[gentoo-user] DOSEMU 1.4.0.0 won't run as ordinary user anymore
I've been using a specific program that only works under DOSEMU. It worked great. Today, (after an update?) DOSEMU has stopped working as an ordinary user, but still works for root. Here's the screen capture == [d530][waltdnes][~] dosemu LOWRAM mmap: Permission denied Segmentation fault == I haven't seen the LOWRAM error before. I tried "/usr/bin/dosemu -s", but it refused both my password and the root password. I really don't like the concept of running as root for ordinary stuff. Is there a way I can run it without full root privileges? I haven't been able to figure out the magic incantation in /etc/sudoers. -- Walter Dnes
[gentoo-user] Re: radeon & xorg-server 1.6.3
On 08/28/2009 07:07 PM, James wrote: [...] What did I miss? elogv. Portage specifically told you to re-emerge all x11-drivers packages. So make sure to skim over all emerge messages with something like app-portage/elogv in order not miss anything important. In this case, portage told you: You must rebuild all drivers if upgrading from xorg-server 1.5 or earlier, because the ABI changed. If you cannot start X because of module version mismatch errors, this is your problem. You can generate a list of all installed packages in the x11-drivers category using this command: emerge portage-utils; qlist -I -C x11-drivers/
[gentoo-user] OT--ncmpcpp "Cannot connect"
Hi group, mpd starts OK and I created the database but whenever I start ncmpcpp I get: Cannot connect to mpd: problems connecting to "localhost" on port 6600: Connection refused. So far following "tips" from the web I've done rmmod ipv6, rmmod loop, stopped net.lo, added and subtracted '6600 localhost' to/from /etc/hosts and commented off and on the relevant lines in .ncmpcpp/config to no avail. Anybody got any ideas? Maxim
Re: [gentoo-user] Mythtv Segmentation fault
Possibly http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=272691
[gentoo-user] Solved Re: radeon & xorg-server 1.6.3
pk coolmail.se> writes: > an upgrade of the driver (x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati or perhaps > x11-drivers/xf86-video-radeonhd?). yep fixed thx
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
090828 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> Besides Fluxbox, I can recommend Xfce's Thunar & Terminal, > I've tested it, but Thunar, just as other Gtk file managers eg Nautilus, > not even come close to what Konqueror 3 has to offer. > Plus, their use (or rather) waste of screen space is exceptional. I use Krusader for heavy lifting. MC 4.7.0 sb out soon & they mb aiming for a really new MC 5 , which wb worth investigating. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] How to play quicktime (*.mov) videos with firefox
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > I'm having a heck of a time getting firefox setup so it can handle > quicktime videos. > > I understand I need mplayer to be installed but haven't been able to > emerge it. > I'm hoping someone will recognize what this problem is... I certainly > do not. But I do see others having trouble related to multi-core > machines and mplayer... So NOTE: my hardware is not Multi-core. Its > an intel 3.06 Ghz with 2gb of ram. > > Maybe its some thing related to the use flags... but there are so many > listed as + and - ones... it's just confusing to me. > > Displayed below are first the Use flags that come up and then the tail > of the build attempt. Use the provided url to view the full output if > desired. > > (The massive full build.log and environment report can be viewed at: >www.jtan.com/~reader/mpfailure/mp.cgi) > > (first the use flags that come up) > > [ebuild N] media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p20090731-r1 USE="X a52 > aac alsa ass cddb cdio dirac dts dv dvdnav enca faac faad gif iconv > live mmx mp2 network osdmenu rar real rtc samba schroedinger shm speex > theora tremor truetype unicode x264 xv xvid -3dnow -3dnowext -aalib > (-altivec) -bidi -bindist -bl -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags > -custom-cpuopts -debug -dga -directfb -doc -dvb -dvd -dxr3 -encode > -esd -fbcon -ftp -ggi -gmplayer -ipv6 -jack -joystick -jpeg -ladspa > -libcaca -lirc -lzo -mad -md5sum -mmxext -mng -mp3 -nas -nut -openal > -opencore-amr -opengl -oss -png -pnm -pulseaudio -pvr -quicktime > -radio -sdl -sse -sse2 -ssse3 -svga -teletext -tga -v4l -v4l2 -vdpau > -vidix -vorbis -win32codecs -xanim -xinerama -xscreensaver -xvmc > -zoran" > http://bugs.gentoo.org/213836 Seems to possibly be related to win32codecs and/or quicktime USE flag. Try enabling one or both of them and see if that helps.
