Re: [gentoo-user] crazy KDE4 panel
On Saturday 02 May 2009 06:21:20 Stroller wrote: On 1 May 2009, at 20:49, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: There is a shot of my screen (1.4MB, look at bottom and right panels): http://gaydenko.com/tmp/shot01.png which I get periodically after few hours working under KDE - at some moment crazy things happen :-) There is very long software chain from kernel video driver (intel in my case for on-board G965) to KDE4 itself (~amd64). As a result, I'm not sure where to dig in. Looks like an overheating GPU to me. Do you have accelerated graphics on for those panels? I'll bet if you turn it off the problem will disappear. Say, bottom panel hasn't something special: std menu, lancelot, tasks, tray and clock. Can overheating be such selectable? - I mean only KDE4 panels- related problem takes place (say, my sone plays few games without any problems, as well as, say, OOo/Qt/KDE and so on emerging ). And I didn't overclocked something. But have added few additional silent coolers inside a case :-) The graphics card failed here on my Mac a year or two ago, and rather than pay £200 for an Apple-branded replacement, I found a regular PC graphics card on which a hacked firmware could be flashed. I have to under-clock it a little, and if I'm not careful I get a very similar effect to that in your pictures, but all over the screen. If you're able to boot to Windows it might be worth playing an FPS - if it crashes with graphical glitches then you may be able to get the card (or m/board?) replaced under warranty. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Re: Mysql and utf8: Can't initialize character set utf-8
2009/4/30 Galevsky galev...@gmail.com: Hi, I have a problem with mysql 5.0.71-r1 and utf8 charset. snip and now my web sites can't connect to the DBs and I face the following error: Can't initialize character set utf-8 (path: /usr/share/mysql/charsets/) Well can someone tell me if a utf-8 gentoo box shoud have the file /usr/share/mysql/charsets/utf-8.xml ? I could be sure that the matter comes from Portage/flags/whatever else during the installation stage Thank you Galevsky
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mysql and utf8: Can't initialize character set utf-8
On 5/2/09, Galevsky galev...@gmail.com wrote: Well can someone tell me if a utf-8 gentoo box shoud have the file /usr/share/mysql/charsets/utf-8.xml ? AFAICT no and AFAICT nor should any other MySQL instance on any platform. According to sql/share/charsets/README those files are only for simple charsets, e.g., with single-byte characters. UTF-8 is multi-byte and thus should be compiled in the strings library. -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about making a tarball
On 2 May 2009, at 03:55, Dale wrote: ... [1] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Custom_Stage4#The_TAR_system I'm wanting to print this page, from the link above. Is it me or does some of the lines run off the edge of the margins and get lost? I have tried this in both Seamonkey and Konqueror with the same results. I also tried to copy and paste it to OOo and Kwrite and it cuts it off too. One line that seems consistent is the line about options not being used with tar, the -p option. It looks ok on the website but not when printed. Works fine here using Safari's print then Save as PDF, but a bit whacky when you right-click choose export to PDF. The latter would normally print the whole lot as a single page of unrestrained length, but it is blank after the end of the first paragraph (However, there may be problems with this alternate method if you use the stage4 on systems with different hardware configurations.). I would have expected the latter to be the more reliable print method, TBH. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] crazy KDE4 panel
On 2 May 2009, at 09:39, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: ... Looks like an overheating GPU to me. Do you have accelerated graphics on for those panels? I'll bet if you turn it off the problem will disappear. Say, bottom panel hasn't something special: std menu, lancelot, tasks, tray and clock. Can overheating be such selectable? - I mean only KDE4 panels- related problem takes place (say, my sone plays few games without any problems, as well as, say, OOo/Qt/KDE and so on emerging ). And I didn't overclocked something. But have added few additional silent coolers inside a case :-) Can overheating be so selective? I can't say for sure, but I can't see it having so much work to do when displaying the wallpaper as if those panels fade or slide. I presume they can be auto-hidden one way or the other when not in use, and that effects would be enabled by default if you have GPU acceleration available. Speckles are somewhat characteristic, and most any videogamer will recognise them - once you've had a graphics card or a Playstation (type) console die on you, they are very recognisable. The emerging won't have any effect on speckles, only GPU-related activity. It depends on the particular games that your son plays whether I'd say they're relevant. I'm no expert on Linux graphics (I don't use it on the desktop myself), but I'd guess TuxRacer probably does use the GPU whereas Frozen Bubble does not. If you're able to turn the GPU's acceleration features off in X11 (or the kernel?) and just treat it as a framebuffer device, then please prove me wrong! Stroller.
[gentoo-user] gentoo older versions
hi All I am looking for older versions of gentoo - 1.x, 2.x,... I browsed source repositories - gentoo, gentoo-src, gentoo-x86 - could not find/identify it. Will appreciate any help in this. Nitin
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about making a tarball
Stroller wrote: On 2 May 2009, at 03:55, Dale wrote: ... [1] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Custom_Stage4#The_TAR_system I'm wanting to print this page, from the link above. Is it me or does some of the lines run off the edge of the margins and get lost? I have tried this in both Seamonkey and Konqueror with the same results. I also tried to copy and paste it to OOo and Kwrite and it cuts it off too. One line that seems consistent is the line about options not being used with tar, the -p option. It looks ok on the website but not when printed. Works fine here using Safari's print then Save as PDF, but a bit whacky when you right-click choose export to PDF. The latter would normally print the whole lot as a single page of unrestrained length, but it is blank after the end of the first paragraph (However, there may be problems with this alternate method if you use the stage4 on systems with different hardware configurations.). I would have expected the latter to be the more reliable print method, TBH. Stroller. I was just curious if it was a setting or something on my end. Usually when both Seamonkey and Konqueror do the same thing then it is not a bad setting but it does look like the page should be printable as well. Is this a bug that should be reported? I also wonder if this is the only page like this? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo older versions
Nitin Kanaskar schrieb: hi All I am looking for older versions of gentoo - 1.x, 2.x,... I browsed source repositories - gentoo, gentoo-src, gentoo-x86 - could not find/identify it. Will appreciate any help in this. Nitin I suppose with gentoo you mean portage, right? In that case you might find older versions by looking at the corresponding subversion/cvs/git repository. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about making a tarball
Stroller wrote: On 2 May 2009, at 03:55, Dale wrote: ... [1] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Custom_Stage4#The_TAR_system I'm wanting to print this page, from the link above. Is it me or does some of the lines run off the edge of the margins and get lost? I have tried this in both Seamonkey and Konqueror with the same results. I also tried to copy and paste it to OOo and Kwrite and it cuts it off too. One line that seems consistent is the line about options not being used with tar, the -p option. It looks ok on the website but not when printed. Works fine here using Safari's print then Save as PDF, but a bit whacky when you right-click choose export to PDF. The latter would normally print the whole lot as a single page of unrestrained length, but it is blank after the end of the first paragraph (However, there may be problems with this alternate method if you use the stage4 on systems with different hardware configurations.). I would have expected the latter to be the more reliable print method, TBH. Stroller. I just noticed something on the pdf you sent offlist. It has a horizontal scroll thingy and doesn't print the whole line either. It also looked to me like the script sections that were more than a page long got cut off on the bottom. I think someone needs a better plan for those pages. I also clicked the link on the left to make the page printable, it didn't work either. It seems there is no way to print this page and it not cut off the longer lines. Weird. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
On 2009-05-02, Nitin Kanaskar nitinv...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for older versions of gentoo - 1.x, 2.x,... Gentoo doesn't have versions. Individual packages have versions. I browsed source repositories - gentoo, gentoo-src, gentoo-x86 - could not find/identify it. You're going to have to explain what it is. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2009-05-02, Nitin Kanaskar nitinv...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for older versions of gentoo - 1.x, 2.x,... Gentoo doesn't have versions. Individual packages have versions. I browsed source repositories - gentoo, gentoo-src, gentoo-x86 - could not find/identify it. You're going to have to explain what it is. Since he is going back to some really old stuff, several years it looks like, wouldn't he have trouble with some stuff even existing any more? Doesn't the really old stuff get removed from the tree? Would he be able to get the correct ebuilds to even tell portage how to install the old versions? I'm not sure I get the reason for this. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] any gentoo mutt users?
