Re: [gentoo-user] nagging USE flag question
Ric de France wrote: 2009/5/19 Kevin Coetzee kdcoet...@gmail.com mailto:kdcoet...@gmail.com Adam Carter wrote: The time has come to edit make.conf on my new gentoo-netbook. But one thing has always bothered me: What's the point of specifying a *negative* flag with a hyphen? Why not just leave the flags you don't use out of the file entirely? Some flags are on by default, so this stops their use. example, I use openbox , so don't need gnome or kde support. I haven't got access to my Gentoo box, but from memory, /etc/make.profile I think is a symbolic link to another file that contains all the default make flags. One way to determine the flags is running: /usr/portage/profiles/targets/desktop/make.defaults $ emerge --info It should list the USE-flags on your system, allowing you to find out any extras that may have been set that you may want to - away. HTH... ...Ric -- Ric de France Ph: +61412945554 (international) or 0412945554 (Australia) == Do you, uh... Gentoo? Gent-hooo!! == == http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml == -- Kevin Coetzee kevin.blogs.uls.co.za
[gentoo-user] chronyd troubleshooting
A couple of days ago chronyd stopped functioning. This is all that the logs tell me but I don't know what I can do to fix it: = May 19 06:25:13 lappy chronyd[6756]: chronyd version 1.23 starting May 19 06:25:14 lappy chronyd[6756]: Set system time, error in RTC = -306.664140 May 19 06:25:14 lappy chronyd[6756]: Set system time, error in RTC = -306.664140 May 19 06:30:20 lappy chronyd[6756]: Initial txc.tick=1 txc.freq=0 (0.) txc.offset=0 = hz=100 shift_hz=7 May 19 06:30:20 lappy chronyd[6756]: Initial txc.tick=1 txc.freq=0 (0.) txc.offset=0 = hz=100 shift_hz=7 May 19 06:30:20 lappy chronyd[6756]: set_config_hz=0 hz=100 shift_hz=7 basic_freq_scale=1.2800 nominal_tick=1 slew_delta_tick=833 max_tick_bias=1000 May 19 06:30:20 lappy chronyd[6756]: set_config_hz=0 hz=100 shift_hz=7 basic_freq_scale=1.2800 nominal_tick=1 slew_delta_tick=833 max_tick_bias=1000 May 19 06:30:20 lappy chronyd[6756]: Linux kernel major=2 minor=6 patch=28 May 19 06:30:20 lappy chronyd[6756]: Linux kernel major=2 minor=6 patch=28 May 19 06:30:20 lappy chronyd[6756]: calculated_freq_scale=0.99902439 freq_scale=0.99902439 May 19 06:30:20 lappy chronyd[6756]: calculated_freq_scale=0.99902439 freq_scale=0.99902439 May 19 06:30:20 lappy chronyd[6756]: Could not start measurement : Inappropriate ioctl for device May 19 06:30:20 lappy chronyd[6756]: Could not read flags /dev/rtc : Input/output error May 19 06:30:20 lappy chronyd[6756]: Could not stop measurement : Inappropriate ioctl for device = # ls -al /dev/rtc crw-r--r-- 1 root root 10, 135 May 19 06:24 /dev/rtc When I try to check /dev/rtc I get: # cat /dev/rtc cat: /dev/rtc: Input/output error I should be getting resource busy instead. I suspect that this problem started when I changed my kernel to 2.6.28-r5. I noticed it comes up with a APIC error on booting, could this be related? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] query dependency on a slotted package
Hi, how can I find which packages depends on sys-devel/gcc:4.2 (Unfortunately, equery seems to ignore the slot) Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] query dependency on a slotted package
Helmut Jarausch schrieb: Hi, how can I find which packages depends on sys-devel/gcc:4.2 (Unfortunately, equery seems to ignore the slot) Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. qgrep -v sys-devel/gcc:4.2 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] query dependency on a slotted package
On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:19:57 +0200 (CEST), Helmut Jarausch wrote: how can I find which packages depends on sys-devel/gcc:4.2 emerge --depclean -pv sys-devel/gcc:4.2 -- Neil Bothwick A good pun is its own reword. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Why still postgres 8.2?
Konstantinos Agouros elwood at agouros.de writes: yes I know I could use ~ in package.keywords. But is there a good reason why postgres is still @8.0 and not at least 8.2? Dunno However, now that Oracle owns mysql, maybe, just maybe, postgresql will get a little bit more attention, across the net and here at Gentoo My prediction is that Oracle is going to do every thing it can to cause Mysql to lanquish.. ymmv, James
[gentoo-user] What has bash_compleion done to me, and I to it?
I used to not know about bash completion, and all was fine. Then I read a bit about it and gave it a try, and all was still fine, and pretty handy. But somewhere along the way, bash completion has screwed up, and now various things which used to work before bash completion no longer work. Such as cd $WWW/tab where $WWW is one of my shell env vars. It just dings, refuses to complete. I have to cd $WWW then cd again. Or vi `ls /usr/porttab` It won't complete anything inside back quotes. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] What has bash_compleion done to me, and I to it?
