Re: [gentoo-user] trouble emerging R and tcltk
On Thursday 01 May 2008, John P. Burkett wrote: eix reveals that the required USE flag is in fact tk Thanks, Alan! Changing the USE flag from tcltk to tk, as you suggested, was the key to getting R to find tcltk. After making that change, doing emerge -C R and emerge R was enough to correct the problem. Moving slightly off-topic, it would have been nice if portage had told you that you were trying to use an unsupported USE flag in a more obvious way than the simple yellow 'tcltk%' it currently gives. It's very easy to miss that in the huge mass of detail from emerge world. I'd prefer a more verbose message at the end, where blockers and masking information goes. Such a thing would have saved you much effort. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:17:34 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world Edit at will with sense of abandon vi /etc/make.conf Edit where appropriate vi /etc/portage/* Fearlessly edit throwing caution to the winds loop_entry: emerge -avuND world Resolve blockers emerge --resume --skipfirst (bonus points if you correctly predict which packages will fail to build) emerge -av --depclean goto loop_entry What a horrible suggestion, not only does it use vi - three time! - but it ends with a goto! Here's a much more horrible thing: In which way does the suggestion, horrible as it is, depart from reality? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble emerging R and tcltk
On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:28:06 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Moving slightly off-topic, it would have been nice if portage had told you that you were trying to use an unsupported USE flag in a more obvious way than the simple yellow 'tcltk%' it currently gives. It's very easy to miss that in the huge mass of detail from emerge world. You have to run it manually, but flagedit warns of any unsupported flags in make.conf or package.use. -- Neil Bothwick ... I dropped my toothpaste, Tom said, Crestfallen. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:30:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: What a horrible suggestion, not only does it use vi - three times! - but it ends with a goto! Here's a much more horrible thing: In which way does the suggestion, horrible as it is, depart from reality? Your reality must be bad if you have to use vi that often ;-) -- Neil Bothwick He's so cool, he could get frostbite from masturbating. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
On Thursday 01 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world What if I emerge -vC all I know I don't want. All kde all gnome all xorg for example, before update world. It seems fine in theory, but every time I've done it in real life I get into deep dependency trees that take more time to sort out than simply emerging world first. The trouble seems to be that it's easy to spot the high level packages that bring in all their DEPENDS - things like kde,gnome,xorg-x11. It's harder to spot the dependencies that want to bring everything back in again. kde is easy - the string 'kde' shows up in most of the names. gnome is harder as the names are much more randomly chosen. Plus, emerge --depclean will refuse to run until emerge world returns nothing to do. So you first have to get all the gui stuff out of the world file, identify *all* installed gui packages not in world and emerge -C them, then run emerge world followed by emerge --depclean. Like I said, I have found every time I've done it that it actually took longer and wasted more of my time and caused more frustration than just building kde. At least when building kde I could walk away and come back tomorrow. Fiddling world requires you to be there, watch the screen, decide, type next command, repeat. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kaffeine audio problem
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Danis Petkakis wrote: hello there i try to play .mkv files with kaffeine but there is no sound...when i play some .avi files the sound is proper...also when i play .mkv files with vlc sound is also ok...what might be the problem and i don't have any sound in .mkv when using kaffeine?? this seems to happen only for .mkv files with vorbis sound embedded as i can play just fine .mkv files with aac sound embedded...thanks for your response... Have you enabled the vorbis flag when emerging kaffeine? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:30:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: What a horrible suggestion, not only does it use vi - three times! - but it ends with a goto! Here's a much more horrible thing: In which way does the suggestion, horrible as it is, depart from reality? Your reality must be bad if you have to use vi that often ;-) The last time my machine was (a) switch on for more than 5 minutes and (b) was not running vi either locally or in a remote screen session, was ... lemme think ... sometime around 2004?? vi is good vi is TheOneTrueUnixWay(tm) vi runs anywhere vi works on keyboards from the '70s vi was written by Bill Joy Bill Joy wrote lots of good stuff in BSD Our favourite OS owes a lot to BSD using vi pays homage to those magnificent BSD'ers of old If you hold up your hand with all fingers except the ring finger extended, it spells vi to others Bram works at Google I had a vi question two weeks ago. A colleague found a good friend at Google on IRC and asked him for help with the vi question. This good friend said Hang on a sec, I'll ask Bram, he sits two desks away (!!) The universe does not drop obvious nano hints in our laps like it does with vi (see above). The universe's will in this regard is self-evident. I rest my case. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype notworking
Mick wrote: 2008/4/30 Gavin Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: skype /opt/skype/skype: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.1' not found (required by /opt/skype/skype) /opt/skype/skype: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.4' not found (required by /opt/skype/skype) when I try skype I get the above. Can anyone help pls? Did you try revdep-rebuild -X -v -p ? Yes, same. thanks. g -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype notworking
Hi, I used revdep-rebuild --SEARCH_DIRS /opt with no luck. How do I check it to enable /opt? thanks g -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype notworking
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote: Hi, I used revdep-rebuild --SEARCH_DIRS /opt with no luck. How do I check it to enable /opt? thanks g revdep-rebuild will not solve your problem. It only fixes problems where binaries used to link to other files that are no longer there. It cannot fix your incompatible CXXABI versions in libstdc++ as it doesn't know which gcc versions provide that. Read this thread: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4107570.html?sid=8acb0d609d3259d3af0dd1c262c7d277 the last post on the page is especially informative. Run this: strings /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/libstdc++.so.6 | grep ABI to find out what version your gcc is providing. skype requires: CXXABI_1.3.1 GLIBCXX_3.4.4 as per your original post. I recommend you upgrade gcc to version 4.1.2 -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype notworking
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 01 May 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote: Hi, I used revdep-rebuild --SEARCH_DIRS /opt with no luck. How do I check it to enable /opt? thanks g revdep-rebuild will not solve your problem. It only fixes problems where binaries used to link to other files that are no longer there. It cannot fix your incompatible CXXABI versions in libstdc++ as it doesn't know which gcc versions provide that. Read this thread: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4107570.html?sid=8acb0d609d3259d3af0dd1c262c7d277 the last post on the page is especially informative. Run this: strings /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/libstdc++.so.6 | grep ABI to find out what version your gcc is providing. skype requires: CXXABI_1.3.1 GLIBCXX_3.4.4 as per your original post. I recommend you upgrade gcc to version 4.1.2 thanks, However I need gcc 3~ for some critical software. If I change to 4 'it' won't recompile. I suppose I could alternate profiles as required. g -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype notworking