[gentoo-user] How to play quicktime (*.mov) videos with firefox
I'm having a heck of a time getting firefox setup so it can handle quicktime videos. I understand I need mplayer to be installed but haven't been able to emerge it. I'm hoping someone will recognize what this problem is... I certainly do not. But I do see others having trouble related to multi-core machines and mplayer... So NOTE: my hardware is not Multi-core. Its an intel 3.06 Ghz with 2gb of ram. Maybe its some thing related to the use flags... but there are so many listed as + and - ones... it's just confusing to me. Displayed below are first the Use flags that come up and then the tail of the build attempt. Use the provided url to view the full output if desired. (The massive full build.log and environment report can be viewed at: www.jtan.com/~reader/mpfailure/mp.cgi) (first the use flags that come up) [ebuild N] media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p20090731-r1 USE="X a52 aac alsa ass cddb cdio dirac dts dv dvdnav enca faac faad gif iconv live mmx mp2 network osdmenu rar real rtc samba schroedinger shm speex theora tremor truetype unicode x264 xv xvid -3dnow -3dnowext -aalib (-altivec) -bidi -bindist -bl -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -custom-cpuopts -debug -dga -directfb -doc -dvb -dvd -dxr3 -encode -esd -fbcon -ftp -ggi -gmplayer -ipv6 -jack -joystick -jpeg -ladspa -libcaca -lirc -lzo -mad -md5sum -mmxext -mng -mp3 -nas -nut -openal -opencore-amr -opengl -oss -png -pnm -pulseaudio -pvr -quicktime -radio -sdl -sse -sse2 -ssse3 -svga -teletext -tga -v4l -v4l2 -vdpau -vidix -vorbis -win32codecs -xanim -xinerama -xscreensaver -xvmc -zoran" == (tail of failure ) == [...] client -lgif -lasound -ldl -lpthread -lcdio_cdda -lcdio -lcdio_paranoia -lfreetype -lz -lfontconfig -lenca -lz -lbz2 -lspeex -ltheora -logg -ldts -lliveMedia -lgroupsock -lUsageEnvironment -lBasicUsageEnvironment -lstdc++ -ldv -ldirac_encoder -ldirac_decoder -lstdc++ -lschroedinger-1.0 -lpthread -loil-0.3 -lm -lrt -lpthread -ldl -rdynamic -lm loader/module.o: In function `MODULE_GetProcAddress': module.c:(.text+0xf8): undefined reference to `report_entry' module.c:(.text+0x102): undefined reference to `report_ret' module.c:(.text+0x10c): undefined reference to `wrapper_target' module.c:(.text+0x111): undefined reference to `wrapper' loader/module.o: In function `LoadLibraryExA': module.c:(.text+0x1000): undefined reference to `report_entry' module.c:(.text+0x100a): undefined reference to `report_ret' module.c:(.text+0x1015): undefined reference to `wrapper_target' module.c:(.text+0x101b): undefined reference to `wrapper' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [mplayer] Error 1 * * ERROR: media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p20090731-r1 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile * environment, line 2623: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * emake || die "Failed to build MPlayer!"; * The die message: * Failed to build MPlayer! [...]