On Tue, 19 May 2009 08:24:57 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I used to not know about bash completion, and all was fine. Then I read a bit about it and gave it a try, and all was still fine, and pretty handy. But somewhere along the way, bash completion has screwed up, and now various things which used to work before bash completion no longer work. Such as cd $WWW/tab where $WWW is one of my shell env vars. It just dings, refuses to complete. I have to cd $WWW then cd again. Or vi `ls /usr/porttab` It won't complete anything inside back quotes. Which version of bash-completion do you use ? If it is 0.20081219-r1 or earlier, configuration has change as notified by ELOG summary after updating it, now you need to use eselect to enable bash-completion. Try as root : eselect bashcomp enable --global base and eselect bashcomp enable --global gentoo to get some basics... As a normal user, remove the --global switch. HTH. -- Xavier Parizet YaGB : http://gentooist.com GPG :DC81 6FEE 6EBE FCE4 1C18 202F E575 4A5D 036D 1408
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why still postgres 8.2?
James wrote: However, now that Oracle owns mysql, maybe, just maybe, postgresql will get a little bit more attention, across the net and here at Gentoo My prediction is that Oracle is going to do every thing it can to cause Mysql to lanquish.. That probably doesn't matter considering all of the existing flavors/forks of MySQL that have existed since Sun bought MySQL. IIRC, Monty has already started a new consortium for maintaining compatibility between all of these flavors. Aaron
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel
Alan McKinnon ha scritto: On Monday 18 May 2009 22:14:43 bn wrote: If you use Ubuntu, you've got to accept their eccentric questionable attitude to passwords, esp that they don't have a separate root password. I find that a piece of cheap popularisation contrary to UNIX principles. Huh? The package you are talking about is sudo. Might I add that sudo follows the grand time honoured tradition of the principle of least priviledge whereas su does not? As far as I know it is not enough to just use sudo. When a GUI program requires admin privileges, it will usually ask the root password. On Ubuntu, it will instead sudo its privileges. That's the thing, I think Ubuntu patches its software to behave properly with its own sudo thing. But it's not a big deal, it's just a feature which made sense to me but I can live very happily also with the good old Unix way. m.
Re: [gentoo-user] What has bash_compleion done to me, and I to it?
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 05:37:10PM +0200, Xavier Parizet wrote: Which version of bash-completion do you use ? app-shells/bash-completion-1.0-r3 Try as root : eselect bashcomp enable --global base and eselect bashcomp enable --global gentoo to get some basics... As a normal user, remove the --global switch. I had already done that, but I did it again just to be sure -- Xyzzy=1;while [ $Xyzzy -lt 74 ]; do eselect bashcomp enable $Xyzzy --global; Xyzzy=`expr $Xyzzy + 1`; done and all came thru as already enabled. These completion errors I get are of two kinds: it does not work at all inside backquotes, and it doesn't work following env vars. It does work elsewhere, and does have a few foibles where programs don't recognize certain file types and I have to trick it, but generally it works as expected outside back quotes and without env vars. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] What has bash_completion done to me, and I to it?
On 19 May 2009, at 16:24, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I used to not know about bash completion, and all was fine. Then I read a bit about it and gave it a try, and all was still fine, and pretty handy. But somewhere along the way, bash completion has screwed up, and now various things which used to work before bash completion no longer work. ... My experience with Gentoo's extended bash completion has not been positive. After reading other posters negative comments in this thread, I just gave up on it. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/179589 Stroller.
[gentoo-user] partition-based backup/cloning tool...
Hi, is there some software for live partition backup/copying/cloning with raw/smart copying capabilities, like Acronis TrueImage, Norton Ghost or OO DiskImage in windows-world? Some of them should have linux version (e.g. clonezilla), but I did not find anything in portage... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] What has bash_completion done to me, and I to it?
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 05:51:43PM +0100, Stroller wrote: After reading other posters negative comments in this thread, I just gave up on it. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/179589 Heh ... I added a comment to that thread and hoped it owuld eventually be solved, but I guess not. Maybe it would be better to just dump it altogether. It doesn't provide a whole lot of vital functionality. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] MythTV backend on non-dedicated machine?
Does anybody have any experience with running a MythTV backend on a non-dedicated machine (a machine that's also used for software development, web-browsing, e-mail, etc.)? All of the info I find about split MythTV systems implies that the backend is a dedicated MythTV server. It seems like a waste to have both a backend server and my normal desktop machine running all the time -- both 99% idle. My tuner is a network-attached HDHR, so the backend isn't doing any real-time encoding. All it needs to to is shovel bytes between the network interface and the disk. I do plan on having a dedicated drive for MythTV recordings. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Kids, don't gross me at off ... Adventures with visi.comMENTAL HYGIENE can be carried too FAR!
