is
compiled into the kernel to allow for the framebuffer.

So far I've emerged vf86-video-ati and then, in
desperation, xf86-video-vga without success.

I don't see anything else under
/usr/portage/x11-drivers that would suit.

ati-drivers is for the higher end Radeon products
isn't it, I mean the newer low-voltage stuff?

There's a few links on the Web to similar problems but
no solutions that I've been able to uncover.

Maxim

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[gentoo-user] %LDAP sudoers

2008-04-10 Thread Mario Ignacio Rodríguez Cortés
Hi list:

I have a problem at the moment that i try to execute a command as a sudo
user, quikly, I have two machines, the first is my LDAP server and the
second is my client on LDAP, the authentication whit any user that is in
the LDAP data base is succesful, but when i execute the sudo command i
get the following lines in the /var/log/messages:

nss_ldap: reconnecting to LDAP server (sleeping 1 seconds)...
nss_ldap: reconnecting to LDAP server (sleeping 2 seconds)...
nss_ldap: reconnecting to LDAP server (sleeping 4 seconds)...
nss_ldap: reconnecting to LDAP server (sleeping 8 seconds)...
nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server - Server is unavailable
uid 1050 does not exist in the passwd file! ; TTY=pts/9 ; PWD=unknown ;
USER=root ; COMMAND=vim
Unable to locate mail
Cannot open mail:25


I follow the guide sudo README.LDAP
(http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/readme_ldap.html) and i made all the steps in
this guide but the messages are still displayed, the guide say in
certain point that the sudoers file can be disabled putting in
the /etc/sudoers the line "Defaults ignore_local_sudoers", I did this
too but the same messages.

I don't understand why continues seek the user in the /etc/passwd file,
any idea?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dell PowerEdge 750 problem

2008-04-10 Thread Amar Cosic
>
>
> What disk hardware do you have?
>
>
> --
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http://pastebin.ca/979686

http://pastebin.ca/979691

DOnt know actualy how to get full disk info. Hope this can help

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dell PowerEdge 750 problem

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Amar Cosic wrote:
> Alan
>
> I tried everything, tor on all scsi stuff,almost all ata/sata stuff,
> but still no luck :/ .Do you know exactly where to look for libata in
> kernel menu ?

What disk hardware do you have?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Dell PowerEdge 750 problem

2008-04-10 Thread Amar Cosic
Alan

I tried everything, tor on all scsi stuff,almost all ata/sata stuff, but
still no luck :/ .Do you know exactly where to look for libata in kernel
menu ?

Thanks

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Amar Cosic wrote:
> > Actually hell.. Dont know what to do. I am tryng to setup Gentoo on
> > this server all the day and whatever I try there is no luck. I used
> > genkernel andd Lilo and whenever I try to boot from HD I got:
> >
> > Block device /dev/sda3 is not valid root device...
> > Could not find the root block device in.
>
> You have not compiled all the needed drivers into the kernel. You'll
> need drivers for your chipset, the scsi stuff and libata.
>
> Try google, this has been asked and answered hundreds of times this year
> alone.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Dell PowerEdge 750 problem

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Amar Cosic wrote:
> Actually hell.. Dont know what to do. I am tryng to setup Gentoo on
> this server all the day and whatever I try there is no luck. I used
> genkernel andd Lilo and whenever I try to boot from HD I got:
>
> Block device /dev/sda3 is not valid root device...
> Could not find the root block device in.

You have not compiled all the needed drivers into the kernel. You'll 
need drivers for your chipset, the scsi stuff and libata.

Try google, this has been asked and answered hundreds of times this year 
alone.


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[gentoo-user] Which kernel version is included with 2008.0_beta1?

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Holmes
Hi, just finished downloading the 2008.0 beta liveDVD, and I'm just
wondering, what kernel version is supplied on the DVDs Stage 3?


[gentoo-user] Dell PowerEdge 750 problem

2008-04-10 Thread Amar Cosic
Actually hell.. Dont know what to do. I am tryng to setup Gentoo on this
server all the day and whatever I try there is no luck. I used genkernel
andd Lilo and whenever I try to boot from HD I got:

Block device /dev/sda3 is not valid root device...
Could not find the root block device in.