I've recently discovered the awesomeness of mutt. (I may be a little late, but better late than never!) I'm use it for my work email. I have a rather complex and lengthy set of folders, and an equally complex procmail to go along with it. Mutt is blazing fast at opening mail folders and sorting things, but I'm wondering how to check when a new messages comes into a folder and skips the inbox. I've heard of xbuffy and gbuffy, but xbuffy isn't in portage and gbuffy fails to compile every time (and it's masked) Any other suggestions? Something very lightweight would be awesome -- even text based would be okay. What are you mutt users to check email in all your folders? Thoughts? Ideas? :) -j
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
On 2009-05-02, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-05-02, Nitin Kanaskar nitinv...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for older versions of gentoo - 1.x, 2.x,... Gentoo doesn't have versions. Individual packages have versions. After a bit of googling, it looks like the snapshots/CDs did have version numbers prior to about 5 years ago. After that they were just labelled according to year. [Still, they're not really versions the way that other distros have versions.] I browsed source repositories - gentoo, gentoo-src, gentoo-x86 - could not find/identify it. Old versions of packages aren't kept in the portage tree forever. If you're looking for old versions of the CD images, it looks like they're only kept around for a couple years. -- Grant
[gentoo-user] Moving an installed system to RAID10
I have a well-running AMD64 system running on a 250G disk that is beginning to
show some SMART errors. I have purchased and partitioned two 1T disks into
RAID10 arrays and would like to move everything to the new arrays, make them
bootable and abandon booting from the 250G disk.
I know I'll need to change /boot/grub/grub.conf, /etc/fstab and any other
files that refer to my current drive partitions, /dev/sda{1,2,3,4}. I am
concerned whether my current kernel will recognize the /dev/md{1,2,3,4}
arrays on booting, and before switching from the initrd root disk. How can I
check the parameters and contents of the initrd I'm currently using and/or
generate a new one to permit booting from the RAID disks?
--
Jim
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[gentoo-user] Re: any gentoo mutt users?
On 2009-05-02, James j...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've recently discovered the awesomeness of mutt. (I may be a little late, but better late than never!) I'm use it for my work email. I have a rather complex and lengthy set of folders, and an equally complex procmail to go along with it. Mutt is blazing fast at opening mail folders and sorting things, but I'm wondering how to check when a new messages comes into a folder and skips the inbox. I've heard of xbuffy and gbuffy, but xbuffy isn't in portage and gbuffy fails to compile every time (and it's masked) Any other suggestions? Something very lightweight would be awesome -- even text based would be okay. What are you mutt users to check email in all your folders? I used gbuffy for years, but finally gave up on it -- it was unmaintained and just wouldn't build any longer. After that, I switched to gkrellm for a while, but had to make a _lot_ of modifications to the mail-indicator program to get it to work with multiple folders/servers. I've recently switched to XFCE's mailwatch panel plugin. I have a separate panel for nothing but mailwatch instances. If you're already using XFCE, it's pretty lightweight. It does have some problems with instances randomly vanishing (permanently) and taking configuration files with them. To solve that problem, I've created some bash/sed scripts I use to re-create the instances and config files after they've vanished. :/ It's also a PITA to configure it so that it displays folder names. I ended up creating a set of svg/png icons containing the folder names (one in red when there's new mail, and one in black when there isn't). -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know have some vulnerabilities. If i have to build whole OS from source, I am willing to do that - but could not find any resource on that old stuff. Hope I am clear about why I am looking for such old stuff. Nitin On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-05-02, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-05-02, Nitin Kanaskar nitinv...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for older versions of gentoo - 1.x, 2.x,... Gentoo doesn't have versions. Individual packages have versions. After a bit of googling, it looks like the snapshots/CDs did have version numbers prior to about 5 years ago. After that they were just labelled according to year. [Still, they're not really versions the way that other distros have versions.] I browsed source repositories - gentoo, gentoo-src, gentoo-x86 - could not find/identify it. Old versions of packages aren't kept in the portage tree forever. If you're looking for old versions of the CD images, it looks like they're only kept around for a couple years. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 10:14:45AM -0700, Nitin Kanaskar wrote: Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know have some vulnerabilities. If i have to build whole OS from source, I am willing to do that - but could not find any resource on that old stuff. Gentoo, as a distribution, is versionless. The 2004/2005 you are referring to are versions of our release media. What you would have to do is find out which packages and which versions of the packages you want to work with and see if we still have them in the tree. William -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkn8gawACgkQblQW9DDEZThqXwCgs9ZSKvDZbRgd9bzmDxe9wA36 ccUAoIrd1uKpHzEvlRXRbBEzearyYKYS =cPF9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] emerge --oneshot gcc-4.1.2
Hi all I have to emerge gcc-4.1.2 to use with CUDA. However, I receive the following message. !!! 'gcc-4.1.2' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. What should I do to avoid of this problem? Thanks a lot Hung
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
Nitin Kanaskar wrote: Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know have some vulnerabilities. If i have to build whole OS from source, I am willing to do that - but could not find any resource on that old stuff. Hope I am clear about why I am looking for such old stuff. That's not really feasible. You should look into older versions of something like Debian, Fedora, (open)SUSE or something else instead.