Re: [gentoo-user] partition-based backup/cloning tool...
Am Dienstag, 19. Mai 2009 18:59:06 schrieb Jarry: is there some software for live partition backup/copying/cloning with raw/smart copying capabilities, like Acronis TrueImage, Norton Ghost or OO DiskImage in windows-world? What's wrong with dd? Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] MythTV backend on non-dedicated machine?
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:04 +, Grant Edwards wrote: Does anybody have any experience with running a MythTV backend on a non-dedicated machine (a machine that's also used for software development, web-browsing, e-mail, etc.)? All of the info I find about split MythTV systems implies that the backend is a dedicated MythTV server. It seems like a waste to have both a backend server and my normal desktop machine running all the time -- both 99% idle. My tuner is a network-attached HDHR, so the backend isn't doing any real-time encoding. All it needs to to is shovel bytes between the network interface and the disk. I do plan on having a dedicated drive for MythTV recordings. My MythTV setup has its own external 1TB drive for recordings, but it runs on my desktop machine. My tuner is a Hauppage WinTV PVR-250. Since I got the external drive for myth I can run other programs on the machine at the same time that Myth is recording, and it doesn't lose information in the recordings anymore. Recordings used to be skippy before I got the external drive, but now it works great. What did you want to know?
[gentoo-user] Cleaning up world
In a previous thread, I learned about keeping world simple with --oneshot. I realized how mine had gotten so bloated -- when I update, I edit the --pretend output and feed that directly into emerge without the benefit of --oneshot. So today I started a cleanup project. I began by moving world to world-bloated and running emerge --depclean -p just to see what would happen. The answer is ... a loop! There were a couple of missing or out of date packages and I emerged them. But libusb has to be 10.6 to make some packages happy and 10.7 to satisfy others. I have been down this route before. I don't feel like unmerging either side of the mess, and even if I didn't want the packages, it is way too much hassle to unmerge them one by one as the list of unhappy packages grows. So, what is the proper way to recreate a proper world file? If depclean can finally run one of these days when gentoo gets back in sync, is staring with an empty world file as good as anything else? The idea of trying to make intelligent guesses about which packages are truly top level, out of 3000+ packages, is not enticing. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] partition-based backup/cloning tool...
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: is there some software for live partition backup/copying/cloning with raw/smart copying capabilities, like Acronis TrueImage, Norton Ghost or OO DiskImage in windows-world? What's wrong with dd? Nothing. But this is what I expect from such a software: 1. backup of partition in use (sync disk, snapshot of partition) 2. smart copying (only sectors with data) 3. automatic partition recovery (including partition-table) Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up world
On Dienstag 19 Mai 2009, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: In a previous thread, I learned about keeping world simple with --oneshot. I realized how mine had gotten so bloated -- when I update, I edit the --pretend output and feed that directly into emerge without the benefit of --oneshot. So today I started a cleanup project. I began by moving world to world-bloated and running emerge --depclean -p just to see what would happen. The answer is ... a loop! There were a couple of missing or out of date packages and I emerged them. But libusb has to be 10.6 to make some packages happy and 10.7 to satisfy others. I have been down this route before. I don't feel like unmerging either side of the mess, and even if I didn't want the packages, it is way too much hassle to unmerge them one by one as the list of unhappy packages grows. So, what is the proper way to recreate a proper world file? If depclean can finally run one of these days when gentoo gets back in sync, is staring with an empty world file as good as anything else? The idea of trying to make intelligent guesses about which packages are truly top level, out of 3000+ packages, is not enticing. nano -w world remove everything you did not install. Oh, and why that --pretend and feed into emerge' crap? Just do -a and world will not be bloated at all.
[gentoo-user] Re: MythTV backend on non-dedicated machine?
On 2009-05-19, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:04 +, Grant Edwards wrote: Does anybody have any experience with running a MythTV backend on a non-dedicated machine (a machine that's also used for software development, web-browsing, e-mail, etc.)? ... My MythTV setup has its own external 1TB drive for recordings, but it runs on my desktop machine. My tuner is a Hauppage WinTV PVR-250. Since I got the external drive for myth I can run other programs on the machine at the same time that Myth is recording, and it doesn't lose information in the recordings anymore. Recordings used to be skippy before I got the external drive, but now it works great. What did you want to know? I just wanted to know if anybody was running a MythTV backend the way you are, and if they had any problems. Based on your experiences, it sounds like a non-dedicated machine with a dedicated drive works well enough. HD data rates are going to be higher than the PVR-250 (HD is 7-8GB/hour, and my '250 used to be about 1-1.5GB/hour), but that should still be handled easily enough. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! An INK-LING? Sure -- at TAKE one!! Did you BUY any visi.comCOMMUNIST UNIFORMS??
Re: [gentoo-user] partition-based backup/cloning tool...