Anyone knows at all any solution to this ? :/

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:10:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> I usually find that I need to look in the ebuilds anyway to see what is 
> going on and get enough info to make a decision, at which point I'm not 
> looking at emerge's output anymore :-)

Because of the nature of a block, only one of the named packages can be
installed, so just unmerge that one, wherever it appears in the block
message :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
> On Thursday 10 April 2008, 14:08, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > In any event, when portage says "A blocks B" your options and
> > always only:
> >
> > - unmerge B and optionally remerge or upgrade it later
> > - do not use A
>
> I have always resolved "A blocks B" problems by unmerging A. After
> that, portage was not complaining anymore, and B emerged fine.
>
> Or at least, that's what I think I did :-)

That was what I did as well in the past. Didn't work this time because 
I couldn't unmerge A because it apparently wasn't installed yet.

Obviously Alan was right because all went well after I unmerged B. The 
problem remains that I am pretty sure I will draw the same conclusion 
next time this happens. Well, I will read Alans explanation another 
couple of times. Maybe enlightenment will eventual strike me. ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 10 April 2008, 14:08, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> In any event, when portage says "A blocks B" your options and always
> only:
>
> - unmerge B and optionally remerge or upgrade it later
> - do not use A

I have always resolved "A blocks B" problems by unmerging A. After that, 
portage was not complaining anymore, and B emerged fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Dale wrote:
> It appears this human is a bit dense.  I !think! I get it but not
> real sure.  May have to read that a few more times.  Sounds like the
> clue is the missing U and D part.

man emerge, the --pretend option has some useful info.

I usually find that I need to look in the ebuilds anyway to see what is 
going on and get enough info to make a decision, at which point I'm not 
looking at emerge's output anymore :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox crash when playing flash

2008-04-10 Thread Gustavo Campos
I was having the same problem here, looking over the web found a
solution used for Ubuntu users I could adapt for me.

Exporting the environment variable FIREFOX_DSP="auto" solved the
crashing for me.

At the other hand, my mplayer plugin is not working, but I don't
really know if it was before the change, probably not... anyway more
tests are needed, but Flash is working fine now =)

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Qi Baobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry for replying so late.
>
>  My computer is 32bit.
>
>  I will try what  Roman said, thanks for that.
>
>  I will paste the result later.
>
>  :)
>
>
> On 20:27 Wed 09 Apr , "Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski" wrote:
>  > Roman Zilka pisze:
>  >> Hello,
>  >>
>  >> I don't have any specific idea, but try recompiling Firefox without any
>  >> CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS set. Using another Flash implementation (Gnash/Adobe)
>  >> might solve the problem too (or introduce new problems:). Also try
>  >> cleaning up your Firefox profile (in terms of add-ons, most
>  >> importantly).
>  >>
>  >> -rz
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>> [ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.13  USE="ipv6 -bindist
>  >>> -debug -filepicker -gnome -iceweasel -java -mozdevelop -moznopango
>  >>> -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" LINGUAS="zh_CN -af -ar
>  >>> -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy
>  >>> -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb
>  >>> -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl
>  >>> -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_TW" 0 kB
>  >>> uname -a
>  >>> Linux bobbin 2.6.24-gentoo-r3 #15 SMP Sun Mar 30 20:16:31 Local time zone
>  >>> must be set--see zic i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz
>  >>> GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
>  >>>
>  >
>  > Do you have 32 or 64-bits Linux (exec. x86_64). If You use 64 bits (36
>  > physical and 48 virtual addressing) You will have problem with flash. Flash
>  > by adobe was only release 32-bit. NSWrapper emulates (converts) address
>  > spaces but ABI have running issues between 32 and 64bit version. Also Adobe
>  > is far enough to release 64-bit version, so You must try to live with it.
>  > If you have enough flash problem install 32-bit Gentoo Linux.
>  >
>  > Greet's
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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
> If the word in emerge output was "block", meaning generically "there
> is a block, an incompatibility" you would be correct. But that word
> is "blocks", 3rd person singular, implying a subject and an object,
> ie something blocks something else. Or, at least that's how I see
> that, and I may be wrong of course.

If you read the ebuild you see what is actually going on with the 
blocks, and the output could indeed be ambiguous. 

"blocks" is 6 letters. A semantically correct phrase is longer and takes 
up heaps of line length. The emerge dev apparently favours brevity and 
complete data over absolute descriptive correctness.