Re: [gentoo-user] crazy KDE4 panel
On Saturday 02 May 2009 16:23:48 Stroller wrote: On 2 May 2009, at 09:39, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: ... Looks like an overheating GPU to me. Do you have accelerated graphics on for those panels? I'll bet if you turn it off the problem will disappear. Say, bottom panel hasn't something special: std menu, lancelot, tasks, tray and clock. Can overheating be such selectable? - I mean only KDE4 panels- related problem takes place (say, my sone plays few games without any problems, as well as, say, OOo/Qt/KDE and so on emerging ). And I didn't overclocked something. But have added few additional silent coolers inside a case :-) Can overheating be so selective? I can't say for sure, but I can't see it having so much work to do when displaying the wallpaper as if those panels fade or slide. I presume they can be auto-hidden one way or the other when not in use, and that effects would be enabled by default if you have GPU acceleration available. Speckles are somewhat characteristic, and most any videogamer will recognise them - once you've had a graphics card or a Playstation (type) console die on you, they are very recognisable. The emerging won't have any effect on speckles, only GPU-related activity. It depends on the particular games that your son plays whether I'd say they're relevant. I'm no expert on Linux graphics (I don't use it on the desktop myself), but I'd guess TuxRacer probably does use the GPU whereas Frozen Bubble does not. If you're able to turn the GPU's acceleration features off in X11 (or the kernel?) and just treat it as a framebuffer device, then please prove me wrong! Stroller. OK, as Stroller has suggested, I have cleaned heatsink, replaced heat- conducting paste and so on. Now it would be nice to have something for quick GPU load testing (instead of long-long KDE session). Can anybody suggest an appropriate sw or, may be, some game with hard and heavy (wrt GPU load) demo?
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge --oneshot gcc-4.1.2
Hung Dang wrote: Hi all I have to emerge gcc-4.1.2 to use with CUDA. However, I receive the following message. !!! 'gcc-4.1.2' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. What should I do to avoid of this problem? Try: emerge --oneshot =gcc-4.1.2 (that is, you need an = in front.) Or simply just: emerge --oneshot gcc if you're not using an ~arch (testing) GCC.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --oneshot gcc-4.1.2
On Sat, 02 May 2009 11:27:11 -0600 Hung Dang hungp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I have to emerge gcc-4.1.2 to use with CUDA. However, I receive the following message. !!! 'gcc-4.1.2' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. What should I do to avoid of this problem? Thanks a lot Hung Try to use the following command emerge =gcc-4.1.2
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --oneshot gcc-4.1.2
Hung Dang a écrit : Hi all I have to emerge gcc-4.1.2 to use with CUDA. However, I receive the following message. !!! 'gcc-4.1.2' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. What should I do to avoid of this problem? emerge --oneshot =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 Check man 5 ebuild to have more information about package atom syntax :) HTH Thanks a lot Hung -- Xavier Parizet YaGB : http://gentooist.com GPG :DC81 6FEE 6EBE FCE4 1C18 202F E575 4A5D 036D 1408 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
On Saturday 02 May 2009 19:14:45 Nitin Kanaskar wrote: Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know have some vulnerabilities. If i have to build whole OS from source, I am willing to do that - but could not find any resource on that old stuff. I may have a copy of the 2005.0 livecd lying around somewhere. If I find it, I'll put a copy on my ftp server for you. But I see some problems with what you are trying to do: 1. source repositories for code changes over time. 2004/2005 ebuilds may have SRC_URIs that simply do not exist any more. Major packages (such as most of system) will likely not be a problem, but minor packages may well be problematic. 2. All gentoo ebuilds ever shipped are in cvs or svn somewhere. It was Neil Bothwick or Iain Buchanan who recently posted a URL, with luck the right man will see this and report. However, I do not know of a way to extract the entire portage tree as it was at a point in time. This too will be problematic. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --oneshot gcc-4.1.2
Thanks all of you for the quick help. Thing seem to be OK now Have a nice weekend Hung Xavier Parizet wrote: Hung Dang a écrit : Hi all I have to emerge gcc-4.1.2 to use with CUDA. However, I receive the following message. !!! 'gcc-4.1.2' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. What should I do to avoid of this problem? emerge --oneshot =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 Check man 5 ebuild to have more information about package atom syntax :) HTH Thanks a lot Hung
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
I just noticed gentoo linux security site - - www.gentoo.org/security/en/ which mentions some very recent vulnerability reports in latest gentoo packages. That means i can play with these new gentoo packages for vulnerability and exploit analysis. Nikos - please correct me if you think i am going wrong. On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: Nitin Kanaskar wrote: Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know have some vulnerabilities. If i have to build whole OS from source, I am willing to do that - but could not find any resource on that old stuff. Hope I am clear about why I am looking for such old stuff. That's not really feasible. You should look into older versions of something like Debian, Fedora, (open)SUSE or something else instead.
Re: [gentoo-user] any gentoo mutt users?
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 12:24:00PM -0400, Penguin Lover James squawked: I've recently discovered the awesomeness of mutt. (I may be a little late, but better late than never!) 7 year user of Mutt, and I cannot agree more. I'm use it for my work email. I have a rather complex and lengthy set of folders, and an equally complex procmail to go along with it. Mutt is blazing fast at opening mail folders and sorting things, but I'm wondering how to check when a new messages comes into a folder and skips the inbox. Any other suggestions? Something very lightweight would be awesome -- even text based would be okay. What are you mutt users to check email in all your folders? In your .bashrc (if you you bash) insert unset MAIL export MAILCHECK=15 export MAILPATH='colon separated list of Mailboxes' This will make bash check for new mail in your MAILPATH every 15 seconds, and will display something about you having new mail before showing the next primary prompt. If you want to get fancier, try something like mine export MAILPATH='~/Mail/inbox?You have mail from unknown sender.:~/Mail/gentoo-ml?New mail from Gentoo Mailing List.:~/Mail/work?New mail from office mates.:~/Mail/family?New mail from a family member.' (I trimmed it a bit, so you don't get the names of all my friends.) The idea is simple, and I think the syntax is self-evident. Also, in your .muttrc, you should set (if you use mbox type boxes. For maildirs the syntax is similar, but your should check the mutt manual to be sure) something like the following snip set mbox_type=mbox set folder=/home/wwong/Mail set spoolfile=/home/wwong/Mail/inbox unset mbox mailboxes =gentoo-ml =work =family This way mutt will know about your mailboxes. The spoolfile will be the default box that mutt opens. If you have bash-completion enabled, you can just type 'mutt -f =mailbox name' for any mailbox listed under mailboxes in .muttrc to open that mailbox. While in mutt, hitting 'c' will now first check all your mailboxes listed under the mailboxes entry in order to see if there are any new mails in those boxes, if so, it will default to the box, and you can just hit Return to open the box and read your new mail. If no mailbox has new mail, 'c' will bring up a prompt for the mailbox you want to change to as usual. I hope my explanation is clear enough... if you need more help, feel free to ask! Best, W -- Pages one and two [of Zaphod's presidential speech] had been salvaged by a Damogran Frond Crested Eagle and had already become incorporated into an extraordinary new form of nest which the eagle had invented. It was constructed largely of papier mache and it was virtually impossible for a newly hatched baby eagle to break out of it. The Damogran Frond Crested Eagle had heard of the notion of survival of the species but wanted no truck with it. - An example of Damogran wildlife. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 876 days, 16:33
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
Looking at all replies - I think working on older gentoo would most likely cause problems. I am thinking of going for latest livecd - 2008 release. On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 02 May 2009 19:14:45 Nitin Kanaskar wrote: Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know have some vulnerabilities. If i have to build whole OS from source, I am willing to do that - but could not find any resource on that old stuff. I may have a copy of the 2005.0 livecd lying around somewhere. If I find it, I'll put a copy on my ftp server for you. But I see some problems with what you are trying to do: 1. source repositories for code changes over time. 2004/2005 ebuilds may have SRC_URIs that simply do not exist any more. Major packages (such as most of system) will likely not be a problem, but minor packages may well be problematic. 2. All gentoo ebuilds ever shipped are in cvs or svn somewhere. It was Neil Bothwick or Iain Buchanan who recently posted a URL, with luck the right man will see this and report. However, I do not know of a way to extract the entire portage tree as it was at a point in time. This too will be problematic. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving an installed system to RAID10
I know I'll need to change /boot/grub/grub.conf, /etc/fstab and any other
files that refer to my current drive partitions, /dev/sda{1,2,3,4}. I am
concerned whether my current kernel will recognize the /dev/md{1,2,3,4}
arrays on booting, and before switching from the initrd root disk. How can
I
check the parameters and contents of the initrd I'm currently using and/or
generate a new one to permit booting from the RAID disks?