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 01 May 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote: Hi, I used revdep-rebuild --SEARCH_DIRS /opt with no luck. How do I check it to enable /opt? thanks g revdep-rebuild will not solve your problem. It only fixes problems where binaries used to link to other files that are no longer there. It cannot fix your incompatible CXXABI versions in libstdc++ as it doesn't know which gcc versions provide that. Read this thread: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4107570.html?sid=8acb0d609d3259d3af0dd1c262c7d277 the last post on the page is especially informative. Run this: strings /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/libstdc++.so.6 | grep ABI to find out what version your gcc is providing. skype requires: CXXABI_1.3.1 GLIBCXX_3.4.4 skype Floating exception as per your original post. I recommend you upgrade gcc to version 4.1.2 I've altered gcc to 4 now I get 'skype Floating exception ' thanks g -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype notworking
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote: as per your original post. I recommend you upgrade gcc to version 4.1.2 thanks, However I need gcc 3~ for some critical software. If I change to 4 'it' won't recompile. I suppose I could alternate profiles as required. I had that with qemu. It reduced me to tears... Lucky for skype I think it will be easier as you don't build skype: emerge gcc-4.something set gcc-3 to the system compiler make sure gcc-3 libs are earlier in LD_LIBRARY_PATH than gcc-4 run skype with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1 skype -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype notworking
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote: as per your original post. I recommend you upgrade gcc to version 4.1.2 I've altered gcc to 4 now I get 'skype Floating exception did you run env-update and either source /etc/profile or log out/log in first? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] man pages not displaying right
I noticed today that my man pages aren't displaying correctly. Whenever I view one, I see the ESC codes rather than seeing bold fonts, etc. I don't remeber when I last used man and it displayed correctly, but I can check back 2 weeks this evening. I have tried several terminals (xterm, gnome-terminal, konsole) and all have the problem. Would this be a tercap problem? Unicode issue, perhaps? -- -M There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who can count in binary and those who cannot. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype notworking
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 01 May 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote: as per your original post. I recommend you upgrade gcc to version 4.1.2 thanks, However I need gcc 3~ for some critical software. If I change to 4 'it' won't recompile. I suppose I could alternate profiles as required. I had that with qemu. It reduced me to tears... Lucky for skype I think it will be easier as you don't build skype: emerge gcc-4.something set gcc-3 to the system compiler make sure gcc-3 libs are earlier in LD_LIBRARY_PATH than gcc-4 run skype with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1 skype samething, sorry. g -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] man pages not displaying right - SOLVED
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 08:20:44AM -0400, Michael George wrote: I noticed today that my man pages aren't displaying correctly. Whenever I view one, I see the ESC codes rather than seeing bold fonts, etc. I don't remeber when I last used man and it displayed correctly, but I can check back 2 weeks this evening. I have tried several terminals (xterm, gnome-terminal, konsole) and all have the problem. Would this be a tercap problem? Unicode issue, perhaps? It was /etc/man-conf. A change in the NROFF definition caused the problem. Running dispatch-conf didn't prompt me for the config change, so I ran etc-update this time and found it. Hopefully this will be helpful for someone. -- -M There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who can count in binary and those who cannot. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype notworking ]SOLVED]
Hi,I dl from skype.com and with gcc4~ IT WORKS! thanks g -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2008.0_beta2: no make.defaults in 2008.0 profile ?
Hi, I just gave 2008.0_beta2 Minimal a try and there is no make.defaults file in the profile directory /etc/make.profile - ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0 However there is a make.defaults file inside /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux Is this how it should be? Thanks, -- Valmor de Almeida -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2008.0_beta2: no make.defaults in 2008.0 profile ?
On Thursday 01 May 2008, de Almeida, Valmor F. wrote: Hi, I just gave 2008.0_beta2 Minimal a try and there is no make.defaults file in the profile directory /etc/make.profile - ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0 However there is a make.defaults file inside /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux Is this how it should be? Yes. The directory contains one file - parent with these contents: ../../../../releases/2008.0 follow that and your will find the actual profile files -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype notworking ]SOLVED]
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Gavin Seddon wrote: Hi,I dl from skype.com and with gcc4~ IT WORKS! thanks g I seem to remember having something similar. I think it was one of the 2.0.0 versions - 48? 63? Could never get it to work. Eventually I just put an old ebuild in my overlay and used that instead. The latest skype also works for me. Did you download the qt-static or the qt version of skype? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vi was written by Bill Joy Bill Joy wrote lots of good stuff in BSD Our favourite OS owes a lot to BSD using vi pays homage to those magnificent BSD'ers of old I second all the vi accolades. I like the fact that Bill Joy was horribly drunk when he wrote the bulk of vi. vi is a very powerfull editor. I'll probably cause Alan to never help me again but I will admit I mostly use vim when the OS is pretty finished. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
All kde all gnome all xorg for example, before update world.
It seems fine in theory, but every time I've done it in real life I get
into deep dependency trees that take more time to sort out than simply
emerging world first.
The trouble seems to be that it's easy to spot the high level packages
that bring in all their DEPENDS - things like kde,gnome,xorg-x11. It's
harder to spot the dependencies that want to bring everything back in
again. kde is easy - the string 'kde' shows up in most of the names.
gnome is harder as the names are much more randomly chosen.
It is turning into a hefty time sink but I doubt it would take less
time to grind out update world. And in this case I want to get rid of
all x related stuff for good.
I've found (just now) that using revdep-rebuild --pretend and then
going thru the list and emerge -vC parent packages or in some cases
emerge -v them will eventually get you a pretty clean start for build
world.
But in my case it was made a very lot easier by knowing in advance I
wanted no media related gnome, kde, xorg type stuff.
It meant I could run stuff like:
for ii in $(eix -Ic |grep x11-|awk '/^\[/{print $2}' |sort)
do
emerge -avC $ii; done
done
Insert media-app, plugin, kde, gnome in the grep part and walk thru
using `ask' in case something needs to be left alone.
Then following up with several runs at revdep-rebuild as cited above.
That has taken a while.. several hours... but wouldn't such big update
world have taken at least a day?
