Re: [gentoo-user] @kde-4.2
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 02:09:34 + (UTC), James wrote: 'autounmask kde-4.2' did not work. So autounmask does not understand sets. Either append the set file to package.keywords cat /etc/portage/sets/kde4.3 /etc/portage/package.keywords Or make package.keywordsa directory and simply put a copy of the sets file in there (or a symlink to the sets file). This is the more manageable option. -- Neil Bothwick Don't hate yourself in the morning, sleep until noon. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with xorg-server-1.5.2, hal and synaptics on a Samsung NC10
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielme...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/3/6 Dragos Petre drpet...@gmail.com: Thanks, Daniel! Just tried it - commented out altogether the synaptics section in the 10-x11-input.fdi section but I get exactly the same result. Anybody other ideas? Best Regards, Dragos. Did you also try to replace it with the contents of the other file and how does the Xorg.0.log look now? -- Regards, Daniel I've also tried xorg-server-1.5.3-r2 but the problems are the same. Anybody any other ideas? Thanks, Dragos.
Re: [gentoo-user] @kde-4.2
On Monday 09 Mar 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 02:09:34 + (UTC), James wrote:
'autounmask kde-4.2' did not work.
So autounmask does not understand sets. Either append the set file to
package.keywords
cat /etc/portage/sets/kde4.3 /etc/portage/package.keywords
Or make package.keywordsa directory and simply put a copy of the sets
file in there (or a symlink to the sets file). This is the more
manageable option.
Another approach is:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~* emerge -pv --columns @kde-4.2 | awk '{ print $4 ~* }'
kde4
which worked for me. (You will have to top'n'tail the output a bit.)
HTH
-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] python2.4 directory
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielme...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/3/5 Evgeniy Bushkov z...@dotcomltd.ru: He already told us that he unmerged python. If you have successfully migrated to python 2.5 you should normally be able to remove this directory as this are probably leftovers from the old install where portage can do nothing about. To be save, what are the contents of this directory? Just site-packages with byte compiled python modules? -- Regards, Daniel The only remaining contents was two broken symlinks in the site-packages directory. I proceeded and manually removed the directory. I'm not expecting any problems, was just wondering why portage didn't remove this empty directories for me? Guess the broken symlinks may have played a role. Thanks for the suggestions Regards Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] python2.4 directory
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:56:22 +0200, Dirk Uys wrote: The only remaining contents was two broken symlinks in the site-packages directory. I proceeded and manually removed the directory. I'm not expecting any problems, was just wondering why portage didn't remove this empty directories for me? Guess the broken symlinks may have played a role. Portage won't remove non-empty directories or files it did not create. -- Neil Bothwick Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: @kde-4.2
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: 'autounmask kde-4.2' did not work. So autounmask does not understand sets. Either append the set file to package.keywords Ok, On my next 4.2.x kde install, I'll try this approach with autounmask. cat /etc/portage/sets/kde4.3 /etc/portage/package.keywords Or make package.keywordsa directory and simply put a copy of the sets file in there (or a symlink to the sets file). This is the more manageable option. Interesting approach. I usually like to follow the gentoo recommended practices. I get the feeling that sets via portage 2.2 is very much a work in progress. So which of these approaches is likely to become the de'facto method? Also, I omitted the ~amd64 at the end of all of those manual entries into my package.keywords file. It work without them. So my question is the -amd64 entry on every line of my package.keywords deprecated now with portage 2.2? James
[gentoo-user] Re: @kde-4.2
Robin Atwood robin.atwood at attglobal.net writes:
Another approach is:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~* emerge -pv --columns @kde-4.2 | awk '{ print $4 ~* }'
kde4
which worked for me. (You will have to top'n'tail the output a bit.)
OK,
This is an interesting approach.
So if I use a very restricted subset of kde-4.2 and call it @james-kde-4.2
and filter on that, it should work.
Thanks for the suggestion. I get the feeling we're all hacking our own
install semantics here for kde-4.2. With dozens of workstations to eventually
support, I'm looking for something (error free) in my systematic approach.
Winging it a little bit different each time brings about risk and
inhibits my conservative nature, when doing admin work. It just seems like
every thing I read, there are different wrinkles to the various approaches.
So we now have evdev (xorg.conf going on a diet),
kde-4.x gymnastics
and no installation media for '09.