On my eeepc I use raid a lot (i bundle old usb keys together, dont laugh!)
I dont use initrd and here is a typical grub line with my raid:
(hd0,0)/boot/bzImage-2.6.29.1 root=/dev/md64 delay=10
The delay is useful to give time to the kernel to recognize my usb keys
before loading init.
Make sure the partitions are 'fd' type in fdisk (raid autodetect or
something like that)
One important thing: the kernel that gets booted from grub (the bzimage) it
is best when it is sitting outside the raid since grub does not support raid
(iirc). So, back to my example, (hd0,0) actually is a ext2 (not raid)
partition.
Good luck!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Nitin Kanaskar nitinv...@gmail.com wrote: Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know have some vulnerabilities. If i have to build whole OS from source, I am willing to do that - but could not find any resource on that old stuff. Hope I am clear about why I am looking for such old stuff. i hope you are already a subscriber of the great mailing list: full-disclosure i dont think gentoo/portage is the easiest software to look at for old vulnerabilities, reason is, portage will syncronise with current 'version' so you probably want to look at older version of the portage package or older version of some other software. if you prefer to go toward some other software, checkout insecure.org(nmap's former official website) there is a section for mailing lists and links to that full disclosure list with archives. High volume list, vulnerabilites are disclosed about all kinds of software (90% linux software and some of other OSes). Good luck!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
* Nitin Kanaskar (nitinv...@gmail.com) [02.05.09 19:15]: Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know have some vulnerabilities. If i have to build whole OS from source, I am willing to do that - but could not find any resource on that old stuff. Are you totally aware of what gentoo is about? You always build the Gentoo OS from source. From upstream source! That's the hole point of gentoo. And since you are able to do a vast amount of choices, I think there is no gentoo installation alike in the world, especially when it comes to binaries. Also there is no defined set of software versions, which could make a version of gentoo, as the binary dist have. Everything is in fluent change and update. So there are no old installations exept those someone forgot over the time. Hope I am clear about why I am looking for such old stuff. Gentoo could be helpful to build such old stuff, the ebuilds are all in the cvs and if you have got the upstream tarball, you can easily rebuild the vulnerable software. But beware of some nasty depandency problems. Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail s...@sti@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org pgpkmlzA8HpQn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
Nitin Kanaskar schrieb: Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know have some vulnerabilities. If i have to build whole OS from source, I am willing to do that - but could not find any resource on that old stuff. Hope I am clear about why I am looking for such old stuff. Nitin hi, there should be the iso of xbox gentoo from 2005 available. http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo/experimental/x86/xbox/livecd/ Also the old ebuilds (not the sources) should be somewhere to find. I read that they are kept. I might also have a 2005 iso from an minimal cd left but I am not absolutly sure about that. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
KH wrote: Nitin Kanaskar schrieb: Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know have some vulnerabilities. If i have to build whole OS from source, I am willing to do that - but could not find any resource on that old stuff. Hope I am clear about why I am looking for such old stuff. Nitin hi, there should be the iso of xbox gentoo from 2005 available. http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo/experimental/x86/xbox/livecd/ Also the old ebuilds (not the sources) should be somewhere to find. I read that they are kept. I might also have a 2005 iso from an minimal cd left but I am not absolutly sure about that. kh I !may! have a Gentoo 1.4 CD somewhere. I would have to look around and see if I can find it tho. Let me know if you want me to look. I would have to copy it and mail it tho, if you are in the USA of course. I don't have a way to upload it or serve it up. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving an installed system to RAID10
On Samstag 02 Mai 2009, Jim Cunning wrote:
I have a well-running AMD64 system running on a 250G disk that is beginning
to show some SMART errors. I have purchased and partitioned two 1T disks
into RAID10 arrays and would like to move everything to the new arrays,
make them bootable and abandon booting from the 250G disk.
I know I'll need to change /boot/grub/grub.conf, /etc/fstab and any other
files that refer to my current drive partitions, /dev/sda{1,2,3,4}. I am
concerned whether my current kernel will recognize the /dev/md{1,2,3,4}
arrays on booting, and before switching from the initrd root disk. How can
I check the parameters and contents of the initrd I'm currently using
and/or generate a new one to permit booting from the RAID disks?
how do you do 10 with only two disks? You need four!
the kernel is able to autoassemble - so you don't need an initrd - me I hate
initrds.
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with alsa sound
At Fri, 01 May 2009 17:25:14 -0500 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I have two machines desktop (x86_64) and laptop (i686), both with HDA Intel. On the laptop all is well. On the desktop playback is fine, but recording is not, e.g., when using skype my son cannot hear me, but I can hear him. On the (working) laptop alsa mixer shows two (stereo) volumes, capture and digital. The nonworking desktop has only digital If you have not already done so, check out the HDA documentation at: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio.txt and HD-Audio-Models.txt I don't have either of those files. The only close match is /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/alsa/hda_codec.txt but that doesn't seem to have what you describe. For example it does not contain the string 6stack. allan Sometimes (usually?) alsa fails to detect the exact configuration of your audio chipset. You can force it to use a certain configuration when the alsa modules are loaded. For example, I have to use 6stack-digout on mine.
[gentoo-user] sync'ing two computers (not related to emerge)
hi there! I've been using unison to synchronise and backup my computers. unison is based on rsync IIRC but with the difference that it 'remembers' the state of the folder that was synchronised. This way, if I delete a file on A, when sync'ing it will be deleted on B. While rsync would leave the file on B... I see rsync as a very good 'cp' program, but I need something that can deal with conflicts (file changed on both hosts/directories) and can propagate changes like deletes properly. Is there a way to get this behavior with rsync (maybe i missed something)? The reason i'm asking is that unison has been having problems recently in sync'ing two pc... On my laptop, when i start the sync, it first checks it for changes against the 'unison snapshot'. Changes done since last sync are those that will be propagated. But it takes so long to check for changes (disk input rate is too slow i think) that once it finished, when it's time to send the changes to the remote server, the remote end has already disconnected! Thanks for the help/suggestions!
