Re: [gentoo-user] Getting python-2.3 back

2008-09-26 Thread Justin

Kirk Lowery schrieb:

I'm maintaining some legacy software (don't ask ;-) that won't work on
python-2.4, but needs 2.3.

During upgrading today, I inadvertently allowed 2.3 to be deleted. I
looked in portage, but it is apparently gone.

Any suggestions on finding the old ebuild so that I can slot it in?

TIA!

Kirk

  

Try google, try an old portage-snapshot.



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[gentoo-user] Absolutely no sound whatsoever after latest emerge update

2008-09-26 Thread Walter Dnes
  Like the subject line says... all quiet on the Gentoo sound front,
which is bad when I want music.  Here's what mplayer says (note the last
4 lines)...

[d530][waltdnes][~] mplayer /home/misc/movies/flv/dancing_monkeys.flv
MPlayer dev-SVN-r26753-4.1.2 (C) 2000-2008 MPlayer Team
CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU2140  @ 1.60GHz (Family: 6, Model: 15, 
Stepping: 2)
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 SSE SSE2

Playing /home/misc/movies/flv/dancing_monkeys.flv.
Cache fill:  3.96% (1328800 bytes)
libavformat file format detected.
[lavf] Video stream found, -vid 0
[lavf] Audio stream found, -aid 1
VIDEO:  [FLV1]  320x240  0bpp  29.970 fps0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
==
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffflv] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Flash video)
==
==
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
AUDIO: 22050 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 8.0 kbit/1.13% (ratio: 1000-88200)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==
[AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[AO_ALSA] Playback open error: Device or resource busy
DVB card number must be between 1 and 4
AO: [null] 22050Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)



  mpg123 doesn't work

[d530][waltdnes][~] mpg123 
/home/misc/music/pop_standards/Tennessee_Waltz_-_Patti_Page.mp3
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[alsa.c:146] error: cannot open device default
[audio.c:517] error: failed to open audio device
[mpg123.c:709] error: Failed to initialize output, goodbye.



  neither does mpg321

[d530][waltdnes][~] mpg321 
/home/misc/music/pop_standards/Tennessee_Waltz_-_Patti_Page.mp3
No default libao driver available.



  my make.conf contains the following lines of interest

USE=-* X a52 aac bzip2 dga doc dri exif ffmpeg flac gif jpeg mmx mng mp3 mpeg 
nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ogg opengl png posix sse sse2 theora threads 
tiff truetype vim-syntax vorbis win32codecs wmf xcomposite xpm xv xvid zlib
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file 
hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route 
share shm softvol


  and uname says...

[d530][waltdnes][~] uname -a
Linux d530 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 #1 SMP Wed Aug 13 02:42:40 EDT 2008 i686
Genuine Intel(R) CPU 2140 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux


  Any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux

2008-09-26 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Andrey Vul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26.09.08 04:45]:
 On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files
  (i.e. Icon\r).
 
  This claim is of course wrong.
 I beg to differ.
 Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show
 Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead.
   ^
Are completely sure that this is a question mark?

 This is enough for me to lose trust in UDF for hybrid CD/DVDs :(

 1993-1997 Eric Youngdale (C) 1997-2008 Jörg Schilling
  ^^
  Because this indicates some 
problems with your locale and question marks are often used if a 
charakter can't be displayed correctly.

Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting python-2.3 back

2008-09-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:59:35 -0400, Kirk Lowery wrote:

 During upgrading today, I inadvertently allowed 2.3 to be deleted. I
 looked in portage, but it is apparently gone.

Nothing is ever truly gone from portage

http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-lang/python/?hideattic=0

goes back as far as python-1/5/2


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[gentoo-user] unofficial ebuilds - how to find

2008-09-26 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

is there some repository or similar thing to find unofficial ebuilds.
Currently I'm looking for an ebuild for gcc svn version or a recent
gcc-4.4.0 snapshot.