On Tue, 19 May 2009 19:50:59 +0200, Jarry wrote: Nothing. But this is what I expect from such a software: 1. backup of partition in use (sync disk, snapshot of partition) 2. smart copying (only sectors with data) 3. automatic partition recovery (including partition-table) Then use LVM and tar. Otherwise, trying to backup an in-use partition can result in inconsistencies. -- Neil Bothwick Did you know that eskimos have 17 different words for linguist ? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up world
On Tue, 19 May 2009 10:32:01 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: So, what is the proper way to recreate a proper world file? If depclean can finally run one of these days when gentoo gets back in sync, is staring with an empty world file as good as anything else? No, starting with your existing world and removing packages, then running --declean is the way to do it. The idea of trying to make intelligent guesses about which packages are truly top level, out of 3000+ packages, is not enticing. It's not that hard, just remove anything you don't run yourself or as a startup service. Start by deleting any lib packages. -- Neil Bothwick furbling, v.: Having to wander through a maze of ropes at an airport or bank even when you are the only person in line. -- Rich Hall, Sniglets signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up world
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 19:32:01 fe...@crowfix.com wrote: In a previous thread, I learned about keeping world simple with --oneshot. I realized how mine had gotten so bloated -- when I update, I edit the --pretend output and feed that directly into emerge without the benefit of --oneshot. So today I started a cleanup project. I began by moving world to world-bloated and running emerge --depclean -p just to see what would happen. The answer is ... a loop! There were a couple of missing or out of date packages and I emerged them. But libusb has to be 10.6 to make some packages happy and 10.7 to satisfy others. I have been down this route before. I don't feel like unmerging either side of the mess, and even if I didn't want the packages, it is way too much hassle to unmerge them one by one as the list of unhappy packages grows. So, what is the proper way to recreate a proper world file? If depclean can finally run one of these days when gentoo gets back in sync, is staring with an empty world file as good as anything else? The idea of trying to make intelligent guesses about which packages are truly top level, out of 3000+ packages, is not enticing. Step 1 is to make sure the machine is up to date - emerge -avuND world Otherwise you are trying to take things out and portage is trying to put things in - confusing. Then satisfy the blockers like that issue with libusb, but chances are emerge world fixed that already. Edit the world file and remove every version number in that file if present. You don;t need it and portage is infinitely better at tracking it than you are. Then remove everything with a category ending in lib, these rarely need to be in world. Periodically run emerge -av --depclean adding things back to world that you do want - it's a rinse and repeat process. If you use kde and gnome, I'll bet you have every package listed. Remove them all and add kde-meta or gnome back in (or maybe the @kde set if you use that). Let portage worry about dependencies. By now you should be getting the idea that there's no easy way to recreate a minimum world file from an existing system. eix-test-obsolete looks like it ought to do this, but unfortunately doesn't. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] What has bash_completion done to me, and I to it?
On 19 May 2009, at 18:04, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 05:51:43PM +0100, Stroller wrote: After reading other posters negative comments in this thread, I just gave up on it. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/179589 Heh ... I added a comment to that thread and hoped it owuld eventually be solved, but I guess not. Maybe it would be better to just dump it altogether. It doesn't provide a whole lot of vital functionality. Yeah, I meant to say in my previous post that I think the best approach is to set USE=-bash-completion in make.conf when the system in installed, and then never change it. On a system which I changed from bash-completion to -bash-completion, it just kinda seems like it's still not right sometime later. I'm sure it's possible to remove all residue remnants of Gentoo's bash completion hack, but I have no idea where it's all stored. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up world
On Tue, 19 May 2009 10:32:01 -0700 fe...@crowfix.com wrote: In a previous thread, I learned about keeping world simple with --oneshot. I realized how mine had gotten so bloated -- when I update, I edit the --pretend output and feed that directly into emerge without the benefit of --oneshot. So today I started a cleanup project. I began by moving world to world-bloated and running emerge --depclean -p just to see what would happen. The answer is ... a loop! There were a couple of missing or out of date packages and I emerged them. But libusb has to be 10.6 to make some packages happy and 10.7 to satisfy others. I have been down this route before. I don't feel like unmerging either side of the mess, and even if I didn't want the packages, it is way too much hassle to unmerge them one by one as the list of unhappy packages grows. So, what is the proper way to recreate a proper world file? If depclean can finally run one of these days when gentoo gets back in sync, is staring with an empty world file as good as anything else? The idea of trying to make intelligent guesses about which packages are truly top level, out of 3000+ packages, is not enticing. QUICK DIRTY: emerge autounmask autounmask =app-portage/udept-0.5.99.0.2.95-r1 dep -w About the dirty part. Don't use dep for anything else. It's masked for a good reason - it's outdated and doesn't work with current portage versions. -w is the only feature I use and it works for me. Use at your own risk, make a backup of the world file, etc... -- Best regards, Daniel
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up world