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving an installed system to RAID10
On Saturday 02 May 2009 13:43:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Samstag 02 Mai 2009, Jim Cunning wrote:
I have a well-running AMD64 system running on a 250G disk that is
beginning to show some SMART errors. I have purchased and partitioned
two 1T disks into RAID10 arrays and would like to move everything to the
new arrays, make them bootable and abandon booting from the 250G disk.
I know I'll need to change /boot/grub/grub.conf, /etc/fstab and any other
files that refer to my current drive partitions, /dev/sda{1,2,3,4}. I am
concerned whether my current kernel will recognize the /dev/md{1,2,3,4}
arrays on booting, and before switching from the initrd root disk. How
can I check the parameters and contents of the initrd I'm currently using
and/or generate a new one to permit booting from the RAID disks?
how do you do 10 with only two disks? You need four!
the kernel is able to autoassemble - so you don't need an initrd - me I
hate initrds.
RAID10 = RAID1+0. It works fine with 2 disks. I was able to create it first
with one drive missing and then add the second, which sync'ed without
problems.
I'm glad I don't need any special initrd.
--
Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Moving an installed system to RAID10
Jim Cunning wrote: On Saturday 02 May 2009 13:43:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: how do you do 10 with only two disks? You need four! the kernel is able to autoassemble - so you don't need an initrd - me I hate initrds. RAID10 = RAID1+0. It works fine with 2 disks. I was able to create it first with one drive missing and then add the second, which sync'ed without problems. Theoretically, for RAID 10, you need 4 disks, two raid 1's then used to make a RAID 0 (or the other way round, I forget) BUT, mdadm will use partitions instead of disks.So you can make a RAID 10 where each stripe takes up half the disk, and the stripes are mirrored on each diskOr each disk is mirrored on itself, and the two disks strippedOr something Won't give you the performance advantages of RAID 10 though, but will still waste half your space. I would prefer a mirror over the complexity of RAID10 with two disks.
Re: [gentoo-user] any gentoo mutt users?
Thanks for the response Grant and Willie! I'm not sure that the xfce4 mail watch plugin is going to be helpful. I currently have mutt configured as an IMAP client and I have yet to find a tool that can poll individual folders (or mailboxes) on a remote IMAP system. Because everything is remote, I can't tell bash to check for mail locally. Not to mention I'm a zsh user. ;) I actually configured mutt with a list of mailboxes, but because I have so many mailboxes mutt actually became completely unresponsive and would take over 5 minutes to actually load completely. Bummer. I must admit that Thunderbird is pretty good about keeping tabs on the many mailboxes I have and updating me when something new pops up. From what I've been told, gbuffy is one of the few tools that actually does what I'm looking for, but as Grant mentioned it won't compile successfully (at least not using the ebuild in the portage tree). Any thoughts on how to do this when using IMAP and lots of folders? :) -j On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Willie Wong ww...@princeton.edu wrote: On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 12:24:00PM -0400, Penguin Lover James squawked: I've recently discovered the awesomeness of mutt. (I may be a little late, but better late than never!) 7 year user of Mutt, and I cannot agree more. I'm use it for my work email. I have a rather complex and lengthy set of folders, and an equally complex procmail to go along with it. Mutt is blazing fast at opening mail folders and sorting things, but I'm wondering how to check when a new messages comes into a folder and skips the inbox. Any other suggestions? Something very lightweight would be awesome -- even text based would be okay. What are you mutt users to check email in all your folders? In your .bashrc (if you you bash) insert unset MAIL export MAILCHECK=15 export MAILPATH='colon separated list of Mailboxes' This will make bash check for new mail in your MAILPATH every 15 seconds, and will display something about you having new mail before showing the next primary prompt. If you want to get fancier, try something like mine export MAILPATH='~/Mail/inbox?You have mail from unknown sender.:~/Mail/gentoo-ml?New mail from Gentoo Mailing List.:~/Mail/work?New mail from office mates.:~/Mail/family?New mail from a family member.' (I trimmed it a bit, so you don't get the names of all my friends.) The idea is simple, and I think the syntax is self-evident. Also, in your .muttrc, you should set (if you use mbox type boxes. For maildirs the syntax is similar, but your should check the mutt manual to be sure) something like the following snip set mbox_type=mbox set folder=/home/wwong/Mail set spoolfile=/home/wwong/Mail/inbox unset mbox mailboxes =gentoo-ml =work =family This way mutt will know about your mailboxes. The spoolfile will be the default box that mutt opens. If you have bash-completion enabled, you can just type 'mutt -f =mailbox name' for any mailbox listed under mailboxes in .muttrc to open that mailbox. While in mutt, hitting 'c' will now first check all your mailboxes listed under the mailboxes entry in order to see if there are any new mails in those boxes, if so, it will default to the box, and you can just hit Return to open the box and read your new mail. If no mailbox has new mail, 'c' will bring up a prompt for the mailbox you want to change to as usual. I hope my explanation is clear enough... if you need more help, feel free to ask! Best, W -- Pages one and two [of Zaphod's presidential speech] had been salvaged by a Damogran Frond Crested Eagle and had already become incorporated into an extraordinary new form of nest which the eagle had invented. It was constructed largely of papier mache and it was virtually impossible for a newly hatched baby eagle to break out of it. The Damogran Frond Crested Eagle had heard of the notion of survival of the species but wanted no truck with it. - An example of Damogran wildlife. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 876 days, 16:33 -- Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. -Tolkien
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving an installed system to RAID10
On Samstag 02 Mai 2009, Anthony Metcalf wrote: Jim Cunning wrote: On Saturday 02 May 2009 13:43:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: how do you do 10 with only two disks? You need four! the kernel is able to autoassemble - so you don't need an initrd - me I hate initrds. RAID10 = RAID1+0. It works fine with 2 disks. I was able to create it first with one drive missing and then add the second, which sync'ed without problems. Theoretically, for RAID 10, you need 4 disks, two raid 1's then used to make a RAID 0 (or the other way round, I forget) BUT, mdadm will use partitions instead of disks.So you can make a RAID 10 where each stripe takes up half the disk, and the stripes are mirrored on each diskOr each disk is mirrored on itself, and the two disks strippedOr something Won't give you the performance advantages of RAID 10 though, but will still waste half your space. even worse - performance will be even more reduced because the harddisk not only have to write the own stripe but the mirrored one too. Results in more seeking. Seeking = bad. Simple Raid1 would be a lot better. And since Raid1 is 'striping' the read accesses two you have a nice little improvement there.
Re: [gentoo-user] any gentoo mutt users?