In any event, when portage says "A blocks B" your options and always 
only:

- unmerge B and optionally remerge or upgrade it later
- do not use A

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 10 April 2008, 12:56, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> > This is not sensible. If Uwe says "A blocks B", it means that A is
> > getting in the way of B, not the other way around.
>
> No, that's incorrect. I think you are attaching an incorrect meaning
> to the output wording.
>
> In this case, A's ebuild DEPENDs on !B
>
> The error output has to come from A's ebuild as that is where the
> block comes from, and the standard wording is "A blocks B" as in: A's
> ebuild says it cannot be merged if B is already there.

I'm no native speaker, but I'd call whay you describe "B blocks A", not 
viceversa.

> B does not block A as B's ebuild did not know about A when it was
> written. B does nto have a problem with A, instead A knows it has a
> problem with B. You should read "block" in emerge output as a synonym
> for "incompatible with" rather than "gets in the way of" as you appear
> to be doing.

If the word in emerge output was "block", meaning generically "there is a 
block, an incompatibility" you would be correct. But that word 
is "blocks", 3rd person singular, implying a subject and an object, ie 
something blocks something else. Or, at least that's how I see that, and 
I may be wrong of course.
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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Dale

Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Thursday 10 April 2008, Dale wrote:
  

Alan McKinnon wrote:


On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote:
  

Hi folks,

emerge --update world tells me:
[blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking
dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2)

emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me:
--- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge.

So let's be more specific:
emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me:
--- Couldn't find '=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10' to unmerge.


emerge -C gtk-doc

Look closely at the error message, it's like one of those optical
illusions where you don't quite get it first time :-)
  

Well said.  I'm still not sure I get it.  I would have went to
console and unmerged the whole lot and started over.  LOL



hehe, emerge's output can be tricky to parse. Here's the long version:

In this line:
[blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking 
dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2)


everything there comes out of the gtk-doc-am ebuild, including what it's 
not happy with. This specific case says that gtk-doc-1.8-r2 is already 
installed and gtk-doc-am will not merge itself while it's there.


The [blocks B ] bit says that gtk-doc-am is not already installed 
(there isn't an R or U or D there at all) so there is nothing to 
unmerge.


Usually with blockers, you have to unmerge the thing being blocked (in 
brackets on the above line) first. Or, if you don't want that, don't 
merge the main package, or mask it out.


The correct merge approach would be to build a suitable upgraded 
gtk-doc, merge it (which unmerges the old one) and then merge 
gtk-doc-am (on the assumption that gtk-doc-am is happy with the new 
version of gtk-doc). For some reason portage can't do that this time, 
probably build order, so it's telling the user to do it manually and 
try again.


If you want to look deeper into what is going on, the solution is in the 
ebuild. From /var/portage/dev-util/gtk-doc-am/gtk-doc-am-1.10.ebuild:


DEPEND="!<=dev-utils/gtk-doc-1.10"

Aha, so the only current version that will work is gtk-doc-1.10-r1. This 
was probably revised to accomodate gtk-doc-am.


It gets even better. 
From /var/portage/dev-util/gtk-doc/gtk-doc-1.8-r2.ebuild:

DEPEND="!dev-util/gtk-doc-am"

and from /var/portage/dev-util/gtk-doc/gtk-doc-1.10-r1.ebuild:
DEPEND="=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-${PV}

Now it all becomes clearer with a little reading between the lines. The 
dev took gtk-doc and split it into two packages, to get the automake 
(-am) stuff into it's own ebuild. But that will mean that gtk-doc-am 
will trash files that gtk-doc put there. This is a collision and 
portage won't do it. It's written to pass the buck to a human 
instead :-)


  



It appears this human is a bit dense.  I !think! I get it but not real 
sure.  May have to read that a few more times.  Sounds like the clue is 
the missing U and D part. 


Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Thursday 10 April 2008 08:30:21 Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 09:11 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > > Emerge clearly said that gtk-doc-am blocked gtk-doc, not the
> > > other way round.
> >
> > gtk-doc-am _does_ block gtk-doc.  Since you already have gtk-doc
> > installed, gtk-doc-am couldn't go ahead.
>
> This is not sensible. If Uwe says "A blocks B", it means that A is
> getting in the way of B, not the other way around.