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
Am Freitag, 28. August 2009 schrieb Philip Webb: > if KDE 4.3.1 isn't a distinct improvement on 4.2.1, when I try it in Oct. > Besides Fluxbox, I can recommend Xfce's Thunar & Terminal, > which I now use regularly. I've tested it, but Thunar, just as other Gtk file managers such as Nautilus, not even come close to what Konqueror 3 has to offer. Plus, their use (or rather) waste of screen space is exceptional. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' Beamy, Scot me up! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Mythtv Segmentation fault
I realize this has been a hot topic over the years, but I can't find anything that helps me out and I'm getting to the point where I'm repeating searches. I have a fresh install of gentoo: Linux russell 2.6.30-gentoo-r4 #1 SMP Tue Aug 25 19:34:39 CDT 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux I only want this machine to act as my DVR. I've installed mythtv (and those package and libs it needs) and whenever I run mythtv-setup I get: myt...@russell ~ $ mythtv-setup 2009-08-28 20:22:16.898 Using runtime prefix = /usr 2009-08-28 20:22:16.918 DPMS is active. 2009-08-28 20:22:16.919 Unable to read configuration file mysql.txt 2009-08-28 20:22:16.919 Empty LocalHostName. 2009-08-28 20:22:16.920 Using localhost value of russell 2009-08-28 20:22:16.941 New DB connection, total: 1 2009-08-28 20:22:16.953 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost 2009-08-28 20:22:16.955 Closing DB connection named 'DBManager0' 2009-08-28 20:22:16.963 Primary screen 0. 2009-08-28 20:22:16.965 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost 2009-08-28 20:22:16.968 Using screen 0, 1440x900 at 0,0 2009-08-28 20:22:16.996 New DB connection, total: 2 2009-08-28 20:22:16.997 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost 2009-08-28 20:22:17.001 Current Schema Version: 1214 2009-08-28 20:22:17.267 Primary screen 0. 2009-08-28 20:22:17.270 Using screen 0, 1440x900 at 0,0 2009-08-28 20:22:17.273 No theme dir: /home/mythtv/.mythtv/themes/G.A.N.T 2009-08-28 20:22:17.276 Switching to square mode (G.A.N.T) 2009-08-28 20:22:17.351 Using the Qt painter 2009-08-28 20:22:17.352 JoystickMenuClient Error: Joystick disabled - Failed to read /home/mythtv/.mythtv/joystickmenurc Segmentation fault I'm not sure what info would help you help me. So, let me know what you'd like to see. BTW - I ma not using a joystick, but the segfault always occurs right after that joystick line. I appreciate your time. myt...@russell ~ $ emerge --info Portage 2.1.6.13 (default/linux/x86/2008.0, gcc-4.3.2, glibc-2.9_p20081201-r2, 2.6.30-gentoo-r4 i686) = System uname: Linux-2.6.30-gentoo-r4-i686-AMD_Athlon-tm-_Processor-with-gentoo-1.12.11.1 Timestamp of tree: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:45:01 + app-shells/bash: 3.2_p39 dev-lang/python: 2.5.4-r2, 2.6.2-r1 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1 sys-apps/sandbox:1.6-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.63-r1 sys-devel/automake: 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2 sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.27-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -pipe" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -pipe" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch" GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://www.cyberuse.com/gentoo/ " LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1" MAKEOPTS="-j2" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="acl berkdb bzip2 cli cracklib crypt cups dri fortran gdbm gpm iconv ipv6 isdnlog mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly openmp pam pcre perl pppd python readline reflection session spl ssl sysfs tcpd unicode x86 xorg zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
090828 Mark Knecht wrote: >>> KDE3 may be masked before KDE4 is marked arch stable >> Maybe would be better to witch to gnome? > Instead of Gnome consider something like XFCE. > Very lightweight, builds quickly (say < 10 minutes) little disk space. > It has menus like Gnome and KDE. > I also like fluxbox but it's probably too minimal for a committed KDE user. I was a committed KDE user till April, when I tried the latest Fluxbox & haven't looked back: they've done a lot of work to make it useful. I still use a few KDE 3 apps, but am resigned to finding alternatives, if KDE 4.3.1 isn't a distinct improvement on 4.2.1, when I try it in Oct. Besides Fluxbox, I can recommend Xfce's Thunar & Terminal, which I now use regularly. I expect to keep KDE 3.5.9 in my stand-by machine for a long time, but I don't update either box using 'emerge world', so I won't run into serious blocks & masks. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