On Sunday 03 May 2009 00:00:13 James wrote: I must admit that Thunderbird is pretty good about keeping tabs on the many mailboxes I have and updating me when something new pops up. From what I've been told, gbuffy is one of the few tools that actually does what I'm looking for, but as Grant mentioned it won't compile successfully (at least not using the ebuild in the portage tree). Any thoughts on how to do this when using IMAP and lots of folders? :) How about this, thinking slightly out the box: Pop your mail to a local maildir, but do not delete mails from the server. Run a local IMAP server with that maildir as it's source and point your mail client at it Getmail is excellent at popping like this, it works in the background and you can use whatever filtering tool you fancy. If you need mails more immediately than within three minutes you really should be using jabber instead :-) With local IMAP you can change mail clients in an instant without mucking about with all that tedious import/export stuff. And every mailbox monitoring tool out there will monitor local maildirs and do it well. With this you get all the benefits of IMAP, albeit in a sort of disconnected fashion, and you only suffer the bandwidth hit with large mails once. Your mails are still on the server, so you can still connect to them with IMAP if you wish. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] sync'ing two computers (not related to emerge)
On Saturday 02 May 2009 23:33:38 Simon wrote: hi there! I've been using unison to synchronise and backup my computers. unison is based on rsync IIRC but with the difference that it 'remembers' the state of the folder that was synchronised. This way, if I delete a file on A, when sync'ing it will be deleted on B. While rsync would leave the file on B... I assume you are syncing from A to B? In that case you should look at the various --delete* options to rsync I see rsync as a very good 'cp' program, but I need something that can deal with conflicts (file changed on both hosts/directories) and can propagate changes like deletes properly. Is there a way to get this behavior with rsync (maybe i missed something)? This cannot be done with rsync. It's very much an efficient scp replacement that works with deltas. And there is a definite source and destination, what you are describing is like how source repos work The reason i'm asking is that unison has been having problems recently in sync'ing two pc... On my laptop, when i start the sync, it first checks it for changes against the 'unison snapshot'. Changes done since last sync are those that will be propagated. But it takes so long to check for changes (disk input rate is too slow i think) that once it finished, when it's time to send the changes to the remote server, the remote end has already disconnected! Surely unison has a --timeout or similar option? rsync has it, and it's such an obviously needed config option -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
Thanks a lot Dale for your help. But I would go for other OS - debian, opensuse, fedora...- or recent gentoo releases. Thanks a lot all of you for your inputs. On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: KH wrote: Nitin Kanaskar schrieb: Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know have some vulnerabilities. If i have to build whole OS from source, I am willing to do that - but could not find any resource on that old stuff. Hope I am clear about why I am looking for such old stuff. Nitin hi, there should be the iso of xbox gentoo from 2005 available. http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo/experimental/x86/xbox/livecd/ Also the old ebuilds (not the sources) should be somewhere to find. I read that they are kept. I might also have a 2005 iso from an minimal cd left but I am not absolutly sure about that. kh I !may! have a Gentoo 1.4 CD somewhere. I would have to look around and see if I can find it tho. Let me know if you want me to look. I would have to copy it and mail it tho, if you are in the USA of course. I don't have a way to upload it or serve it up. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
On Sat, 2 May 2009 10:14:45 -0700, Nitin Kanaskar wrote: Ok - I am not clear about the terminology - packages, versions... But i need to install gentoo 2004/2005 - if this is right. I am a graduate student doing research on vulnerabilities, exploits and IDS. Hence I am looking for older gentoo installations which i know havecover some vulnerabilities. I have Gentoo 1.4 on a DVD somewhere, complete with portage tree and distfiles, and a couple of other versions. They are Linux Format cover DVDs but I could remove the copyrighted material from them. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 010: Reserved for future mistakes by our developers signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
On Sat, 2 May 2009 19:45:53 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: 2. All gentoo ebuilds ever shipped are in cvs or svn somewhere. It was Neil Bothwick or Iain Buchanan who recently posted a URL, with luck the right man will see this and report. There's a CVS link on the Gentoo home page, and you can get into the attic from there. However, I do not know of a way to extract the entire portage tree as it was at a point in time. This too will be problematic. As it's a CVS repository, it should be possible to do exactly that. -- Neil Bothwick Yes, I've heard of decaf. What's your point? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sync'ing two computers (not related to emerge)
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 17:33 -0400, Simon wrote: hi there! I've been using unison to synchronise and backup my computers. unison is based on rsync IIRC but with the difference that it 'remembers' the state of the folder that was synchronised. This way, if I delete a file on A, when sync'ing it will be deleted on B. While rsync would leave the file on B... I see rsync as a very good 'cp' program, but I need something that can deal with conflicts (file changed on both hosts/directories) and can propagate changes like deletes properly. Is there a way to get this behavior with rsync (maybe i missed something)? No. Unison implements the rsync protocol for transferring files, but it does not actually use rsync itself. You can make rsync transfer files that are not in either the destination or a reference location with the --compare-dest option, for example if doing an incremental backup, but this will not propagate the deletion of a file or directory. The delete file will come back on the next synchronization. The reason i'm asking is that unison has been having problems recently in sync'ing two pc... On my laptop, when i start the sync, it first checks it for changes against the 'unison snapshot'. Changes done since last sync are those that will be propagated. But it takes so long to check for changes (disk input rate is too slow i think) that once it finished, when it's time to send the changes to the remote server, the remote end has already disconnected! Thanks for the help/suggestions! If you are using ssh with unison, are you using the KeepAlive yes option in your ssh configuration? If not, add it, and your connection should not close from inactivity. If you are using direct sockets, unison will use a keepalive so it can timeout if the communication link is broken. How long is unison taking to check for changes? I can usually reconcile changes in my home directory (approximately 45G, 125,000 files) in less than 10-15 seconds between my slow laptop drive and a remote machine. However, if you are syncing with a Windows machine, expect the sync to be much slower. Fast checking is not safe on Windows, as unison can miss changes, so it scans every file every time unless you tell it otherwise. Regards, Brandon Vargo
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
Nitin Kanaskar wrote: Thanks a lot Dale for your help. But I would go for other OS - debian, opensuse, fedora...- or recent gentoo releases. Thanks a lot all of you for your inputs. How about a Mandrake 9.1? I may have that as well. LOL It's just a thought. I'm a pack rat so I keep everything, some time to much everything. I do flush tho. o_O Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo older versions
Thank you so much Dale again - but i would try to follow links given by Neil - thank you Neil - and chk in the cvs repositories. Really appreciate your willingness to help. On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Nitin Kanaskar wrote: Thanks a lot Dale for your help. But I would go for other OS - debian, opensuse, fedora...- or recent gentoo releases. Thanks a lot all of you for your inputs. How about a Mandrake 9.1? I may have that as well. LOL It's just a thought. I'm a pack rat so I keep everything, some time to much everything. I do flush tho. o_O Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] sync'ing two computers (not related to emerge)
If you are using ssh with unison, are you using the KeepAlive yes option in your ssh configuration? If not, add it, and your connection should not close from inactivity. If you are using direct sockets, unison will use a keepalive so it can timeout if the communication link is broken. Well i was using it, but i found out the option was commented out on my host's config... i set it to yes and trying again now... will have results in a few mins How long is unison taking to check for changes? I can usually reconcile changes in my home directory (approximately 45G, 125,000 files) in less than 10-15 seconds between my slow laptop drive and a remote machine. However, if you are syncing with a Windows machine, expect the sync to be much slower. Fast checking is not safe on Windows, as unison can miss changes, so it scans every file every time unless you tell it otherwise. Well, the problem seems to be with my /usr/portage that had not been sync'ed for a long time (i guess it has to make thorough difference checking?). So there is lots of files to check. It really takes minutes to scan for changes, i'm timing this run, if it fails i'll post how long it takes to do the whole scan until it starts transfering and finds out it got timed out. Sync'ing is done from linux to linux. The problem is really hardware related; i'm thinking on getting a new portable HD, but since i'm about to loose my job,i might want to wait! ;) Thanks!