Many thanks for a hint,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] unofficial ebuilds - how to find

2008-09-26 Thread Justin

Helmut Jarausch schrieb:

Hi,

is there some repository or similar thing to find unofficial ebuilds.
Currently I'm looking for an ebuild for gcc svn version or a recent
gcc-4.4.0 snapshot.

Many thanks for a hint,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

  

Or simple:

update-eix-remote update  eix -e gcc



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Re: [gentoo-user] unofficial ebuilds - how to find

2008-09-26 Thread David Sveningsson
Daniel Pielmeier skrev:
 2008/9/26 Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 is there some repository or similar thing to find unofficial ebuilds.
 Currently I'm looking for an ebuild for gcc svn version or a recent
 gcc-4.4.0 snapshot.
 
 google gcc svn ebuild - http://gentoo-overlays.zugaina.org/ -
 http://overlays.gentoo.org/dev/dirtyepic :-)
 
 

Also take a look at layman which has an overlay called toolchain which
includes gcc-4.4 ebuilds but also many other related ebuilds you might
be interested in.

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Re: [gentoo-user] unofficial ebuilds - how to find

2008-09-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:36:11 +0200 (CEST), Helmut Jarausch wrote:

 is there some repository or similar thing to find unofficial ebuilds.

There are various overlays, install layman and run layman -L to see them
all. You can also find ebuilds on Bugzilla.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Tool for monitoring what's using the hard drive

2008-09-26 Thread Johann Schmitz

Try sys-process/iotop:
   Iotop has a top-like UI used to show which process is using the I/O.
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http://www.j-schmitz.net




Re: [gentoo-user] Tool for monitoring what's using the hard drive

2008-09-26 Thread zhen

Michael Sullivan пишет:

Is there a tool similar to `top` that will tell me what's using my hard
drive?  My hard drive clicks a lot when I don't think it should, and I'd
really like to know what program is using it.  Sometimes it's so bad
that I have to manually power down the machine and restart it...


  
At first look at your swap consumption with help of utility 'free'. May 
be you have not enough memory...


best regards,
Zhen



Re: [gentoo-user] Tool for monitoring what's using the hard drive

2008-09-26 Thread Justin

Michael Sullivan schrieb:

Is there a tool similar to `top` that will tell me what's using my hard
drive?  My hard drive clicks a lot when I don't think it should, and I'd
really like to know what program is using it.  Sometimes it's so bad
that I have to manually power down the machine and restart it...


  

sys-process/iotop

or

sys-process/latencytop, but I would suggestion the first, because it its 
more your needs.




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[gentoo-user] Tool for monitoring what's using the hard drive

2008-09-26 Thread Michael Sullivan
Is there a tool similar to `top` that will tell me what's using my hard
drive?  My hard drive clicks a lot when I don't think it should, and I'd
really like to know what program is using it.  Sometimes it's so bad
that I have to manually power down the machine and restart it...




[gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

2008-09-26 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install 
Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but 
the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup 
connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal 
net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are 
no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird 
and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps 
set for beginning, + booting to level 5).

Suggestions?

P.S. You see, there is a little sense to address this question to, say, suse 
or ubuntu or other candidate's community :-) - so, excuse please for OT.


Andrew



Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux

2008-09-26 Thread Andrey Vul
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Sebastian Günther
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Andrey Vul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26.09.08 04:45]:
 On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files
  (i.e. Icon\r).
 
  This claim is of course wrong.
 I beg to differ.
 Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show
 Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead.
   ^
 Are completely sure that this is a question mark?
ls converts control characters into question  marks unless -b is specified.

-- 
Andrey Vul



Re: [gentoo-user] Absolutely no sound whatsoever after latest emerge update

2008-09-26 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 02:14:48AM -0400, Penguin Lover Walter Dnes squawked:
 [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
 [AO_ALSA] Playback open error: Device or resource busy
 DVB card number must be between 1 and 4
 AO: [null] 22050Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)

This points to an issue with your alsa configuration/installation.

   mpg123 doesn't work
 
 [d530][waltdnes][~] mpg123 
 /home/misc/music/pop_standards/Tennessee_Waltz_-_Patti_Page.mp3
 ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
 [alsa.c:146] error: cannot open device default
 [audio.c:517] error: failed to open audio device
 [mpg123.c:709] error: Failed to initialize output, goodbye.