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Re: [gentoo-user] man pages not displaying right - SOLVED
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael George wrote: | | It was /etc/man-conf. A change in the NROFF definition caused the | problem. Running dispatch-conf didn't prompt me for the config change, | so I ran etc-update this time and found it. | | Hopefully this will be helpful for someone. Hello, yes it's helpful, but I used etc-update and was to fast and can't remember what are the changes. Could you give me an idea of the working NROFF definition? For now, I solved it by changing the MANPAGER variable to less. I had set MANPAGER to vimmanpager. Perhaps I have a additional problem? Thanks in advance. W. Canis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgZ69gACgkQKT9zBKF0twU2owCeIpC+MkeXvQ7CJYzA7zIBHifk 6RsAnAteCGq9NKoeH9+El/OzzzoX90XV =o3kA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] -fomit-frame-pointer switch
Hello, On an amd64, If I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to a system's CFLAGS setting, I can just add it and eventually all of the executables will be recompile (willing to wait) or do I have to rebuild system (all packages) or such to switch? James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Switch of profile messed up eix-test-obsolete
Today I made the mistake of upgrading my profile from
default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop to default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop and
it messed up eix eix-test-obsolete.
Here's a part of the output from eix-test-obsolete:
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Installed packages with a version not in the database (or masked):
[D] app-admin/eselect ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/06/08 - *1.0.2 *1.0.7 ~*1.0.8 ~*1.0.9
*1.0.10 ~*1.0.11 ~*1.0.11-r1 {bash-completion doc vim-syntax}):
Modular -config replacement utility
[D] app-admin/eselect-ctags ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/23/08 - *1.3): Manages ctags
implementations
[D] app-admin/eselect-esd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/06/08 - *20060719): Manages
configuration of ESounD implementation or PulseAudio wrapper
[D] app-admin/eselect-fontconfig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/06/08 - *1.0): An eselect
module to
manage /etc/fonts/conf.d symlinks.
[D] app-admin/eselect-oodict ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/07/08 - *20060621 *20060706
~*20060806 *20061117): Manages configuration of dictionaries for
OpenOffice.Org.
[D] app-admin/eselect-opengl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/06/08 - *1.0.5 ~*1.0.6
~*1.0.6-r1):
Utility to change the OpenGL interface being used
--8
Before the change of profile the output was clean.
Any suggestions?
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Re: [gentoo-user] -fomit-frame-pointer switch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James wrote: | Hello, | | On an amd64, If I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to a system's | CFLAGS setting, I can just add it and eventually all of the | executables will be recompile (willing to wait) | or do I have to rebuild system (all packages) or such to switch? Hello James, you have to rebuild the entire system, if the new CFLAGS settings shall have effect. # emerge --emptytree system emerge --emptytree world That's the recommend procedure, according to the handbook, to do that. But there are in the forums a big thread whether that is necessary or not. Some argue - is not, it's sufficient to rebuild the toolchain and than emerge -e world. Others say one should follow the recommend procedure. I follow the recommend procedure. Hope that helps. W. Canis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgZ9lwACgkQKT9zBKF0twU8hgCgmSyN7hTtp+FWizv/yVZXaTyL 2u8An0QMe2QaJUsxymGNTPo8QuDN+MUy =BHyv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Wireshark won't run except as root
I've emerged wireshark, and made myself a member of both the wireshark group, and the tcpdump group, but still wireshark refuses to capture packets if executed as a non root user. The error message is: Couldn't run dumpcap as a child process: Permission denied. A little research indicated that dumpcap should be installed suid root and It appears that it is, but I still can't execute it as a non-root user: [ 23:16:38 ] Wed Apr 30 /usr/bin $ : ./dumpcap bash: ./dumpcap: Permission denied [ 09:29:50 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ls /usr/bin/dump* 52 -r-sr-s--- 1 root wireshark 50876 Apr 27 15:49 /usr/bin/dumpcap [ 09:29:52 ] Wed Apr 30 /usr/bin $ : su Password: [ 09:29:55 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ./dumpcap File: /tmp/etherJ8STmt Packets: 7 Packets dropped: 0 [ 09:32:15 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : chown root:root ./dumpcap [ 09:32:19 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : chmod g+s ./dumpcap [ 09:32:29 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : chmod u+s ./dumpcap [ 09:32:38 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ls /usr/bin/dump* 52 -r-sr-s--- 1 root root 50876 Apr 27 15:49 /usr/bin/dumpcap [ 09:32:47 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : exit exit [ 09:33:01 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : whoami Cyor [ 09:33:06 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ./dumpcap bash: ./dumpcap: Permission denied [ 09:33:10 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : I'm sure it's probably something simple that I'm unaware of or not seeing for some reason. Can anybody point out what I'm doing wrong. Thanks, Bob Young San Jose, CA. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge virtual/emacs fails
dany2a [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You've got to update portage first, looks like you have an older portage version, that cannot handle lzma. Had the same prob and updating portage was the fix (besides installing lzma-utils). emerge -a1 portage That was it. Thanks very much. Cheers, Roger -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: -fomit-frame-pointer switch
Wolf Canis wolf.canis at googlemail.com writes: James wrote: | Hello, | | On an amd64, If I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to a system's | CFLAGS setting, I can just add it and eventually all of the | executables will be recompile (willing to wait) | or do I have to rebuild system (all packages) or such to switch? Hello James, you have to rebuild the entire system, if the new CFLAGS settings shall have effect. OK, I agree with that. BUT, if I do not then I do not get the benefits of that compiler option, but wont the system still work fine? After a while, over time, everything get's rebuilt anyway; If can wait a few months for everything to slowly be recompiled. I'm not asking if this is wise, recommended or will result immediately with binaries that are a result of using -fomit-frame-pointer. I just want to know if the system will continue to function, albeit slower that if I recompile the system and then world (using the syntax you list below)? # emerge --emptytree system emerge --emptytree world That's the recommend procedure, according to the handbook, to do that. But there are in the forums a big thread whether that is necessary or not. Some argue - is not, it's sufficient to rebuild the toolchain and than emerge -e world. Others say one should follow the recommend procedure. I follow the recommend procedure. I do appreciate your answer, and agree with it from what I've read. But in order to avoid recompiling all of those packages (for now) I can just add it to my CFlags and wait a few months, as another option? Or is there real peril with this approach to slowly converting a system? James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] -fomit-frame-pointer switch
On Thursday 01 May 2008, James wrote: Hello, On an amd64, If I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to a system's CFLAGS setting, I can just add it and eventually all of the executables will be recompile (willing to wait) or do I have to rebuild system (all packages) or such to switch? No need to rebuild the whole system. One-by-one is fine. A lot of packages set it anyway. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Blocking package is not actually installed
I'm trying to install a package that is being blocked by a package that portage claims is not even installed: catherine ~ # emerge -av =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10-r1 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10-r1 395 kB [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) Total: 1 package (1 new, 1 block), Size of downloads: 395 kB !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!at the same time on the same system. For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant): http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked catherine ~ # emerge -pv dev-util/gtk-doc-am These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10-r1 395 kB [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) Total: 1 package (1 new, 1 block), Size of downloads: 395 kB What should I do? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] man pages not displaying right - SOLVED
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 06:12:19PM +0200, Wolf Canis wrote: Michael George wrote: | | It was /etc/man-conf. A change in the NROFF definition caused the | problem. Running dispatch-conf didn't prompt me for the config change, | so I ran etc-update this time and found it. | | Hopefully this will be helpful for someone. Hello, yes it's helpful, but I used etc-update and was to fast and can't remember what are the changes. Could you give me an idea of the working NROFF definition? For now, I solved it by changing the MANPAGER variable to less. I had set MANPAGER to vimmanpager. Perhaps I have a additional problem? I searched for NROFF in /etc/man-conf and found a note saying to add -c if something had a specific version. I tried that and it works now. There may be otehr fixesm but that works for me. Just edit it and look for NROFF, it's in a comment. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] origin of kernel module: scsi_wait_scan.mod ??