Am Freitag, 28. August 2009 schrieb Dirk Heinrichs: > Just courious: What would prevent you from keeping KDE3 forever, if needed? Good question, it just dooms over my head. Gentoo-kde people are planning to move KDE3 to an overlay, so keeping it will be made easy. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' What is this that roareth thus? Can it be a motor bus? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] radeon & xorg-server 1.6.3
James wrote: > (EE) module ABI major version (4) doesn't match the server's version (5) It seems you have an old driver version that doesn't match the server version. Maybe a recompile of your driver is sufficient or you may need an upgrade of the driver (x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati or perhaps x11-drivers/xf86-video-radeonhd?). Broken ABI, as I understand it, means that the linking between the server and the driver doesn't speak the same language... > Do I have to uses radeon as a loadable module? > I've always statically compiled it into the kernel... Maybe I'm missing something here but it's asking for the Xorg radeon driver not the kernel DRM. HTH Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
Am Freitag 28 August 2009 19:42:00 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > > That said, just try it, it's the best KDE you've ever seen :) . > Well, I still do have constant crashes of KDE4 in conjunction with NVidia > drivers. Hmm, I don't. > So for me it is definitely not stable yet. Also, it still misses > some major features, like khotkeys not working properly (shortcuts to > launch apps don't work), there's no way to disable transparency besides > using another theme or disabling effects alltogether. Some ported kde3 apps > are still beta at best, like k3b or kile. That's anoying at best, but says nothing about stability. > It really has some nice new features, but other things just keep me away > and let me wonder what I'll do once I can't hold on KDE3 any longer. :-/ Just courious: What would prevent you from keeping KDE3 forever, if needed? Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
Am Freitag, 28. August 2009 schrieb Dirk Heinrichs: > Am Freitag 28 August 2009 17:41:42 schrieb Massimiliano Ziccardi: > > That's not very nice. I can't update to KDE4 'couse it's not ready stable > > enough, but KDE3 could get maskedIt's seems like I'm living on the > > edge... :-) > > Seems this needs some clarification: KDE 4.3 _is_ stable, otherwise it > wouldn't have been released by KDE devs. It's only the Gentoo ebuilds which > are not considered stable, yet. Although I don't have any idea what holds > them up, it installed and works smoothly on two of my systems. > > That said, just try it, it's the best KDE you've ever seen :) . Well, I still _do_ have constant crashes of KDE4 in conjunction with NVidia drivers. So for me it is definitely not stable yet. Also, it still misses some major features, like khotkeys not working properly (shortcuts to launch apps don't work), there's no way to disable transparency besides using another theme or disabling effects alltogether. Some ported kde3 apps are still beta at best, like k3b or kile. It really has some nice new features, but other things just keep me away and let me wonder what I'll do once I can't hold on KDE3 any longer. :-/ -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' Crayons can take you more places than starships. (Guinan) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote: >>Instead of Gnome consider something like XFCE > > Already tried some time ago but, for some weird reason, it gave me lots of > problems... > Well, if it doesn't fit then don't wear it. I think the newer versions a similar enough to Gnome that I hardly noticed a difference myself. I don't do anything fancy though. I don't have the patience to deal with KDE on Gentoo! Good luck with whatever choice you make. Cheers, Mark
[gentoo-user] radeon & xorg-server 1.6.3
Hello, I have this now: 2.6.30-gentoo-r4 xorg-server-1.6.3 xorg-x11-7.4 radeon driver compiled into kernel not a module per: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/ati-migration-guide.xml and appropriate mods to xorg.conf I'm manually starting X until it is happy. /var/log/Xorg.0.log (II) Loading extension DRI2 (II) LoadModule: "radeon" (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 6.12.1 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1 (EE) module ABI major version (4) doesn't match the server's version (5) (II) UnloadModule: "radeon" (II) Unloading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so (EE) Failed to load module "radeon" (module requirement mismatch, 0) (EE) No drivers available. Do I have to uses radeon as a loadable module? I've always statically compiled it into the kernel... What did I miss?