No, that's incorrect. I think you are attaching an incorrect meaning to 
the output wording.

In this case, A's ebuild DEPENDs on !B

The error output has to come from A's ebuild as that is where the block 
comes from, and the standard wording is "A blocks B" as in: A's ebuild 
says it cannot be merged if B is already there.

B does not block A as B's ebuild did not know about A when it was 
written. B does nto have a problem with A, instead A knows it has a 
problem with B. You should read "block" in emerge output as a synonym 
for "incompatible with" rather than "gets in the way of" as you appear 
to be doing.

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 10 April 2008 08:30:21 Iain Buchanan wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 09:11 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > Emerge clearly said that gtk-doc-am blocked gtk-doc, not the other way
> > round.
>
> gtk-doc-am _does_ block gtk-doc.  Since you already have gtk-doc
> installed, gtk-doc-am couldn't go ahead.

This is not sensible. If Uwe says "A blocks B", it means that A is getting 
in the way of B, not the other way around.

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox crash when playing flash

2008-04-10 Thread Qi Baobin
Sorry for replying so late.

My computer is 32bit.

I will try what  Roman said, thanks for that.

I will paste the result later.

:) 
On 20:27 Wed 09 Apr , "Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski" wrote:
> Roman Zilka pisze:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I don't have any specific idea, but try recompiling Firefox without any
>> CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS set. Using another Flash implementation (Gnash/Adobe)
>> might solve the problem too (or introduce new problems:). Also try
>> cleaning up your Firefox profile (in terms of add-ons, most
>> importantly).
>>
>> -rz
>>
>>
>>   
>>> [ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.13  USE="ipv6 -bindist 
>>> -debug -filepicker -gnome -iceweasel -java -mozdevelop -moznopango 
>>> -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" LINGUAS="zh_CN -af -ar 
>>> -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy 
>>> -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb 
>>> -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl 
>>> -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_TW" 0 kB 
>>> uname -a
>>> Linux bobbin 2.6.24-gentoo-r3 #15 SMP Sun Mar 30 20:16:31 Local time zone 
>>> must be set--see zic i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz 
>>> GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
>>> 
>
> Do you have 32 or 64-bits Linux (exec. x86_64). If You use 64 bits (36 
> physical and 48 virtual addressing) You will have problem with flash. Flash 
> by adobe was only release 32-bit. NSWrapper emulates (converts) address 
> spaces but ABI have running issues between 32 and 64bit version. Also Adobe 
> is far enough to release 64-bit version, so You must try to live with it. 
> If you have enough flash problem install 32-bit Gentoo Linux.
>
> Greet's
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Re: [gentoo-user] reference manager

2008-04-10 Thread Gavin Seddon

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

On Thursday 10 April 2008, 11:09, Gavin Seddon wrote:

Hi,
Is there a good, fully functional rm available on portage.  That is
one that can be used with oo, inserts papers in various bib format and
EASY.


I have tried Jabref I wondered if there is a better one before I input
all my papers?
Gavin


Check out zotero (http://www.zotero.org). Not in portage, but it's a 
firefox/oo extension and can thus be installed easily.
Other programs (in portage) are pybliographer or bibus. However, zotero 
is the most powerful imho (I used it some time ago).


Hope this helps.


Thanks Zotero's great!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo AMD64, games freeze!

2008-04-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 7. April 2008, Gyuszk wrote:

> Maybe I have to set some USE flags? Thanks in advance!

more likely that some lib used by the games needs to rebuilt.
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Re: [gentoo-user] reference manager

2008-04-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 10 April 2008, 11:09, Gavin Seddon wrote:
> Hi,
> Is there a good, fully functional rm available on portage.  That is
> one that can be used with oo, inserts papers in various bib format and
> EASY.
>
>
> I have tried Jabref I wondered if there is a better one before I input
> all my papers?
> Gavin

Check out zotero (http://www.zotero.org). Not in portage, but it's a 
firefox/oo extension and can thus be installed easily.
Other programs (in portage) are pybliographer or bibus. However, zotero 
is the most powerful imho (I used it some time ago).

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[gentoo-user] reference manager

2008-04-10 Thread Gavin Seddon

Hi,
Is there a good, fully functional rm available on portage.  That is one 
that can be used with oo, inserts papers in various bib format and EASY. 