Very smart folks have recommended using different media
to install (most of which have worked for me) and
things like the kernel/distro function for drivers keeps changing.
Ya just gotta love Gentoo. Just when I was ready to completely
script up my job, I have to relearn how to install and
maintain systems all over again. It's going to be real interesting
to see how the official gentoo docs end up.
So. We have lots of work to do on the handbooks just for the autobuilds.
Should we have a new directory layout as well?
I'll keep all of this in mind.
thx,
James
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless broadband modems - Working?
Thanks Neil, I'd like to get as close as possible to being ready to plug-and-play with one of those modems. Do you remember the names of the kernel modules? I've never used PPP software before. Can you recommend a package? You need usbserial and the Novatel modems use the option module. I use wvdial with this config, which worked with T-Mobile, Vodafone and O2. [Dialer tmob] Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 Baud = 460800 Init2 =AT Init3 = ATFE0V1X1D2C1S0=0 ISDN = 0 Modem Type = Analog Modem Phone = *99***1# Username = username Password = password Thanks Neil. Weird that wvdial is in /usr/portage but doesn't come up at gentoo-portage.com. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] ppp connection problem
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 17:20, Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to help my father install gentoo on a new computer (I am across the ocean). We have a problem with the internet connection. He has an adsl account. He runs pppoe-start, and it says that he is connected. ifconfig shows that ppp0 is up, and gives an ip address. However, I can't ping that address (I get 100% packet loss). He also can't ping any address. We called the ISP, and from their side it seems that he is connected, and everything is fine. I don't know where else to look. The log messages showed in the beginning messages of the form LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests but they seem to no longer appear. As I said, I don't even know where to start looking for the problem. Any help is appreciated. OK, this may me a little off topic. I don't even know where to start when it comes to check your dad's connection. Being far away and not knowing the exact messages, with no access to the machine itself, its almost impossible to debug and resolve the problem. My advice: get a router! Configure it for your dad's connection, the router will assume the PPoE connection, saving you the trouble. It also will act as a firewall and even if your dad's computer fail, any other DHCP enabled device connected to the router will have Internet access. Anyway, my two cent :D -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless broadband modems - Working?
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Neil, I'd like to get as close as possible to being ready to plug-and-play with one of those modems. Do you remember the names of the kernel modules? I've never used PPP software before. Can you recommend a package? You need usbserial and the Novatel modems use the option module. I use wvdial with this config, which worked with T-Mobile, Vodafone and O2. [Dialer tmob] Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 Baud = 460800 Init2 =AT Init3 = ATFE0V1X1D2C1S0=0 ISDN = 0 Modem Type = Analog Modem Phone = *99***1# Username = username Password = password Thanks Neil. Weird that wvdial is in /usr/portage but doesn't come up at gentoo-portage.com. Looking at http://gentoo-portage.com/Browse it seems the entire net-dialup category (and several others) are absent from that site. Maybe he didn't get it all set up properly after the servers were lost.
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync + tar + bz2 ?
Am Samstag, 7. März 2009 17:04:17 schrieb Grant: I'm backing up numerous large files on another machine on my local network. I've only been using rsync, but it occured to me that I might be able to save some time and space if I incorporate tar and bzip2. How will rsync interact with those? If I turn the whole backup into a big tar.bz2, would rsync need to redownload the whole thing if I change one file? If so, maybe I should turn different groups of files into tar.bz2 archives so rsync only needs to redownload an archive if one of its files has changed? Another way, although a bit more work to setup, whould be to use a Network block device. Unlike NFS, the server just exports the block device, everything else (mkfs, encryption) can be done on the client. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: @kde-4.2
James wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I get the feeling we're all hacking our own install semantics here for kde-4.2. I find the -meta packages very helpful. Instead of pulling in all of KDE (with tons of stuff I don't need), I simply emerged those: kde-base/ark kde-base/kate kde-base/kcalc kde-base/kdeartwork-meta kde-base/kdebase-meta kde-base/kdegraphics-meta kde-base/kdeplasma-addons kde-base/kget Emerging the *whole* of KDE is, I think, something no one needs :P Just go with the basic stuff, and then emerge additional applications later. You don't even need to make up your own sets or -metas. Your patience will thank you later when the need arises to rebuild everything (when KDE 4.2.2 arrives, for example).
[gentoo-user] openvz-sources Athlon64/X2 - kernel panic !