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
>Instead of Gnome consider something like XFCE Already tried some time ago but, for some weird reason, it gave me lots of problems... >I also like fluxbox but it's probably too minimal for a committed KDE user. That's not a problem: I've used TWM, MWM and WindowMaker for quite long time too :-) It's just that I like KDE :-) I have two PC's at work: the dektop one is with Ubuntu/gnome, while the thinkpad is with gentoo/KDE. Thanks, Massimiliano
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
On Friday 28 August 2009 16:41:42 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote: > Maybe would be better to witch to gnome? Not in a month of Sundays. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote: > Hi Ben. Thank you too! > >>Duncan brought it up out of concern that KDE3 may be masked before KDE4 is >> marked arch stable, >and wanted to the let the AMD64 community know. > > That's not very nice. I can't update to KDE4 'couse it's not ready stable > enough, but KDE3 could get maskedIt's seems like I'm living on the > edge... :-) > > Maybe would be better to witch to gnome? > > Thanks, > Massimiliano > Instead of Gnome consider something like XFCE. Very lightweight, builds quickly (say <10 minutes) little disk space. It runs all the apps I used to run in Gnome fine. Has menus like Gnome and KDE. Just an idea and maybe you'll find you like it and if not it would tide you over until KDE4 is ready. I also like fluxbox but it's probably too minimal for a committed KDE user. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
Am Freitag 28 August 2009 17:41:42 schrieb Massimiliano Ziccardi: > That's not very nice. I can't update to KDE4 'couse it's not ready stable > enough, but KDE3 could get maskedIt's seems like I'm living on the > edge... :-) Seems this needs some clarification: KDE 4.3 _is_ stable, otherwise it wouldn't have been released by KDE devs. It's only the Gentoo ebuilds which are not considered stable, yet. Although I don't have any idea what holds them up, it installed and works smoothly on two of my systems. That said, just try it, it's the best KDE you've ever seen :) . Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
Hi Ben. Thank you too! >Duncan brought it up out of concern that KDE3 may be masked before KDE4 is marked arch stable, >and wanted to the let the AMD64 community know. That's not very nice. I can't update to KDE4 'couse it's not ready stable enough, but KDE3 could get maskedIt's seems like I'm living on the edge... :-) Maybe would be better to witch to gnome? Thanks, Massimiliano >
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
As noted by Duncan on the Gentoo-AMD64 list (see the archives there for the last few days) - KDE3 may be masked at any point now if there are security issues, etc. that arise as KDE is very minimally supporting it and there are apparently very few if anyone in the Gentoo community working on KDE3 now too; it seems the Gentoo/KDE team has moved on to KDE4 as well so KDE3 isn't really being paid attention too, and if something breaks it might get fixed or KDE3 might get masked instead. Duncan brought it up out of concern that KDE3 may be masked before KDE4 is marked arch stable, and wanted to the let the AMD64 community know. If you want details, I suggest: 1) Read the archives in the AMD64 list for the last few days - namely the thread titled "Heads-up: KDEers: Particularly kde3-ers," - pay most attention to the early part of the thread, as it did get a little distracted late yesterday and early today on topics of hardware support (kind of related, by probably mostly off-topic). 2) Check out the Gentoo-Desktop list, there are some related summaries of some meetings that provide some good info as well. 3) Check out the Gentoo-KDE folks, and see what they are up to. All that said, there is a call out for people interested in supporting KDE3 via an overlay. So if you really want to continue using KDE3 in the long term, I would suggest checking into how you can help out. (Who knows, may be if enough people complain to Gentoo/KDE they'll keep someone on it more; but from what I little I am aware that doesn't sound likely.) Just another messenger, Ben - Original Message From: Dale To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:34:30 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote: > Thank you all a lot. > > When I saw that KDE4 was the current supported version, I though I had > to update to KDE4, but emerge wasn't able to update from KDE 3 to KDE > 4 for some reason (I had a similar problem some time ago with the > monolithic package). > > I'll wait for KDE 4 to be stabilized. > > Again, gentoo community is the best! > > Thanks! > > --- > Massimiliano > This is my opinion so don't etch this in stone or anything. I don't think KDE4 is quite ready yet. There are still a few things that are not "there" yet. It has come a LONG way since I tried 4.1 tho. I may wait until KDE 4.4 comes out before I really switch over. I also don't like the kdm screen for KDE4 either. Long story. If you want something stable, by all means wait a bit. You can have both installed at the same time tho. I do right now. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote: > Thank you all a lot. > > When I saw that KDE4 was the current supported version, I though I had > to update to KDE4, but emerge wasn't able to update from KDE 3 to KDE > 4 for some reason (I had a similar problem some time ago with the > monolithic package). > > I'll wait for KDE 4 to be stabilized. > > Again, gentoo community is the best! > > Thanks! > > --- > Massimiliano > This is my opinion so don't etch this in stone or anything. I don't think KDE4 is quite ready yet. There are still a few things that are not "there" yet. It has come a LONG way since I tried 4.1 tho. I may wait until KDE 4.4 comes out before I really switch over. I also don't like the kdm screen for KDE4 either. Long story. If you want something stable, by all means wait a bit. You can have both installed at the same time tho. I do right now. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
Thank you all a lot. When I saw that KDE4 was the current supported version, I though I had to update to KDE4, but emerge wasn't able to update from KDE 3 to KDE 4 for some reason (I had a similar problem some time ago with the monolithic package). I'll wait for KDE 4 to be stabilized. Again, gentoo community is the best! Thanks! --- Massimiliano On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Dale wrote: > Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote: > > Hi all. > > > > Reading > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml#kde_portage > > > > I found the following sentence: > > > > 8x-- > > KDE 4 is the current KDE version supported by upstream. > > 8x-- > > > > However, if I try to install KDE 4.2, it says KDE 4.2 is masked... > > > > Is it right? Do I have to unmask it to install KDE 4.2, even if it is > > the current KDE version supported by upstream? > > > > (I tried to follow the instruction and unmasking using the provided > > file, but I met lot of other masked packages...) > > > > Should I wait for KDE 4 to become unmasked? > > > > Thank you, > > Massimiliano > > Just to add a little more info. When it says that KDE is basically only > supporting KDE4, that just means there is no more "features" being added > to KDE3 and most likely only a few bug or security fixes. They may fix > some major problem but they are mostly concentrating on KDE4. > > If you want to install KDE4, check out autounmask. It is a neat little > tool to deal with all the dependencies that KDE4 needs. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > >
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote: > Hi all. > > Reading > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml#kde_portage > > I found the following sentence: > > 8x-- > KDE 4 is the current KDE version supported by upstream. > 8x-- > > However, if I try to install KDE 4.2, it says KDE 4.2 is masked... > > Is it right? Do I have to unmask it to install KDE 4.2, even if it is > the current KDE version supported by upstream? > > (I tried to follow the instruction and unmasking using the provided > file, but I met lot of other masked packages...) > > Should I wait for KDE 4 to become unmasked? > > Thank you, > Massimiliano Just to add a little more info. When it says that KDE is basically only supporting KDE4, that just means there is no more "features" being added to KDE3 and most likely only a few bug or security fixes. They may fix some major problem but they are mostly concentrating on KDE4. If you want to install KDE4, check out autounmask. It is a neat little tool to deal with all the dependencies that KDE4 needs. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4 installation
On 08/28/2009 03:17 PM, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote: Hi all. Reading http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml#kde_portage I found the following sentence: 8x-- KDE 4 is the current KDE version supported by upstream. 8x-- However, if I try to install KDE 4.2, it says KDE 4.2 is masked... Is it right? Do I have to unmask it to install KDE 4.2, even if it is the current KDE version supported by upstream? (I tried to follow the instruction and unmasking using the provided file, but I met lot of other masked packages...) Should I wait for KDE 4 to become unmasked? It's not "masked", as that refers to hard-masking. When portage says "masked by keyword" it means it's simply keyworded "~arch" instead of "arch". To install it, you don't have to "unmask" it (/etc/portage/package.unmask), you have to keyword it (and that's /etc/portage/package.keywords). Whether you decide to wait for it to be stabilized (put in "arch") is up to you. If you decide not to wait, don't install 4.2.4. Go for 4.3.0 instead since 4.2.4 will be removed from portage at some point and will never be stabilized. Stabilization will happen with 4.3.x.