Hello, I am compiling a vanilla-sources 2.6.24.4 kernel (2008.0_beta2 minimal install) and no matter what I do to disable scsi support I end up with a scsi module (scsi_wait_scan.mod) after compilation. When looking at the .config file I see CONFIG_SCSI=y CONFIG_SCSI_DMA=y CONFIG_SCSI_WAIT_SCAN=m CONFIG_SCSI_SPI_ATTRS=y All of these should not be set because I did not enable them in menuconfig. Something else is setting those. Would someone know what? I turned off usb support completely in menuconfig. I don't need usb support anyway since this is a virtualbox guest OS install. Thank you for you help, -- Valmor de Almeida -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: -fomit-frame-pointer switch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James wrote: | | But in order to avoid recompiling all of those packages (for now) | I can just add it to my CFlags and wait a few months, as another option? Yes, there shouldn't any problems appear. | | Or is there real peril with this approach to slowly converting a system? I think no. But I'm not that Guru, I'm not sure whether there is package or dependency which if new compiled failed or lead to any instability. If you need that system for something important, I wouldn't recommend to experiment with CFLAGS. I would do that in a time window where I would have a couple of days time. That's what I would do. Because you can never know for sure whether it comes to problems or not. ;-) W. Canis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgaAz0ACgkQKT9zBKF0twXFHACfTBNKv0j9s6Bo3cPmChf72X4x +5sAmwcqUWggUQhC98o1duN0r/ylXsBH =93sI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Switch of profile messed up eix-test-obsolete
On Thu, 1 May 2008 18:52:20 +0200, Dan Johansson wrote: Today I made the mistake of upgrading my profile from default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop to default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop and it messed up eix eix-test-obsolete. Before the change of profile the output was clean. Any suggestions? 1) Update eix to 0.12.4 2) Read the mailing list, this one was asked and answered a day or two ago :( -- Neil Bothwick If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: -fomit-frame-pointer switch
Justin justin at j-schmitz.net writes: As the wiki says I cannot seem to find this reference in any of the wikis I use for Gentoo, perhaps a url so I can read more? -fomit-frame-pointer tells gcc to omit frame pointers, freeing up an additional register on the CPU. This is mainly useful on x86 as most other arches, like AMD64, have it on by default at -O2 or greater you do not recompile anything, if you had -O2 or greater before. WONDERFUL answer. Thanks to all that responded. James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: -fomit-frame-pointer switch
James schrieb: Justin justin at j-schmitz.net writes: As the wiki says I cannot seem to find this reference in any of the wikis I use for Gentoo, perhaps a url so I can read more? http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS#-fomit-frame-pointer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Blocking package is not actually installed
on Thursday 05/01/2008 Michael Sullivan([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote I'm trying to install a package that is being blocked by a package that portage claims is not even installed: catherine ~ # emerge -av =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10-r1 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10-r1 395 kB [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) Total: 1 package (1 new, 1 block), Size of downloads: 395 kB !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!at the same time on the same system. For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant): http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked catherine ~ # emerge -pv dev-util/gtk-doc-am These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10-r1 395 kB [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) Total: 1 package (1 new, 1 block), Size of downloads: 395 kB What should I do? What I did was to unmerge dev-util/gtk-doc and that seemed to fix things. You might want to look at a previous thread of a couple of days ago which I started and was quite informative. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
My cleanup routine pretty much involves running vim on /var/lib/portage/world and going down the list. If I see something I definitely don't need, I remove that line. If I see something that I don't remember what it was, in another terminal (just an ALT-TAB away) I run esearch package-name. After I'm done going through the file, I run emerge -a --depclean followed by revdep-rebuild. Call me old school, but that method never takes me more than a few minutes to do. I am also someone in the vim camp. It fires up quickly and is very efficient for moving around files, which is what editing configuration files is all about. Not to mention that I use it for all of my programming as well (except that I'm just now starting to learn SLIME for Lisp, pretty much a necessity). The other thing I do is to run emerge --sync and emerge -uDNav once a week (followed by emerge --depclean and revdep-rebuild). I check the USE flags of the updated/newly-installed packages to make sure they are what I want, using euse -E, euse -D, or editing /etc/portage/package.use appropriately. That's my input, Brandon -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
Brandon Mintern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Call me old school, but that method never takes me more than a few minutes to do. I am also someone in the vim camp. It fires up quickly Unless you are updating a vmappliance built on old (even for 2006) 2006 pkgs to current 2008 pkgs. I know this is a monster thread but making that big a jump is what is being discussed. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] checking for.....