Hi, does anyone have openvz-sources kernel working with athlon64/x2 ? I downloaded last stable sources, configured (I did not change a lot from default config), compiled, installed. But whenever I boot, I get kernel panic. Messages are scrolled up very fast, but I captured something with my video-camera: _ *** something not important was before *** CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64k (64 bytes/line) CPU: L2 Cache: 1024K (64 bytes/line) CPU 0/0 - Node 0 CPU: Physical Procesor ID: 0 CPU: Procesor Core ID: 0 Freeing SMP alternatives: 44k freed ACPI: Core revision 20060707 Page beancounter hash is 524288 entries. ..MP-BIOS but: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC Using local APIC timer interrupts. result 12564475 Detected 12.564 MHz APIC timer. Booting procesor 1/2 APIC 0x1 something scrolled very fast, my camera did not capture it R0P: 000ffede8d R08:... R09... R10, R11, R12 similar numbers, I guess registry values R13, R14, R15 ... Call Trace: [80207819] calibrate_delay+0xb1/0x388 [80856f2d] smp_callin+0x95/0xdc [80857a35] start_secondary+0x18/0x453 Code: 89 c0 48 09 d0 48 89 07 31 c0 c3 0f 31 89 c1 f3 90 0f 31 29 console shuts up ... Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task! Stuck ?? Inqiuring remote APIC #1... ... APIC #1 ID: 0100 ... APIC #1 VERSION: 00040010 ... APIC #1 SPIV: 00ff __ *** end, stuck here *** ___ I tried to change a few settings in kernel config and recompile again, but no difference. What could be the reason for this? Anybody has idea? btw, I was affraid of hardware problem, but I tried to install WindowsXP and it works like a charm... Jarry
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync + tar + bz2 ?
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Samstag, 7. März 2009 17:04:17 schrieb Grant: I'm backing up numerous large files on another machine on my local network. I've only been using rsync, but it occured to me that I might be able to save some time and space if I incorporate tar and bzip2. How will rsync interact with those? If I turn the whole backup into a big tar.bz2, would rsync need to redownload the whole thing if I change one file? If so, maybe I should turn different groups of files into tar.bz2 archives so rsync only needs to redownload an archive if one of its files has changed? Another way, although a bit more work to setup, whould be to use a Network block device. Unlike NFS, the server just exports the block device, everything else (mkfs, encryption) can be done on the client. Bye... Dirk rsync will download only if source and destination files are different. From my experiences using rar is faster and save more space than bz2. Hung
[gentoo-user] Re: @kde-4.2
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James wrote:
Neil Bothwick writes:
cat /etc/portage/sets/kde4.3 /etc/portage/package.keywords
Or make package.keywordsa directory and simply put a copy of the sets
file in there (or a symlink to the sets file). This is the more
manageable option.
Interesting approach. I usually like to follow the gentoo recommended
practices. I get the feeling that sets via portage 2.2 is very
much a work in progress. So which of these approaches is likely
to become the de'facto method?
Also, I omitted the ~amd64 at the end of all of those manual
entries into my package.keywords file. It work without them.
So my question is the -amd64 entry on every line of my package.keywords
deprecated now with portage 2.2?
James
If you are using the kde-testing overlay, there are files that you can
symlink under /etc/portage/package.{keywords,unmask}/ to unmask/keyword
particular versions of KDE. Note also that any file in [/etc/portage]
that begins with 'package.' can be more than just a flat file. If it is
a directory, then all the files in that directory will be sorted in
ascending alphabetical order by file name and summed together as if it
were a single file (from portage(5)). To be precise, it can be an
entire directory tree, and still work the same way.
A line in package.keywords without any KEYWORDS implies ~${ARCH}
(again, see portage(5)).
With the exception of sets and FEATURES=preserved-libs, everything in
portage-2.2 is in portage-2.1.6.*, which is now stable just about
everywhere, so this behavior is at least that old (although I believe it
has been around longer).
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[gentoo-user] Broken binary and revdep-rebuild doesn't find it.
rea...@gentoo ~ $ ldd /usr/lib64/NX/bin/* | grep not found libXcomp.so.3 = not found libXcompext.so.3 = not found libXcompshad.so.3 = not found libXcomp.so.3 = not found So today's update of glibc seems to have broken those binaries. However, running revdep-rebuilt doesn't find the breakage: * Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done.