Same error as above, a problem with alsa. 

   neither does mpg321
 
 [d530][waltdnes][~] mpg321 
 /home/misc/music/pop_standards/Tennessee_Waltz_-_Patti_Page.mp3
 No default libao driver available.

Not quite sure what the error is, perhaps you need to run mpg321
verbosely. 
   my make.conf contains the following lines of interest
 
 USE=-* X a52 aac bzip2 dga doc dri exif ffmpeg flac gif jpeg mmx mng mp3 
 mpeg nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ogg opengl png posix sse sse2 theora 
 threads tiff truetype vim-syntax vorbis win32codecs wmf xcomposite xpm xv 
 xvid zlib
 ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file 
 hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate 
 route share shm softvol

So it seems you have all the plugins for ALSA enabled. 

 
   and uname says...
 
 [d530][waltdnes][~] uname -a
 Linux d530 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 #1 SMP Wed Aug 13 02:42:40 EDT 2008 i686
 Genuine Intel(R) CPU 2140 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
 

Just shooting randomly in the dark here:
  * Did you update alsa recently? Do you have old alsa pcm
configurations files from before? Maybe those files are screwing
things up.
  * Kernel module for your sound card?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

2008-09-26 Thread Erik Hahn
I think Suse would be suitable. AFAIK they have a updates-only policy
(you might even be able to choose only to use security updates but I'm
not sure - I used it only a short time) and use delta packages.

-Erik

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

2008-09-26 Thread Philip Webb
080926 Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
 I want to install Linux to my friend's PC.
 I can download installation CD iso (or two), but the main problem is
 that PC during next few months will have dialup connection (33600) only.

Mandriva is what I used before Gentoo (2000-3)
 it seems to remain the best all-purpose binary distro.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

2008-09-26 Thread Anthony Metcalf
Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
 No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install 
 Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but 
 the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup 
 connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal 
 net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are 
 no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird 
 and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps 
 set for beginning, + booting to level 5).

 Suggestions?

 P.S. You see, there is a little sense to address this question to, say, suse 
 or ubuntu or other candidate's community :-) - so, excuse please for OT.


 Andrew

   
Gentoo is only net-hungry on the install and on updates.If you can
do the install before he goes net-free, then your fine, glsa-check
should cover you for the updates

I would assume that in most cases source tarballs will be smaller than
binaries to download too :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux

2008-09-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Sebastian Günther
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * Andrey Vul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26.09.08 04:45]:
  On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files
   (i.e. Icon\r).
  
   This claim is of course wrong.
  I beg to differ.
  Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show
  Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead.
^
  Are completely sure that this is a question mark?
 ls converts control characters into question  marks unless -b is specified.

ls does not mark \r this way, gls may do.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Tool for monitoring what's using the hard drive

2008-09-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a tool similar to `top` that will tell me what's using my hard
 drive?  My hard drive clicks a lot when I don't think it should, and I'd
 really like to know what program is using it.  Sometimes it's so bad
 that I have to manually power down the machine and restart it...

In addition to the suggestions from the others, 'lsof' will show you
which files are open by what programs at any given time.



Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux

2008-09-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files
  (i.e. Icon\r).
 
  This claim is of course wrong.
 I beg to differ.
 Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show
 Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead.
 This is enough for me to lose trust in UDF for hybrid CD/DVDs :(

 mkisofs command: mkisofs -o fin2k9.iso -udf -iso-level 4 -V Finale
 2009 /mnt/iso0
 /mnt/iso0 is an hfs+ mountpoint from fin2k9.dmg
 mkisofs version: mkisofs 2.01.01a42 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C)
 1993-1997 Eric Youngdale (C) 1997-2008 JÃ?rg Schilling

Use cdrtools-2.01.01a50

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/

The current version no longer enforces silly Microsoft rules on UDF in case
that the image does not contain Joliet too.