In the middle of doing a major upgrade from very old pkgs to current 2008 and compiling lots and lots of stuff. Seeing that line `checking for WHATEVER' go by 486,211 times so far makes me wonder if there wouldn't be someway to cache all those answers somewhere so whatever test is done for each line could be dispensed with for most of them. Probably would need more than 2-3 compiles to have all but rare ones answered. Some items really check a lot of things. I think it would be a major time saver when discussing huge numbers of compiles. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocking package is not actually installed
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 14:25 -0400, John covici wrote: on Thursday 05/01/2008 Michael Sullivan([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote I'm trying to install a package that is being blocked by a package that portage claims is not even installed: catherine ~ # emerge -av =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10-r1 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10-r1 395 kB [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) Total: 1 package (1 new, 1 block), Size of downloads: 395 kB !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!at the same time on the same system. For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant): http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked catherine ~ # emerge -pv dev-util/gtk-doc-am These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10-r1 395 kB [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) Total: 1 package (1 new, 1 block), Size of downloads: 395 kB What should I do? What I did was to unmerge dev-util/gtk-doc and that seemed to fix things. You might want to look at a previous thread of a couple of days ago which I started and was quite informative. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] I unmerged gtk-doc and ran my command again. Now it wants to install gtk-doc, but it's still blocked: catherine ~ # emerge -av =gtk+-2.12.9-r2 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2 USE=debug doc -emacs 182 kB [ebuild N] dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10-r1 395 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.12.9-r2 [2.12.8] USE=X cups debug doc jpeg tiff -vim-syntax -xinerama 15,652 kB [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) Total: 3 packages (1 upgrade, 2 new, 1 block), Size of downloads: 16,229 kB !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!at the same time on the same system. For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant): http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brandon Mintern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Call me old school, but that method never takes me more than a few minutes to do. I am also someone in the vim camp. It fires up quickly Unless you are updating a vmappliance built on old (even for 2006) 2006 pkgs to current 2008 pkgs. I know this is a monster thread but making that big a jump is what is being discussed. I can certainly understand and sympathize with that. My first internship and first real exposure to Unix involved updating to a new FreeBSD installation from one that had not been updated in several years. I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] compiling a module after the fact
I thought I remembered someway to compile a single module after the fact that didn't involve recompiling everthing... but just now I entered the usr/src/linux directory and edited .config adding the sshfs FUSE module. when I ran `make' I see it grinding thru the whole thing again. Is that normal? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] compiling a module after the fact
yes On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I remembered someway to compile a single module after the fact that didn't involve recompiling everthing... but just now I entered the usr/src/linux directory and edited .config adding the sshfs FUSE module. when I ran `make' I see it grinding thru the whole thing again. Is that normal? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] checking for.....
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the middle of doing a major upgrade from very old pkgs to current 2008 and compiling lots and lots of stuff. Seeing that line `checking for WHATEVER' go by 486,211 times so far makes me wonder if there wouldn't be someway to cache all those answers somewhere so whatever test is done for each line could be dispensed with for most of them. Probably would need more than 2-3 compiles to have all but rare ones answered. Some items really check a lot of things. I think it would be a major time saver when discussing huge numbers of compiles. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I had thought the same thing myself some time ago, and I discovered that there had been work on a FEATURE called confcache. I believe it was abandoned, though, due to major difficulties. This is merely a guess, but I think some of the problems arise in that some of the things that are checked for actually change as a package is installed or updated (e.g. checking gcc version). This means that each package being installed would have to somehow flag confcache and indicate that it has changed, and confcache would have to keep a list of all these cached values and their dependencies. I think there might be potential, however, for something that cached some of the more common system checks such as number of command line arguments. Then again, if many of these configuration items are discovered through a simple system call or by running a quick command, I'm not sure how much faster something like confcache would actually be. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about items on the main menu
2008/5/1 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In gnome-2.20.3, how would I find out what Main Menu-System-Administration-Printing tries to run? And where would errors from attempting to run it be dumped to? When I run it, it fails silently. You can try to find out which desktop file belongs to this entry. They are usually in /usr/share/applications. The exec key shows you which program is executed. You can run it from the command line to see which error happens! Regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:13:27 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote: I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things. Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Just got a new car for my wifeGreat Trade! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Blocking package is not actually installed [SOLVED]
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 22:22 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 01 May 2008 14:12:38 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote: I unmerged gtk-doc and ran my command again. Now it wants to install gtk-doc, but it's still blocked: catherine ~ # emerge -av =gtk+-2.12.9-r2 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2 USE=debug doc -emacs 182 kB [ebuild N] dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10-r1 395 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.12.9-r2 [2.12.8] USE=X cups debug doc jpeg tiff -vim-syntax -xinerama 15,652 kB [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) It looks like you are trying to mix testing and stable packages. On my amd64 setup, gtk+-2.12.9-r2 is ~amd64 but gtk-doc-1.8-r2 is amd64. If that's the case, adding gtk-doc to package.keywords should resolve this. It did. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about items on the main menu
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 15:25 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote: I looked it up and found the file. The Exec line was gnome-cups-manager. Should gnome-cups-manager have some visible GUI, because it doesn't. When I run it at the terminal prompt, it just gives me a blinking cursor until I Cntrl+C it... For me it opens a browser tab to the localhost cups admin page. Is cups running on the computer in question? Rob. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] re-appearance of `waiting for lock' bug?
updating from an old 2006 pkg based install to latest 2008 and have gotten pretty far along... right now emerging udev in an emerge -vuDN system command. The emerge is hung at: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] sys-fs/udev-120 [087-r1] USE=(-selinux) 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 0 kB Verifying ebuild Manifests... Emerging (1 of 1) sys-fs/udev-120 to / waiting for lock on /var/tmp/portage/sys-fs/.udev-120.portage_lockfile And has been there a good while. Looking at the bugs I see it mentioned but says it was fixed quite sometime ago. Any suggestions of how to get past this item and on with updating world? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] re-appearance of `waiting for lock' bug?
On Thursday 01 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: waiting for lock on /var/tmp/portage/sys-fs/.udev-120.portage_lockfile And has been there a good while. Looking at the bugs I see it mentioned but says it was fixed quite sometime ago. Any suggestions of how to get past this item and on with updating world? Ctrl-C to kill the emerge and rm /var/tmp/portage/sys-fs/.udev-120.portage_lockfile then try again -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] checking for.....