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync + tar + bz2 ?
Hung Dang wrote: Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Samstag, 7. März 2009 17:04:17 schrieb Grant: I'm backing up numerous large files on another machine on my local network. I've only been using rsync, but it occured to me that I might be able to save some time and space if I incorporate tar and bzip2. How will rsync interact with those? If I turn the whole backup into a big tar.bz2, would rsync need to redownload the whole thing if I change one file? If so, maybe I should turn different groups of files into tar.bz2 archives so rsync only needs to redownload an archive if one of its files has changed? Another way, although a bit more work to setup, whould be to use a Network block device. Unlike NFS, the server just exports the block device, everything else (mkfs, encryption) can be done on the client. Bye... Dirk rsync will download only if source and destination files are different. From my experiences using rar is faster and save more space than bz2. Hung But rar is a proprietary archival format, I'd much sooner go with a tar, compressed with bzip2 or lzma. If the biggest concern is just getting it done quickly, gzip it, but for the love of all things free, not rar, I say!
[gentoo-user] Re: ppp connection problem
* Daniel da Veiga danieldave...@gmail.com [09/03/09 12:33]: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 17:20, Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to help my father install gentoo on a new computer (I am across the ocean). We have a problem with the internet connection. He has an adsl account. He runs pppoe-start, and it says that he is connected. ifconfig shows that ppp0 is up, and gives an ip address. However, I can't ping that address (I get 100% packet loss). He also can't ping any address. We called the ISP, and from their side it seems that he is connected, and everything is fine. I don't know where else to look. The log messages showed in the beginning messages of the form LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests but they seem to no longer appear. As I said, I don't even know where to start looking for the problem. Any help is appreciated. OK, this may me a little off topic. I don't even know where to start when it comes to check your dad's connection. Being far away and not knowing the exact messages, with no access to the machine itself, its almost impossible to debug and resolve the problem. My advice: get a router! Configure it for your dad's connection, the router will assume the PPoE connection, saving you the trouble. It also will act as a firewall and even if your dad's computer fail, any other DHCP enabled device connected to the router will have Internet access. Anyway, my two cent :D Thanks for the advice. I was told that it is possible to configure the current modem as a router, and that's what I will try next. Generally speaking, I don't understand what is the advantage: the router also needs to be configured, and can also fail? Thanks, Moshe pgpfrt6C98bi6.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: ppp connection problem
* Mike Kazantsev mike_kazant...@fraggod.net [09/03/09 06:15]: On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:20:32 -0400 Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote: We called the ISP, and from their side it seems that he is connected, and everything is fine. I don't know where else to look. The log messages showed in the beginning messages of the form LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests but they seem to no longer appear. As I said, I don't even know where to start looking for the problem. Any help is appreciated. I can suggest trying at least two things: 1. pon connection name debug nodetach You'll see a lot of messages, and, probably, some errors. Most of them are probably non-fatal, but try eliminating all of them by setting right asyncmap, compression, authentication etc In the end you should get IP and connection shouldn't break after a minute or so, which is often because of 2. Thanks. As far as I understand, the connection name should be the name of a file in /etc/ppp/peers? If so, this is probably something he should create. 2. ip route Check that there's only one default route, that there's a route to IP you're connecing with, aside from default one through it, and that it's metric is lower than the default one. Check that you can still ping that IP. I checked that already, that seems fine. Thank you, Moshe -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net pgpCBfDj5QAkJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ppp connection problem
Moshe Kamensky wrote: Thanks. As far as I understand, the connection name should be the name of a file in /etc/ppp/peers? If so, this is probably something he should create. That can be created using pppconfig if I recall correctly. I also noticed pppoe-setup in case that may be of interest. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: @kde-4.2