Re: [gentoo-user] mythtv dependencies
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 07:07 -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > Thanks for the responses! > > I'll submit the bug report for the unzip thing. Although, is a bug > report warranted if the issue only occurred once? I'd rather not try > to replicate the problem by reinstalling mythtv (it takes a fair > amount of time). > It only occurred to you once, but you're not the only person who uses Gentoo ;) > As far as the X server thing goes, the reason I brought it up was > muthtv-setup looked as though it needed it. That is, when I tried to > start mythtv-setup at the console command line, it wouldn't b/c it > claimed to not have access to the X server. It would start in an X > environment. Yeah, this can be simplified to: xclock. xclock needs to connect to an X server, but that X server need not be local. In the same way you don't need to have Apache and Firefox installed on the same machine, so they need not depend on each other. > There is no need to respond to my X comment above (I'll look into it), > but I am curious about the gentoo bug protocol. I didn't see anything > about when one should report a bug on bugs.gentoo.org. The simple answer is: you should report a bug when you discover one. If they mythtv package depends on unzip and it's not pulling it in, then that's a bug. More specific to your situation: any time "emerge " fails and it's not a user problem then it's an ebuild problem and should be fixed.
[gentoo-user] KDE 4 installation
Hi all. Reading http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml#kde_portage I found the following sentence: 8x-- KDE 4 is the current KDE version supported by upstream. 8x-- However, if I try to install KDE 4.2, it says KDE 4.2 is masked... Is it right? Do I have to unmask it to install KDE 4.2, even if it is the current KDE version supported by upstream? (I tried to follow the instruction and unmasking using the provided file, but I met lot of other masked packages...) Should I wait for KDE 4 to become unmasked? Thank you, Massimiliano
Re: [gentoo-user] mythtv dependencies
>> > "X" is too generic of a term but I'll assume you mean "X server"... > > Firstly, you don't need an X server to run MythTV... some people > actually have the backend running headless. Second, you don't need an X > server locally to run X apps (for example I used to XDMCP into a > headless virtual machine running test instances of KDE. "ssh -X xapp" > is another example). > > As for unzip, that sounds like a possible bug. I know I ran into that > problem with another package => bugs.gentoo.org. > > -a Thanks for the responses! I'll submit the bug report for the unzip thing. Although, is a bug report warranted if the issue only occurred once? I'd rather not try to replicate the problem by reinstalling mythtv (it takes a fair amount of time). As far as the X server thing goes, the reason I brought it up was muthtv-setup looked as though it needed it. That is, when I tried to start mythtv-setup at the console command line, it wouldn't b/c it claimed to not have access to the X server. It would start in an X environment. There is no need to respond to my X comment above (I'll look into it), but I am curious about the gentoo bug protocol. I didn't see anything about when one should report a bug on bugs.gentoo.org. Thanks again. > > > > > >