On Thursday 01 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the middle of doing a major upgrade from very old pkgs to current 2008 and compiling lots and lots of stuff. Seeing that line `checking for WHATEVER' go by 486,211 times so far makes me wonder if there wouldn't be someway to cache all those answers somewhere so whatever test is done for each line could be dispensed with for most of them. Probably would need more than 2-3 compiles to have all but rare ones answered. Some items really check a lot of things. I think it would be a major time saver when discussing huge numbers of compiles. You are expecting autoconf to actually do something sane when it runs??? Har har. You must be new here. :-) That problem has been discussed about 486,212 times and solved about 0 times. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: re-appearance of `waiting for lock' bug?
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ctrl-C to kill the emerge and rm /var/tmp/portage/sys-fs/.udev-120.portage_lockfile Egad and how many times have done that in other situations... I tried emerge -vC udev followed by emerge -v udev No help Its just udev-120 that does this. Before seeing your post I backed up to udev-119 and went right thru. So must still be something a little off there. However I emerged udev again and deleted the lock file as recommended and 120 went right thru. 120 must be the first version that concerns itself with lock files. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Brandon Mintern wrote: I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things. Hey Neil, Looks like we caught one - a big fish this time :-) :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:13:27 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote: I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things. Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-) Hey, watch it there bonzo, or I'll have to send Dirk Gently's friend Noddy and his lads around for a wee chat :-) :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: checking for.....
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are expecting autoconf to actually do something sane when it runs??? Har har. You must be new here. hehe... no not new... you'd never know it by the questions I ask but I've been running linux since redhat 3 series circa 1995-6 or so. I probably shouldn't admit it though.. It seems like there are getting to be sharper and sharper newish users here. Just a very slow learner... or as some have said... not the sharpest tool in the shed. But thinking it over a bit after the other response I can see where it would be really difficult to cache that output I hadn't really considered that packages may change the answers frequently. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: re-appearance of `waiting for lock' bug?
On Thursday 01 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ctrl-C to kill the emerge and rm /var/tmp/portage/sys-fs/.udev-120.portage_lockfile Egad and how many times have done that in other situations... I tried emerge -vC udev followed by emerge -v udev No help Its just udev-120 that does this. Before seeing your post I backed up to udev-119 and went right thru. So must still be something a little off there. However I emerged udev again and deleted the lock file as recommended and 120 went right thru. 120 must be the first version that concerns itself with lock files. I've seen similar messages a few times on my boxes recently, but each time the emerge got going again after a short while. So I never really bothered finding out exactly what is going on. You mentioned a reported bug earlier, do you have a link that describes it more? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] checking for.....
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 01 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the middle of doing a major upgrade from very old pkgs to current 2008 and compiling lots and lots of stuff. Seeing that line `checking for WHATEVER' go by 486,211 times so far makes me wonder if there wouldn't be someway to cache all those answers somewhere so whatever test is done for each line could be dispensed with for most of them. Probably would need more than 2-3 compiles to have all but rare ones answered. Some items really check a lot of things. I think it would be a major time saver when discussing huge numbers of compiles. You are expecting autoconf to actually do something sane when it runs??? Har har. You must be new here. :-) That problem has been discussed about 486,212 times and solved about 0 times. Fortunately, more packages go over to cmake. Just a matter of time. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:13:27 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote: I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things. Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-) You were very clear. Some time ago, I offered you a Hansa Draught for some help if you ever happened to come to Windhoek. That offer is void now, and I'll drink the pint myself. Traitor! Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] New eth.0/openrc setup - I'm confused
After updating to 2008 pkgset after merging openrc I lost the net.eth0 link.. I see other have seen this and even at least 2 bug reports but the cure is said to be recreating by hand. I find that not to work... DETAILS: First, net.lo is itself a symlink to /lib/rc/sh/net.sh, so I'm creating a symlink to a symlink... ok so far. once its created (net.eth0 as symlink to net.lo) the usual commands for stopping or checking status etc don't work. /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start/stop/status gives me results that appear not to have anything to do with reality. # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart * ERROR: net.eth0 has been stopped by something else # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start * WARNING: net.eth0 has already been started meantime netstat indicates no changes at all.. eth0 is up throughout. So what is the correct procedure here? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New eth.0/openrc setup - I'm confused
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 16:47 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After updating to 2008 pkgset after merging openrc I lost the net.eth0 link.. I see other have seen this and even at least 2 bug reports but the cure is said to be recreating by hand. I find that not to work... DETAILS: First, net.lo is itself a symlink to /lib/rc/sh/net.sh, so I'm creating a symlink to a symlink... ok so far. once its created (net.eth0 as symlink to net.lo) the usual commands for stopping or checking status etc don't work. /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start/stop/status gives me results that appear not to have anything to do with reality. # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart * ERROR: net.eth0 has been stopped by something else # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start * WARNING: net.eth0 has already been started meantime netstat indicates no changes at all.. eth0 is up throughout. So what is the correct procedure here? Did you try # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 zap ? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: re-appearance of `waiting for lock' bug?
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 23:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I've seen similar messages a few times on my boxes recently, but each time the emerge got going again after a short while. So I never really bothered finding out exactly what is going on. I believe portage recently switched to using parallel-fetch by default, which causes a similar message to appear if the build thread catches up with the fetch thread. In this situation, it is, essentially, harmless, and is just a message to say I haven't died. Rob. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008
On Thu, 1 May 2008 22:41:23 +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote: Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-) You were very clear. Some time ago, I offered you a Hansa Draught for some help if you ever happened to come to Windhoek. That offer is void now, and I'll drink the pint myself. Traitor! Oh, vi! I thought Alan was on about something else. I LOVE vi!!! -- Neil Bothwick EASY TO INSTALL = Difficult to install, but instruction manual has pictures. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] man pages not displaying right - SOLVED
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 06:12:19PM +0200, Wolf Canis wrote: Michael George wrote: | | It was /etc/man-conf. A change in the NROFF definition caused the | problem. Running dispatch-conf didn't prompt me for the config change, | so I ran etc-update this time and found it. | | Hopefully this will be helpful for someone. Hello, yes it's helpful, but I used etc-update and was to fast and can't remember what are the changes. Could you give me an idea of the working NROFF definition? For now, I solved it by changing the MANPAGER variable to less. I had set MANPAGER to vimmanpager. Perhaps I have a additional problem? Here is the NROFF definition which did *not* work: NROFF/usr/bin/nroff -mandoc This is my NROFF setting now, and from before I had the problem, which *does* work: NROFF/usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc I hope this can be helpful to many of you out there. -- -M There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who can count in binary and those who cannot. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] SMB protocol for Krusader
Hello Gentoo users, I'm trying to enable smb:// support for Krusader. Searching the net I got a solution: I have to emerge kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves. (on Ubuntu I had to install a very similarly named package to do this). But unfortunately doing this isnt a good idea, because: lapitopi gyuszk # emerge -pv kdebase-kioslaves These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kdialog-3.5.8 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 23,633 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.8 USE=-arts -debug -hal -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -ldap -openexr -samba -xinerama 20 kB [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.8, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.8) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdialog-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6) Total: 2 packages (2 new, 3 blocks), Size of downloads: 23,653 kB Maybe kdebase has a use flag for kioslaves...? lapitopi gyuszk # emerge -pv kdebase These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6 USE=cups pam xscreensaver -arts -branding -debug -hal -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -opengl -samba -xcomposite -xinerama 23,671 kB No. :( Information: I'm running Gentoo amd64, everything up-to-date. Installed monolythic kde (emerge kde). Can anybody help? Thanks a lot.