I have tried Jabref I wondered if there is a better one before I input 
all my papers?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo AMD64, games freeze!

2008-04-10 Thread Abraham Gyorgy
Okay thanks guys, I'll write this post on the gentoo-amd64 list.

2008/4/9, "Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Mark Knecht pisze:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Marzan, Richard non Unisys
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > >
> > > >
> > >  > From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > >  > Those of us on the Gentoo-amd64 list welcome you to come join us.
> > >  >
> > >  > - Mark
> > >  > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
> > > >
> > > >
> > >  Doesn't it seems strange that most users posts on the gentoo-user ml,
> > >  regardless of what other ml are available for their topic? I must say
> > >  that I am guilty of that too. Doesn't anyone post to gentoo
> > >  subcategorized ml anymore?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Well, I certainly post on the gentoo-amd64 list when my questions are
> > specific to my 64-bit machines. things like how to make Flash, java,
> > plugins, etc., work better on that platform are, to me, very
> > appropriate to that list.
> >
> > I post here for more general conversations.
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> >
> I think that this types of info should be mailed to gentoo-user. But when
> we post about incompatibility (something don't work as this should) then
> better to post to gentoo-amd64 list.
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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 10 April 2008, 09:57, Uwe Thiem wrote:

> > Often with a blocker, you don't have the blockee already installed.
> >  ie. blocker-pkg blocks blockee-pkg, and both are required by other
> > ebuilds...
>
> I must be extraordinarily dense these days. I don't get it. How can a
> non-installed package block an installed one? Somehow this doesn't
> want to penetrate my skull. :-(

As I read it, the /blocker/ must be installed, whereas the /blockee/ not.
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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> emerge --update world tells me:
> >> [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking
> >> dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2)
> >>
> >> emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me:
> >> --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge.
> >>
> >> So let's be more specific:
> >> emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me:
> >> --- Couldn't find '=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10' to unmerge.
> >
> > emerge -C gtk-doc
> >
> > Look closely at the error message, it's like one of those optical
> > illusions where you don't quite get it first time :-)
>
> Well said.  I'm still not sure I get it.  I would have went to
> console and unmerged the whole lot and started over.  LOL

hehe, emerge's output can be tricky to parse. Here's the long version:

In this line:
[blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking 
dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2)

everything there comes out of the gtk-doc-am ebuild, including what it's 
not happy with. This specific case says that gtk-doc-1.8-r2 is already 
installed and gtk-doc-am will not merge itself while it's there.

The [blocks B ] bit says that gtk-doc-am is not already installed 
(there isn't an R or U or D there at all) so there is nothing to 
unmerge.

Usually with blockers, you have to unmerge the thing being blocked (in 
brackets on the above line) first. Or, if you don't want that, don't 
merge the main package, or mask it out.

The correct merge approach would be to build a suitable upgraded 
gtk-doc, merge it (which unmerges the old one) and then merge 
gtk-doc-am (on the assumption that gtk-doc-am is happy with the new 
version of gtk-doc). For some reason portage can't do that this time, 
probably build order, so it's telling the user to do it manually and 
try again.

If you want to look deeper into what is going on, the solution is in the 
ebuild. From /var/portage/dev-util/gtk-doc-am/gtk-doc-am-1.10.ebuild:

DEPEND="!<=dev-utils/gtk-doc-1.10"

Aha, so the only current version that will work is gtk-doc-1.10-r1. This 
was probably revised to accomodate gtk-doc-am.

It gets even better. 
From /var/portage/dev-util/gtk-doc/gtk-doc-1.8-r2.ebuild:
DEPEND="!dev-util/gtk-doc-am"

and from /var/portage/dev-util/gtk-doc/gtk-doc-1.10-r1.ebuild:
DEPEND="=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-${PV}

Now it all becomes clearer with a little reading between the lines. The 
dev took gtk-doc and split it into two packages, to get the automake 
(-am) stuff into it's own ebuild. But that will mean that gtk-doc-am 
will trash files that gtk-doc put there. This is a collision and 
portage won't do it. It's written to pass the buck to a human 
instead :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Iain Buchanan wrote:

> gtk-doc-am _does_ block gtk-doc.  Since you already have gtk-doc
> installed, gtk-doc-am couldn't go ahead.
>
> Often with a blocker, you don't have the blockee already installed.
>  ie. blocker-pkg blocks blockee-pkg, and both are required by other
> ebuilds...