On 19 May 2009, at 18:32, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: ... So today I started a cleanup project. I began by moving world to world-bloated and running emerge --depclean -p just to see what would happen. The answer is ... a loop! It appears you no longer have a world file (because you moved it, rather than copying). I would copy it then, as Volker suggests, edit the original. There were a couple of missing or out of date packages and I emerged them. But libusb has to be 10.6 to make some packages happy and 10.7 to satisfy others. If this is _really_ the case, then look at the packages that need 1.6. Look at the later, ~x86 or masked, versions of them and find one that supports 1.7. Unmask that emerge it. As Alan hints at (Edit the world file and remove every version number in that file if present), I think you might find that you don't really have any packages that won't support later than 1.6. Perhaps you just have 1.6 pinned in your world file, or you have an older version of a package (which has since been upgraded to support 1.7) pinned. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to IPSEC M$oft VPN client setup
On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:07:33 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 17 May 2009, Mick wrote: Thanks Graham, On Saturday 16 May 2009, Graham Murray wrote: Here are some samples. [8] The more I try to use VPN the more I love SSH! http://bugs.gentoo.org/87920 Mick -- This is a *very* old bug. But it still happens. WTF... I see you linked to a related bug here in the ML, but you didn't file/reopen a bug. (Is there a reason why?) Anyway, it would appear like there is no Gentoo dev-loving on these packages, so maybe it would be a waste... For myself, I have zero desire to understand VPN technology, but I guess that's not an option if the devs aren't active in making sane choices for, and presenting viable options to, the users. :( So can we agree on the combination of packages that are *supposed* to provide this VPN-IPSEC-L2TP function? The only thing vaguely M$FT about this setup is MS-CHAP. And L2TP, perhaps. (At least, in so far as I understand this crap, that's my conclusion.) I have: net-firewall/ipsec-tools net-dialup/xl2tpd net-dialup/ppp --is this needed? I don't have * net-misc/openswan ... since that seems to be an alternative to ipsec-tools (KAME). (Or, vice-versa. I'm totally getting sick of reading about VPN.) Is there some other package that should be needed to make this all work? Do I need ppp at all? Isn't XL2TPD the full replacement? Anyway, since there doesn't appear to be a Gentoo document for this, I'd be totally willing to take up space on the ML until both of us have this working. Here, I begin: . . . /etc/init.d/xl2tpd start * Starting xl2tpd ...[ ok ] May 19 10:25:04 lappy xl2tpd[5179]: setsockopt recvref[22]: Protocol not available May 19 10:25:04 lappy xl2tpd[5179]: This binary does not support kernel L2TP. May 19 10:25:04 lappy xl2tpd[5180]: xl2tpd version xl2tpd-1.2.3 started on lappy PID:5180 May 19 10:25:04 lappy xl2tpd[5180]: Written by Mark Spencer, Copyright (C) 1998, Adtran, Inc. May 19 10:25:04 lappy xl2tpd[5180]: Forked by Scott Balmos and David Stipp, (C) 2001 May 19 10:25:04 lappy xl2tpd[5180]: Inherited by Jeff McAdams, (C) 2002 May 19 10:25:04 lappy xl2tpd[5180]: Forked again by Xelerance (www.xelerance.com) (C) 2006 May 19 10:25:04 lappy xl2tpd[5180]: Listening on IP address 0.0.0.0, port 1701 So far, there are no errors. (The warning about *kernel* L2TP is a warning, so I understand, not a failure.) /etc/init.d/racoon start * Loading ipsec policies from /etc/ipsec.conf. * Starting racoon ...[ ok ] May 19 10:27:11 lappy hald [ loads additional crypt modules ] Module Size Used by twofish 5568 0 twofish_common 12672 1 twofish serpent15936 0 blowfish7104 0 sha256_generic 10240 0 May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: INFO: @(#)ipsec-tools 0.7.2 (http://ipsec-tools.sourceforge.net) May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: INFO: @(#)This product linked OpenSSL 0.9.8k 25 Mar 2009 (http://www.openssl.org/) May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: INFO: Reading configuration from /etc/racoon/racoon.conf May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: call pfkey_send_register for AH May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: call pfkey_send_register for ESP May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: call pfkey_send_register for IPCOMP May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: reading config file /etc/racoon/racoon.conf May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG2: lifetime = 3600 May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG2: lifebyte = 0 May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG2: encklen=0 May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG2: p:1 t:1 May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG2: 3DES-CBC(5) May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG2: SHA(2) May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG2: 1024-bit MODP group(2) May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG2: pre-shared key(1) May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG2: May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: compression algorithm can not be checked because sadb message doesn't support it. [ And there is only 'deflate' available anyway... ?? ] May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: getsainfo params: loc='ANONYMOUS', rmt='ANONYMOUS', peer='NULL', id=0 May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: getsainfo pass #2 May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG2: parse successed. May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: open /var/lib/racoon/racoon.sock as racoon management. May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: my interface: 192.168.1.100 (wlan0) May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: my interface: 127.0.0.1 (lo) May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: configuring default isakmp port. May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: NOTIFY: NAT-T is enabled, autoconfiguring ports May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: DEBUG: 4 addrs are configured successfully May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: INFO: 127.0.0.1[500] used as isakmp port (fd=7) May 19 10:27:12 lappy racoon: INFO: 127.0.0.1[500] used for NAT-T May 19 10:27:12 lappy
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up world
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 07:55:23PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Oh, and why that --pretend and feed into emerge' crap? Just do -a and world will not be bloated at all. Because I don't always want it to upgrade everything it wants to. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] partition-based backup/cloning tool...