Note that in order to get Apple extensions, you of course need to specify the 
related options to mkisofs.



Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Tool for monitoring what's using the hard drive

2008-09-26 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a tool similar to `top` that will tell me what's using my hard
 drive?  My hard drive clicks a lot when I don't think it should, and I'd
 really like to know what program is using it.  Sometimes it's so bad
 that I have to manually power down the machine and restart it...

# emerge app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools
# lm-profiler

Liviu



Re: [gentoo-user] webdav + foxmarks

2008-09-26 Thread James
Any other thoughts? :)

-j

2008/9/24 James [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Rafal,

 The Allow from all statement is already in the webdav directive. :)

 Other thoughts?

 -j

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:20 AM, ert256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [ 24.09.2008 15:58 ], James :
 All,

 I am trying to set up Foxmarks to use my Apache webdav implementation
 to store my Firefox bookmarks. Unfortunately when Foxmarks tries to
 upload the appropriate files to the webserver it fails and I then see
 the following message in my Apache error_log:

 [Tue Sep 23 21:38:23 2008] [error] [client 10.2.6.2] client denied by
 server configuration: /var/webdav

 My Apache webdav configuration is shown below:


 IfModule mod_dav.c

 Alias /dav /var/webdav
 DavMinTimeout 600
 Directory /dav
 Options None
 Dav On

 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all

 Limit GET PUT POST DELETE PROPFIND PROPPATCH MKCOL
 COPY MOVE LOCK UNLOCK
 AuthType Basic
 AuthName WebDav Restricted Repository
 AuthUserFile /var/webdav/.davpasswd
 Require valid-user
 /Limit
 /Directory

 /IfModule
 Maybe You need
 directory /var/webdav
Allow from all
 /directory
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Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux

2008-09-26 Thread Andrey Vul
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Sebastian Günther
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * Andrey Vul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26.09.08 04:45]:
  On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files
   (i.e. Icon\r).
  
   This claim is of course wrong.
  I beg to differ.
  Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show
  Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead.
^
  Are completely sure that this is a question mark?
 ls converts control characters into question  marks unless -b is specified.

 ls does not mark \r this way, gls may do.
Still, ls -Ab on the dmg file does not match ls -Ab on the remastered ISO.
I.e.:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -b /mnt/iso0/InstallFinale.app/
Contents  Icon\r
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -b /mnt/iso1/InstallFinale.app/
Contents  Icon_
, where /mnt/iso1 is the folowing: mkisofs -o fin2k9.iso -udf
-iso-level 4 -V Finale 2009 /mnt/iso0  sudo mount fin2k9.iso
/mnt/iso1 -o loop

Unless there's a mkisofs option that does not convert low ASCII to
_, I'm stuck to using HFS+ (since I have paths  31 characters).



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[gentoo-user] Re: Tool for monitoring what's using the hard drive

2008-09-26 Thread James
Michael Sullivan michael at espersunited.com writes:


 Is there a tool similar to `top` that will tell me what's using my hard
 drive?  My hard drive clicks a lot when I don't think it should, and I'd
 really like to know what program is using it.  Sometimes it's so bad
 that I have to manually power down the machine and restart it...


Using a variety of tools will help you discover the offending processes.
Here are my suggestions, all in portage

hddtemp, to see if the drive is overheating.
pstree   to see a simple graphical representation of your processes
hdparm   to see check your hard drive (ide) settings

You have many good suggestions from others. Keep looking until you
find what is curious and then post back, if you cannot find a solution.


hth,
James




[gentoo-user] Re: CF and Gentoo

2008-09-26 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes:


 Bear in mind the limited write lifetime of flash memory. Don't put /var
 or /tmp on such a card if you can avoid it.