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:00:33 + (UTC), James wrote: cat /etc/portage/sets/kde4.3 /etc/portage/package.keywords Or make package.keywordsa directory and simply put a copy of the sets file in there (or a symlink to the sets file). This is the more manageable option. Interesting approach. I usually like to follow the gentoo recommended practices. I get the feeling that sets via portage 2.2 is very much a work in progress. So which of these approaches is likely to become the de'facto method? The Gentoo approach has always been to handle package.keywords yourself, autounmask is an unofficial utility. I hope there will be the facility to add a set to the file in future. Also, I omitted the ~amd64 at the end of all of those manual entries into my package.keywords file. It work without them. So my question is the -amd64 entry on every line of my package.keywords deprecated now with portage 2.2? It's always been like that (well, for a very long time, at least). If you don't specify an arch in the file, it uses the testing variant of whatever you have in make.conf. -- Neil Bothwick Do you steal taglines too? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ppp connection problem
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 19:06, Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote: * Daniel da Veiga danieldave...@gmail.com [09/03/09 12:33]: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 17:20, Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to help my father install gentoo on a new computer (I am across the ocean). We have a problem with the internet connection. He has an adsl account. He runs pppoe-start, and it says that he is connected. ifconfig shows that ppp0 is up, and gives an ip address. However, I can't ping that address (I get 100% packet loss). He also can't ping any address. We called the ISP, and from their side it seems that he is connected, and everything is fine. I don't know where else to look. The log messages showed in the beginning messages of the form LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests but they seem to no longer appear. As I said, I don't even know where to start looking for the problem. Any help is appreciated. OK, this may me a little off topic. I don't even know where to start when it comes to check your dad's connection. Being far away and not knowing the exact messages, with no access to the machine itself, its almost impossible to debug and resolve the problem. My advice: get a router! Configure it for your dad's connection, the router will assume the PPoE connection, saving you the trouble. It also will act as a firewall and even if your dad's computer fail, any other DHCP enabled device connected to the router will have Internet access. Anyway, my two cent :D Thanks for the advice. I was told that it is possible to configure the current modem as a router, and that's what I will try next. Generally speaking, I don't understand what is the advantage: the router also needs to be configured, and can also fail? There are some advantages. The router (or modem in router mode) is already configured, you usually just have to set the right auth method (PPPoE) and provide a valid user/pass, and that's about it. It will only authenticate when the connection is ready or keep trying till it suceeds. You don't need to start the connection ever, you'll get a firewall and DHCP server, and the configuration (usually a web interface) is easy (at least easier than a ppp connection). Most routers get all information and relay it (DNS, gateway) to their address, or provide this info in DHCP, so there's no configuration to do at your computer, as an eth0 not configured is assumed DHCP. Also you can get rid of all ppp related stuff from the computer. I only say that cause my dad's home connection was setup that way so I would never have to spend a whole weekend afternoon teaching him again, he turns the computer on and its already online. -- Daniel da Veiga
[gentoo-user] Re: @kde-4.2
Nikos Chantziaras realnc at arcor.de writes: James wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I get the feeling we're all hacking our own install semantics here for kde-4.2. I find the -meta packages very helpful. Instead of pulling in all of KDE (with tons of stuff I don't need), I simply emerged those: My understanding is that all the meta packaging is going away sooner than later. So either gentoo defined sets or James defined sets are the only option, for the future At least that's what others have indicated... james
[gentoo-user] Re: @kde-4.2
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: The Gentoo approach has always been to handle package.keywords yourself, autounmask is an unofficial utility. I hope there will be the facility to add a set to the file in future. good to know. It's always been like that (well, for a very long time, at least). If you don't specify an arch in the file, it uses the testing variant of whatever you have in make.conf. I guess being 'late' to the party, is better than missing the whole event.. thx, James
[gentoo-user] Nokia/TrollTech's Qt Eclipse Plug-in
Does anyone have an e-build for the Nokia/TrollTech Qt Eclipse Plug-in? http://www.qtsoftware.com/developer/eclipse-integration TIA, Ben
[gentoo-user] LTSP 5 on Gentoo
Is anybody running LTSP 5 on Gentoo? I know it is possible to install it but not without a pain :-/ I was able to find this documentation but I think it is out of date: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/LTSP -- #Joseph GPG KeyID: ED0E1FB7
Re: [gentoo-user] netcard interface with alias
On 3/2/09 4:10 AM, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have 7 networks behind a machine with 5 network's device. Now, this machine running debian, but i'll upgrade too gentoo. How i can create a eth0:1, for example, using /etc/conf.d/net? Thanks -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmrzNAACgkQ35zeJy7JhCijFwCfaIgUYnNX3og3zQ/RMRyEb8vY SmoAmgPshApqi3hLGxbuz/mXhOc6GVgK =J1Fx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Is there are reason you haven't considered something like pfSense for this machine? Sincerely, Joshua