Re: [gentoo-user] SMB protocol for Krusader
Just the samba USE flag when emerging kde. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SMB protocol for Krusader
Sorry, I hit the send button by accident. I think all you have to do is to enable the samba USE flag when emerging kde. You can append the line: kde-base/kdebase samba to /etc/portage/package.use to accomplish that -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SMB protocol for Krusader
On Freitag, 2. Mai 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello Gentoo users, I'm trying to enable smb:// support for Krusader. Searching the net I got a solution: I have to emerge kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves. (on Ubuntu I had to install a very similarly named package to do this). But unfortunately doing this isnt a good idea, because: lapitopi gyuszk # emerge -pv kdebase-kioslaves These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kdialog-3.5.8 USE=-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 23,633 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.8 USE=-arts -debug -hal -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -ldap -openexr -samba -xinerama 20 kB [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.8, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.8) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdialog-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6) Total: 2 packages (2 new, 3 blocks), Size of downloads: 23,653 kB Maybe kdebase has a use flag for kioslaves...? lapitopi gyuszk # emerge -pv kdebase These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.8-r6 USE=cups pam xscreensaver -arts -branding -debug -hal -ieee1394 -java -joystick -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -opengl -samba -xcomposite -xinerama 23,671 kB No. :( Information: I'm running Gentoo amd64, everything up-to-date. Installed monolythic kde (emerge kde). Can anybody help? Thanks a lot. there is no flag, because kio-slaves are an integral part of KDE and always installed with kdebase. So you don't need to install anything. BUT you need to re-emerge kdebase with the samba useflag. lmsensors, opengl, hal, java, kdehiddenvisibility, xcomposity would be good ideas too. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: New eth.0/openrc setup - I'm confused
Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what is the correct procedure here? Did you try # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 zap It has no effect whatsoever: root # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 zap * Manually resetting net.eth0 to stopped state (In fact it is not stopped I can ping www.gentoo) root # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start * ERROR: net.eth0 has been started by something else root # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop * WARNING: net.eth0 is already stopped (In fact it is not stopped... ping works) All the while netstat and ifconfig report eth0 to be up and in fact a viable connection is in place throughout. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Wireshark won't run except as root (Solved but Why is this)
-Original Message- From: Bob Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:03 AM To: Gentoo-user List Subject: [gentoo-user] Wireshark won't run except as root I've emerged wireshark, and made myself a member of both the wireshark group, and the tcpdump group, but still wireshark refuses to capture packets if executed as a non root user. The error message is: Couldn't run dumpcap as a child process: Permission denied. A little research indicated that dumpcap should be installed suid root and It appears that it is, but I still can't execute it as a non-root user: I'm sure it's probably something simple that I'm unaware of or not seeing for some reason. Can anybody point out what I'm doing wrong. Thanks, Bob Young San Jose, CA. Well a little more experimentation proved that world has to have execute permission: [ 18:16:56 ] Thu May 01 /home/Cyor $ : su Password: [ 18:25:38 ] Thu May 01 /home/Cyor $ : cd /usr/bin/ [ 18:28:52 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ls /usr/bin/dumpcap 52 -rwxr-x--- 1 root wireshark 50876 Apr 27 15:49 /usr/bin/dumpcap [ 18:28:58 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : chmod u+s ./dumpcap [ 18:29:26 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ls /usr/bin/dumpcap 52 -rwsr-x--- 1 root wireshark 50876 Apr 27 15:49 /usr/bin/dumpcap [ 18:29:30 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : exit exit [ 18:29:44 ] Thu May 01 /home/Cyor $ : whoami Cyor [ 18:30:11 ] Thu May 01 /home/Cyor $ : cd /usr/bin/ [ 18:30:21 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ./dumpcap bash: ./dumpcap: Permission denied [ 18:30:24 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : su Password: [ 18:31:18 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : whoami root [ 18:32:03 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ls /usr/bin/dumpcap 52 -rwsr-x--- 1 root wireshark 50876 Apr 27 15:49 /usr/bin/dumpcap [ 18:32:14 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : chmod o+x ./dumpcap [ 18:32:29 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ls /usr/bin/dumpcap 52 -rwsr-x--x 1 root wireshark 50876 Apr 27 15:49 /usr/bin/dumpcap [ 18:32:34 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : exit exit [ 18:32:41 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : whoami Cyor [ 18:32:49 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ./dumpcap File: /tmp/ether1wMVki ^CPackets dropped: 0 My question is: If the wireshark GROUP has execute permission to dumpcap, and user Cyor is a member of the wireshark group, why can't Cyor execute dumpcap without the execute bit for everyone being set? Doesn't this mean that the entire world world (member of wireshark group or not) can execute an an SUID root program? If that's the case what's the purpose of having the wireshark group? Note: Cyor is a member of wireshark group: [ 18:32:55 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : cat /etc/group root::0:root . . .[snip] wheel::10:root,BYoung,Cyor wireshark:x:446:BYoung,Cyor ntp:x:123: tcpdump:x:447:Byoung,Cyor +:: Thanks, Bob Young San Jose, CA -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Updated ebuild; bypassing manifest check
Following the instructions here, I tried to create an updated ebuild for mozilla-thunderbird-bin. The newest version is 2.0.0.14; current ebuild is 2.0.0.12. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_an_Updated_Ebuild Everything worked fine until I tried to update the hashes in the manifest, ebuild /usr/local/portage/mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-bin/mozilla-thunderbird-bin-2.0.0.14.ebuild digest and it failed, being unable to download the '.14 file from Gentoo.something. Well, this is to be expected, as Gentoo.something doesn't have the '.14 file yet; and the ebuild downloads the source code from the author's site, not from gentoo.something. So I ended up running the emerge 3 times, manually tweaking the Manifest's hashes with the newer hashes, 'til everything matched, and tbird 2.0.0.14 emerged normally. So the question becomes, is there a way to bypass the manifest check? Or alternatively, build the manifest with the correct hashes based upon the source code's author's code. TIA -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Hooray for Gentoo CD developers