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2009 19:50:59 +0200, Jarry wrote: Nothing. But this is what I expect from such a software: 1. backup of partition in use (sync disk, snapshot of partition) 2. smart copying (only sectors with data) 3. automatic partition recovery (including partition-table) Then use LVM and tar. Otherwise, trying to backup an in-use partition can result in inconsistencies. I'm using OO DiskImage with WinXP, and never had any inconsistency while doing backup of live partition. I'd like to have the same possibility with linux. But maybe I simply expect too much... Concerning LVM: IIRC it is not recommended to use lvm for /boot or / partition (maybe this has changed since I tested lvm last time). And finally, tar is file-based backup/recovery tool. It does not take care of partition table (sizes, flags, names, etc) nor for boot loader. And it is less comfortable, you must exclude some directories (/proc, /dev). What I need is a tool which can quickly and easily backup/restore the whole disk. Fully automatic action is highly prefered. I think partition-based backup/cloning software is better suited for this... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up world
fe...@crowfix.com schrieb am 19.05.2009 20:25: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 07:55:23PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Oh, and why that --pretend and feed into emerge' crap? Just do -a and world will not be bloated at all. Because I don't always want it to upgrade everything it wants to. Another quick thing would be copying the world file to a temporary location and run regenworld. The created world file is not minimal but in your case if you have still a few hundred entries in world the world will be cut down a bit. -- Daniel Pielmeier signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re[2]: [gentoo-user] partition-based backup/cloning tool...
Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 9:28:44 PM, Jarry wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2009 19:50:59 +0200, Jarry wrote: Nothing. But this is what I expect from such a software: 1. backup of partition in use (sync disk, snapshot of partition) 2. smart copying (only sectors with data) 3. automatic partition recovery (including partition-table) Then use LVM and tar. Otherwise, trying to backup an in-use partition can result in inconsistencies. I'm using OO DiskImage with WinXP, and never had any inconsistency while doing backup of live partition. I'd like to have the same possibility with linux. But maybe I simply expect too much... Concerning LVM: IIRC it is not recommended to use lvm for /boot or / partition (maybe this has changed since I tested lvm last time). And finally, tar is file-based backup/recovery tool. It does not take care of partition table (sizes, flags, names, etc) nor for boot loader. And it is less comfortable, you must exclude some directories (/proc, /dev). What I need is a tool which can quickly and easily backup/restore the whole disk. Fully automatic action is highly prefered. I think partition-based backup/cloning software is better suited for this... snapshots + rsync? Jarry -- Sergey
Re: [gentoo-user] How to IPSEC M$oft VPN client setup
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org wrote: My next step is to get on the phone with the folks who have access to the checkpoint VPN device to see if they can tell me what fails. Based on a brief googling I didn't see anyone who has a working connection to a Checkpoint VPN. They (used to?) have a linux version of their Checkpoint Securemote client but that seems to be gone from their site now with only Windows and Mac OS X versions showing. The accepted solution seemed to be to use SSH to tunnel your traffic through a Windows machine (either real or virtual) which is connected to the VPN.
Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up world
On Dienstag 19 Mai 2009, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 07:55:23PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Oh, and why that --pretend and feed into emerge' crap? Just do -a and world will not be bloated at all. Because I don't always want it to upgrade everything it wants to. then mask the stuff. Usually dependencies don't end up in world. But thanks to the stuff you do they did. Now you have a monster - starting to delete lines is a first step. Look into /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages. Everything in there must not be in your world file. Afterwards start the big deleting. You have gnome installed? Remove everything X11, glib, gtk from world. kde? qt does not belong there. With a little bit of thinking you can reduce world A LOT.