Well, I'm not sure any other alternatives are attractive? Unless
I find a way to mount those partitions off of a usb stick, or
some other idea?

Since they are not frequently updated and have minimal installed software
(iptables on firewalls and DNS on DNS servers) accompanied by the
fact that most devices have internal wear leveling; it should take
many years to reach the write cycle limits?


 http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10448

very cool! exactly what I could not find.



  Issue 4. Cloning or Duplicating.
  As many of you know, installations can be quite time consuming,
  and challenging on old PCs. So what I intend to do is take
  and currently running machine and stream the contents to
  another machine with a CF burner or pull the CF card from
  a machine that is in good shape but shutdown and duplicate it.
 
 Why not copy the contents of a card to a hard disk somewhere? That way
 you don't have to disturb a running machine to make a copy.

  DD, cpio, scp (example syntax) in a step by step)?

 You could dd the card to a file and use the same file every time you need
 a new card.

Um I do not mean to be a pain, but could you provide a little bit
of pseudo-syntax? Assume I have shutdown a 4 GB CF firewall card
and moved it to a reader/writer on another machine. First I need
to format the raw (new) 4GB CF card from a reader.

/media/sdb1 shows up, but when I run 'fdisk /media/sdb1' I get:

last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40755
You will not be able to write the partition table.


In the past I have formated the CF cards on the new machine being built,
but I need help figuring out how to do this, from a CF reader/writer
on another machine (thus avoiding a traditional install) ?


James






Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux

2008-09-26 Thread Andrey Vul
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Joerg Schilling
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Sebastian Günther
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * Andrey Vul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26.09.08 04:45]:
  On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files
   (i.e. Icon\r).
  
   This claim is of course wrong.
  I beg to differ.
  Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show
  Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead.
^
  Are completely sure that this is a question mark?
 ls converts control characters into question  marks unless -b is specified.

 ls does not mark \r this way, gls may do.
 Still, ls -Ab on the dmg file does not match ls -Ab on the remastered ISO.
Ignore what I said.
However, I raise a new question: is it
a) -a50 vs. -a42
b) -no-hfs
that allows control chars / Apple extensions to be used in UDF?
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Re: [gentoo-user] webdav + foxmarks

2008-09-26 Thread Mick
On Friday 26 September 2008, James wrote:
 Any other thoughts? :)

  On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:20 AM, ert256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [ 24.09.2008 15:58 ], James :
[snip...]
  My Apache webdav configuration is shown below:
 
 
  IfModule mod_dav.c
 
  Alias /dav /var/webdav
  DavMinTimeout 600
  Directory /dav
  Options None
  Dav On
 
  AllowOverride None
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all

As long as Foxmarks are not using iCal format, change the AllowOverride above 
from None to All and try again.

HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] webdav + foxmarks

2008-09-26 Thread Xav'

James a écrit :

Rafal,

The Allow from all statement is already in the webdav directive. :)


Yes maybe you have to listen to Rafal... Your directory statement is 
related to de /dav directory, if you want to apply to the Alias /dav, 
you have to write Location /dav... Just try to replace Directory 
/dav with Directory /var/webdav and just look... and apologize :)


HTH.

Xav'


Other thoughts?

-j

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:20 AM, ert256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[ 24.09.2008 15:58 ], James :

All,

I am trying to set up Foxmarks to use my Apache webdav implementation
to store my Firefox bookmarks. Unfortunately when Foxmarks tries to
upload the appropriate files to the webserver it fails and I then see
the following message in my Apache error_log:

[Tue Sep 23 21:38:23 2008] [error] [client 10.2.6.2] client denied by
server configuration: /var/webdav

My Apache webdav configuration is shown below:


IfModule mod_dav.c

Alias /dav /var/webdav
DavMinTimeout 600
Directory /dav
Options None
Dav On

AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all

Limit GET PUT POST DELETE PROPFIND PROPPATCH MKCOL
COPY MOVE LOCK UNLOCK
AuthType Basic
AuthName WebDav Restricted Repository
AuthUserFile /var/webdav/.davpasswd
Require valid-user
/Limit
/Directory

/IfModule

Maybe You need
directory /var/webdav
   Allow from all
/directory
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[gentoo-user] Re: epiphany flash

2008-09-26 Thread james
Erik Hahn erik_hahn at gmx.de writes:


 Whether flash works or not seems to be pretty random. I once could
 improve the issue by reinstalling flash although everything was - 
 actually - exactly the same as before reinstalling.