I must say once again I'm deeply impressed and thankful for the folks at Gentoo. My Windows Vista laptop has taken a dump. I'm reasonably sure the hardware is OK but like everything M$ you pile on driver after driver, virus protection and firewalls, junk after junk after junk, and finally the darn things just die. Mine did today. I've always hated that this machine wasn't dual boot but for numerous reasons it's been impossible for the last 10 months to rebuild the whole machine. Now I get a chance. Why do I love the Gentoo devs? Smart folks managed to give me a 2007.0 CD that reads NTFS file systems allowing me to get off the little bit of stuff that wasn't backed up. Looks like absolutely nothing will be lost. Wonderful, wonderful people! Cheers, thanks and a beer the next time you're in town, Mark P.S. - Sending to this list for the most coverage. I hope someone on that team reads this list. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireshark won't run except as root (Solved but Why is this)
Have you logged out and back in since becoming a member of the wireshark group? A quick way to test without having to log out and back in would be to Ctrl-Alt-F2 (or whatever) over to a virtual terminal and log in there, and then try to run the command. If that works, of course, you just need to log out of your current session (desktop environment, screen session, etc.) and then log back in, and it should work fine. If you are logged into a desktop environment, not even a new X terminal session will have you in the new group yet. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Bob Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:03 AM To: Gentoo-user List Subject: [gentoo-user] Wireshark won't run except as root I've emerged wireshark, and made myself a member of both the wireshark group, and the tcpdump group, but still wireshark refuses to capture packets if executed as a non root user. The error message is: Couldn't run dumpcap as a child process: Permission denied. A little research indicated that dumpcap should be installed suid root and It appears that it is, but I still can't execute it as a non-root user: I'm sure it's probably something simple that I'm unaware of or not seeing for some reason. Can anybody point out what I'm doing wrong. Thanks, Bob Young San Jose, CA. Well a little more experimentation proved that world has to have execute permission: [ 18:16:56 ] Thu May 01 /home/Cyor $ : su Password: [ 18:25:38 ] Thu May 01 /home/Cyor $ : cd /usr/bin/ [ 18:28:52 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ls /usr/bin/dumpcap 52 -rwxr-x--- 1 root wireshark 50876 Apr 27 15:49 /usr/bin/dumpcap [ 18:28:58 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : chmod u+s ./dumpcap [ 18:29:26 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ls /usr/bin/dumpcap 52 -rwsr-x--- 1 root wireshark 50876 Apr 27 15:49 /usr/bin/dumpcap [ 18:29:30 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : exit exit [ 18:29:44 ] Thu May 01 /home/Cyor $ : whoami Cyor [ 18:30:11 ] Thu May 01 /home/Cyor $ : cd /usr/bin/ [ 18:30:21 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ./dumpcap bash: ./dumpcap: Permission denied [ 18:30:24 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : su Password: [ 18:31:18 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : whoami root [ 18:32:03 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ls /usr/bin/dumpcap 52 -rwsr-x--- 1 root wireshark 50876 Apr 27 15:49 /usr/bin/dumpcap [ 18:32:14 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : chmod o+x ./dumpcap [ 18:32:29 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ls /usr/bin/dumpcap 52 -rwsr-x--x 1 root wireshark 50876 Apr 27 15:49 /usr/bin/dumpcap [ 18:32:34 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : exit exit [ 18:32:41 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : whoami Cyor [ 18:32:49 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : ./dumpcap File: /tmp/ether1wMVki ^CPackets dropped: 0 My question is: If the wireshark GROUP has execute permission to dumpcap, and user Cyor is a member of the wireshark group, why can't Cyor execute dumpcap without the execute bit for everyone being set? Doesn't this mean that the entire world world (member of wireshark group or not) can execute an an SUID root program? If that's the case what's the purpose of having the wireshark group? Note: Cyor is a member of wireshark group: [ 18:32:55 ] Thu May 01 /usr/bin $ : cat /etc/group root::0:root . . .[snip] wheel::10:root,BYoung,Cyor wireshark:x:446:BYoung,Cyor ntp:x:123: tcpdump:x:447:Byoung,Cyor +:: Thanks, Bob Young San Jose, CA -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] compiling a module after the fact
I thought I remembered someway to compile a single module after the fact that didn't involve recompiling everthing... but just now I entered the usr/src/linux directory and edited .config adding the sshfs FUSE module. when I ran `make' I see it grinding thru the whole thing again. Is that normal? Yeah, its normal - I think you just need to run 'make modules', then 'make modules_install' if you're just adding another module. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] New eth.0/openrc setup - I'm confused
# /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart * ERROR: net.eth0 has been stopped by something else # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start * WARNING: net.eth0 has already been started meantime netstat indicates no changes at all.. eth0 is up throughout. Do this; /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop - verify the interface is down, if its not maybe just 'ifconfig eth0 down' it /etc/init.d/net.eth0 zap /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start FWIW, zap forces the status to down even if the service mgmt thingy thinks its up. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] origin of kernel module: scsi_wait_scan.mod ??
Am Donnerstag, 1. Mai 2008 schrieb ext de Almeida, Valmor F.: Hello, I am compiling a vanilla-sources 2.6.24.4 kernel (2008.0_beta2 minimal install) and no matter what I do to disable scsi support I end up with a scsi module (scsi_wait_scan.mod) after compilation. When looking at the .config file I see CONFIG_SCSI=y CONFIG_SCSI_DMA=y CONFIG_SCSI_WAIT_SCAN=m CONFIG_SCSI_SPI_ATTRS=y All of these should not be set because I did not enable them in menuconfig. Something else is setting those. Would someone know what? I turned off usb support completely in menuconfig. I don't need usb support anyway since this is a virtualbox guest OS install. The above are SCSI options, not USB. You should post your complete .config, otherwise we end up guessing. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