Re: [gentoo-user] more eee900a ?s
I haven't tried toggling the wireless, but the sleep key and power button can be used with ACPI and sys-power/hibernate-script. % cat /etc/acpi/events/sleep I did an emerge of acpi but it didn't create anything in /etc. Did you make them by hand? Maxim __ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
Re: [gentoo-user] How to IPSEC M$oft VPN client setup
On Tue, 19 May 2009 13:57:21 -0500 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Based on a brief googling I didn't see anyone who has a working connection to a Checkpoint VPN. Thanks, Paul. I've already the solution, as I'm not so much trying to get something accomplished (access machines inside which I can do just fine with SSH tunnel), as to figure out why we have these various, related, open source software packages available but no basic client-to-corporate real-world implementations specifically outlined for the Gentoo community -- that I can find. :( Just a definitive answer to which Gentoo packages and USE flags to I need to emerge so to do this? .. would be a HUGE help (as weeks later I *still* don't know for sure). And if 60%+ of the folks following it got lucky with cut-n-paste from a how-to, then... great! Say if all the related items were configured, tested and ultimately failed, if documented publicly it'd at the least serve as a good template for anyone else trying to troubleshoot a VPN connection when using Gentoo on a client machine. Or, should I instead, just go outside and play? I thought someone else here had hoped to make something like this work... ;-) Anyway, thanks again for taking a look. Cheers, -- |\ /|| | ~ ~ | \/ ||---| `|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael.higgins[at]evolone[dot]org
Re: [gentoo-user] How to IPSEC M$oft VPN client setup
On Tuesday 19 May 2009, Michael Higgins wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2009 13:57:21 -0500 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Based on a brief googling I didn't see anyone who has a working connection to a Checkpoint VPN. Thanks, Paul. I've already the solution, as I'm not so much trying to get something accomplished (access machines inside which I can do just fine with SSH tunnel), as to figure out why we have these various, related, open source software packages available but no basic client-to-corporate real-world implementations specifically outlined for the Gentoo community -- that I can find. :( Just a definitive answer to which Gentoo packages and USE flags to I need to emerge so to do this? .. would be a HUGE help (as weeks later I *still* don't know for sure). And if 60%+ of the folks following it got lucky with cut-n-paste from a how-to, then... great! Say if all the related items were configured, tested and ultimately failed, if documented publicly it'd at the least serve as a good template for anyone else trying to troubleshoot a VPN connection when using Gentoo on a client machine. Or, should I instead, just go outside and play? I thought someone else here had hoped to make something like this work... ;-) I very much share your frustration. On and off (OK, mostly off) I have been trying to get a VPN connection to my router going, and have tried vnpc, kvpn and racoon all of which failed. Meanwhile, a friend tried the shrew VPN client and succeeded after a couple of hours of tweaking his Vista box! Arrrgh! I assume that I have all the right components installed (judging from the wiki pages) but I am not sure about my configuration. Unlike your set up which seems to be almost there, mine won't even complete stage 1 handshake. Very, very, very frustrating ... Sorry that I can't be of much help with this. :( -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] portage2paludis question
Hi group, When the portage2paludis script completes it says I need to create /var/db/pkg/.cache and directories beneath it named after /etc/paludis/repositories. Under /etc/paludis/repositories there are gentoo.conf, installed.conf and layman.conf. Question: are these new dirs named gentoo OR gentoo.conf and so on for the other two? Maxim __ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/
Re: [gentoo-user] portage2paludis question
On Tue, 19 May 2009 14:38:21 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler bliss...@yahoo.com wrote: When the portage2paludis script completes it says I need to create /var/db/pkg/.cache... If you enable caching, you'll have to create '.cache' subdir (default name) in every used repository. ...and directories beneath it named after /etc/paludis/repositories. AFAIK it shouldn't ask such a thing, prehaps you read it wrong? All you need to do is to create a conf for /usr/portage and all the overlays you have in /etc/paludis/repositories, one for each, plus one for 'installed' repository at /var/db/pkg. In fact, portage2paludis should've done it for you, but you better check that every conf is correct, especially sync urls. Under /etc/paludis/repositories there are gentoo.conf, installed.conf and layman.conf. Question: are these new dirs named gentoo OR gentoo.conf and so on for the other two? You only need the dirs, specified in respective conf. gentoo.conf, created by po2pal script probably contains /usr/portage, and there should be /var/db/pkg in installed.conf, so you should have these already, but in order to use cache, you'll need to create '.cache' subdirs inside. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] partition-based backup/cloning tool...