I must be extraordinarily dense these days. I don't get it. How can a 
non-installed package block an installed one? Somehow this doesn't 
want to penetrate my skull. :-(

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Dale

Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote:
  

Hi folks,

emerge --update world tells me:
[blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking
dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2)

emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me:
--- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge.

So let's be more specific:
emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me:
--- Couldn't find '=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10' to unmerge.



emerge -C gtk-doc

Look closely at the error message, it's like one of those optical 
illusions where you don't quite get it first time :-)



  


Well said.  I'm still not sure I get it.  I would have went to console 
and unmerged the whole lot and started over.  LOL 


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 09:11 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> 
> > I think it just means gtk-doc-am wants a newer gtk-doc, so it's
> > blocking the one you have installed.  You need to uninstall
> > gtk-doc, and then you can install a newer gtk-doc and gtk-doc-am.
> 
> It works. Thanks! But I don't understand why. Emerge clearly said that 
> gtk-doc-am blocked gtk-doc, not the other way round. Uh, well...

gtk-doc-am _does_ block gtk-doc.  Since you already have gtk-doc
installed, gtk-doc-am couldn't go ahead.

Often with a blocker, you don't have the blockee already installed.  ie.
blocker-pkg blocks blockee-pkg, and both are required by other
ebuilds...
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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> emerge --update world tells me:
> [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking
> dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2)
>
> emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me:
> --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge.
>
> So let's be more specific:
> emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me:
> --- Couldn't find '=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10' to unmerge.

emerge -C gtk-doc

Look closely at the error message, it's like one of those optical 
illusions where you don't quite get it first time :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Iain Buchanan wrote:

> I think it just means gtk-doc-am wants a newer gtk-doc, so it's
> blocking the one you have installed.  You need to uninstall
> gtk-doc, and then you can install a newer gtk-doc and gtk-doc-am.

It works. Thanks! But I don't understand why. Emerge clearly said that 
gtk-doc-am blocked gtk-doc, not the other way round. Uh, well...

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread tecnic5
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:51 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: 
> On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Dale wrote:
> > Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > emerge --update world tells me:
> > > [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking
> > > dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2)
> > >
> > > emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me:
> > > --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge.
> > >
> > > So let's be more specific:
> > > emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me:
> > > --- Couldn't find '=dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10' to unmerge.
> > >
> > > Now what?

heh heh!

> > Equery list gtk-doc and see what it says is installed.  It may not
> > be that exact version.  Ran into something similar a while back.
> 
> uwix uwe # equery list gtk-doc-am
> [ Searching for package 'gtk-doc-am' in all categories among: ]
>  * installed packages
> uwix uwe # equery list gtk-doc
> [ Searching for package 'gtk-doc' in all categories among: ]
>  * installed packages
> [I--] [  ] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2 (0)
> 
> gtk-doc-1.8-r2 is the package that gets blocked, it isn't installed 
> yet..

yes it is!  equery just told you so! 

> More interesting is that the first equery didn't list anything, but 
> the gtk-doc-am ebuild exists:
> uwix uwe # ls /usr/portage/dev-util/gtk-doc-am
> ChangeLog  Manifest  gtk-doc-am-1.10.ebuild  metadata.xml

yes, the ebuild exists, but it's not installed!  Therefore equery didn't
show it to you.

> G. Wanted to let a long compile sesses run overnight - and now 
> this! Conspiracies. All around me. Against my innocent self.

:)

I think it just means gtk-doc-am wants a newer gtk-doc, so it's blocking
the one you have installed.  You need to uninstall gtk-doc, and then you
can install a newer gtk-doc and gtk-doc-am.
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**

Exactly, from gtk-doc-am's ebuild we get:

DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
!<=dev-utils/gtk-doc-1.10"

That seems gtk-doc-am can't be installed if gtk-doc is older than version 
gtk-doc-1.0 and you seem to be working with gtk-doc-1.8-r2. As Iain 
Buchanan said, uninstall gtk-doc and run everything, that should work.

Abraham

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