Re: [gentoo-user] crazy KDE4 panel
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Gaydenko a...@gaydenko.com wrote: On Saturday 02 May 2009 16:23:48 Stroller wrote: On 2 May 2009, at 09:39, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: ... Looks like an overheating GPU to me. Do you have accelerated graphics on for those panels? I'll bet if you turn it off the problem will disappear. Say, bottom panel hasn't something special: std menu, lancelot, tasks, tray and clock. Can overheating be such selectable? - I mean only KDE4 panels- related problem takes place (say, my sone plays few games without any problems, as well as, say, OOo/Qt/KDE and so on emerging ). And I didn't overclocked something. But have added few additional silent coolers inside a case :-) Can overheating be so selective? I can't say for sure, but I can't see it having so much work to do when displaying the wallpaper as if those panels fade or slide. I presume they can be auto-hidden one way or the other when not in use, and that effects would be enabled by default if you have GPU acceleration available. Speckles are somewhat characteristic, and most any videogamer will recognise them - once you've had a graphics card or a Playstation (type) console die on you, they are very recognisable. The emerging won't have any effect on speckles, only GPU-related activity. It depends on the particular games that your son plays whether I'd say they're relevant. I'm no expert on Linux graphics (I don't use it on the desktop myself), but I'd guess TuxRacer probably does use the GPU whereas Frozen Bubble does not. If you're able to turn the GPU's acceleration features off in X11 (or the kernel?) and just treat it as a framebuffer device, then please prove me wrong! Stroller. OK, as Stroller has suggested, I have cleaned heatsink, replaced heat- conducting paste and so on. Now it would be nice to have something for quick GPU load testing (instead of long-long KDE session). Can anybody suggest an appropriate sw or, may be, some game with hard and heavy (wrt GPU load) demo? use the overclocking tweaks in nvidia-settings to blow it up :P
Re: [gentoo-user] crazy KDE4 panel
Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Gaydenko a...@gaydenko.com wrote: OK, as Stroller has suggested, I have cleaned heatsink, replaced heat- conducting paste and so on. Now it would be nice to have something for quick GPU load testing (instead of long-long KDE session). Can anybody suggest an appropriate sw or, may be, some game with hard and heavy (wrt GPU load) demo? use the overclocking tweaks in nvidia-settings to blow it up :P You may can use glxgears or some other test program for your card. I know glxgears works mine pretty good here. Even about maxes out my CPU. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] crazy KDE4 panel
On Sonntag 03 Mai 2009, Dale wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Gaydenko a...@gaydenko.com wrote: OK, as Stroller has suggested, I have cleaned heatsink, replaced heat- conducting paste and so on. Now it would be nice to have something for quick GPU load testing (instead of long-long KDE session). Can anybody suggest an appropriate sw or, may be, some game with hard and heavy (wrt GPU load) demo? use the overclocking tweaks in nvidia-settings to blow it up :P You may can use glxgears or some other test program for your card. I know glxgears works mine pretty good here. Even about maxes out my CPU. Dale :-) :-) that is pretty much the only thing it does - maxing the cpu. There are the ut demos in portage. They stress the card. Or some other fps. Vegastrike, not in portage, installed from svn is an incredible load for every card.
[gentoo-user] Re: crazy KDE4 panel
Andrew Gaydenko wrote: OK, as Stroller has suggested, I have cleaned heatsink, replaced heat- conducting paste and so on. Now it would be nice to have something for quick GPU load testing (instead of long-long KDE session). Can anybody suggest an appropriate sw or, may be, some game with hard and heavy (wrt GPU load) demo? Look into the Phoronix Test suite. It has graphics benchmarks too. So pick your poison and hope it won't fry (which is something NVidias sometimes love to do, heh heh.)
Re: [gentoo-user] crazy KDE4 panel
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 03 Mai 2009, Dale wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Gaydenko a...@gaydenko.com wrote: OK, as Stroller has suggested, I have cleaned heatsink, replaced heat- conducting paste and so on. Now it would be nice to have something for quick GPU load testing (instead of long-long KDE session). Can anybody suggest an appropriate sw or, may be, some game with hard and heavy (wrt GPU load) demo? use the overclocking tweaks in nvidia-settings to blow it up :P You may can use glxgears or some other test program for your card. I know glxgears works mine pretty good here. Even about maxes out my CPU. Dale :-) :-) that is pretty much the only thing it does - maxing the cpu. There are the ut demos in portage. They stress the card. Or some other fps. Vegastrike, not in portage, installed from svn is an incredible load for every card. I thought glxgears was a GPU test not a CPU test. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] unable to login to user account or do su - username
Hello, After a system/world update my user account dealmeida cannot be logged to or root cannot su to it. When su - dealmeida is issued at the root command prompt, it immediately returns to root. When login is at the console the motd appears (twice; why?) and then the session is closed. In the /var/log/messages I get May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: Successful su for dealmeida by root May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: + pts/1 root:dealmeida May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: pam_unix(su:session): session opened for user dealmeida by root(uid=0) May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: pam_unix(su:session): session closed for user dealmeida No other account has this problem. Any ideas? Thanks, -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] crazy KDE4 panel
On Sonntag 03 Mai 2009, Dale wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 03 Mai 2009, Dale wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Gaydenko a...@gaydenko.com wrote: OK, as Stroller has suggested, I have cleaned heatsink, replaced heat- conducting paste and so on. Now it would be nice to have something for quick GPU load testing (instead of long-long KDE session). Can anybody suggest an appropriate sw or, may be, some game with hard and heavy (wrt GPU load) demo? use the overclocking tweaks in nvidia-settings to blow it up :P You may can use glxgears or some other test program for your card. I know glxgears works mine pretty good here. Even about maxes out my CPU. Dale :-) :-) that is pretty much the only thing it does - maxing the cpu. There are the ut demos in portage. They stress the card. Or some other fps. Vegastrike, not in portage, installed from svn is an incredible load for every card. I thought glxgears was a GPU test not a CPU test. it tests almost nothing from the gpu - and the resulting fps are very depent on the CPU.. so...