On Tue, 19 May 2009 20:28:44 +0200, Jarry wrote: Then use LVM and tar. Otherwise, trying to backup an in-use partition can result in inconsistencies. I'm using OO DiskImage with WinXP, and never had any inconsistency while doing backup of live partition. I'd like to have the same possibility with linux. But maybe I simply expect too much... A live partition will, by definition, be changing, so how can you guarantee consistency? Concerning LVM: IIRC it is not recommended to use lvm for /boot or / partition (maybe this has changed since I tested lvm last time). Not for /boot, no, but for everything else. And finally, tar is file-based backup/recovery tool. It does not take care of partition table (sizes, flags, names, etc) nor for boot loader. With LVM, you don't need to worry about partition tables so much. You can use exclusively primary partitions, so those and the bootloader can be backed up with dd on the first 512 bytes of the disk. And it is less comfortable, you must exclude some directories (/proc, /dev). No, you just use the one-filesystem option to backup individual filesystems. What I need is a tool which can quickly and easily backup/restore the whole disk. Fully automatic action is highly prefered. I think partition-based backup/cloning software is better suited for this... Then you want something like Clonezilla, which you mentioned in your original post. It's not in portage because it's a live CD, and that's the only safe way to do a whole disk backup. -- Neil Bothwick Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] more eee900a ?s
On Tue, 19 May 2009 13:29:15 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote: I haven't tried toggling the wireless, but the sleep key and power button can be used with ACPI and sys-power/hibernate-script. % cat /etc/acpi/events/sleep I did an emerge of acpi but it didn't create anything in /etc. Did you make them by hand? You need to emerge acpid. The sleep script I showed was based on one of the examples included with acpid. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 22: Childproof signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to IPSEC M$oft VPN client setup
On Tue, 19 May 2009 22:08:10 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 19 May 2009, Michael Higgins wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2009 13:57:21 -0500 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Based on a brief googling I didn't see anyone who has a working connection to a Checkpoint VPN. Thanks, Paul. I've already the solution, as I'm not so much trying to get something accomplished (access machines inside which I can do just fine with SSH tunnel), as to figure out why we have these various, related, open source software packages available but no basic client-to-corporate real-world implementations specifically outlined for the Gentoo community -- that I can find. :( [...] Or, should I instead, just go outside and play? I thought someone else here had hoped to make something like this work... ;-) I very much share your frustration. On and off (OK, mostly off) I have been trying to get a VPN connection to my router going, and have tried vnpc, kvpn and racoon all of which failed. Meanwhile, a friend tried the shrew VPN client and succeeded after a couple of hours of tweaking his Vista box! Arrrgh! Yeah, I have no problem to get to working, with XP on VMWare. Naturally, I haven't given up. Seems like it's nearly there... also, there are some examples and docs installed. I assume that I have all the right components installed (judging from the wiki pages) Wiki pages? Hmm. Which ones? but I am not sure about my configuration. Unlike your set up which seems to be almost there, mine won't even complete stage 1 handshake. Very, very, very frustrating ... Well, racoon now claims it has started the connexion. It could have been as trivial as a trailing ' ' on my pre-shared secret. Or not... Either way, it's still not working... just a bit closer. racoonctl vc pub.vpn.ip.add VPN connexion established And still nothing useful happens. ping -c 1 192.168.243.140 PING 192.168.243.140 (192.168.243.140) 56(84) bytes of data. --- 192.168.243.140 ping statistics --- 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms And tons of debug info. Well, it's more than I had, but less than useful. Sorry that I can't be of much help with this. :( No worries. It seems like this really *should* be possible, though. I'll try to post my findings if I get it working. DEBUG: pfkey UPDATE succeeded: ESP/Tunnel pub.vpn.ip.add[0]-192.168.1.100[0] spi=53896550(0x3366566) May 19 16:00:21 lappy racoon: INFO: IPsec-SA established: ESP/Tunnel 198.145.243.130[0]-192.168.1.100[0] spi=53896550(0x3366566) May 19 16:00:21 lappy racoon: phase2(quick): 0.337284 May 19 16:00:21 lappy racoon: DEBUG: === May 19 16:00:21 lappy racoon: DEBUG: pk_recv: retry[0] recv() May 19 16:00:21 lappy racoon: DEBUG: get pfkey ADD message May 19 16:00:21 lappy racoon: INFO: IPsec-SA established: ESP/Tunnel 192.168.1.100[4500]-pub.vpn.ip.add[4500] spi=1021286747(0x3cdf995b) Not much showing for the failure to communicate, though. :( Cheers, -- |\ /|| | ~ ~ | \/ ||---| `|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael.higgins[at]evolone[dot]org
Re: [gentoo-user] partition-based backup/cloning tool...
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 23:56:48 Neil Bothwick wrote: it's a live CD, and that's the only safe way to do a whole disk backup. Well, no. I have a small rescue partition on each of my Gentoo boxes, not necessarily on the physical disk to be backed up. Quite useful from time to time, such as when doing backups. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] partition-based backup/cloning tool...
On Wed, 20 May 2009 00:31:32 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: it's a live CD, and that's the only safe way to do a whole disk backup. Well, no. I have a small rescue partition on each of my Gentoo boxes, not necessarily on the physical disk to be backed up. Quite useful from time to time, such as when doing backups. That's the same thing really,booting from a separate device. A USB stick would do as well, as would a network boot. -- Neil Bothwick Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] partition-based backup/cloning tool...
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 06:59:06PM +0200, Jarry wrote: Hi, is there some software for live partition backup/copying/cloning with raw/smart copying capabilities, like Acronis TrueImage, Norton Ghost or OO DiskImage in windows-world? Some of them should have linux version (e.g. clonezilla), but I did not find anything in portage... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted. Clonezilla?
Re: [gentoo-user] portage2paludis question
Question: are these new dirs named gentoo OR gentoo.conf and so on for the other two? Maxim Went ahead and named them just gentoo etc no .conf. And paludis --sync worked! But the dirs are empty. Would it have worked if I had added .conf to the dir names? mw __ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/