Yes, I've seen this behavior too.

It's working pretty sporty right now with seamonkey.

hth,
James









[gentoo-user] openoffice-2.4.1 complaining about Java Runtime Environment

2008-09-26 Thread Denis
The Open Office seems to run ok, but at start-up, I get the following message:

javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!

I tried putting JRE in my PATH, just in case, but that didn't seem to
help...  Anyone know a resolution to this?



Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice-2.4.1 complaining about Java Runtime Environment

2008-09-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
Open OpenOffice.org, go to Tools - Options - Java and select an installed JDK.

Presto.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Open Office seems to run ok, but at start-up, I get the following message:

 javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!

 I tried putting JRE in my PATH, just in case, but that didn't seem to
 help...  Anyone know a resolution to this?





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Facultad de Ciencias, UNAM


Re: [gentoo-user] webdav + foxmarks

2008-09-26 Thread James
Then what is the Alias directive for?

This was copied and pasted from the Wiki.

-j

2008/9/26 Xav' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 James a écrit :

 Rafal,

 The Allow from all statement is already in the webdav directive. :)

 Yes maybe you have to listen to Rafal... Your directory statement is related
 to de /dav directory, if you want to apply to the Alias /dav, you have to
 write Location /dav... Just try to replace Directory /dav with
 Directory /var/webdav and just look... and apologize :)

 HTH.

 Xav'

 Other thoughts?

 -j

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:20 AM, ert256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [ 24.09.2008 15:58 ], James :

 All,

 I am trying to set up Foxmarks to use my Apache webdav implementation
 to store my Firefox bookmarks. Unfortunately when Foxmarks tries to
 upload the appropriate files to the webserver it fails and I then see
 the following message in my Apache error_log:

 [Tue Sep 23 21:38:23 2008] [error] [client 10.2.6.2] client denied by
 server configuration: /var/webdav

 My Apache webdav configuration is shown below:


 IfModule mod_dav.c

Alias /dav /var/webdav
DavMinTimeout 600
Directory /dav
Options None
Dav On

AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all

Limit GET PUT POST DELETE PROPFIND PROPPATCH MKCOL
 COPY MOVE LOCK UNLOCK
AuthType Basic
AuthName WebDav Restricted Repository
AuthUserFile /var/webdav/.davpasswd
Require valid-user
/Limit
/Directory

 /IfModule

 Maybe You need
 directory /var/webdav
   Allow from all
 /directory
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

2008-09-26 Thread Steven Lembark



Gentoo is only net-hungry on the install and on updates.If you can
do the install before he goes net-free, then your fine, glsa-check
should cover you for the updates

I would assume that in most cases source tarballs will be smaller than
binaries to download too :)


If you can download the runtime image
+ portage beforehand onto a thumb drive
or DVD's the Gentoo install isn't even
all that net hungry.

You might find that Damn Small Linux is,
well, damn small and doesn't take that
much bandwidth to download.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

2008-09-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 26 September 2008, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
 No, no, no!... I was, is and am going to be on Gentoo. Just want to install
 Linux to my friend's PC. I can download installation CD iso (or two), but
 the main problem is, that PC during next few months will have dialup
 connection (33600) only. As a result, I need to choose Linux with minimal
 net traffic in mind (just security updates will be sufficient). There are
 no any special demands (OOo, images and PDF viewer, Firefox, Thunderbird
 and Krusader (or other two panel file manager) will be a sufficient apps
 set for beginning, + booting to level 5).