Re: [gentoo-user] unable to login to user account or do su - username
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, After a system/world update my user account dealmeida cannot be logged to or root cannot su to it. When su - dealmeida is issued at the root command prompt, it immediately returns to root. When login is at the console the motd appears (twice; why?) and then the session is closed. In the /var/log/messages I get May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: Successful su for dealmeida by root May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: + pts/1 root:dealmeida May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: pam_unix(su:session): session opened for user dealmeida by root(uid=0) May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: pam_unix(su:session): session closed for user dealmeida No other account has this problem. Any ideas? Thanks, Is the user's shell set properly?
Re: [gentoo-user] unable to login to user account or do su - username
Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, After a system/world update my user account dealmeida cannot be logged to or root cannot su to it. When su - dealmeida is issued at the root command prompt, it immediately returns to root. When login is at the console the motd appears (twice; why?) and then the session is closed. In the /var/log/messages I get May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: Successful su for dealmeida by root May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: + pts/1 root:dealmeida May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: pam_unix(su:session): session opened for user dealmeida by root(uid=0) May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: pam_unix(su:session): session closed for user dealmeida No other account has this problem. Any ideas? Thanks, Is the user's shell set properly? I made no changes in the account and looked over the . startup files; they look okay. Also, the output of password -S dealmeida are fine. Still puzzled why motd appears twice even at root login. Thanks -- Valmor
[gentoo-user] Re: any gentoo mutt users?
On 2009-05-02, James j...@nc.rr.com wrote: Thanks for the response Grant and Willie! I'm not sure that the xfce4 mail watch plugin is going to be helpful. I currently have mutt configured as an IMAP client and I have yet to find a tool that can poll individual folders (or mailboxes) on a remote IMAP system. Gbuffy, gkrellm, and the XFCE mailwatch plugin can all do that. One more complaint about the XFCE mailwatch plugin is that it opens/closes a new connection every time it polls the mailbox. It would be way less load on the network (and both hosts involved) if it kept the connection open and used the idle command. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] unable to login to user account or do su - username
On Sat, 02 May 2009 20:52:39 -0400 Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: After a system/world update my user account dealmeida cannot be logged to or root cannot su to it. When su - dealmeida is issued at the root command prompt, it immediately returns to root. When login is at the console the motd appears (twice; why?) and then the session is closed. In the /var/log/messages I get May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: Successful su for dealmeida by root May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: + pts/1 root:dealmeida May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: pam_unix(su:session): session opened for user dealmeida by root(uid=0) May 2 20:42:35 xeon0 su[29286]: pam_unix(su:session): session closed for user dealmeida No other account has this problem. Any ideas? I don't know about motd, but the rest looks like pam problem to me, if you're using pam, of course. Try 'euse -i pam' to see if it's enabled. If that's the case, first of all I'd suggest to check etc-update. Then look through /etc/pam.d, especially system-* files. There you can remove some of the required (for successfull authentication) modules, so their failure won't affect the process. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sync'ing two computers (not related to emerge)
On 2 May 2009, at 22:33, Simon wrote: ... I've been using unison to synchronise and backup my computers. unison is based on rsync IIRC but with the difference that it 'remembers' the state of the folder that was synchronised. This way, if I delete a file on A, when sync'ing it will be deleted on B. While rsync would leave the file on B... I see rsync as a very good 'cp' program, but I need something that can deal with conflicts (file changed on both hosts/directories) and can propagate changes like deletes properly. ... http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5976 http://kitenet.net/~joey/svnhome/ http://www.google.com/search?q=homedir+version+control Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] any gentoo mutt users?
Alan, Thanks for the response. :) I've thought about doing something similar to this, but it's a last resort. I end up using mutt on various different workstations and it'd be nice to run everything locally. Obviously a solution where I'm fetching mail on every machine where I'm using mutt doesn't scale very well. It's certainly an alternative, however, if I can't find anything else that works. -j On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 03 May 2009 00:00:13 James wrote: I must admit that Thunderbird is pretty good about keeping tabs on the many mailboxes I have and updating me when something new pops up. From what I've been told, gbuffy is one of the few tools that actually does what I'm looking for, but as Grant mentioned it won't compile successfully (at least not using the ebuild in the portage tree). Any thoughts on how to do this when using IMAP and lots of folders? :) How about this, thinking slightly out the box: Pop your mail to a local maildir, but do not delete mails from the server. Run a local IMAP server with that maildir as it's source and point your mail client at it Getmail is excellent at popping like this, it works in the background and you can use whatever filtering tool you fancy. If you need mails more immediately than within three minutes you really should be using jabber instead :-) With local IMAP you can change mail clients in an instant without mucking about with all that tedious import/export stuff. And every mailbox monitoring tool out there will monitor local maildirs and do it well. With this you get all the benefits of IMAP, albeit in a sort of disconnected fashion, and you only suffer the bandwidth hit with large mails once. Your mails are still on the server, so you can still connect to them with IMAP if you wish. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: any gentoo mutt users?
Grant, I've tried gbuffy but something breaks during the emerge. I've been tinkering with it but gave up a bit earlier (likely out of sheer laziness ;)). I don't really use gkrellm so I'd rather not start mucking with it. I actually do use xfce4, so I may give the mailwatch plugin a try. Certainly lame that it opens a new connection every time it polls, but maybe that's something I can tweak in the code if I settle. What do you use to poll, Grant? Gbuffy? -j On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-05-02, James j...@nc.rr.com wrote: Thanks for the response Grant and Willie! I'm not sure that the xfce4 mail watch plugin is going to be helpful. I currently have mutt configured as an IMAP client and I have yet to find a tool that can poll individual folders (or mailboxes) on a remote IMAP system. Gbuffy, gkrellm, and the XFCE mailwatch plugin can all do that. One more complaint about the XFCE mailwatch plugin is that it opens/closes a new connection every time it polls the mailbox. It would be way less load on the network (and both hosts involved) if it kept the connection open and used the idle command. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving an installed system to RAID10
Jim Cunning wrote: RAID10 = RAID1+0. It works fine with 2 disks. I was able to create it first with one drive missing and then add the second, which sync'ed without problems. Question is not does it work, question is does it make any sense? You can either create raid0 strip with two partitions on the same disk (e.g. sda1+sda2) and mirror that rai0-strip on the second drive, but where is then your performance gain you'd expect from raid0? Or you can create raid0 with partitions on both drives (sda1+sdb1) and mirror it on the second set of partitions on the same drives. But then you do not have any protection from total disk failure you'd normally expect from raid1. Only some very little protection against a sector failure. Plus two equally strange configurations where you first create raid1-mirrors and then strip them to raid0. Doing raid10 (or raid01) with only 2 disks is imho not a good idea... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