 Suggestions?

opensuse or slackware



Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice-2.4.1 complaining about Java Runtime Environment

2008-09-26 Thread David Relson
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:43:09 -0400
Denis wrote:

  Open OpenOffice.org, go to Tools - Options - Java and select an
  installed JDK.
 
 I tried selecting /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.16/jre/bin but it will not take
 it!  Where is JRE installed then?

My machine has it at /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.07/jre/bin

HTH,

David



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CF and Gentoo

2008-09-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:21:06 + (UTC), James wrote:

  Bear in mind the limited write lifetime of flash memory. Don't
  put /var or /tmp on such a card if you can avoid it.
 
 Well, I'm not sure any other alternatives are attractive? Unless
 I find a way to mount those partitions off of a usb stick, or
 some other idea?
 
 Since they are not frequently updated and have minimal installed
 software (iptables on firewalls and DNS on DNS servers) accompanied by
 the fact that most devices have internal wear leveling; it should take
 many years to reach the write cycle limits?

What about /var/log? The various logfiles are written very frequently.
Could you NFS mount this from somewhere else? I wouldn't rely on wear
levelling in a CF card, only on an SSDdrive.

  http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10448
 
 very cool! exactly what I could not find.

I used one of their adaptors to run a MythTV frontend from CF, although
it netboots now. I used a variation on a live CD setup, so the card was
not written to.

  You could dd the card to a file and use the same file every time you
  need a new card.
 
 Um I do not mean to be a pain, but could you provide a little bit
 of pseudo-syntax? Assume I have shutdown a 4 GB CF firewall card
 and moved it to a reader/writer on another machine. First I need
 to format the raw (new) 4GB CF card from a reader.
 
 /media/sdb1 shows up, but when I run 'fdisk /media/sdb1' I get:
 
 last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40755
 You will not be able to write the partition table.

/media/sdb1 is the mount point, not the device node. Use

dd if=/dev/sdb of=CF.img bs=4096

to read the card, switch of and if to write a new one. Of course, all the
cards have to be the same size.

 In the past I have formated the CF cards on the new machine being built,
 but I need help figuring out how to do this, from a CF reader/writer
 on another machine (thus avoiding a traditional install) ?

You don't need to format at all if you dd the whole drive, as that
includes the partition table, MBR and the kitchen sink.


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unicycle. Many wurlitzers are missing from my database. Abandon shop,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Tool for monitoring what's using the hard drive

2008-09-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:16:49 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote:

 Is there a tool similar to `top` that will tell me what's using my hard
 drive?  My hard drive clicks a lot when I don't think it should, and I'd
 really like to know what program is using it.  Sometimes it's so bad
 that I have to manually power down the machine and restart it...

I'd check it with smartmontools.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Tool for monitoring what's using the hard drive

2008-09-26 Thread Christophe LEFEBVRE

Hi,

sys-process/iotop is like top but process are classified by disk activity.

Regards.

Neil Bothwick a écrit :

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:16:49 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote:

  

Is there a tool similar to `top` that will tell me what's using my hard
drive?  My hard drive clicks a lot when I don't think it should, and I'd
really like to know what program is using it.  Sometimes it's so bad
that I have to manually power down the machine and restart it...



I'd check it with smartmontools.


  





Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggest not-net-hungry Linux

2008-09-26 Thread jaeyoung lee
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Steven Lembark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Gentoo is only net-hungry on the install and on updates.If you can
 do the install before he goes net-free, then your fine, glsa-check
 should cover you for the updates

 I would assume that in most cases source tarballs will be smaller than
 binaries to download too :)


 If you can download the runtime image
 + portage beforehand onto a thumb drive
 or DVD's the Gentoo install isn't even
 all that net hungry.

 You might find that Damn Small Linux is,
 well, damn small and doesn't take that
 much bandwidth to download.

 --
 Steven Lembark85-09 90th St.
 Workhorse Computing Woodhaven, NY, 11421
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  +1 888 359 3508



you can use ArchLinux it's also good:)
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